TF3D ROM for Kaiser? (Collecting Bounty act. 35€)

[Maeffjus]

Hey Guys,

I know that this has been discussed a hundred times :-).
But let me at first explain:

This goes out to all you chefs which are cooking the roms (I'm not capable to cook one by myself)
So what I would like to have is a Kaiser ROM with a working Touchflo3d.
I've read and searched for hours and hours and found the rom from L26, but I think this had been an really early state. Now the drivers have changed and improved.

So is there anyone out there who is able to cook a rom (no matter if 6.1 or 6.5) with working TF3D and drivers?
I found out that there is a working version in this tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465507
But it was not working with my rom (M-Opal 1.0) due to cooked M2D.

So it would give hmm a bounty of 35€ (€ not dollars) if anyone would prepare a working, fast rom with TF3D.
And I am also sure that there will be a lot of other useres who would love it.

Best regards,
Matthias

[denco7]

And I am also sure that there will be a lot of other useres who would love it.


Not me ...........................:)





That being said, here is the latest.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=458116

[msd24200]

Hey Guys,

I know that this has been discussed a hundred times :-).
But let me at first explain:

This goes out to all you chefs which are cooking the roms (I'm not capable to cook one by myself)
So what I would like to have is a Kaiser ROM with a working Touchflo3d.
I've read and searched for hours and hours and found the rom from L26, but I think this had been an really early state. Now the drivers have changed and improved.

So is there anyone out there who is able to cook a rom (no matter if 6.1 or 6.5) with working TF3D and drivers?
I found out that there is a working version in this tread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465507
But it was not working with my rom (M-Opal 1.0) due to cooked M2D.

So it would give hmm a bounty of 35€ (€ not dollars) if anyone would prepare a working, fast rom with TF3D.
And I am also sure that there will be a lot of other useres who would love it.

Best regards,
Matthias

there are already tf3d roms and if your looking for one that will work flawlessly on our kaisers, not gonna happen.

[Hyden121]

Leo (L26) made a decent rom L26_KaiserTouch_V4_M3D that actually encompasses TF3d. I have not tried the others but I do love his rom even though it is not as smooth.

[soulbandaid]

I wonder how it will work with 6.5 drivers. I'm going to take a shot at cooking it into josh's rom for you. We'll see how this goes.

[Maeffjus]

Why should there be no interest in TF3D on a Kaiser? (@denco)
Because I've seen a lot of videos on Youtube where it is running smooth and it also seems nearly bugless.
Like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPf_gjMFBHs
or these one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDduRgWFweM&feature=related

What I want to fullfil my bounty should be:

1. Running TF3D
2. OpenGl-Drivers integrated in ROM (I think it is necessary to use TF3D)
3. The Standby bugfix should be integrated, which is located under the link in my first post.
4. Look and Feel like on the Videos (not any kind of "Tiger" or strange "Tribal" as system theme)

Optional but highly welcome: German Language :-)
Or is it possible to install some kind of language pack? (I'm using WM since hmm 6 or 7 years but I've never seen such a thing)

I've tried the L26 ROM and it was not satifying to me because the speed was really low compared to the TF3D's on the youtube videos and it seemed very buggy.
If I'm not completely wrong, the version of TF3D from my first post is in an advanced state compared with the on from L26.

Thanks in Advance!
Would be nice to find some people who will help to increase the bounty!

[stylez]

Why should there be no interest in TF3D on a Kaiser? (@denco)
Because I've seen a lot of videos on Youtube where it is running smooth and it also seems nearly bugless.
Like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPf_gjMFBHs
or these one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDduRgWFweM&feature=related

What I want to fullfil my bounty should be:

1. Running TF3D
2. OpenGl-Drivers integrated in ROM (I think it is necessary to use TF3D)
3. The Standby bugfix should be integrated, which is located under the link in my first post.
4. Look and Feel like on the Videos (not any kind of "Tiger" or strange "Tribal" as system theme)

Optional but highly welcome: German Language :-)
Or is it possible to install some kind of language pack? (I'm using WM since hmm 6 or 7 years but I've never seen such a thing)

I've tried the L26 ROM and it was not satifying to me because the speed was really low compared to the TF3D's on the youtube videos and it seemed very buggy.
If I'm not completely wrong, the version of TF3D from my first post is in an advanced state compared with the on from L26.

