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[try]

Any other example than advanced config to test the netcf enhacements please i dont have issues with mine.

Tested personaly: LumosRC2, CAnalog Clock, Windows Live Search, TaskFacade
Mentioned by other: cleanRAM

Sorry, I cannot confirm other example beside the above mentioned, since I already replace the GAC.

[joojoobee666]

Any other example than advanced config to test the netcf enhacements please i dont have issues with mine.

Yeah, Bing (the old Live search) didn't work either. That's the first app I had it with.

[torankusu]

Hi Guys,

What are we using for a replacment for the HTC task manager on this newer builds (2302x brach)??

because i've been using the built in task manager to close programs but it is a little bit tedious.

[+ Que PPC]

Clean ram... yes
Livesearch (old)... yes
taskfakade... no
bing... no

Torankusu... now I use e-Natives Showcase dont enable the X button but set a button to launch the taskmanager... works fine the e-natives developer says he needs a stable 6.5.Xto remod his app with this new taskbar... irecomend him a touch gesture...

[indagroove]

Clean ram... yes
Livesearch (old)... yes
taskfakade... no
bing... no

Torankusu... now I use e-Natives Showcase dont enable the X button but set a button to launch the taskmanager... works fine the e-natives developer says he needs a stable 6.5.Xto remod his app with this new taskbar... irecomend him a touch gesture...

I had this problem several builds back, and discovered that my .net package had somehow gotten corrupted. Replacing the .net package solved my issue.

[try]

@Indragroove
I use the same package that worked for other build, in the same kitchen. Even with 23022 it still work, but not with 23024/25. Replacing the GAC_ worked.

@QuePPC
TaskFacade work for me also, don't know about bing (not using it)

Cheers

[bga7x]

I havent seen this Posted anywhere I might be the only one with this Issue. I have 23025 Right where I want it except for one thing, I have an issue where I cant install any .cabs whats so ever what am I missing or is there a Work Around???

[ace10134]

I havent seen this Posted anywhere I might be the only one with this Issue. I have 23025 Right where I want it except for one thing, I have an issue where I cant install any .cabs whats so ever what am I missing or is there a Work Around???

That's your kitchen's fault. Something's missing or incorrect in your kitchen's files. Idk what it is though, sorry. Someone else should know which folder controls that...

[bga7x]

That's your kitchen's fault. Something's missing or incorrect in your kitchen's files. Idk what it is though, sorry. Someone else should know which folder controls that...


Thank you! I thought it was something like that im trying to Port this for the Omnia hasnt been very lately with these 2302X builds

[williyung]

Hi Da_G

I found in the boot.rgu that you provided with WM6.5 Native Kernel for Kovsky, you added this reg key at the bottom:
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\StorageManager\FATFS\Fil ters\CacheFilt]
seem you want to remove the CacheFilt.
Would you please give the explanation for this? Is it because of the NK WM6.5 related so we must remove the cachefilt?
How if we still using the CacheFilt?

Thanks in advance

[DarkAngelFR]

hummm.... still too meny issue in 23025 :\
tired for fixing things.....
wait for better one :p
Hello,
I got bing error also with this 23025...
When I look at changes from release to release I see that microsoft fix some issue themself (ugly taskbar in startmenu now ok, top align of icons also, Ok button missing in alarm screen now ok, and so on...) so I prefer waiting for new release instead of spending too many hours fixing those issue myself ;)
I'm just new to cooking so I spend my time organizing folders, choosing packages, preparing custom config (autolock, small tweaks, some default frenchy settings, other...). This way when a release will be more stable/complete I'll be happy to share my ROM :p

Ps: from what I've seen they removed (or forgot?) some component in the 23025 (24 also maybe) like windowsmobile.status and pocketoutlook (maybe others not seen yet)
PsBis : I have wired thing in the alarm screen, I cannot use Ring sounds for alarms....really strange, am I alone ?

[rgb-rgb]

@rgb-rgb:

The relevant shortcut has been changed from alarms.lnk to mslarms.lnk, might that be the cause?

That might do it. Thanks Da_G. Will check it out in just a bit.

[daguerrotipo]

Hi
in the time tasbar the time is up to the selection arrow, How can I change or delete the time?
The task Bar of down screen where are the two buttons, hw i can give transparency?
Thanks

[kancrutt]

sorry OOT
anybody know where is Download list for SYS/XIP WM6.1?

[player911]

Yea, we need to figure out the volume issue on the touch pro! I will start searching and see what I find! :)

I'd love to figure this out because I find the VOLUME buttons useless. I personally keep my phone on Vibrate always. So why waste 2 perfectly good buttons? On my dell Axim x51v... I had my up/down volume buttons launch wireless manager and... and something else. But it was great.

I personally hate volume buttons and is the SOLE reason I use HTC Volume manager because the difference is the stock will CHANGE the volume on a single press vs the HTC Volume Manager will launch on a single press but not change anything until a second press. Using the stock volume controller, I'd find my phone either on VERY low volume or silent (both useless).

So with the buttons reassigned like they are being reported... I'd like that. I'm thinking that if we can find what is the cause, that maybe we can figure out a way to completely remap the volume keys like we have with the rest of the buttons.

[Mr. Makk]

Hello,
I got bing error also with this 23025...
When I look at changes from release to release I see that microsoft fix some issue themself (ugly taskbar in startmenu now ok, top align of icons also, Ok button missing in alarm screen now ok, and so on...) so I prefer waiting for new release instead of spending too many hours fixing those issue myself ;)
I'm just new to cooking so I spend my time organizing folders, choosing packages, preparing custom config (autolock, small tweaks, some default frenchy settings, other...). This way when a release will be more stable/complete I'll be happy to share my ROM :p

Ps: from what I've seen they removed (or forgot?) some component in the 23025 (24 also maybe) like windowsmobile.status and pocketoutlook (maybe others not seen yet)
PsBis : I have wired thing in the alarm screen, I cannot use Ring sounds for alarms....really strange, am I alone ?

they might have deleted some but mostly hav relocated alot of files here and there. earlier help.lnk was in shell folder and now its in welcome folder.

[TAEL]

How can remove the "Redirect" for restore hidden settings items? (while cooking, NOT after it)

[X1iser]

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Owner]
"Redirect"=-

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Buttons]
"Redirect"=-

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\Input]
"Redirect"=-



:)

[Cal-El]

How can remove the "Redirect" for restore hidden settings items? (while cooking, NOT after it) Yea I cant find that either, would be nice to know! I know how to turn the magnifier off! :)

[smaury]

Or you can simply go in SYS\Shell and open the rgu file who is there, search for owner, buttons and imput and erease the Redirect value!

[Farmer Ted]

I'm still using 23016 (and 23009 before that), but I never had that problem with settings, and I know others did with that build. I clean up and cook in the entire hklm/security/shell/startinfo reg key, though.

[joojoobee666]

Or you can simply go in SYS\Shell and open the rgu file who is there, search for owner, buttons and imput and erease the Redirect value!

I'm not sure that will be enough since the Redirects are also in the default.hv in the metabase as well. Can anyone confirm that the RGU edit is all you need? I have edited both, just in case.

[sallal]

@every1: i just dunno what to download exactly for my LGKS20 (with 320x240) exept the file for german language....
the download in the first post is "... DPI 192 RESH 480 RESV 640"
but the one i need is not 640x480 ... i need 320x240 ...

so ... where should i download it (what post and what link ... would be useful)

and : how can i change language to german if i have now the file for german language ?

sorry for being so annoying ... my english isnt very good (although i have english as main subject in school :D) and what i wanted to ask wasnt clear in my last post....

Sallal

[merten3000]

I'm not sure that will be enough since the Redirects are also in the default.hv in the metabase as well. Can anyone confirm that the RGU edit is all you need? I have edited both, just in case.


Or use the provxml aproach to delete those values. This way you don't have to do this procedure each time a new build comes along. Just put the code below in a txt file. Rename to .provxml and put it in your Kitchen.
Provxml files are processed AFTER the reg/rgu's so it will delete the values for sure....


<wap-provisioningdoc>
<characteristic type="Registry">

<characteristic type="HKLM\ControlPanel\Owner">
<noparm name="Redirect" />
</characteristic>

<characteristic type="HKLM\ControlPanel\Buttons">
<noparm name="Redirect" />
</characteristic>

<characteristic type="HKLM\ControlPanel\Input">
<noparm name="Redirect" />
</characteristic>

</characteristic>
</wap-provisioningdoc>

[smaury]

@every1: i just dunno what to download exactly for my LGKS20 (with 320x240) exept the file for german language....
the download in the first post is "... DPI 192 RESH 480 RESV 640"
but the one i need is not 640x480 ... i need 320x240 ...

so ... where should i download it (what post and what link ... would be useful)

and : how can i change language to german if i have now the file for german language ?

sorry for being so annoying ... my english isnt very good (although i have english as main subject in school :D) and what i wanted to ask wasnt clear in my last post....

Sallal

-download the build 23025
-download english MUIs 0409
-download deutsch MUIs 0407

Take SYS files from the first download, DPIs from the second and lang from the third!

I'm not sure that will be enough since the Redirects are also in the default.hv in the metabase as well. Can anyone confirm that the RGU edit is all you need? I have edited both, just in case.

I use this tip alltime and it works!!!

[jmckeejr]

Ps: from what I've seen they removed (or forgot?) some component in the 23025 (24 also maybe) like windowsmobile.status and pocketoutlook (maybe others not seen yet)
PsBis : I have wired thing in the alarm screen, I cannot use Ring sounds for alarms....really strange, am I alone ?
I noticed this too. I moght try to look again today and add the missong components since some of my programs will not work as is :( I thought htey had updated poutlook and that was the reason they werent working. Sounds more logical that something was missing. I have been asking developers to please update their software because I thought they had called a certain version of PocketOutlook(now I feel silly :o )
I'd love to figure this out because I find the VOLUME buttons useless. I personally keep my phone on Vibrate always. So why waste 2 perfectly good buttons? On my dell Axim x51v... I had my up/down volume buttons launch wireless manager and... and something else. But it was great.
So with the buttons reassigned like they are being reported... I'd like that. I'm thinking that if we can find what is the cause, that maybe we can figure out a way to completely remap the volume keys like we have with the rest of the buttons.
It would be great to figure out what is gping on with Volume buttons. I am surprised that Da_G said he did not have same issue. Can you give us some more info that may help in troubleshooting our builds? Are you using HTC Volume Control? The modded keypad.dll? Any specific reg tweaks that may not have been in your older kitchens? TIA
I'm not sure that will be enough since the Redirects are also in the default.hv in the metabase as well. Can anyone confirm that the RGU edit is all you need? I have edited both, just in case.
Editing only the rgu in Shell works fine. I am goint to try out this provxml thing I quoted below, seems could save me some time manually deleting those values from rgu. Tried mortscrpit, but for some reason wouldnt work for me :(
Or use the provxml aproach to delete those values. This way you don't have to do this procedure each time a new build comes along. Just put the code below in a txt file. Rename to .provxml and put it in your Kitchen.
Provxml files are processed AFTER the reg/rgu's so it will delete the values for sure....



Thanks a TON!! I'll give this a try and include in all builds just in case. Is this straight from your provxml? So a copy paste should suffice?

Does anyone know how to disable the taskbar helper when pressing time on taskbar? This may help in troubl;e shooting Volume button as my Volume button seems to open the helper every time. Would be a good reg key to include in first page if we can find it :)

[ai6908]

Does anyone know how to disable the taskbar helper when pressing time on taskbar? This may help in troubl;e shooting Volume button as my Volume button seems to open the helper every time. Would be a good reg key to include in first page if we can find it :)

Have you tired this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4268138&postcount=3)?

EDIT: Never mind! That's a fix for double tap!:D

[joojoobee666]

Or use the provxml aproach to delete those values. This way you don't have to do this procedure each time a new build comes along. Just put the code below in a txt file. Rename to .provxml and put it in your Kitchen.
Provxml files are processed AFTER the reg/rgu's so it will delete the values for sure....

