please close thread

[mssmison]

Development has been integrated with the new rootfs.
Please see the thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584707

New version coming soon:
Version 2.3 info:
-Newer simplified setup, whether you use a partition or not you will use the same files;
- fixed copying issues that were stopping some Donut builds from working. All builds should now work file.
-there are no additional files unlike previous builds.
- support for a data partition as well.
- supports all phones that the rootfs is supporting, kaiser vogue diamond etc.


Version 2.2 info;
updated for better data file backup naming.
updated to support donut
updated to support wifi (thanks enate for this)


Version 2 info;
On boot it will prompt you to boot the new recovery image, if you press a key it will load the recovery image, (the first boot you must do this to install the system) if not it will boot as normal.
If you have a system.sqsh on your sd card it will prompt you to install to your ext2 partition
- after installing the system it will move it to /sdcard/installedsystem/installedsystem.sqsh
- it will move your data file to /sdcard/datafilebackup/data$date
and create a new one. After the inital boot you can reboot and copy back your data file again.

There is one caveat that was pointed out to me today. Do not change systems twice in one day unless you don't care about your data. Because it creates the data file based on date it will overwright the old one.
Why not data to? Well our current data.img solution is awesome for backing it up.


What's coming;
Native support for update.zip's from the dream themes forum.
Menu support with several different usefull options for setting up android (this is proving to be tough but I'm working on it)

here it is!

http://code.google.com/p/vogue-android/downloads/detail?name=recoverfiles2.2.rar&can=2&q=#makechanges

[jamezelle]

Hey guys, I've got something new coming for vogue android, I need 2 people with VOGUES's only to test something for me.

Requirements; linux install, vogue only, be able to provide bug reports, be serious!

pm me; I'm hoping to have testing ready by the end of the day.

sure

have linux and vogue pmed you. dang, guess i didnt pm you in time...

[Shidell]

I don't know what this is, but you've sure got me curious as hell.

If you need another tester, let me know.

[stickus]

Well looks like I'm not in the closed beta, but I'm looking forward to this with great excitement. With the loss of Zen, it's good to have you back and active on this stuff again. This wouldn't happen to be Android running natively on our little wonder-units would it? :D

[ajclai08]

Well looks like I'm not in the closed beta, but I'm looking forward to this with great excitement. With the loss of Zen, it's good to have you back and active on this stuff again. This wouldn't happen to be Android running natively on our little wonder-units would it? :D

Technically, Android doesnt run "native" on any device. You don't have to port a device to android..just the linux kernel to get api's to work. I know your refering to booting android on our faster but much smaller enternal flash but the speed difference would be minimal and we would be confinded to smaller builds. I think it has to do with a memory limitation in android from the dalvik vm it uses. I'm not 100% sure on what im talking about but this is the impression ive had for android for a while. Please enlighten me if I have missed something..

[enatefox]

posting in epic thread

[mssmison]

Well looks like I'm not in the closed beta, but I'm looking forward to this with great excitement. With the loss of Zen, it's good to have you back and active on this stuff again. This wouldn't happen to be Android running natively on our little wonder-units would it? :D

It's been stated before and I'll state it again, the speed of the nand (internal memory) on the vogue is very slow. Making android boot from the nand would be a step backwards... What I'm hoping I've got it a step forwards

[Shidell]

It's been stated before and I'll state it again, the speed of the nand (internal memory) on the vogue is very slow. Making android boot from the nand would be a step backwards... What I'm hoping I've got it a step forwards

Interesting.

I really don't understand why the internal NAND is so slow. Windows Mobile runs just fine from NAND, so why would running Android from it be any different?

Alternatively, it seems that a flashable Android would be much more convenient, and permanent.

I'm very curious to know what you're working on, mssmison.

[ajclai08]

Interesting.

I really don't understand why the internal NAND is so slow. Windows Mobile runs just fine from NAND, so why would running Android from it be any different?

Alternatively, it seems that a flashable Android would be much more convenient, and permanent.

I'm very curious to know what you're working on, mssmison.

