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trivedivishal
4th August 2009, 07:29 AM
Hello Folks,

It’s been around a month since I’ve joined xda-developers and I have had a chance to get some of the best stuff for my HTC Touch Diamond from here. I think it’s time for me to return the favor and give back something to the community.

SMS Counter
For some time now I have been searching for a *FREE* application that basically can tell me how many SMSes I’ve sent. Thus, if I have a free message sending limit in my plan, I can know if I’ve exceeded it or not. Unfortunately, I could not find any. The only good application that I know currently doing this is the 'Efficasoft smartphone sms counter'. (Though, If there is such application and if I’ve missed it, someone please bring it to my attention)

And thus, I thought of making one! :)

Possible Features
I spent some thinking about it and I figured that I can add a few more features to make this application a bit more, well, feature rich. The next post lists the features that I have currently is my mind. Based on your suggestions/feedback, I will change the list.

Development Platform
I will be making this application in .Net Compact Framework v3.5 / C#. Thus, people wishing to use this app will need the Compact Framework installed on their devices.

Devices
At the moment I’m planning to make this only for the HTC Touch Diamond. Once the app is a success and if it has a good demand, I can plan on porting it to other devices as well.

Pricing
If everything goes as planned and if this application sees the light of the day, it will be available for everyone to download for FREE, ALWAYS!

So my fellow community members, please think about this and give me your valuable feedback. I want to know your suggestions, your ideas. Do we really need this app in the first place? Is there something better already available? If we need it, how can we make it acceptable to a wider range of audience? Do we add more features or do we just put the most basic features? Lot of questions and your answers are welcome. :)

Thank you!

trivedivishal
4th August 2009, 07:31 AM
Below are the possible features that I am currently thinking of implementing:

Determine number of sent and received messages.
Filter options: Within a date range, to/from specific person, etc.
Trends: Whom I’m messaging most and who is messaging me the most.
Cost calculation based on plan but to be override-able for any given month.
Suggestions welcome!

ja-marcin
4th August 2009, 05:18 PM
there is hs++ wich, among many others, have option of counting sent and recived mesages

but i like your idea

to list of features i`d suggest to add
autoresponse (to contacts from adress book when i cannot answer or read message or recive call)

setting message to send at precise time

Techno-Freak
4th August 2009, 07:02 PM
PowerSMS is one such software. But it is not a freeware.
www.trinketsoftware.com

ja-marcin
4th August 2009, 07:55 PM
of course i know PowerSMS
it also has a lot more cool features

but, as you mentioned, it`s not freeware

trivedivishal
6th August 2009, 06:45 AM
of course i know PowerSMS
it also has a lot more cool features

but, as you mentioned, it`s not freeware

And it has it's own limitations too. For e.g. I would prefer a graphical chart when I'm seeing statistics, this is something which I would like to incorporate in my own app.

Yet, it seems the response for this is pretty much zero and people are not very keen to have this application. :(

tomoffel
8th August 2009, 07:46 PM
I like the Idea of the statistics (with chart! :)) sounds funny to know who gets the most sms from me :) (and to see who don't linke me and never or seldom sends me sms back :P)

I think the features are okay for now :) keep it as simple as possible :)

ice2k2
9th August 2009, 02:46 AM
is it going to work in the background ? i mean consume memory and cpu power all time.

i am looking for a call time and sms counter, something simple that i can reset every month (maybe even with an option to reset automatically at a given date each month).

it was built in with my sony erricson T650 and maybe any other phone. but nothing simple at the diamond (havnt seen any sms counter built in).

trivedivishal
9th August 2009, 05:42 PM
I like the Idea of the statistics (with chart! :)) sounds funny to know who gets the most sms from me :) (and to see who don't linke me and never or seldom sends me sms back :P)

I think the features are okay for now :) keep it as simple as possible :)

Thank you for your feedback tomoffel, I'll keep your suggestions in mind.

is it going to work in the background ? i mean consume memory and cpu power all time.

i am looking for a call time and sms counter, something simple that i can reset every month (maybe even with an option to reset automatically at a given date each month).

it was built in with my sony erricson T650 and maybe any other phone. but nothing simple at the diamond (havnt seen any sms counter built in).

No, it's not going to work in the background, the user will have the option to manually update stats after he starts the program or they will be calculated automatically when the program starts; whichever the user prefers.

Yes, I can add the option of resetting the stats manually or on a date specified by user, nice suggestions ice2k2, thanks.

tomoffel
9th August 2009, 11:40 PM
Thank you for your feedback tomoffel, I'll keep your suggestions in mind.