Funny you should mention that, I was just thinking of doing the same thing for myself, but now you've done it already. Thanks :D

[wmserver]

Or use the provxml aproach to delete those values. This way you don't have to do this procedure each time a new build comes along. Just put the code below in a txt file. Rename to .provxml and put it in your Kitchen.
Provxml files are processed AFTER the reg/rgu's so it will delete the values for sure....


merten3000,
Where in the kitchen do you put this provxml file?
EXT/Shared/Mod or EXT/Raphael/Common/...?
Thanks.

[joojoobee666]

merten3000,
Where in the kitchen do you put this provxml file?
EXT/Shared/Mod or EXT/Raphael/Common/...?
Thanks.

You can put it in either, just as long as it ends up in the \windows folder during the build.

[+ Que PPC]

All my provxml are in the OEM caus ethe OEM packages are the last included Pkgs in the build process mmm i think there on medkidcol, lets try this provxml thanks man! ;) maybe i will include the magnifier too in the same provxml altho it doesnt work properly in Hermes... :o

Da_g I think this dpi info must be 96 not 92... info in post #4

Possible values for the %VARIABLES% above:

%DEVICENAME%: Name of your device (Hermes, Raphael, Diamond, etc.)

%LOCALE_ID%: The 4 digit number matching your locale (list of supported id's found in first post) - a full list can be found here. It is possible to port WM to a language that is not supported, you would have to use a PE Resource editing program to translate all the various strings found in the .mui (Multilingual User Interface) files. Note that these change periodically as the builds get updated so you would also need to update your altered .mui's.

%BUILDNUMBER%: The build version in use (23022 for example)

%DPI%: DPI of the device (92, 128, 192)

[mike1986.]

what does it mean that "needs common DPI files from 0409 archive"?

[dcd1182]

a way to completely remap the volume keys like we have with the rest of the buttons.
tarkim has created a tool that will do this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=521786

I'm not sure that will be enough since the Redirects are also in the default.hv in the metabase as well. Can anyone confirm that the RGU edit is all you need? I have edited both, just in case.
prb creates default.hv from your rgu files. the default.hv in your SYS source is overwritten.

Or use the provxml aproach to delete those values.
this would work, but is unnecessary. i prefer rgu wherever possible, having less provxml to parse speeds up first boot.

i would also consider removing stuff from the shell rgu to be bad practice. you dont want to have to redo that every time you port a SYS. if you create an EXT package that removes the keys, you're done, and don't have to worry about it in the future.

[torankusu]

Hi Guys,


uuhhmmm... did you know that ms alarms are not working!?
how do you know that Toran?
Well because I WAS 2 HOURS LATE TO WORK TODAY BECAUSE OF THE FREAKING ALARM NOT GOING OFF.

LOL..... seriously any fix for this or should i just buy an alarm clock :p

[m.carroll]

hah! that's happened to me too, multiple times. i learned my lesson shortly thereafter and decided not to rely on the WM alarm clock. look for klaxxon or a similar app, they work well


@dcd1182 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=480805): +1 on portable ext's for the rgu. i've got a couple that i just drop into every kitchen pretty much no matter what.

[Röchelhilpert]

Anybody knows where to find SYS 21840.5.0.60 and 0407 for this ?

[torankusu]

hah! that's happened to me too, multiple times. i learned my lesson shortly thereafter and decided not to rely on the WM alarm clock. look for klaxxon or a similar app, they work well


@dcd1182 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=480805): +1 on portable ext's for the rgu. i've got a couple that i just drop into every kitchen pretty much no matter what.

Thanks m.carroll,

which one do you use and you would recommend?

[+ Que PPC]

I dont have the keys for incall recording... why?

BTW does anybody has the Beam icon i many files into dpi_XXX for some other files?

How to add other reg changes to provxml format?

[+ Que PPC]

Hi Guys,


uuhhmmm... did you know that ms alarms are not working!?
how do you know that Toran?
Well because I WAS 2 HOURS LATE TO WORK TODAY BECAUSE OF THE FREAKING ALARM NOT GOING OFF.

LOL..... seriously any fix for this or should i just buy an alarm clock :p

Even if my device works as alarm, im always late on my job cause i go to bed so late! :p i need to buy an alarm clock besides my bed! :p

[torankusu]

Even if my device works as alarm, im always late on my job cause i go to bed so late! :p i need to buy an alarm clock besides my bed! :p

Lol, same here i went to sleep super late yesterday messing around with build 23025 but hey it is more stable than previous ones.

[dcd1182]

Hi Guys,


uuhhmmm... did you know that ms alarms are not working!?
how do you know that Toran?
Well because I WAS 2 HOURS LATE TO WORK TODAY BECAUSE OF THE FREAKING ALARM NOT GOING OFF.

LOL..... seriously any fix for this or should i just buy an alarm clock :p

23025 alarm got me up for work this morning. Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4204700&postcount=7808

[Da_G]

Aside from the fix dcd mentioned, pay close attention to your SLOT 0 VM layout. (i.e. keep it as close to empty as possible)

I have seen problems with various notifications firing triggered by a low amount of space in SLOT 0 before.

I'll try and get a WM 6.1 thread going today, not to get too off topic but it appears the last modification made to WM 6.1 21054 was on 7/15/2009, given that's just shy of a month ago, i'd say that firmly places 6.1 EOL (end of life) - although there may be a maintenance release or 2 for nasty bugs in the future :)

[BesFen]

great Da_G! cant wait to try 21054 :)
thanks a lot!
regards

+1, I am back to WM 6.1 on my GENE, I thing GENE is not suitable with WM 6.5 since it's only have 64 Mb RAM. I plant to FLASH my diamond, need to read more how to hard SPL first but it 00:20AM here, maybe tomorrow.

C U

[TAEL]

BTW does anybody has the Beam icon i many files into dpi_XXX for some other files?

Yeah, I have them too. They're used in contacts .

[Nixeus]

Hello my friend,

Thanks a lot for this 23025 :)
I just want to know if there is a possibility to disable "the new interface for finger", because in my ELF ( DPI96) it's not beautiful. So i would like to get the standard UI.

How doing it ?

Thanks a lot :)

regards,

Nixeus

[Da_G]

WM 6.1 thread starting over here:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547314

It will remain locked for a bit until I get some things uploaded :)

@+ Que PPC:

I think those beam icons are placeholders, for some new features coming in COM4 :)

[sallal]

-download the build 23025
-download english MUIs 0409
-download deutsch MUIs 0407


and then ? what should i do next ? cuz with LGMPD nothing works... its like there stood "this and that is not available without a partition table"

Thanks in advance

Sallal

[dcd1182]

Aside from the fix dcd mentioned, pay close attention to your SLOT 0 VM layout. (i.e. keep it as close to empty as possible)

the fix i posted only affected CDMA devices to my knowledge, and im pretty sure the CDMA chefs are aware of it now - you should probably look into Da_G's suggestion long before mine.

[b16b]

hi
have anyone any size problem of many things? like new task bar
arrows, big list....

i have kaiser.. dpi 96 resolution 240x320

have anyone else this problems?

[Nixeus]

Hi,

I have the same resolution of you ( DPI96 and 320 x 240), and its not beatiful...berk !

I think that this new UI is not for the 96DPI phone...i would like to tweak my 23025 in order to having the standard UI.. Any idea?

[DarkAngelFR]

what does it mean that "needs common DPI files from 0409 archive"?
have you read post 1, line 9 and 15 ?
...
Language Localization Packages - build 23022 (dpi ALL resh ALL resv ALL) - needs common DPI files from 0409 archive
...
0409 USA English United States (http://rapidshare.com/files/266083019/WM65-23025-LANG-0409-DPI-ALL-RESH-ALL-RESV-ALL-AND-COMMON.rar) (Includes COMMON DPI, required for others) (updated 23025)
...
not sure but my translation is : download those 409 files + your localized files (+SYS of course) and mix all those together in your kitchen...
PEBKAC ?

[DarkAngelFR]

23025 alarm got me up for work this morning. Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4204700&postcount=7808

looks interesting registry keys...you know default values if we remove them ? MuteSoundOnClose seems to be off (if it does what I guess) and AlarmInterrupt I don't even know what it should do (enable disabling alarm ?)... any idea if we can change the delay between repeats ?

[+ Que PPC]

a pic please :rolleyes: i had qvga too

[torankusu]

23025 alarm got me up for work this morning. Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4204700&postcount=7808

Hi DCD and Thanks but i don't have any of those keys under my touch diamond(cdma) registry. weird.......... :) i think i might have something else going on, how do i check my SLOT 0???

[b16b]

Hi,

I have the same resolution of you ( DPI96 and 320 x 240), and its not beatiful...berk !

I think that this new UI is not for the 96DPI phone...i would like to tweak my 23025 in order to having the standard UI.. Any idea?

also CHome is slow.. i think because have something from deferent resolution...

also i think is not complete converted on dpi 96 320x240 this make the problem..

[dcd1182]

Hi DCD and Thanks but i don't have any of those keys under my touch diamond(cdma) registry. weird.......... :) i think i might have something else going on, how do i check my SLOT 0???

first you should read post #2 of this thread. then read it again a few more times :) (thats what i did - best post on xda)
prb will show you slot allocations at the end of building.

[Nixeus]

also CHome is slow.. i think because have something from deferent resolution...

also i think is not complete converted on dpi 96 320x240 this make the problem..

Exactly the same problems :( Maybe we need try to use the 23016 DPI files ?

[joojoobee666]

Hey Da_G, I know that keeping slot 0 free is a good thing, I can go and recmod damned near everything so that slot 0 is free on build (according to kitchen log), the only problem is that obviously some of that is going to be assigned dynamically on boot up. I'm wondering if there is an application that we can run that will show us slot 0 usage and what modules/files are assigned to the 64kb blocks.

I'm on 6.1 kernel, so that means I should be trying to squeeze everything into one 32mb slot (slot1) which is going to be damned near impossible. I'm sure there are quite a few system dll's that are rarely used, but using vm space anyhow due to the fact that almost everything is a module from MS on these releases. I want to see if I can get a better idea of what dll's are used more often and which one's aren't so I can fine tune my VM Slot assignment.

A.K.A., do we have any tools to profile our VM Slot usage/assignment once booted?

[x1owner]

Wich files in 23025 do i need to replace (with 23017 ones) to get the popupscreens back to original size??

I like the new build but...... too large popups.. :-(

Does anyone know how to change the softkey-bar back to 52 pixels (70 pixel in >23022)????

[torankusu]

first you should read post #2 of this thread. then read it again a few more times :) (thats what i did - best post on xda)
prb will show you slot allocations at the end of building.

yes you are right, best post i've ever read regarding Kernel on WM devices but again i don't know how to check for this....:p but something tells me that has to be when building a rom on my kitchen, there should be a map txt file that tells me everything or where files and modules are allocated in memory addresses, right? something more on the side of what joojoobee666 mentioned above.

[DarkAngelFR]

yes you are right, best post i've ever read regarding Kernel on WM devices but again i don't know how to check for this....:p but something tells me that has to be when building a rom on my kitchen, there should be a map txt file that tells me everything or where files and modules are allocated in memory addresses, right? something more on the side of what joojoobee666 mentioned above.

on top of the thread you have a "Search this thread" button...I just put "memory map" inside of this and got this :
5th post in result (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4305705&highlight=memory+map#post4305705) (""but where do you guys get the memory map ?"")
hope this helps...

[Farmer Ted]

yes you are right, best post i've ever read regarding Kernel on WM devices but again i don't know how to check for this....:p but something tells me that has to be when building a rom on my kitchen, there should be a map txt file that tells me everything or where files and modules are allocated in memory addresses, right? something more on the side of what joojoobee666 mentioned above.

If you get a build-log.txt file, it's in there. It also goes by really quickly on the command screen. You can pause the screen with the scroll bar and maybe write it down (good luck with that, I've tried). If you don't get a build log, this is what 2pumpchump said you can do:

you have to add this to your bat, where it calls platformrebuilder


TOOLS\platformrebuilder.exe> build-log.txt

I haven't figured that one out yet, lol. Maybe one of these days.

[joojoobee666]

If you get a build-log.txt file, it's in there. It also goes by really quickly on the command screen. You can pause the screen with the scroll bar and maybe write it down (good luck with that, I've tried). If you don't get a build log, this is what 2pumpchump said you can do:



I haven't figured that one out yet, lol. Maybe one of these days.