Thanks in Advance!
Would be nice to find some people who will help to increase the bounty!

Yes it can run smoothely'ish the problem encountered is lack of driver to be able to sleep device in the correct manor.

[Maeffjus]

But there is a patch to solve that kind of problem or am I wrong?

Q: Whenever I try and put the device into sleep mode, it powers off instead?
A: Try disabling the today time-out. Also, make sure you installed the standby CAB right.
Taken from the Linked TF3D thread...

[stylez]

But there is a patch to solve that kind of problem or am I wrong?


Taken from the Linked TF3D thread...

No there are work arounds but no real fix ;)

[RxenDrav]

Im still TF3D fan, but after many bug and slow on my Kaiser, i have to move on.. if somebody create or develop ROM with it, i will give a try..;)

[jonezis]

With that standby fix Touchflo3d is disabled automatically before sleep mode. Biggest problem for me was that when the device wakes up it needs to launch touchflo again and that process was kinda slow. Sometimes it just get stuck and needed softreset.

Still, I would be curious to see how smooth tf3d would be cooked in with newest builds and drivers...Also, if I remember right 3d drivers won't work if you have super ram hack in your rom.

[Maeffjus]

Whatever ;-) ...
Also, if I remember right 3d drivers won't work if you have super ram hack in your rom.
I don't mind if there is a super-ram-hack or what else, in my opinion it should WORK :-)

Also I think that all of you shall take a look in your money-bag if there is a possibility to make it a little more lucrative to work on such a rom.

As I also stated out that I will pay my full bounty only if it is able to run on latetest state of development - that means not that the chef has to develop touchflo3d once again but without bugs ;-) it means only that it should be able to run as good as possible at the moment.

But as I read yesterday evening, I saw that there are maybe two possibilities to get rid of the standby bug, but - forgive me - if did not looked detailed at these solutions - so I don't know how these work but maybe one of them is working better?

And when I'm right - all the roms with TF3D cooked in are with an earlier driver-version. The younger versions of the driver have improved, if I understood the development news made in the dev. and hack. section.
The TF3D-cooked-in-rom-threads are nearly all dated arround december '08 - and I read a lot of them :-)

[denco7]

Why should there be no interest in TF3D on a Kaiser? (@denco)


I am not saying that if you posted a working TF3d rom that no one would flash it, I would. But what is the effort /reward ?

What about it would make it better than my M2D rom ? Or anyone's 6.5 rom.

Enough great chefs put more than enough time into it, and could not get adequate drivers to make it smooth enough to keep as an everyday rom nor could they get by the stand by problem.

TF3D is M2D with some nice 3D touches that is all, am I missing something ? Is it head and shoulders above M2D or Neo Titanium, I don't think so. Which is why no one really cares to put in all the effort to make it work , nor is anyone really willing to spend any funds to make it work.

I am not being a contrarian or a nay sayer just for arguement sake, really :) With M$ coming out with cHome and Titanium, SPB out with MS 3, HTC coming out with Sense, there is a reason why people took porting TF3D as far as they could and then lost interest.

[Maeffjus]

O.K. 0,5 Points for you :)

But I think that Sense is only for Andoid? Correct me if I'm doing wrong...

My problem is, that my Kaiser (and i think all others too) have not such a good touch screen accuracy... mine is terrible.
(yes, I cleaned out the frame and the edges...but on my bosses Kaiser the screen accuracy is also bad! - Compared to my - slow but accurate - P4350).