Thank you too :)


No, it's not going to work in the background, the user will have the option to manually update stats after he starts the program or they will be calculated automatically when the program starts; whichever the user prefers.

Yes, I can add the option of resetting the stats manually or on a date specified by user, nice suggestions ice2k2, thanks.


That sounds good, just calculate when the user is ready to use, not always in the background :D more free Ram on our Diamonds! :D The reset on a specified date is also a really nice idea, yes! :D

Whats about a "constant" statistic, that shows the statistic from begining, and we can seperate in to monthly? So we can see in wich month we texted the most? :) And we could use the overall stats to calculate an wich (week)day we send the most sms :D

trivedivishal
10th August 2009, 12:55 PM
Whats about a "constant" statistic, that shows the statistic from begining, and we can seperate in to monthly? So we can see in wich month we texted the most? :) And we could use the overall stats to calculate an wich (week)day we send the most sms :D

You mean maitaining the statistics cumulatively? I don't see how that's possible with the 'reset' option. When a users resets the data, all previous stats are lost and that's its exact purpose. Though, feell free to correct me if i'm wrong and explain what you want in detail, possibly with an example. Thanks,

tomoffel
10th August 2009, 01:10 PM
You mean maitaining the statistics cumulatively? I don't see how that's possible with the 'reset' option. When a users resets the data, all previous stats are lost and that's its exact purpose. Though, feell free to correct me if i'm wrong and explain what you want in detail, possibly with an example. Thanks,

Like in the car. you have a constant counter of your km/miles, and a "small" one for the time you go to refuel.

so lets say, I want to know how many sms I send since I load my prepaid card :) (but also a constant statistic :) )

small counter/reset function = time since reload the prepaid-card / refuel the car
background (full)statistic = overalltime statistic with monts/(week)day stats / km/miles since you bought the car :)

hope thats make my sugesstion clear :)

trivedivishal
10th August 2009, 05:23 PM
Like in the car. you have a constant counter of your km/miles, and a "small" one for the time you go to refuel.

so lets say, I want to know how many sms I send since I load my prepaid card :) (but also a constant statistic :) )

small counter/reset function = time since reload the prepaid-card / refuel the car
background (full)statistic = overalltime statistic with monts/(week)day stats / km/miles since you bought the car :)

hope thats make my sugesstion clear :)

Thanks for the analogy tomoffel, it's much clear now. :)

Yes, this feature will be available, though I'll have to work out the exact mechanics of it. Thanks for the suggestion!

tomoffel
10th August 2009, 07:21 PM
sounds good :)

If I can help you, let me know, I have a hermes(qvga) wit 6.1(crc) running on it, with around 6000 sms (atm not active) and a Diamond(VGA) with 6.1(Gen.Y) and around 600 sms.

Thank you! :)

ice2k2
11th August 2009, 01:50 AM
Thanks for the analogy tomoffel, it's much clear now. :)

Yes, this feature will be available, though I'll have to work out the exact mechanics of it. Thanks for the suggestion!

I think its simple, just use two counters: one is "resetable" the other is not.
i guess it means double the data and double the reading/writing cycles but im sure there is a way to optimise it with simple procedure.

trivedivishal
11th August 2009, 05:54 AM
sounds good :)

If I can help you, let me know, I have a hermes(qvga) wit 6.1(crc) running on it, with around 6000 sms (atm not active) and a Diamond(VGA) with 6.1(Gen.Y) and around 600 sms.

Thank you! :)

Great, thanks tomoffel. I'll plan to start development on it by the first week of September and have a beta ready by the end of second week. I'll keep you posted. :)

trivedivishal
11th August 2009, 05:55 AM
I think its simple, just use two counters: one is "resetable" the other is not.
i guess it means double the data and double the reading/writing cycles but im sure there is a way to optimise it with simple procedure.

Yes, I've got the idea. I'll have to find out a way to optimize it, which I will. :)

Thanks ice2k2!

W!m_
11th August 2009, 11:43 AM
Sounds good , really looking forward to this app :)

irashi
31st August 2009, 04:06 PM
hi, any updates on the progress?

4D3
31st August 2009, 08:47 PM
there is hs++ wich, among many others, have option of counting sent and recived mesages


I love the ideas in this thread, but what is hs++? do you have a link?

thanks in advance

MG

tomoffel
31st August 2009, 09:02 PM
I love the ideas in this thread, but what is hs++? do you have a link?

thanks in advance

MG

http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_batterystatus_xda_neo_wm5_im_cs.htm#Download

:)

trivedivishal
1st September 2009, 10:20 AM
hi, any updates on the progress?