Visual Kitchen 1.8.1 automatically creates the log, just update to that version. Then you can see your slot assignments.

My question to Da_G was based on this. It's a piece of cake to get Slot 0 to nothing (minus the XIP of course) during build, but none of that will matter once dll's and exe's are dynamically assigned anyhow.

[Nixeus]

I have replace in the *DPI* folder by the *DPI* folders issue from the 23016 and the UI is the same :(

I think that there is other files and settings in NON-*DPI* folders, like thaht OS, SHELL....

Go back 23016/23017 for me :(

[+ Que PPC]

also CHome is slow.. i think because have something from deferent resolution...

also i think is not complete converted on dpi 96 320x240 this make the problem..

I remmeber big attempst in this builds with 21925... we need to change gwes from 21921... maybe we can do something similar...

BTW the bat file can be edited just like that! right click over it and say edit.... thats all then save changes and you are good to go!

Multiplugin by twolf dont works in the titanium...

[twopumpchump]

If you get a build-log.txt file, it's in there. It also goes by really quickly on the command screen. You can pause the screen with the scroll bar and maybe write it down (good luck with that, I've tried). If you don't get a build log, this is what 2pumpchump said you can do:

I haven't figured that one out yet, lol. Maybe one of these days.

if you use visual kitchen, you can just update your version it has build_log.txt built in it. if you dont use visual kitchen, or if you want to fix your older visual kitchen so it will make a build_log.txt when you cook you can do this.

in visual kitchen, open tools folder and then kitchen_build_rom.bat with notepad. search for this line....

TOOLS\platformrebuilder.exe
if not "%errorlevel%"=="0" goto error

change it to this.....


TOOLS\platformrebuilder.exe> build-log.txt
if not "%errorlevel%"=="0" goto error

you can do this with visual kitchen or build_rom.bat in old style batch kitchen works the same :)

[Farmer Ted]

Thanks, guys!

(I'll probably just upgrade the kitchen, but it's good to know how to edit the batch file.)

Edit: Wow, editting the .bat file was pretty easy. Thanks for the instructions. Right clicking wouldn't give me the 'open with' option, so I changed the file extension to .txt and editted it that way (in case any other noobola needs the help).

[wmserver]

Visual Kitchen 1.8.1 automatically creates the log, just update to that version. Then you can see your slot assignments.

I thought Da_G had to use a customized version of the Visual Kitchen in his kitchen to get it to work properly.
Specifically the using of htcrt instead of nbhutil.

If the only difference is the kitchen_build_rom.bat, then we could edit that to get it working.

[sallal]

and then ? what should i do next ? cuz with LGMPD nothing works... its like there stood "this and that is not available without a partition table"

Thanks in advance

Sallal

Is here anyone german who could tell me (maybe on messenger) how to do this ?

[indagroove]

21840, thanks to conflipper:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showpost.php?p=1097089&postcount=6852

[DomSim]

k i just upgraded my visual kitchen to 1.8.1 and am now getting an error,
ERROR!!!!!
542 Modules present; Too many modules.... with 6.1 NK.exe and 6.5 XIP you' ll have non-bootable ROM.... Exiting...
and it will not build a rom. with the older version i had no issues creating a rom with the exact same packages selected. i looked and there are tons of files converted to modules in the sys files. should i "un-recmod" these to fix this? i have read and know a 6.5 nk.exe can handle more but i can only find gsm nk.exe and i have a sprint touch pro. any advice?

[danthman2000]

k i just upgraded my visual kitchen to 1.8.1 and am now getting an error,

and it will not build a rom. with the older version i had no issues creating a rom with the exact same packages selected. i looked and there are tons of files converted to modules in the sys files. should i "un-recmod" these to fix this? i have read and know a 6.5 nk.exe can handle more but i can only find gsm nk.exe and i have a sprint touch pro. any advice?

Did you select "Real WM 6.5 AKU" on the top?

[DomSim]

Did you select "Real WM 6.5 AKU" on the top?

every time i did that before it would create a non booting rom but i believe i remember reading that the new version of the kitchen has a fix for that. trying this... thanks :)

[joojoobee666]

k i just upgraded my visual kitchen to 1.8.1 and am now getting an error,

and it will not build a rom. with the older version i had no issues creating a rom with the exact same packages selected. i looked and there are tons of files converted to modules in the sys files. should i "un-recmod" these to fix this? i have read and know a 6.5 nk.exe can handle more but i can only find gsm nk.exe and i have a sprint touch pro. any advice?

Keep recmodding. There is no 6.5 native nk.exe for the CDMA touch pros yet.

recmod all of adobeflash (both folders for good measure), all of browsingie, and MediaOS (Windows Media Player) if that's not enough. (I still recommend MediaOS if you don't use WMP a WHOLE lot.)

You can go into the options and change the max module count to a higher number, but I advise against doing so seeing as you only have a 6.1 kernel.

[indagroove]

Keep recmodding. There is no 6.5 native nk.exe for the CDMA touch pros yet.

recmod all of adobeflash (both folders for good measure), all of browsingie, and MediaOS (Windows Media Player) if that's not enough. (I still recommend MediaOS if you don't use WMP a WHOLE lot.)

You can go into the options and change the max module count to a higher number, but I advise against doing so seeing as you only have a 6.1 kernel.

You can also recmod widgets, windowslive, windowsliveIM, and sim_TK.

[DomSim]

k, that got me past the module count part, but now i am getting this error,
ImgFs Flash Region log blocks was 0x1, now is 0x2
Storage Flash Region log block was 0xffffffff, now is 0xffffffff,
Done!
ERROR! (errorlevel: -1073741819)

ERROR executing: kitchen_build_rom.bat

ERROR!!!
Wait some seconds...

No ''SVN'' folders present..

here is my build_log, im getting frustrated :( i have built a hundred roms with this kitchen and now its broke :(

[ervius]

k, that got me past the module count part, but now i am getting this error,


here is my build_log, im getting frustrated :( i have built a hundred roms with this kitchen and now its broke :(

see in your log:
Implantxip & Payload Resizer v. 1.1 by ervius!!!
XIP: xip.bin not found!
XIP not Inserted!
xip.bin wasn't found.....
and...
Executing Processes..... wait.....

Executing: platformrebuilder.exe.....

platformrebuilder.exe Executed successfull!!!

seems that platformrebuilder was crashed....
some troubles into xip section of kitchen, or some other (maybe module overwritting by file or vicevesra), but something wrong....
check better in rom\ folder and also in sys\
bye!

[indagroove]

k, that got me past the module count part, but now i am getting this error,


here is my build_log, im getting frustrated :( i have built a hundred roms with this kitchen and now its broke :(

That's the exact reason I haven't upgraded from 1.6 yet -- I'm scared..

[DomSim]

That's the exact reason I haven't upgraded from 1.6 yet -- I'm scared..

i went back to your version and now am getting a "Rom Kitchen Executable has stopped working" error grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[b16b]

this is my problem on KAISER 96 dpi 240 x320

some stuff is bigger than usual

http://briefcases.pathfinder.gr/download/613300


Anyone with the same problem or with solution??

[indagroove]

this is my problem on KAISER 96 dpi 240 x320

some stuff is bigger than usual

http://briefcases.pathfinder.gr/download/613300


Anyone with the same problem or with solution??

Um, well, um..

That's kinda the point of the newer builds. Your fix is to go back to an older build.

[b16b]

Um, well, um..

That's kinda the point of the newer builds. Your fix is to go back to an older build.

i think in vga all the size is good right? or i'm wrong?
if i'm right somethings goes wrong with 96 dpi

[bga7x]

Not a normal issue im having I cant selecte a sms message. If i get a text and try to open it it by pressing it nothing happens I also cant create a new message what am i missing i have been trying to find an answer but i havent seen anyone with this issue this with build 23025. Thanks in advance!

[supps2]

Not a normal issue im having I cant selecte a sms message. If i get a text and try to open it it by pressing it nothing happens I also cant create a new message what am i missing i have been trying to find an answer but i havent seen anyone with this issue this with build 23025. Thanks in advance!

I have this same problem, cannot read sms or email. Went back to an older build.

[+ Que PPC]

see in your log:
Implantxip & Payload Resizer v. 1.1 by ervius!!!
XIP: xip.bin not found!
XIP not Inserted!
xip.bin wasn't found.....
and...
Executing Processes..... wait.....

Executing: platformrebuilder.exe.....

platformrebuilder.exe Executed successfull!!!

seems that platformrebuilder was crashed....
some troubles into xip section of kitchen, or some other (maybe module overwritting by file or vicevesra), but something wrong....
check better in rom\ folder and also in sys\
bye!

1.8.1 still has errors for me so I stay with 1.6

That's the exact reason I haven't upgraded from 1.6 yet -- I'm scared..

i went back to your version and now am getting a "Rom Kitchen Executable has stopped working" error grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

WIch error BTW post in the ervius Kitchen thread man! download the 1.6 and you will be good to go!

this is my problem on KAISER 96 dpi 240 x320

some stuff is bigger than usual

Anyone with the same problem or with solution??

RRR::: Um, well, um..

That's kinda the point of the newer builds. Your fix is to go back to an older build.

LOL

[DomSim]

welp just started over with a fresh kitchen and moved my oems and packages into it. seems to be working. i think my xip folder got corrupted or something. some wouldnt show up in the xip drop down even after moving a new version into it. beats me, but thanks for the help guys

[programatix]

If you get a build-log.txt file, it's in there. It also goes by really quickly on the command screen. You can pause the screen with the scroll bar and maybe write it down (good luck with that, I've tried). If you don't get a build log, this is what 2pumpchump said you can do:

I haven't figured that one out yet, lol. Maybe one of these days.

Hi,

If you use the ">" operator, the output will be redirected to the destination you've entered, eg "> a.txt" will output to a.txt and ">lpt1" will output to LPT1 port.

Anyway, if you want to see the output in the command prompt while outputing to a text file, you can use the mtee.exe found in the Tools folder. To send the output to the mtee.exe, you need to use the | operator, like this,
TOOLS\platformrebuilder.exe | tools\mtee build-log.txt

By doing so, the output is outputed into mtee.exe. mtee.exe is a little tool which display the output to the screen while writing to the text file mentioned. This way, we can still see what is happening while having to keep the log in a file. But of course, all the coloured text will be missing.

Attached is the modified kitchen_build_rom.bat (xda doesn't allow me to upload a .bat file. So I rename it to a .txt file. Just rename it back to .bat) to be placed in the Tools folder. I believe the mtee.exe is already in the Tools folder, so I'm not attaching it.

[+ Que PPC]

Check my pictorial to see how to set all the folders.... :D :cool:

[joojoobee666]

this is my problem on KAISER 96 dpi 240 x320

some stuff is bigger than usual

http://briefcases.pathfinder.gr/download/613300


Anyone with the same problem or with solution??

The OK and X button can be fixed. Check a few pages back, someone posted the corrected PNG's. Other than that, everything looks normal to me. Welcome to 6.5.1 :D

Edit: here's the fix for the buttons ->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4312259&postcount=567

[Captain_Throwback]

I use to use AutoRun but it is older and is slowly being replaced by RunCC. RunCC has much more future potential. I have been using RunCC for a long time with no problems untill the last 2 builds. Also some of the Rhodium and Topaz Packages require RunCC. I hope there is a fix. I think I'm in need os some newer packages or different RunCC settings.
Hi bobsbbq - I was wondering if you could help me understand what RunCC is, and how to use it. I don't want to clutter this thread, so I started a new one just for this question. Perhaps you (or anyone else that knows) could share your knowledge about this? Thanks!

[Q] What is RunCC, and how do I use it? (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=547372)

Thanks, guys!

(I'll probably just upgrade the kitchen, but it's good to know how to edit the batch file.)

Edit: Wow, editting the .bat file was pretty easy. Thanks for the instructions. Right clicking wouldn't give me the 'open with' option, so I changed the file extension to .txt and editted it that way (in case any other noobola needs the help).
Hey FT, all you have to do is right-click on the .bat file and choose "Edit" from the shortcut menu. That will open it in Notepad, without having to change anything (I was confused about this too, since I'm used to using "Open With...").