Duel booting would a better option in my opinion..wm is just a better mini PC OS(Windows) and Android is a better phone/internet OS . This makes our devices even more versitle then phones just running android. I dont get how just having android would makes things better..since we just manually boot android instead of it booting once the phones is turned on...how about a linux bootloader that launches before wm does..and a graphical UI to choose from the two OS's

[Shidell]

Duel booting would a better option in my opinion..wm is just a better mini PC OS(Windows) and Android is a better phone/internet OS . This makes our devices even more versitle then phones just running android. I dont get how just having android would makes things better..since we just manually boot android instead of it booting once the phones is turned on...how about a linux bootloader that launches before wm does..and a graphical UI to choose from the two OS's

My understanding is that there isn't enough room to dual-boot both WinMo and Android from the NAND on the Vogue.

You could possibly put the bootloader in NAND and run WinMo and Android from storage, but that sorta defeats the purpose.

[TheKartus]

It's been stated before and I'll state it again, the speed of the nand (internal memory) on the vogue is very slow. Making android boot from the nand would be a step backwards... What I'm hoping I've got it a step forwards

Sounds delicious.

[Freezell]

Well this sounds cool, Nice to see that you are back......CANT WAIT......
:cool:





:pDROID FOR LIFE:p

[mssmison]

Well this sounds cool, Nice to see that you are back......CANT WAIT......
:cool:

:pDROID FOR LIFE:p

I never left.. I was just working in the background :)

[bug666]

what's the harm in saying what's being worked on?

[TheKartus]

what's the harm in saying what's being worked on?

Suspense is just too much fun....?

[mssmison]

If all goes well I should have something tomorrow night for everyone.

[bug666]

hintttttttttttt lol

[TheKartus]

If all goes well I should have something tomorrow night for everyone.

Is it gonna require serious work to do, like flashing a rom? Or still just files on an SDCard, just in a different way?

[jamezelle]

Is it gonna require serious work to do, like flashing a rom? Or still just files on an SDCard, just in a different way?

:D..............

[codybear]

lol, i've been working on stuff in the background too. haha.
but anyways, i was like wtf, this is a total bs thread, then i saw your name everywhere. haha. so i guess it's not.
good to see a vogue developer still around!!
I'm working on getting another one so I can mess with the vogue again. it's a fun phone.

[ruizit0]

hiihhiihi cant wait :D

[enatefox]

up to 3 pages in anticipation

[mssmison]

beta 2 is off to the testers. Depending on their reports I might release a public beta. Not to tease, I just want to cover my bases before releasing it. I hate things being released that don't work and cause more issues.

[masalma]

beta 2 is off to the testers. Depending on their reports I might release a public beta. Not to tease, I just want to cover my bases before releasing it. I hate things being released that don't work and cause more issues.

Cant wait, I hope it is as fast as the ion, I have tried every version out there, and nothing is as good as the ion in speed and stability. Been itching to try something that works good.

Keep up the good work.

[mssmison]

I am not releasing a build so you are out of luck. sorry, but I don't release builds anymore. This is more of a utility to increase performance.

[masalma]

I am not releasing a build so you are out of luck. sorry, but I don't release builds anymore. This is more of a utility to increase performance.

I am happy regardless, anything in the right direction is a good step.

I sent the vogue to vilord last week so he should be receiving it any day now.

[TheKartus]

I am not releasing a build so you are out of luck. sorry, but I don't release builds anymore. This is more of a utility to increase performance.

Release public beta please.

[myn]

X2. Whats the worst that can happen?

[TheKartus]

Maybe semi-public beta to people who won't just complain about how something doesn't work since they know its an early release? ;)

[KERKEDAGAIN]

X2. Whats the worst that can happen?

..people not so familiar with what a BETA really is will start posting mad questions/complaints if there is an issue. For that reason i've found the devs much prefer to get most things ironed out beforehand

[jamezelle]

..people not so familiar with what a BETA really is will start posting mad questions/complaints if there is an issue. For that reason i've found the devs much prefer to get most things ironed out beforehand

thats kinda the reason it isnt out yet. making sure it works overall is the most important thing

[myn]

..people not so familiar with what a BETA really is will start posting mad questions/complaints if there is an issue. For that reason i've found the devs much prefer to get most things ironed out beforehand

Most??