In my opinion the touchflo concept is one of the best solutions ever developed. But for me in person TF3D would be a nice looking (and little improved) upgrade. I'm already using M2D and I like it, but what I also like very much is for example the animated weather and the improved look and feel.
I have also tried 6.5 but with the terrible accuracy of my screen it is not so funny to use.. also it is not running such smooth as M2D and I in person think titanium is not everyones favourite choice. What i also do not like is the Honeycomb-Style... looks nice, but thats all.. O.k. the kinetic scrolling is good and thats one thing I like :). But thats the only improvement I could see at WM6.5.

So whats your opinion: Is a rom with newest drivers and so on not for everydays use capable due to a lot of buggy functions? (I dont't know - I never used one ;)).

[ai6908]

If I remember right, all the legendary cooks have tired TF3D and it doesnt work as it is supposed in Kaiser. Kaiser is just not made for TF3D. TF3D is more resource hungry, and our device just cant handle it.

I do believe there is a cab for TF3D available! Take a good lite 6.5 ROM with memory hack, and load it with TF3D, you will see if it will be able to handle it or not.

[smokestack76]

I had it working kinda decent with 6.5...just kept throwing drivers at it until i found a decent setup. But i was just wanting to see how it would be like you. When i get home i will look if i still have the file and send it to you. I cant even remember what all i had with it though lol. But like everyone has said its still slow with the newest drivers and such.

[smokestack76]

I cant find the file....but i will work on it this weekend. :rolleyes:

[ai6908]

Here is one that I had downloaded when the TF3D thread (http://www.4shared.com/file/123403952/a5dfeaad/TF3D-QVGA.html) was alive. This does not have standby in it. So if you want to turn off your phone, then you need to find a stanby fix by somebody!

[Maeffjus]

Hmm in my first post is another source for the TF3D, which has bigger files - there you'll find also the Audio Manager etc.

[Maeffjus]

Has this thread died :(?

[xxbabiboi228xx]

Since TF3D has the shutdown issue i recommend people to try out the android Hero Sense UI no shutdown issues and 20 times better looking than
TF3D no shutdown issue you dont have 2 use a open gles driver its built into the system.img clock flips like in TF3D and tons of widgets you will be happy i promise.

[SlashSpeed]

Since TF3D has the shutdown issue i recommend people to try out the android Hero Sense UI no shutdown issues and 20 times better looking than
TF3D no shutdown issue you dont have 2 use a open gles driver its built into the system.img clock flips like in TF3D and tons of widgets you will be happy i promise.

I tried it. It's really awesome and i was thinking. Is it possible to port Sense UI to Windows Mobile?

[Maeffjus]

So am I understanding right that it is available for windows mobile..? Or are you still working to use it?

[cd993]

So am I understanding right that it is available for windows mobile..? Or are you still working to use it?

hi, i thought id join the discussion as i am interested in the HTC Sense UI for windows mobile. It is available but seems slow (or atleast this build does):

http://www.redmondpie.com/android-powered-htc-sense-ui-on-windows-phone/

I haven't tried it yet on my Kaiser but tempted too.....

[Maeffjus]

hi, i thought id join the discussion as i am interested in the HTC Sense UI for windows mobile. It is available but seems slow (or atleast this build does):

http://www.redmondpie.com/android-po...windows-phone/

I haven't tried it yet on my Kaiser but tempted too.....

Nope, I think you missunderstood what is shown in the video..
The Phone in the video has additional loaded Android onto it.
It is not the normal operating system on the phone - the phone is running WM 6.5.

Due to this I think sense has not been ported to WM.

[cd993]

Nope, I think you missunderstood what is shown in the video..
The Phone in the video has additional loaded Android onto it.
It is not the normal operating system on the phone - the phone is running WM 6.5.

Due to this I think sense has not been ported to WM.

yeah i stand corrected, your right there! I tried it out and it does as you say run on top of wm and for the record, is sloooooooow

[Maeffjus]

So, I also tried it, it is a ROM-Image - which is loaded with a bootloader. That means windows is shut down and Linux is loaded. I also think it is very slow. And additional, a lot of important functions do not work (I was able to call but my mic was not working als as the speakerphone...