[indagroove]

Not a normal issue im having I cant selecte a sms message. If i get a text and try to open it it by pressing it nothing happens I also cant create a new message what am i missing i have been trying to find an answer but i havent seen anyone with this issue this with build 23025. Thanks in advance!

I have this same problem, cannot read sms or email. Went back to an older build.

It's not a sys problem. I can read sms and emails fine with 23025.

[d_train]

Any interest in a thread similar to this for the latest 6.1 release? (i.e. all languages, dpi, pizza parties, so forth)

Sounds good to me, you have my vote.

If the latest is 21054 - I was able to locate and use 21127 ages ago, extracted from an Atom I think (too long ago :))...also tried to extract 21128 from anOmnia I saw posted on xBeta, got the xip, but not the sys.

Is this possibly a hexed version of something else? It has some gui changes which began to appear in the early wm6.5 builds, like the ok up the top right and the start logo, so I assumed it was right.

Can I get a WM6.5 native nk.exe for the NIKI :) - only kidding :D:D

Thanks

DT

[Merckle]

Are there any roms this is cooked in? CDMA Touch Pro here

[ace10134]

Are there any roms this is cooked in? CDMA Touch Pro here

This isn't the place to ask or look. You have your own forums somewhere.

[+ Que PPC]

Altho I dont think in any chef to cook this and post for a public release
its too buggy atm

[The Jack of Clubs]

people at microsoft arent saying "yeah, this looks sexy, dont change a thing!" are they?

[Cal-El]

Altho I dont think in any chef to cook this and post for a public release
its too buggy atm Here you go! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465135 :D

[+ Que PPC]

Simply amazing and is the worst version
:(

http://hosting.gamercl.com/images/omg.jpg

Personally i love that build :rolleyes: (sarcasm at its very high level!!!)

[Cal-El]

Simply amazing and is the worst version (quote)
Right! I love this build a least the direction it is going and wish I could tweak it a little more to my tastes but this is the first build have realy taken an intrest in! I started cooking two days ago and I am learning so much from you guys and reading what you post! :)

[indagroove]

Altho I dont think in any chef to cook this and post for a public release
its too buggy atm

I gotta disagree. This is the most stable of the 2302X series so far. The only minor bug is the dialer IMO, which is way better than the previous 2302X builds.

I have a very nice CDMA Diamond ROM right here with this sys:
http://www.everythingdiamond.info/showthread.php?t=460

[joojoobee666]

I gotta disagree. This is the most stable of the 2302X series so far. The only minor bug is the dialer IMO, which is way better than the previous 2302X builds.


Agreed, seems to be running very nice for me on my CDMA Touch Pro I made in my kitchen. Actually usable (after some tweaks). The finger based improvements are finally starting to come around.

[Farmer Ted]

Just for posterity, here's my memory map (23016). I haven't converted any files to modules, so I was pretty surprised when I had a few 'out of memory' errors with MSVC. They occurred right after a soft reset, but I remembered that both times it was when I was restoring my pim stuff with sk tools backup. It does a soft reset, then boots up sk tools again. I also have Sip Changer running (to set FingerKeyboard up), and it runs right on start up. I guess the combo of those two programs booting up messes with MSVC when it's starting up. Not a big deal. I've got Slot 60 and 0 empty, so I should have plenty of VM (as far as I understand it). Thanks for all the help getting the build-log going (2pumpchump, Programatix and Capn_T-Back).

Memory Map...
SLOT 0: 0x02000000 - 0x01b70000 (END: 0x00060000, 0 MODULES)
0x02000000 - 0x01fc0000 - ROM 0
0x01f80000 - 0x01b70000 - ROM 1
SLOT 1: 0x04000000 - 0x02022000 (END: 0x02020000, 213 MODULES)
SLOT 60: 0x7a000000 - 0x7a000000 (END: 0x78020000, 0 MODULES)
SLOT 61: 0x7c000000 - 0x7a3f0000 (END: 0x7a020000, 246 MODULES)

RAM IMAGE: 0x80000000 - 0x803e21dc

RAM: 0x803e3000 - 0x80493000 - Used for kernel modules
0x80493000 - 0x83400000 - 47 MB free

[the.decoy]

I thought htey had updated poutlook and that was the reason they werent working. Sounds more logical that something was missing. I have been asking developers to please update their software because I thought they had called a certain version of PocketOutlook(now I feel silly :o )

So what is the final word on PocketOutlook now?
(sorry have been offline for +24hrs and now playing catch-up)
I don't think it was "forgotten" as I can still see it there under BaseApps :confused:

EDIT: Nevermind, got it FIXED! :D
Just need to replace \BaseApps\GAC_XXX_v1_0_0_0_cneutral_1.dll files with those from 23022.
(you can just copy them into Windows dir on a running rom too)


PS: LMAO at all of the "Gimme Gimme native kernel" posts! Especially from those of us with wm5/6 native devices?? :p Who did they think was out there making oem wm6.5 roms to extract them from??? :eek:

However, while on that subject ... I was also very curious about whether there are any tools to inspect the VM slot 0 usage in a running system as I have had to recmod a tonne of modules to get slot 0 free and I'd love to know what files just end up back in there dynamically anyway.

Actually ... are there any particular files under SYS that absolutely must be modules? Just curious :)

Thanks!

[watzone69]

I gotta disagree. This is the most stable of the 2302X series so far. The only minor bug is the dialer IMO, which is way better than the previous 2302X builds.

I have a very nice CDMA Diamond ROM right here with this sys:
http://www.everythingdiamond.info/showthread.php?t=460

...and he's not the only one.

http://www.everythingdiamond.info/showthread.php?t=81

[chelsea_fc]

anyone success running beejive on the latest build?

[Cal-El]

I'd love to figure this out because I find the VOLUME buttons useless. I personally keep my phone on Vibrate always. So why waste 2 perfectly good buttons? On my dell Axim x51v... I had my up/down volume buttons launch wireless manager and... and something else. But it was great.

I personally hate volume buttons and is the SOLE reason I use HTC Volume manager because the difference is the stock will CHANGE the volume on a single press vs the HTC Volume Manager will launch on a single press but not change anything until a second press. Using the stock volume controller, I'd find my phone either on VERY low volume or silent (both useless).

So with the buttons reassigned like they are being reported... I'd like that. I'm thinking that if we can find what is the cause, that maybe we can figure out a way to completely remap the volume keys like we have with the rest of the buttons. found out how the volume on the fuze works now! If you press up once on the volume it will bring up the titlebar list hit the volume icon and it will go into the volume screen, your volume buttons will work then but you need to do this everytime you want to change volume! Kinda sucks but works til something better comes along! :)

[Röchelhilpert]

Where can i find 218xx 0407 Lang_Files ?

[player911]

I can't wait to get back home to start playing with this rom. I've gotten my 23016 rom so fine that it just works; for me it is perfect. I'm outta town till this Sunday but leave again in 3 days after I arrive... then its 5 home and 7 out of town again. My crazy side wants to flash this but my logical side says to wait.

AHHH. Lookin' good though guys. I'm hoping that by the time I get to my kitchen, the revisions will be a bit more solid. Keep posting bug problems and fixes as I'm trying to keep up on my EDGE connected Fuze (no 3G sucks!)

[narshorn]

Just for posterity, here's my memory map (23016). I haven't converted any files to modules, so I was pretty surprised when I had a few 'out of memory' errors with MSVC. They occurred right after a soft reset, but I remembered that both times it was when I was restoring my pim stuff with sk tools backup. It does a soft reset, then boots up sk tools again. I also have Sip Changer running (to set FingerKeyboard up), and it runs right on start up. I guess the combo of those two programs booting up messes with MSVC when it's starting up. Not a big deal. I've got Slot 60 and 0 empty, so I should have plenty of VM (as far as I understand it). Thanks for all the help getting the build-log going (2pumpchump, Programatix and Capn_T-Back).

Memory Map...
SLOT 0: 0x02000000 - 0x01b70000 (END: 0x00060000, 0 MODULES)
0x02000000 - 0x01fc0000 - ROM 0
0x01f80000 - 0x01b70000 - ROM 1
SLOT 1: 0x04000000 - 0x02022000 (END: 0x02020000, 213 MODULES)
SLOT 60: 0x7a000000 - 0x7a000000 (END: 0x78020000, 0 MODULES)
SLOT 61: 0x7c000000 - 0x7a3f0000 (END: 0x7a020000, 246 MODULES)

RAM IMAGE: 0x80000000 - 0x803e21dc

RAM: 0x803e3000 - 0x80493000 - Used for kernel modules
0x80493000 - 0x83400000 - 47 MB free

How do we achieve such a check ? Whick are the tools to do so ?

-Interested-

brds,

nar

EDIT : don't bother I found :)

[joojoobee666]

... I was also very curious about whether there are any tools to inspect the VM slot 0 usage in a running system as I have had to recmod a tonne of modules to get slot 0 free and I'd love to know what files just end up back in there dynamically anyway.

Actually ... are there any particular files under SYS that absolutely must be modules? Just curious :)

Thanks!

Yeah, exactly what I was asking about earlier. Da_G? Anyone?

[B4PJS]

It seems as though I may have messed my kitchen up a bit by going overboard on turning files to modules. I can no longer:
Install Themes
Install cabs
Install PROVXML with FdcSoft Tasmanager

Has anyone come across this problem before and what do I need to do to fix it? Should I just overwrite my current kitchen with the version I have in archive?

[X1iser]

Someone have 040C mui for the build 23025 ?

[edvavi]

anyone success running beejive on the latest build?

Im running 23025 and beejive is working...

[TotalFire]

Ive been looking for all day to try and find a fix for the start menu on wm6.5 build 23025. Ive heard there have been problems with the start menu but I dont know if anyone has had this problem. If someone has a fix for this or has any ideas of how I could fix this please tell me. Below i have uploaded an image of what happens, basically when in the start menu the icons drag leave a trailling effect and also the background image is not visible.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1903/startmenuq.jpg

[smaury]

Are you using new DPI from 0409 archive posted in #1??
If u use old DPIs it does like that!
With new ones it works!

[+ Que PPC]

CPRS corrupted... does anyone has the cprs that works for this guy.... Thanks... :cool:

[TotalFire]

Are you using new DPI from 0409 archive posted in #1??
If u use old DPIs it does like that!
With new ones it works!

I got build 23025 from a different thread so it will more than likley be the old ones. Thanks i'll try the new DPI now.

[+ Que PPC]

23027? anybody? red from ervius VK thread a version 23027... :o

[Farmer Ted]

However, while on that subject ... I was also very curious about whether there are any tools to inspect the VM slot 0 usage in a running system as I have had to recmod a tonne of modules to get slot 0 free and I'd love to know what files just end up back in there dynamically anyway.

Actually ... are there any particular files under SYS that absolutely must be modules? Just curious :)

Thanks!

Da_G posted this in the old thread, but if you can figure the stuff in this article (http://www.codeproject.com/KB/mobile/VirtualMemory.aspx) out, you might be able to do it.

Edit: it's real easy to use; check 3 posts down.

[stouph52]

Ive been looking for all day to try and find a fix for the start menu on wm6.5 build 23025. Ive heard there have been problems with the start menu but I dont know if anyone has had this problem. If someone has a fix for this or has any ideas of how I could fix this please tell me. Below i have uploaded an image of what happens, basically when in the start menu the icons drag leave a trailling effect and also the background image is not visible.

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/1903/startmenuq.jpg


perhaps you don't have any virtual memory recmode some module

[stouph52]

hi every body

i have a problem with netcf 3.5 i change with old version
i have an error with fingerkeyboard config ,it say me netcf error
anyone have a idea

[Farmer Ted]

Actually, that virtual memory article has an app that takes VM snapshots. Just download the 'source code' link. It is a zip file, and inside of it is a file called 'virtualmemory.exe.' Here's a snapshot of slot 1 on my device. Don't even both asking me what it means yet, lol.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2650/3817232905_b4a6fcd231.jpg

[Alan-B]

perhaps you don't have any virtual memory recmode some module

Hi,
The problems is in StartMenu_Global !!
Sample:

<Form Width="XXX" Height="XXX">
<Image ID="Background" Left="0" Top="-52" />
</Form>

added:

<Image ID="Background" Left="0" Top="-52" Visible="True" Opacity="1.0" ScalingAlgorithm = "TriLinear" Source="ConfettiPlus::WallpaperBitmap"/>
</Form>

[TotalFire]

perhaps you don't have any virtual memory recmode some module

Fixed it now just needed to change dpi's like said above

[agent_47]

i have been playing arround to get rid of the extra large "softkeybar".
1. changed DPI
2. changed resh*
3. changed whole shell folder
4. changed whole OS.
all these are no good :o
m out of ideas. ill try to swap some corefiles but i donno if it will work

anyone have any ideas?