Every software development shop I've worked for employs the Release early, release often (http://www.useroverview.com/blog/2008/04/release-early-release-often-google.html) protocol.

;)

[aescobar]

hello yalll

[mssmison]

Most??

Every software development shop I've worked for employs the Release early, release often (http://www.useroverview.com/blog/2008/04/release-early-release-often-google.html) protocol.

;)

yeah well I aint any software dev shop you've worked for. I have testers helping me test the utility. If you don't like waiting tough beans.

[plemen]

yeah well I aint any software dev shop you've worked for. I have testers helping me test the utility. If you don't like waiting tough beans.

If you need any more testers I would be happy to help.

[mssmison]

it's out check the first post.

[jamezelle]

it's out check the first post.

]cool man

[TheKartus]

How much faster does this make things? Any significant difference between the speed with the old style and this with Hero builds?

[jamezelle]

How much faster does this make things? Any significant difference between the speed with the old style and this with Hero builds?

dude its worth it enjoy:)

[TheKartus]

dude its worth it enjoy:)

I'm gonna set it up. I try out everything that shows up here form mssmision... :)

I was just wondering from someone who has done it, or one of the testers how much faster it really is. Gives me something to look forward to when I do it tomorrow.

[jamezelle]

I'm gonna set it up. I try out everything that shows up here form mssmision... :)

I was just wondering from someone who has done it, or one of the testers how much faster it really is. Gives me something to look forward to when I do it tomorrow.

i was a tester and i find it faster on my builds as well as others! im sure you won't regret it

[TheKartus]

Silly question: What is a good, free formatting program for mac os. Or can I setup multiple partitions through the disk utility. I know I can reformat the card, but I never looked if I can divide it up.

[tallnerd1985]

Here is a nifty guide I came across for all us users that dont dual boot linux with our Windows OS. Follow the directions at the link to partition your card with both Fat32 and Ext2.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=512873

[OleJuice]

This sounds awesome:)...can't wait to try it.

Thanks,
Best Regards
Justin

[mrkite38]

Thanks, tallnerd... I would also recommend using a GPartEd live cd. Free and open source! :) But you'd need a way to connect the card directly via USB instead of through the phone.

[aven_soulgazer]

I can't use GPartED live because I'm on a HP laptop that they say not to use it on. I run Fedora Core 11. The only way that my laptop can see my phone is if I have my phone ready for tethering. Otherwise I never get a filesystem pop up. I always end up having to boot windows to put new files onto my phone.

[mssmison]

You can either use a micro sd adapter or boot your phone to windows and connect it to the computer with usb. Your phone should not be in android when you are partitioning it.

[TheKartus]

Nevermind, I figured it out. Anyone looking to do this on a mac:
1. google and download "Ext2FS_1.4d4.dmg"
2. Install it and restart
3. Go to partition your card in disk utility and you should have the option now of making one in ext2 format.
4. Have fun

[enatefox]

TheKartus, I've got Linux and the commands should be the same. Need some parted help?

[JeckyllHavok]

Testing with sqap now, should make no problemsdu to that the user.confs use the 3rd partition on sdcard for swap.....

But even without swap it feels mouch more responsive (tested on jamezelles v1.3)

[stickus]

Silly question: What is a good, free formatting program for mac os. Or can I setup multiple partitions through the disk utility. I know I can reformat the card, but I never looked if I can divide it up.

For those of us that live in a Windows free house, I would suggest using the gParted Live CD (http://gparted.sourceforge.net/) to partition for the ext2 bit. Then, I use a neat little tool that lets MacOS see ext2 partitions (http://sourceforge.net/projects/ext2fsx/) to play with it. Hope this helps :)

[stickus]

I'd finally had a chance to play with this after my D&D session last night... mssmision, you are the freakin' man. This is the greatest idea since running Android on the Vogue to begin with. I've tried it now with a few different builds and everything but the vanilla donut that zenulator upped works incredibly well (not sure why but it keeps looping at the Android screen. I'll have to double check my default.txt). Very fast, very smooth, I haven't seen a force close or wait message once. I'm running vilords "Still Evil" Ion bundle from August, it's so much faster I almost got whiplash from it :)

[KERKEDAGAIN]

so are the instructions in the first post used ONLY on first boot, or are we to do this each time we want the ext2 partition used?