I'll start working on this app soon, will keep this post updated.

Thank you everyone for your interest in this.

ja-marcin
4th September 2009, 12:18 AM
I love the ideas in this thread, but what is hs++? do you have a link?

thanks in advance

MG

dude
where have you been hiding that you haven`t heard about hs++:eek::eek:

@trivedivishal if you need some testing i`m here
i`m using htc diamond

4D3
4th September 2009, 08:43 AM
dude
where have you been hiding that you haven`t heard about hs++:eek::eek:

the land of the living!! who uses MS Today screen anymore!!

@trivedivishal if you need some testing i`m here
i`m using htc diamond

Everyone here has a Diamond, Hence why this is the "Diamond Forum" on Xda Dev's!!

MG

ja-marcin
4th September 2009, 10:26 AM
the land of the living!! who uses MS Today screen anymore!!


Everyone here has a Diamond, Hence why this is the "Diamond Forum" on Xda Dev's!!

MG

hmm, true
evidently i was falling asleep and stoped thinkig

4D3
4th September 2009, 11:47 AM
hmm, true
evidently i was falling asleep and stoped thinkig

rofl!!

Mg ;)

tomoffel
12th September 2009, 11:35 PM
Hey trivedivishal,

maybe you can add a feature for the sms cost?

So you can say this months I spend 37,45 euro for sms, and all over its 4594,11 euro?

something like this? :) that would be cool :)

let me know if you need any help with testing and stuff :) maybe I can also help you with the graphics if you like :)

ja-marcin
13th September 2009, 02:43 AM
that`s a great idea!

4D3
13th September 2009, 02:04 PM
SMS Counter
For some time now I have been searching for a *FREE* application that basically can tell me how many SMSes I’ve sent. Thus, if I have a free message sending limit in my plan, I can know if I’ve exceeded it or not. Unfortunately, I could not find any. The only good application that I know currently doing this is the 'Efficasoft smartphone sms counter'. (Though, If there is such application and if I’ve missed it, someone please bring it to my attention)

And thus, I thought of making one! :)



Hi,

Please dont think im being rude, but it this thread another pointless/fruitless thread for a software that is never going to materialize?


This was posted over a month ago and the thread OP hasnt posted an ALPHA version yet!

You should not post threads named [CONCEPT] there has been alot of threads like this in the last couple of months and alot of bad feeling has been generated by the thread OP's who are guilty of doing this.

I have MILLIONS of concept ideas, but i dont start threads for each of them in the vague chance i may or may not decide to ever write the app!

As i said the thread was started on 4th August, and the OP posted this on 1st september:

I'll start working on this app soon, will keep this post updated.

Thank you everyone for your interest in this.

Evidently this is never going to happen, if so please close the thread!!

OR UPDATE IT!

No hard feelings, just my opinion based on events that have occurred recently, nothing personal!

MG

4D3
26th November 2009, 11:31 AM
Hi,

I assume that this has totally died?

If so please lock the thread or remove it!

MG

trivedivishal
13th December 2009, 07:30 AM
You're right, I won't be working on it anytime soon. Sorry for raising everyone's hopes so high.

Please consider this thread closed.

Thanks,

4D3
13th December 2009, 01:13 PM
You're right, I won't be working on it anytime soon. Sorry for raising everyone's hopes so high.

Please consider this thread closed.

Thanks,

Typical!!

People who post raising hopes and do ABSOLUTELY nothing to DEV the ideas should get a straight BAN!!!!

:mad::mad::mad:

RR33
13th December 2009, 01:43 PM
hi,

I know LCMinutes v1.55 (August 03, 2009) (freeware) which can do the job : HERE (http://lctools.blogspot.com/2007/12/what-lcminutes-is-about.html)
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_1McrNMbH304/R27ZLV81bzI/AAAAAAAAADc/Sk3hUt01K3g/S240/Screen003.png
It works on diamond :)

4D3
13th December 2009, 01:51 PM
hi,

I know LCMinutes v1.55 (August 03, 2009) (freeware) which can do the job : HERE (http://lctools.blogspot.com/2007/12/what-lcminutes-is-about.html)
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_1McrNMbH304/R27ZLV81bzI/AAAAAAAAADc/Sk3hUt01K3g/S240/Screen003.png
It works on diamond :)

Nice work Dude!! thanks alot!!

MG

RR33
13th December 2009, 02:07 PM
you're welcome MG ;)