[Nixeus]

Hello,

anyon know how to disable the New Interface ( the finger interface in the builds > 2302x), because i prefer the standard interface.

I have replace with 23016 DPI files but, there is again the finger interface.

Anyone know which files/folders replacing ?

Thanks a lot :)

[kane159]

every body here is the fix for huge X and ok for qvga for all original tsk;)
enjoy

[dcd1182]

Whats the point of these frankenstein builds? The changes from 23016 to 23025 are mainly the GUI. Why not run 23016 if you want 23016? Whats the point of trying to turn 23025 into a 23016 with unknown side effects? You are going to cause yourself problems by trying to make half and half builds.

[+ Que PPC]

Hello,

anyon know how to disable the New Interface ( the finger interface in the builds > 2302x), because i prefer the standard interface.

I have replace with 23016 MUI but, there is again the finger interface.

Anyone know which files/folders replacing ?

Thanks a lot :)

mmmm yes change the.... SYS folder!! :p this is the UI dude... if you want older UI get 23017...

[joojoobee666]

Actually, that virtual memory article has an app that takes VM snapshots. Just download the 'source code' link. It is a zip file, and inside of it is a file called 'virtualmemory.exe.' Here's a snapshot of slot 1 on my device. Don't even both asking me what it means yet, lol.


That's great, and is related to the problem. However, how do we see WHAT dll/exe is allocated where/how? I got my ROM down to 0 modules in slot 0 on BUILD, but would like to know what dll's are being allocated (be it dynamically or during build) I could then recmod some the lesser used dll's that are being allocated as modules so that they aren't wasting VM space, then reversemode some of the other modules again (like .NET) since they are used quite often.

(BTW, that does work, but appears to only profile Slot 1, which isn't the main concern here, right? Maybe the code is simple enough so that I we can rewrite it to dump Slot 0 instead)

[Da_G]

I'm glad you found that page Farmer Ted, I coudn't find my post where I linked to it, been trying to find it for a couple days now!

And bookmarks, I dont know wtf those are, haha :P

The program is able to show you different slots, just use the d-pad left and right :)

[B4PJS]

Talking of slots, I am finding it real hard to fill slot 60! 13.6mb to go!!!

BTW I tried reversmoddin netcf but half the dll's didnt turn to modules. Whats that about?

[kane159]

hello mester:)
may I ask you how to make WM 6.5 Native Kernels (compatible with SLOT 60/61) for my Trinity please:)

[ai6908]

Hello,

anyon know how to disable the New Interface ( the finger interface in the builds > 2302x), because i prefer the standard interface.

I have replace with 23016 DPI files but, there is again the finger interface.

Anyone know which files/folders replacing ?

Thanks a lot :)

I think replacing gwes.exe from 23016 should fix it! Let me know if it does.

[Da_G]

reversemode.exe is not a perfect tool, sometimes there are issues (one reason i'm working on the underlying toolset)

Some info on what you see in VirtualMemory.exe:

Each "Bar" is a slot. You are seeing slots 1 through 32 (user space slots)

Slot 0 is essentially holding a copy of the current process, minus the space taken by XIP and IMGFS modules (xip defined in .VM and IMGFS defined in .ROM)

[+ Que PPC]

hello mester:)
may I ask you how to make WM 6.5 Native Kernels (compatible with SLOT 60/61) for my Trinity please:)

Again...?? kane read a lil pages back this makes some nontheless posts some time ago... be care.

[joojoobee666]

I'm glad you found that page Farmer Ted, I coudn't find my post where I linked to it, been trying to find it for a couple days now!

And bookmarks, I dont know wtf those are, haha :P

The program is able to show you different slots, just use the d-pad left and right :)

According to the app developer " Slot 0 is assigned to the currently running process, and thus is not graphed.", so still leaves out out in the cold, not to mention, this still doesn't seem to add up. It's like we are talking about 2 different Slot 0's here. Unless it is not, and the modules we are allocating to slot 0 are just there waiting to be accessed by whatever process is currently running on 0, in which case, it would still be nice to know. Can you clarify?

[Da_G]

@joojoobee666: No, that info is correct. did you see my last post? I think you were typing that when I made it :)

Maybe I can explain it a little better?

Assuming you have a program, lets say beer.exe

beer.exe requires 2 components, hops.dll and barley.dll

one time, you cook a ROM with hops.dll and barley.dll stored as modules. let's assume for the moment they only have read only code (read/write code must execute in slot 0)

so, you cook the ROM, and they are pre-allocated to slot 60/61/1.

now when you run beer.exe and look at virtualmemory.exe's bar - there's a minimal amount of space used (only that required by beer.exe's code itself) - the read only code in hops.dll and barley.dll is still loaded, but pre-allocated to slot 60/61/1 so it doesn't require any VM space in the slot reserved for beer.exe upon execution.

so now, lets cook the ROM, this time barley.dll is a FILE rather than a module

now, looking at VirtualMemory.exe, the bar for beer.exe shows more space being eaten up (toward the top of the bar)

this space is the memory required by barley.dll - now instead of being pre-allocated to slot 60/61/1, it's loaded into the slot reserved for beer.exe.

This is something you want to avoid, because when it's copied to slot 0 (when it becomes the active process) you're cramming it even more, because there's space reserved there already.

That's what it means when you say that "all recmodded modules are dynamically assigned to slot 0 vs. being pre-allocated to slot 60/61/1"

Hope it makes some sense :)

[joojoobee666]

@joojoobee666: No, that info is correct. did you see my last post? I think you were typing that when I made it :)

You are right, but I am still trying to get clarification. I understand that the most processes we are allowed to run is 32 and how those slots apply, just how does Slot 0 and allocation during the build process apply? Where are these modules that are getting allocated to Slot 0 during build getting allocated too? If it is to "Slot 0" does that mean those allocations are gone for ANY app that moves to slot 0 when running?

Edit: we crossed posted again, lol. But I think we are getting closer. Only, I only have Slot 0 and 1, so what happens when something is allocated to slot 0 during build? What I mentioned above?

[Da_G]

I updated the post, take a read :)

Slot 0 space is marked off as reserved,

.VM handles this for NK/XIP modules (the first dword contained in imageinfo.bin of .VM tells the VM allocator where it can start allocating modules)

Example: you use 512KB of space in XIP modules

Slot 0 is 0x00000000 to 0x01FFFFFF

Allocation is top-down, the allocator reads the .VM upon boot,

imageinfo.bin first dword is something like 0x01F80000 (note 2 things here. the value is stored little-endian in the imageinfo.bin - so it appears in a hex editor as 00 00 F8 01. also, it is aligned to a 64KB boundary [modules are allocated to a 4KB boundary in NK/XIP, the allocator marks off the space in 64KB boundaries though])

so that tells the allocator - "space between 0x01FFFFFF and 0x01F80000 is taken by modules in NK/XIP, don't use it for dynamic allocation"

The 2nd dword in the file is the same thing, for slot 1.

.ROM contains similar values marking off the space for IMGFS modules.

Also, for the purposes of this discussion, it is useful to note that the imageinfo.txt for both .VM and .ROM is meaningless, it is trying to interpret the first data stream in .VM and .ROM as a ROM header, which it is not. So when working with these files you must ignore the imageinfo.txt alltogether, and only use the .bin :)

[joojoobee666]

I updated the post, take a read :)

Ok, just to make sure I have it then. If it is allocated to Slot 0 during the build, that space is gone for EVERY app that runs from Slot 0 (which could be really bad if it is not allocated to Slot 1/60 or 61). So if I have 15MB of modules be allocated during build that only leaves 17MB for any one particular running application, since 15MB of slot 0 has been allocated to other things. If that is correct, let me know. So the last question is, how do we see a list of items that are allocated in Slot 1 AND Slot 0 dynamically and during build? I figure there has got to be quite a few dll's and such being allocated to Slot 1 that are RARELY used, and I would be better off recmodding those, then leaving some of the more heavily used items as modules (i.e. IE modules, since I run out of VM, even with Slot 0 free on build and Free Physical RAM, probably because the DLL's are just being dynamically assigned in to Slot 0 when run, hence losing that RAM). Sorry for all the questions, I just HAVE to know, lol.

[Da_G]

Yes, it sounds correct re: slot 0/1

By the way I updated my last post too, what a mess for someone following the conversation :)

To view what you want, you're looking for a program like this, it will dump the memory layout on device to a log:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362333

[farahbolsey]

Hi,

first thanx Da_G for this topic, I've learned a lot reading first pages.

I'm working on LG KS20 23025 WWE / French ROMS (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3617267#post3617267).

And I'm facing a problem with the "date and time" menu where GMT location is too large and covers time set area. (see attached picture).
I don't have this issue with WWE ROM, only with 040C. My guess is that it's lang related but don't have a clue how to fix this ?
so any help will be nice
Thanx,

Franck

[Da_G]

@farahbolsey:

Looks like there might be a problem with the .mui there, you can look at the forms etc. defined in it with PE Explorer, maybe a simple resize will take care of it. (btw that's a bit of an advanced topic, hacking resources etc. just in case you dont want to get into that) :)

There's a good chance that would be fixed in a future update.

[joojoobee666]

Yes, it sounds correct re: slot 0/1

By the way I updated my last post too, what a mess for someone following the conversation :)

To view what you want, you're looking for a program like this, it will dump the memory layout on device to a log:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362333

Excellent, I will check that app out later today, hopefully it will show me everything I am looking for.

WHEW! *wipes sweat from brow* That was a nice brain racking discussion, that's what I'm talkin' about :D I think I now fully understand.

Edit: Almost forgot...Thanks!

[joojoobee666]

Yo Da_G, maybe some of that converstion could be sumarized and moved to post 2 on this thread so that everyone else can pick up on this. Just a thought :cool:

[indagroove]

So, I finally upgraded to 1.8.1, and am wondering how many modules we can get away with in slot 0? My build log is looking like this:

Memory Map...
SLOT 0: 0x02000000 - 0x01320000 (END: 0x00060000, 65 MODULES)
0x02000000 - 0x01fc0000 - ROM 0
0x01f80000 - 0x01d50000 - ROM 1
SLOT 1: 0x04000000 - 0x02020000 (END: 0x02020000, 311 MODULES)
RAM IMAGE: 0x80000000 - 0x803b6edc
RAM: 0x803b7000 - 0x803ec000 - Used for kernel modules
0x803ec000 - 0x83400000 - 48 MB free



Is 65 modules in slot 0 too many? Will I simply run out of VM faster, or are there other potential issues that I should be concerned with?

The strange thing is that when I started the build process, the dialog said that I had 500 modules, but 65 and 311 obviously don't add up to 500. What am I missing here (aside from a 6.5 NK)?

[Da_G]

@joojoobee: good idea, i'll see if i can 'dumb it down' a little and post it up on the first page with the rest of the virtual memory stuffs. i'll leave that on a todo for tomorrow :)

@indagroove: really what's important is this:

0x01320000 (END: 0x00060000

You've got space between 0x60000 and 0x1320000 free, a bit of hex math and we end up with 18MB available in SLOT 0.

That's pretty darn cramped, I don't see that working too well, although I have seen OEM ROM's as cramped as 12MB :)

After looking at all the logs from everyone's PRB output, it does appear there may be an issue with PRB's relocation algorithm, as there appears to be too much free space in most cases.. it shows SLOT 0 ROM 1 ending at 0x01D50000, and the allocator starting at 0x01320000, that's exactly 10MB of VM in SLOT 0 that appears to be wasted, unless my math is off or i'm not accounting for something else reserved there. Anyone check my math? There is plenty of potential for wasted space due to the alignment on page boundarys, but it shouldnt be THAT much.