[mssmison]

so are the instructions in the first post used ONLY on first boot, or are we to do this each time we want the ext2 partition used?

just first boot, after that it'll boot the partition like normal. if you ever want to update to a different build just copy over the system.sqsh to the sd and re-run the utility.

As for latest Donut not working, it's possible that the correct files aren't included in my rootfs.

[KERKEDAGAIN]

just first boot, after that it'll boot the partition like normal. if you ever want to update to a different build just copy over the system.sqsh to the sd and re-run the utility.

As for latest Donut not working, it's possible that the correct files aren't included in my rootfs.

ahhh...genius!!! it's probly too early to say, but i think even the phone rings quicker in Hero!! Job done madly well!

[stickus]

Ah, okay, good to know. Anyone else having Donut related issues with this? I've had no issues with any other build I've tried yet. This has made me grin like a Cheshire cat all morning :)

[enatefox]

I can look at Donut issues as I'll be toying with this later.

Mssmison, you can guarantee an unique backup filename with "echo $(uuidgen)"

[TheKartus]

Ah, okay, good to know. Anyone else having Donut related issues with this? I've had no issues with any other build I've tried yet. This has made me grin like a Cheshire cat all morning :)

I couldn't get donut to boot. Trying a hero build now. Having issues though.

[mssmison]

I'll put up a new build tonight that supports donut, sorry guys, I don't use donut so I hadn't updated the rootfs. It will also include all the wifi stuff from enatefox.

[bzo]

the nice thing about the sqsh filesystem is that it protects the SD card since it is a read only filesystem. Is there going to be an issue with writes wearing out the SD card using an ext2 filesystem?

I seem to remember issues in the early days of android on vogue when the SD card was accessed more directly, that they were prone to getting corrupted/destroyed, perhaps due to too many write cycles.

[enatefox]

You won't have any more writes to it normally than you do now. /data and / are rw and they get more written to them. ext2 doesn't really write a lot especially with the noatime flag. Even with ext3 it doesn't really impact life a whole lot. Generally /system is not touched by Android. Plus / and /system are mounted ro initially

[stickus]

I'll put up a new build tonight that supports donut, sorry guys, I don't use donut so I hadn't updated the rootfs. It will also include all the wifi stuff from enatefox.

Awesome. Looking forward to trying this with Donut tonight...

[mssmison]

the nice thing about the sqsh filesystem is that it protects the SD card since it is a read only filesystem. Is there going to be an issue with writes wearing out the SD card using an ext2 filesystem?

I seem to remember issues in the early days of android on vogue when the SD card was accessed more directly, that they were prone to getting corrupted/destroyed, perhaps due to too many write cycles.

it is mounted as ro, and was before squash when we used cramfs. squash was used for the size of downloading and it was reported to be a bit faster than cramfs. This is best of both, downloads are still squash so they're small and the system parition is ro.

[bzo]

mssmison and enatefox: thanks for the info guys

I wonder if using an uncompressed file loop device would provide much of the benefit of an actual partitioned ext2 filesystem? I use a lot of virtual machines on my computer, and the performance of virtual file systems, which are essentially uncompressed file loop devices, is surprisingly good. Maybe the best of both worlds: ease of use and good performance? But perhaps it is not comparable given the cpu/memory limitations of the vogue.

[mssmison]

mssmison and enatefox: thanks for the info guys

I wonder if using an uncompressed file loop device would provide much of the benefit of an actual partitioned ext2 filesystem? I use a lot of virtual machines on my computer, and the performance of virtual file systems, which are essentially uncompressed file loop devices, is surprisingly good. Maybe the best of both worlds: ease of use and good performance? But perhaps it is not comparable given the cpu/memory limitations of the vogue.

we've been able to use uncompressed loop devices for a while, the performace is good, though this is a little better I find.