Re: the number of modules listed, erv vk might be also counting XIP modules (normally around 32) - but that only bumps you up to 400ish. .VM and .ROM might also be counted as modules (although they are not) - maybe the algo used to calc modules is mistakenly counting every subfolder in the \SYS too, that might bump it up to 500, it does seem to be off though.

But again the number of modules really isn't an issue, it's the size eaten by them :)

[joojoobee666]

So, I finally upgraded to 1.8.1, and am wondering how many modules we can get away with in slot 0? My build log is looking like this:

Memory Map...
SLOT 0: 0x02000000 - 0x01320000 (END: 0x00060000, 65 MODULES)
0x02000000 - 0x01fc0000 - ROM 0
0x01f80000 - 0x01d50000 - ROM 1
SLOT 1: 0x04000000 - 0x02020000 (END: 0x02020000, 311 MODULES)
RAM IMAGE: 0x80000000 - 0x803b6edc
RAM: 0x803b7000 - 0x803ec000 - Used for kernel modules
0x803ec000 - 0x83400000 - 48 MB free



Is 65 modules in slot 0 too many? Will I simply run out of VM faster, or are there other potential issues that I should be concerned with?

The strange thing is that when I started the build process, the dialog said that I had 500 modules, but 65 and 311 obviously don't add up to 500. What am I missing here (aside from a 6.5 NK)?


Just to chime in on as far as some of the items I have found and recmodded. I've gotten my Slot 0 down to 0 on 23016 (don't know how much is getting wasted dynamically after boot yet). I've been going through dll's and recmodding them then checking them out with a resource hacker program. I've found a few that can definitely be recmodded, like the dll's starting with peg*.dll in the Shell folder. One of them has ONLY all the card images for Solitaire, as well as app exe's like fexplore, taskmgr, notes, sndplyr, etc, etc. I'm sure they don't need to wasting VM space ALL the time. Also, you can find some resource realted dll's in the 0409. Happy module hunting :D

[dcd1182]

Just to chime in on as far as some of the items I have found and recmodded. I've gotten my Slot 0 down to 0 on 23016 (don't know how much is getting wasted dynamically after boot yet). I've been going through dll's and recmodding them then checking them out with a resource hacker program. I've found a few that can definitely be recmodded, like the dll's starting with peg*.dll in the Shell folder. One of them has ONLY all the card images for Solitaire, as well as app exe's like fexplore, taskmgr, notes, sndplyr, etc, etc. I'm sure they don't need to wasting VM space ALL the time. Also, you can find some resource realted dll's in the 0409. Happy module hunting :D

per post #2, you actually want to leave resource-only dll's as modules so they can take advantage of slot 63. that was my understanding - someone please correct me if im wrong.

[joojoobee666]

per post #2, you actually want to leave resource-only dll's as modules so they can take advantage of slot 63. that was my understanding - someone please correct me if im wrong.

Funny you should say that, I was just getting ready to ask (just reread again and noticed that), how can we know if it will be allocated to Slot 63? (i.e. what identifies it as resource only, and how can I easily tell). Clearly some of those appeared as resource only to me, but still freed up the space so it was being identified as code based.

One more thing, if I understand the allocation, this is done in 64KB chunks, so a 3KB exe or dll module will still use 64KB of VM space, is that correct?

[Da_G]

A resource only module has no code in it :)

Using PE Explorer as an example:

Every module in \Base_DPI_192 for example, is a resource-only module. Easiest way to tell is to recmod it and open up in PE Explorer - There's a tab for "Section Headers"
which describes each section (s00x) in the file -

If it only has a .rsrc (Resource section) - It's a resource-only module.

If it has .pdata or a .data section, it's got some code in it, and is not a resource-only module.

:)

[Da_G]

Also note some more info re: VM here. (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms925493.aspx)

There are some intricacies described there like filling "memory holes" with "filler" - module sections that are small enough to fit into the space left over from the modules being aligned to page boundries (free space before end of page)

I don't know if the reloc algorithms used in our tools are aware of this at all. So there's some potential wasted space to be gained there as well. Also discussed there is "uncompressed sections" - this is desirable for several reasons, one of which being if you run a NOR device, and want to XIP directly off the IMGFS, that section MUST be compressed (decompressing it means it must be copied to memory, and so cannot XIP)

Our current tools do not support flagging a section, module, or the entire filesystem to be uncompressed in any way. There's another reason i'm working on them slowly :)

[+ Que PPC]

Taking this with a Native 0 modules in slot 0

System Memory Report
====================


Page Size: 4096


| Pages | Size (bytes) | Size (MB) | Address
Total Storage (Flash) | 15084 | 61786112 | 58.92 | n/a
Available Storage | 8150 | 33382912 | 31.84 | n/a
Used Storage | 6934 | 28403200 | 27.09 | n/a


Physical RAM (sources breakdown) | 14205 | 58183680 | 55.49 | n/a
Main Memory | 14205 | 58183680 | 55.49 | 0x80283000 - 0x839fffff

Physical RAM (consumers breakdown) | 14205 | 58183680 | 55.49 | n/a
Kernel Prealloc. | 117 | 479232 | 0.46 | 0x80283000 - 0x802f7fff
Paging Pool | 1028 | 4210688 | 4.02 | 0x802f8000 - 0x806fbfff
Kernel RAM Map | 1 | 4096 | 0.00 | 0x806fc000 - 0x806fcfff
Watson Size | 32 | 131072 | 0.13 | 0x839e0000 - 0x839fffff
Overhead | 4 | 16384 | 0.02 | n/a
Object Store | 64 | 262144 | 0.25 | n/a
Program Memory | 12959 | 53080064 | 50.62 | n/a
AVAILABLE PROGRAM MEMORY | 2979 | 12201984 | 11.64 | n/a
USED PROGRAM MEMORY | 9980 | 40878080 | 38.98 | n/a
Kernel Objects | 480 | 1966080 | 1.88 | n/a
Misc | 147 | 602112 | 0.57 | n/a
Programs | 9353 | 38309888 | 36.54 | n/a
(S) Stack | 474 | 1941504 | 1.85 | n/a
(H) Heap | 3570 | 14622720 | 13.95 | n/a
(E) EXE Data | 213 | 872448 | 0.83 | n/a
(D) DLL Data | 771 | 3158016 | 3.01 | n/a
(c) Code RAM | 357 | 1462272 | 1.39 | n/a
Process | 260 | 1064960 | 1.02 | n/a
Module | 97 | 397312 | 0.38 | n/a
(r) Read only RAM | 1167 | 4780032 | 4.56 | n/a
Process | 34 | 139264 | 0.13 | n/a
Module | 914 | 3743744 | 3.57 | n/a
Map/Shared | 848 | 3473408 | 3.31 | n/a
(W) Read/Write RAM | 2801 | 11472896 | 10.94 | n/a
Process | 559 | 2289664 | 2.18 | n/a
Module | 0 | 0 | 0.00 | n/a
Map/Shared | 2242 | 9183232 | 8.76 | n/a

Then it shows every dll, where does it resides or how much ram it needs?
Btw as y'all can see... my pp is 4 but it says used program memory... almost 9... it seems my PP is not enough for programs usage?

[joojoobee666]

A resource only module has no code in it :)

Using PE Explorer as an example:

Every module in \Base_DPI_192 for example, is a resource-only module. Easiest way to tell is to recmod it and open up in PE Explorer - There's a tab for "Section Headers"
which describes each section (s00x) in the file -

If it only has a .rsrc (Resource section) - It's a resource-only module.

If it has .pdata or a .data section, it's got some code in it, and is not a resource-only module.

:)

Perfect, thank you. I've been using Resource Tuner. Just installed the trial of PE Explorer and I can see exactly what you are talking about. Now, to check some stuff out in the sys :D

[joojoobee666]

If it only has a .rsrc (Resource section) - It's a resource-only module.


What about .text? I assume resource, is this correct?

[blazingwolf]

What about .text? I assume resource, is this correct?

Not according to the MSDN page Da_G linked to. It says that it means code.

ROM section Description
.text Code
.rsrc Resource data
.data Data
.pdata Debugging and exception processing information for each function in the code section
.CRT Special section — C++ construct
.KDATA Special section — present in the kernel (Nk.exe) only

[Da_G]

Sorry, I wasn't quite clear on my wording, a resource-only module is literally that, it has resources only :)

I'll fix it when I migrate the info to the first post, I swear! :)

[joojoobee666]

Sorry, I wasn't quite clear on my wording, a resource-only module is literally that, it has resources only :)

I'll fix it when I migrate the info to the first post, I swear! :)

Thanks, I'm grateful for all of the info. With the new knowledge gained today, I found that my tsowen task bar icons had 3.5mb of dll's that were resources only, but were not modules. I made them modules (along with a few others I found and recooked)and I'm still at 0 modules for Slot 0 and also have amuch deeper understanding of the CE memory architecture.

Just to get one more thing straight, in this case what would happen if a resource DLL was NOT a module but is used 100% of the time? (like shellres.192.dll, I assume it's always loaded since the resources are constantly used) Is it treated like any other none moduled DLL when loaded? Or because it's a system DLL (in this case part of shell32 I assume), is it loaded in the slot (in my case, shell32.exe is in slot 7) that the particular system process runs under and not interfering with Slot 0, just physical RAM?

Also, if it is just a resource DLL for a user process (i.e. a resource dll for say Windows Live), will it eat up some of Slot 0 when run since it was NOT a module, or does the CE kernel know, treat it differently anyhow?

[mettercomputers]

Sorry, I wasn't quite clear on my wording, a resource-only module is literally that, it has resources only :)

I'll fix it when I migrate the info to the first post, I swear! :)

DA_G what do think about the possibility of a titan 6.5 nk.exe?

[abusalza]

Thanks, I'm grateful for all of the info. With the new knowledge gained today, I found that my tsowen task bar icons had 3.5mb of dll's that were resources only, but were not modules. I made them modules (along with a few others I found and recooked)and I'm still at 0 modules for Slot 0 and also have amuch deeper understanding of the CE memory architecture.

Just to get one more thing straight, in this case what would happen if a resource DLL was NOT a module but is used 100% of the time? (like shellres.192.dll, I assume it's always loaded since the resources are constantly used) Is it treated like any other none moduled DLL when loaded? Or because it's a system DLL (in this case part of shell32 I assume), is it loaded in the slot (in my case, shell32.exe is in slot 7) that the particular system process runs under and not interfering with Slot 0, just physical RAM?

Also, if it is just a resource DLL for a user process (i.e. a resource dll for say Windows Live), will it eat up some of Slot 0 when run since it was NOT a module, or does the CE kernel know, treat it differently anyhow?

as far as i know since an old era, g'reloc wouldn't work for resource modules, mui modules, and executable modules. but i don't know about cpl modules if it's realoc during cooking progres.
so if you care for slot 0 just recmod for modules like htmlview.dll etc (sorry i don't know what we called this type lol)
please correct me if i'm wrong...

[vagal_br]

I am Brazilian and I am using a ROM WM 6.5 build 23025 in English on my omnia, I would move to Brazilian Portuguese. I do not understand how it does. Could someone help me?

[megapinky]

help!!

i have this erros? i need to install a diferent net cf? which one? help please

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=216128&stc=1&d=1250223916 http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=216129&stc=1&d=1250223916

[Da_G]

23028:

http://rapidshare.com/files/267166945/WM65-23028-CE-OS-5-2-4075-LANG-0409-DPI-192-RESH-480-RESV-640.rar

Note that this build is timebombed! You must remove the timebomb from shell32, following the SOP.

For your convenience, i've attached a patched shell32.exe :)

A few more things are renamed from Pocket PC to Windows Phone, among other changes in this build. The "Enlarge Titlebar" function looks a heck of alot nicer in this build :)

Ooh, fancy compositing effects! :)

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/7372/pccapture14.png

@ Abusalza:

If I recall correctly, the VM handler automatically remaps modules assigned to slot 0 that are resource only to slot 63 "on the fly" - the only specific allocations required are slot 60/61/1/0

[Cal-El]

23028:

http://rapidshare.com/files/267166945/WM65-23028-CE-OS-5-2-4075-LANG-0409-DPI-192-RESH-480-RESV-640.rar

Note that this build is timebombed! You must remove the timebomb from shell32, following the SOP.

For your convenience, i've attached a patched shell32.exe :)

A few more things are renamed from Pocket PC to Windows Phone, among other changes in this build. The "Enlarge Titlebar" function looks a heck of alot nicer in this build :) Thank you soooooo much, I am all over this, I will let you know what I find out! :)

[+ Que PPC]

23028:

http://rapidshare.com/files/267166945/WM65-23028-CE-OS-5-2-4075-LANG-0409-DPI-192-RESH-480-RESV-640.rar

Note that this build is timebombed! You must remove the timebomb from shell32, following the SOP.

For your convenience, i've attached a patched shell32.exe :)

A few more things are renamed from Pocket PC to Windows Phone, among other changes in this build. The "Enlarge Titlebar" function looks a heck of alot nicer in this build :)

Ooh, fancy compositing effects! :)


So the other ress user (as me) use the 23025 dpi and lang?
The timebomb isnt disabled by default with ervius VK?
Thanks for sharing Da_G

If both question's ask is YES i will try it!!!! hahaha thanks a lot man!

[the.decoy]

help!!

i have this erros? i need to install a diferent net cf? which one? help please

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=216128&stc=1&d=1250223916

No, you just need to copy all of the BaseApps\GAC_****_v1_0_0_0_cneutral_1.dll files from 23022 (under SYS-SHARED-COMMON) and use them to replace those that are in 23025.

They are corrupt or something (and have been since 23024) ... not sure if 23028 ones are fixed.

You can also copy these files into the Windows dir on your running rom but use TotalCommander and do a soft reset straight after.

[Da_G]

@+ Que PPC:

Yes, Ervius VK will automatically patch the timebomb. However not everyone uses it, so I have also provided it for them :)

For other langs.. same as before.. if u have a problem tell me and I will try and get them out. It's alot of work to do every time, if its not needed :)

[+ Que PPC]

@+ Que PPC:

Yes, Ervius VK will automatically patch the timebomb. However not everyone uses it, so I have also provided it for them :)

For other langs.. same as before.. if u have a problem tell me and I will try and get them out. It's alot of work to do every time, if its not needed :)

Yup i knew it, thats why im asking, you know the change of 23022 to updated 23025... hehehe, thanks man...! ;)

[Cal-El]

Does anyone know where to find the files and resources for the titlebar? :)
BTW this build is very nice, thanks G!

[Da_G]

I only checked briefly, but I think the resources are in shellres.%dpi%.dll
:)

Checked closer, yes, in RCDATA section, stored as .png with transparency mask, very nice resource for modding the UI :)

all dpi 0409 posted in first post

[Röchelhilpert]

Hi DA_G thanks for the new Build ....
anybody know´s if we can use volumekey´s to set up the volume and not to switch on the titlebar ?

[Cal-El]

I only checked briefly, but I think the resources are in shellres.%dpi%.dll
:)

Checked closer, yes, in RCDATA section, stored as .png with transparency mask, very nice resource for modding the UI :)

all dpi 0409 posted in first post Good catch, upon compairing the shellres.192.dll from the last build I noticed the RCDATA file was not there! I noticed that when my custom taskbar icon cab installed only the volume icon is in the title bar when its opened! Wow, so MS changed where the resources are read from, cool!

[leoiden]

canyone know how to have the media player controls visible when wm6.5 lock screen is active ?

[hellonasty]

canyone know how to have the media player controls visible when wm6.5 lock screen is active ?

Take a look here!!!!


http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4282130&postcount=424

[the.decoy]

Thanks Da_G! :)


all dpi 0409 posted in first post

Sorry to bother you but the one thing missing from the 0409-ALL-DPI package is the actual 0409 folders :p

[Da_G]

Oops, I knew I missed something :) I'll fix the link in another 20 minutes or so :)

[drkfngthdragnlrd]

Here's a QVGA Theme I just created for the new Builds. Feel free to use to as a blueprint for making your own if you like. Now just to figure out why Titanium isn't doing the -26 to the background it used to do...

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m240/drkfngthdragnlrd/Screen01-45.png

[spacejam]

@+ Que PPC:

For other langs.. same as before.. if u have a problem tell me and I will try and get them out. It's alot of work to do every time, if its not needed :)

Really thanks Da_G, great work...
I would like to test the 23028 release in Italian 0410 language not using the incomplete 23022-0410 one, so please attach for me the 23028-0410 file as soon as you can.

Thanks in advance for your cooperation,
SJ

[Da_G]

Fixed 0409 package. Updated link in first post.

@spacejam:

What's incomplete about it?

[spacejam]

Fixed 0409 package. Updated link in first post.

@spacejam:

What's incomplete about it?

I mean that 23022-0410 could not be the same of 23028-0410

[daguerrotipo]

from 10 minutes I'm with the 23028....and all is ok. looks faster.

Please... how you meke work the sensor... it's necesary to change something in the register or only intall gsensor....
Thanks

[Cal-El]

Here you go! I cooked in NisseDILLIGAF and rotastrain's new panoramic background for Manila 2.1 by yozgatg that was tweaked by mwalt2 (you guys are all awesome! Still working on the icons for the new shellres.192.dll in the taskbar so ignore those! :p

[kidoucorp]

Could someone make a good report of 23028 :) ?

- Running TF3D2 of not ?
- Problems encountered (For example, are the Volume Keys still acting like up-down instead of changing the volume, or SMS issue (could not write new SMS/Email ?)
- Improvements since 23025 ?

Would be nice for people like me who can't test it until tonight :D

Thanks in advance ;)

[texture]

@spacejam:

What's incomplete about it?

23022-0410 lang has a small parts in english and not in italian,but the modules and others parts works better...

[X1iser]

For other langs.. same as before.. if u have a problem tell me and I will try and get them out. It's alot of work to do every time, if its not needed :)

I have a problem with 040C DPI192 480x800. Since 23025 I have only today screen and the start menu not work.
I cook in WWE and all work fine so I conclud the problem is local.

So stupid sorry dont upload anything...

[daguerrotipo]

oks....Sensor working jejeje.
I don't get it with manila... I don't know why, is not for the release happen me with alls.¿?¿?
thanks

[drkfngthdragnlrd]

Fix for Backgrounds of Titanium/Start menu in 6.5.1 Builds. Double the Top="-#" for the background in the Titanium/StartMenu_Global CPR's. Example = Top="-52" for QVGA. This will fix the alignment of the background image with the transparent Task/SoftKey Bars.

[benko286]

still cannot get lock working, tried enabling bronze, bronzenonea, commonnonea and browsingie, but still same.....

and if anybody know reg key for regional settings...

[depakjan]

i am trying to cook a ROM using this build.. can i just download em and use it?? .. it has QVGA files already?.... has any1 ported these files to elfin yet.. if so can some share this please??

[dan-htc-touch]

顶起，希望 更加完善！:p

I agree, nice work da_g

hmm, 60000 same number other dude had earlier

Memory Map...
SLOT 0: 0x02000000 - 0x01660000 (END: 0x00060000, 56 MODULES)
0x02000000 - 0x01fc0000 - ROM 0
0x01f80000 - 0x01e00000 - ROM 1
SLOT 1: 0x04000000 - 0x02020000 (END: 0x02020000, 292 MODULES)
RAM IMAGE: 0x80000000 - 0x803a7250
RAM: 0x803a8000 - 0x80423000 - Used for kernel modules
0x80423000 - 0x83400000 - 47 MB free
... done!

[smaury]

Fix for Backgrounds of Titanium/LockScreen/Start menu in 6.5.1 Builds. Double the Top="-#" for the background in the Titanium/LS_Global/StartMenu_Global CPR's. Example = Top="-52" for QVGA. This will fix the alignment of the background image with the transparent Task/SoftKey Bars.

For WQVGA what value I have to put??

THANKS for the TIP!

[drkfngthdragnlrd]

For WQVGA what value I have to put??

THANKS for the TIP!

Same Value, skip the Lockscreen Global, It's not needed.

[drkfngthdragnlrd]

still cannot get lock working, tried enabling bronze, bronzenonea, commonnonea and browsingie, but still same.....

and if anybody know reg key for regional settings...

It either either the Ink... or Media Player parts of the Lockscreen CPR. Testing as I type this.

[hellonasty]

Any body have the clock hidden?

Any Register?


Phone Dialer without scroll. My dialer have a window with scroll... i like full screen!!!!



Thanks

[bassam]

Fix for Backgrounds of Titanium/Start menu in 6.5.1 Builds. Double the Top="-#" for the background in the Titanium/StartMenu_Global CPR's. Example = Top="-52" for QVGA. This will fix the alignment of the background image with the transparent Task/SoftKey Bars.

Hi, my experience with Xperia X1 I disabled the clear type font then alignment worked with me !!!

[Cal-El]

Any body have the clock hidden?

Any Register?


Phone Dialer without scroll. My dialer have a window with scroll... i like full screen!!!!



Thanks If you go to HKCU\Software\Microsoft\shell and change the value of analog clock to 1 it will put the analog circle clock in the corner, as for the dialer I am working an that, the softkey is bigger (70 pixles) so it effects the dialer and some other screens! :)
EDIT: Nevermind, worked on the other builds now it covers your battery icon!

[drkfngthdragnlrd]

LockScreen not working is due to the new features. they are NOT fully implemented. Remove any new code such as the PaneView tags, The Media player Section & InkScene or what ever from your CPR's or just use an old style Lockscreen Mod found on the Forums..

[Alan-B]

the whole menu is moved up, how to fix this?

Hi,
Problem is StartMenu_GridScene_!!!x!!!.cpr
'<StartMenu_GridScene ID="Scene">

<GridView ID="Start Menu Items List" Top="0" Left="0" ..........................

Modifi TOP="52"

[hellonasty]

If you go to HKCU\Software\Microsoft\shell and change the value of analog clock to 1 it will put the analog circle clock in the corner, as for the dialer I am working an that, the softkey is bigger (70 pixles) so it effects the dialer and some other screens! :)
EDIT: Nevermind, worked on the other builds now it covers your battery icon!

Thanks!! I try late!!!!

[benko286]

LockScreen not working is due to the new features. they are NOT fully implemented. Remove any new code such as the PaneView tags, The Media player Section & InkScene or what ever from your CPR's or just use an old style Lockscreen Mod found on the Forums..
i am using 23016 build....

and i have no idea how to Remove any new code such as the PaneView tags, The Media player Section & InkScene or what ever from your CPR's :(

[fido_ms]

Da_G, first of all, thanks for your effort

i'm trying to download the universal native kernel to test it in my elf, but the link doesn't works. Can you upload again??

thanks!!

[TAEL]

Here is mine. 23028 Works fine and smoother.
Thanks Da_G!

http://i.iimmgg.com/images/th/2acf1a73b39af3568f8f6ac03c73ff34.jpg (http://tael.iimmgg.com/image/73f3dcf840193ded0c088f42fe3e1c0e) http://i.iimmgg.com/images/th/69e723a18933b85e1d796d1e63a8b382.jpg (http://tael.iimmgg.com/image/7abdb006331dbf55ff06f439ce5a8ba8) http://i.iimmgg.com/images/th/152bbfaad654c748ea66253767e7ebe8.jpg (http://tael.iimmgg.com/image/b403e5bfdf911625a217070273b35da7)

[dddrko]

Here is mine. 23028 Works fine and smoother.
Thanks Da_G!

http://i.iimmgg.com/images/th/2acf1a73b39af3568f8f6ac03c73ff34.jpg (http://tael.iimmgg.com/image/73f3dcf840193ded0c088f42fe3e1c0e) http://i.iimmgg.com/images/th/69e723a18933b85e1d796d1e63a8b382.jpg (http://tael.iimmgg.com/image/7abdb006331dbf55ff06f439ce5a8ba8) http://i.iimmgg.com/images/th/152bbfaad654c748ea66253767e7ebe8.jpg (http://tael.iimmgg.com/image/b403e5bfdf911625a217070273b35da7)

TAEL, can you share you're theme, it's GREAT!

[TAEL]

TAEL, can you share you're theme, it's GREAT!
Theme is created by one of my best friends, Shadowline.

You can find it on his thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=526618

[dddrko]

Theme is created by one of my best friends, Shadowline.