[mssmison]

new version uploaded, supports donut, wifi and better data file naming. Thanks enatefox :)

[masalma]

sorry for a slightly stupid question.

regarding the first step :)

1. use your linux to partition your sd card to have a system ext2 partition, basically just make a 200MB ext2 parition on your card.

is it possible to use the linux emulator built into some of the releases to partition and format the microSD card while running android, or is there any other way to do it, by have the phone connected via a usb cable running windows mobile to format it, I don`t have a microSD card reader or adapter.

Cheers,

Nas

[stickus]

sorry for a slightly stupid question.

regarding the first step :)

1. use your linux to partition your sd card to have a system ext2 partition, basically just make a 200MB ext2 parition on your card.

is it possible to use the linux emulator built into some of the releases to partition and format the microSD card while running android, or is there any other way to do it, by have the phone connected via a usb cable running windows mobile to format it, I don`t have a microSD card reader or adapter.

Cheers,

Nas

Really your best bet is to use a Linux LiveCD... there are some tools for windows to manipulate/format ext2fs, but you'd be much happier with the LiveCD method. There are some links in the previous posts to get you pointed in the right direction.

[stickus]

Trying 2.2 with the G1 Donut from Zen. Here we go!

[SuperJMN]

Should Donut work now? I'm using a Polaris with a Donut build that worked before (the last in the Vogue Google Code Site), but it's looping in the the logo screen once and again. The ANDROID banner shows, later, it stops shining, black screen and logo again.

[stickus]

Still no joy on the Donut builds. I get past the Android logo and then to what looks like a lonely little cursor staring back at me... goes no further. Loving this with the Cupcake based builds tho :D

[cmus]

so I need a little Linux help. I booted Kubuntu 9.04 and installed my sd card in a card slot. It shows up at /media/disk but when I run Gparted, the only devices that show up are /dev/sda and /dev/sdb which are the two drives of my computer. How do I partition the /media/disk location?

Thanks, look forward to trying this.

[stickus]

so I need a little Linux help. I booted Kubuntu 9.04 and installed my sd card in a card slot. It shows up at /media/disk but when I run Gparted, the only devices that show up are /dev/sda and /dev/sdb which are the two drives of my computer. How do I partition the /media/disk location?

Thanks, look forward to trying this.

your card should be /dev/sdc try un-mounting it first (but leave it connected) and then try gparted.

[mssmison]

Still no joy on the Donut builds. I get past the Android logo and then to what looks like a lonely little cursor staring back at me... goes no further. Loving this with the Cupcake based builds tho :D

out of curiosity if you flash to donut and than reboot and boot haret again but do not enter recovery does that boot donut?

[cmus]

I tried typing umount /media/disk and then restarting gparted but there is still no /dev/sdc. any other ideas?

[moekind]

I formatted my sd card to fat 32 then created a linux ext 2 partition.
Then I followed the instructions, and everything booted correctly.
How can I confirm that everything is successful, I notice a speed
increase, but is there a way I can tell for sure?
I'm running the Ion build btw...

[jamezelle]

I formatted my sd card to fat 32 then created a linux ext 2 partition.
Then I followed the instructions, and everything booted correctly.
How can I confirm that everything is successful, I notice a speed
increase, but is there a way I can tell for sure?
I'm running the Ion build btw...

if you reboot into wm and plug it into your pc and ext2 partition pops up with app, bin, customize ect... then it i successful. if the partition shows up empty then it was not successful

[sshark]

does system have to be in sqsh format, I am used to using your Rogers v3 system.img....

[moekind]

In Paragon it says 110 mb on my ext2 partition is being used up
so I guess I did it right!
Right? Lolllllllll

[stickus]

out of curiosity if you flash to donut and than reboot and boot haret again but do not enter recovery does that boot donut?

Have been at work today, so I've only done a bit of testing so far. I'll try that when I get in tonight.

[adeyo]

Great to see mssmison coming out with something again -big fan of his work! I was recently trying to run the terminal to remove some apk's (and play around with the system)...but i didn't have rw permissions, i had read only. does this mean i will have the permissions needed to edit those folders, remove apk's, and basically destroy anything i want in the name of learning?? ...if so, i can't wait!!!!