You can find it on his thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=526618

Thank you so much, but what about square OK/X button? How did you manage it?

[TAEL]

Thank you so much, but what about square OK/X button? How did you manage it?
Download this (http://www.rocknrollcoffeehouse.com/shadowline/WMBlackButtons.zip) and cook it in your SYS .

[evertec]

I'm at the end of my rope figuring out what else to recmod without slowing it down... I've done everything I've seen suggested in here but I still need to free up some slot 0 space because I still get memory errors in some games. My memory for slot 0 is as follows:

SLOT 0: 0x02000000 - 0x01670000 (END: 0x00060000, 52 MODULES)
0x02000000 - 0x01fe0000 - ROM 0
0x01fa0000 - 0x01d20000 - ROM 1

So, around 22MB free.
Any more ideas?

[twopumpchump]

loaded it on my fuze and yeah its more stable than the last couple of builds seems like. the volume keys on the fuze dont do volume still, and for some reason its not showing any battery or clock, ect on the task bar drop down menu.

[joojoobee666]

help!!

i have this erros? i need to install a diferent net cf? which one? help please

http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=216128&stc=1&d=1250223916 http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=216129&stc=1&d=1250223916

Replacing the GAC_Microsoft.WindowsMobile_v1_0_0_0_cneutral_1.dl l under BaseApps from an older build (i.e. 23016 or 23017), and if that doesn't fix it, replace ALL the GAC_*.* files in that folder from an older build.

[Montecristo]

Replacing the GAC_Microsoft.WindowsMobile_v1_0_0_0_cneutral_1.dl l under BaseApps from an older build (i.e. 23016 or 23017), and if that doesn't fix it, replace ALL the GAC_*.* files in that folder from an older build.



Someone can upload these files?

[joojoobee666]

Someone can upload these files?

Here, this is all the files. Replacing just the one I mentioned wasn't enough (just tried) but replacing all of them works.

[joojoobee666]

Are the 23025 96DPI still good for the 23028 build?

[dddrko]

Download this (http://www.rocknrollcoffeehouse.com/shadowline/WMBlackButtons.zip) and cook it in your SYS .

Thank you a lot pal. This is my WQVGA screen

[Nixeus]

Theme is created by one of my best friends, Shadowline.

You can find it on his thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=526618


Yeah this theme is sooo great and beautiful !!
Unforunately, not in QVGA :(

[twopumpchump]

Are the 23025 96DPI still good for the 23028 build?

he posted the 23028 all dpi files on first post :)

[bga7x]

he posted the 23028 all dpi files on first post :)

can someone mirror for the DPI files

[Montecristo]

Are the 23025 96DPI still good for the 23028 build?

No, some icons not found.

http://www.actors.com.ar/pda/26.jpg

[stouph52]

hi every body
the link 6.5 native kernel universal are broken
someome have a link
thanks in advance

[Nixeus]

And a native wm6.5 kernel for ELF:)

[+ Que PPC]

Come on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GUYS!!!!!! how do you gonna use the native Kernel from Universal into your ELF!!!!??????

The same thing do I need to repeat this? No more native kernels...

WOW... yes as many people say here... the 23025 has different resources about the 23028 cause i dont have icons in titlebar... :p I went to sleep and now i wake up with the new dpi files... jejeje... Thanks Guys... :cool:

[Alexx~]

Lang/DPI - 21939_0409_All_DPI_All_RES (http://rapidshare.com/files/267334738/21939_0409_All_DPI_All_RESV.7z)
SYS/MSXIPKernel - 21939_MSXIPKernel_SYS_No_Lang_dpi_192_resh_480_res v_640 (http://rapidshare.com/files/267338793/21939_MSXIPKernel_SYS_No_Lang_dpi_192_resh_480_res v_640.7z)

Thanks monkeybape from xbeta

[dcd1182]

21939

looks like 5.2.3875 from Aug 2 2009 :)

[TAEL]

Lang/DPI - 21939_0409_All_DPI_All_RES (http://rapidshare.com/files/267334738/21939_0409_All_DPI_All_RESV.7z)
SYS/MSXIPKernel - 21939_MSXIPKernel_SYS_No_Lang_dpi_192_resh_480_res v_640 (http://rapidshare.com/files/267338793/21939_MSXIPKernel_SYS_No_Lang_dpi_192_resh_480_res v_640.7z)

Thanks monkeybape from xbeta
Any screenshots? Changes?

[joojoobee666]

Nice, apparently we need ALL new customized task bar icons so they work in the zoom. Anyone else using customized icons that bring up a blank zoomed task bar?

[RideTheTube]

Hey guys,

i cannot remember to fix this black upper issue for wvga :confused:?
thx for help

http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/k2nfdcn/thumb/Screen01.jpg (http://img5.imagebanana.com/view/k2nfdcn/Screen01.jpg)

[Cal-El]

Nice, apparently we need ALL new customized task bar icons so they work in the zoom. Anyone else using customized icons that bring up a blank zoomed task bar? I was but i moddified the images in my shellres.192.dll and took the shellres.192.dll folder out of my icon package and:) its working now! :)

[dddrko]

I was but i moddified the images in my shellres.192.dll and took the shellres.192.dll folder out of my icon package and:) its working now! :)

Speaking about this, when I click on clock I got power information, anybody know why?

BTW, does anybody have xip.bin for 21939?

[Cal-El]

Speaking about this, when I click on clock I got power information, anybody know why?

BTW, does anybody have xip.bin for 21939? Which clock, the titlebar clock?

[Alexx~]

http://rapidshare.com/files/267368212/xip.bin_21939.rar

[dddrko]

Which clock, the titlebar clock?

yes, when zoomed, clicking on clock doesn't give me appointment info but battery info

[+ Que PPC]

Nice, apparently we need ALL new customized task bar icons so they work in the zoom. Anyone else using customized icons that bring up a blank zoomed task bar?

What do you mean?
i can help you but im dpi_96 so maybe it dont works for you...

[CGCampbell]

Hey guys, I am on a Sprint Touch Pro and i was curious if does your volume keys work in these new builds i havent downloaded 23028 to see if its been fixed, but in 23025 the actual volume keys do not work just wondering if anyone would know a solution to this

[SOHKis]

anyone having an issue w/programs not closing?

they seem to minimize & remain open despite having the setting in the task manager checked to "end programs by tapping X"

[Mr. Makk]

Hey guys,

i cannot remember to fix this black upper issue for wvga :confused:?
thx for help

http://img5.imagebanana.com/img/k2nfdcn/thumb/Screen01.jpg (http://img5.imagebanana.com/view/k2nfdcn/Screen01.jpg)

its na an issue. its a skinned image in base dpi folder which the theme uses. just change that. dont remember the name but jus go there and you'll recognize it.

[TAEL]

anyone having an issue w/programs not closing?

they seem to minimize & remain open despite having the setting in the task manager checked to "end programs by tapping X"
It's because of changing X/OK button location. It'll fix on Task Manager next releases. ("They said we are waiting for a stable build, so we'll update our program." , Da_G said)

[Cal-El]

Hey guys, I am on a Sprint Touch Pro and i was curious if does your volume keys work in these new builds i havent downloaded 23028 to see if its been fixed, but in 23025 the actual volume keys do not work just wondering if anyone would know a solution to this Its normal for our phones in the new builds, with the new titlebar zoom list you have to push up on volume button the hit the volume icon to open volume screen then you can adjust with the volume button, looking for a work around for this, I will post anything I find out! :)

[+ Que PPC]

Hey guys, I am on a Sprint Touch Pro and i was curious if does your volume keys work in these new builds i havent downloaded 23028 to see if its been fixed, but in 23025 the actual volume keys do not work just wondering if anyone would know a solution to this

Issue since first build... dont you read?? hehe :p

anyone having an issue w/programs not closing?

they seem to minimize & remain open despite having the setting in the task manager checked to "end programs by tapping X"

WOW... nice thanks ;) gigi

Lets check the clock... and titanium plugins.

[joojoobee666]

I was but i moddified the images in my shellres.192.dll and took the shellres.192.dll folder out of my icon package and:) its working now! :)

What modifications did you make?

Hey guys, I am on a Sprint Touch Pro and i was curious if does your volume keys work in these new builds i havent downloaded 23028 to see if its been fixed, but in 23025 the actual volume keys do not work just wondering if anyone would know a solution to this

No, the up arrow opens the task bar zoom now...YAY!!! ....not...:(

So yeah, anyone got a fix?

[Cal-El]

What modifications did you make?



No, the up arrow opens the task bar zoom now...YAY!!! ....not...:(

So yeah, anyone got a fix?Just to the icons that were different from the dll in the new sys folder! Here is my moddfied dll, you can open it with resource tunner and look at the icons and change them out if you want! The icons I used are from Brians taskbar 2! :)

[jmckeejr]

Lang/DPI - 21939_0409_All_DPI_All_RES (http://rapidshare.com/files/267334738/21939_0409_All_DPI_All_RESV.7z)
SYS/MSXIPKernel - 21939_MSXIPKernel_SYS_No_Lang_dpi_192_resh_480_res v_640 (http://rapidshare.com/files/267338793/21939_MSXIPKernel_SYS_No_Lang_dpi_192_resh_480_res v_640.7z)

Thanks monkeybape from xbeta
Thanks you sir
I was but i moddified the images in my shellres.192.dll and took the shellres.192.dll folder out of my icon package and:) its working now! :)
Would you want to share your dll since looks like you have same theme as me?(except what happened to start icon)
EDIT: Posted at same time lol
Hey guys, I am on a Sprint Touch Pro and i was curious if does your volume keys work in these new builds i havent downloaded 23028 to see if its been fixed, but in 23025 the actual volume keys do not work just wondering if anyone would know a solution to this

Maybe AEButton plus? I really hope something happens with this. 3 builds now with same problem. Maybe M$ intentionally making it so?

[Cal-El]

Thanks you sir

Would you want to share your dll since looks like you have same theme as me?(except what happened to start icon)
EDIT: Posted at same time lol


Maybe AEButton plus? I really hope something happens with this. 3 builds now with same problem. Maybe M$ intentionally making it so? Not sure didnt realy look for it lol, it was 4 in the morning and I just wanted to fix my taskbar, I will look now and post my dll and moddified cab for taskbar for you! :)

[Cal-El]

Fixed it! Here you go, let me know if you need the cab, all you should need is the shellres.192.dll though! I have converted it to oem for you as well to just drop it into your SYS folder! :)

[mwcostello]

Fixed it! Here you go, let me know if you need the cab, all you should need is the shellres.192.dll though! I have converted it to oem for you as well to just drop it into your SYS folder! :)

Please post the cab as well. Thanks:)

[Cal-El]

Please post the cab as well. Thanks:)
Here you go! :) cab is in the zip file and I replaced the shellres.192.dll so all you need to do is install the cab! (hope 192 is your res) If not let me know I will fix it for you! :)

[megapinky]

Here you go! :) cab is in the zip file and I replaced the shellres.192.dll so all you need to do is install the cab! (hope 192 is your res) If not let me know I will fix it for you! :)

do you have qvga?

[Cal-El]

do you have qvga? No,but I can make it for you! Give me a little bit and I will post it! :)
Edit: I am sorry, turns out I cannot replace the icons in the shelres.96.dpi with the icons I have, they are a different color depth and resolution! Do you have any icons you use now that you can upload for me to help you out? Let me know!

[da_reeseboy]

Its normal for our phones in the new builds, with the new titlebar zoom list you have to push up on volume button the hit the volume icon to open volume screen then you can adjust with the volume button, looking for a work around for this, I will post anything I find out! :)

I am using Marc Landis' SetVolume and the volume buttons work great.

[jmckeejr]

I am using Marc Landis' SetVolume and the volume buttons work great.

Got a link for everyone else?

[dcd1182]

I really hope something happens with this. 3 builds now with same problem. Maybe M$ intentionally making it so?

I believe that is the case - if you compare all rgu between 23016 and 23022, none of the registry differences are causing the change. it has to be a binary change somewhere.

also, if you use a key remap app like raphkbdconfig (or AEBplus i would assume) , you can map anything you want to "volume up" or "volume down" functions and it will bring up the titlebarlist.