Thanks Mssmison!

[enatefox]

Okay, I think I can cover everything. If not, ask:

You need to make sure the FAT partition is the first on the card, then the ext2

You need to make sure you format correctly

If it's boot looping or getting to the notification bar but no home screen you are probably SOL unless you use a premade data.img. They are on GC for you, I personally uploaded one for Sprint which will work for Cupcake. Never had a problem with that and Donut so it should "just work"

If you have read only on /system or / then Android is doing its job. Here's how you mount it read-write with ADB or terminal:
mount -o remount,rw /system
when you're done breaking things:
mount -o remount,ro /system
**EDIT, some images don't have the proper root permission so you get "permission denied" when you type "su" but you can override that by using "/bin/su" instead as it's incorrectly set to allow anyone to access root. The update mssmison uploaded has that fixed though and so do the images I posted but just in case, that's the fix.


And how's Donut and wifi working out with the updated rootfs.img?

[mssmison]

does system have to be in sqsh format, I am used to using your Rogers v3 system.img....

it's only squash builds now.
that's all I've released images in for a long time and assumed everyone was still using..

[TheKartus]

it's only squash builds now.
that's all I've released images in for a long time and assumed everyone was still using..

Donut still not working out?

[enatefox]

Donut still not working out?
You tell me. I put/updated all of the Donut stuff in there. It should be good to go with the newest rootfs.img and recovery.img

[TheKartus]

Trying it now. Been in the Android logo loop for a while. I'm just giving it time.

EDIT: Not sure if its working. The loop stops every now and then, screen goes black, and it starts up again. Its been going for a while, longer than usual with donut startup.

[enatefox]

You know how to use ADB right? Can you check logcat and see if dexopt is looping? Should flood stdout with "zomg this app changed, let me collect the certs" and keep going until acore or another core system process crashes at which point the whole boot sequence should loop again. If that's the case, I can fix it with a premade data.img. If not, please post it so we can get that fixed.

[TheKartus]

You know how to use ADB right? Can you check logcat and see if dexopt is looping? Should flood stdout with "zomg this app changed, let me collect the certs" and keep going until acore or another core system process crashes at which point the whole boot sequence should loop again. If that's the case, I can fix it with a premade data.img. If not, please post it so we can get that fixed.

I don't have a linux machine. I swap out files using an SD card adapter..... I can't gather a logcat. I'm trying to use this build with the data file I had with it before the new installation method.... could that be a problem?

[soccerman821]

thanks for all ur work. in doing this i have a 6gb card.. i partitioned a gig under ext2 and 5 as fat32.. when i plug it into my phone, under windows mobile, it asks to format and won't allow me to access my card without doing so. when i format it removes the partitions all together. any ideas?

i used ubuntu and a gnome partition editor to do so, running in vmware.

[jamezelle]

thanks for all ur work. in doing this i have a 6gb card.. i partitioned a gig under ext2 and 5 as fat32.. when i plug it into my phone, under windows mobile, it asks to format and won't allow me to access my card without doing so. when i format it removes the partitions all together. any ideas?

i used ubuntu and a gnome partition editor to do so, running in vmware.

when using gnome partition editor(G-Part-ED or gparted) move the fat 32 partition to the left of the ext2 partition. just a suggestion i have not tested this! gl!!

[soccerman821]

when using gnome partition editor(G-Part-ED or gparted) move the fat 32 partition to the left of the ext2 partition. just a suggestion i have not tested this! gl!!

thank you very much. worked like a champ. i never would of thought of that

[JeckyllHavok]

Am i the only one who gets the no media found message in alnum and music player?

[jamezelle]

Am i the only one who gets the no media found message in alnum and music player?

i had that too using jesterblur but using v1.3(with previous data.img) it works fine

[enatefox]

TheKartus, with ADB you run logcat against the phone-- it's independent of your computer. "adb logcat" will print to the screen, the other option is to use ddms from the SDK which gives you a full debugger for the phone.

Just to clarify what jamezelle said, you need the FAT partition to be the first one on the card for Windows to recognize it. With gparted, that would be the left. With fdisk there is no direction, only awesome.

Media not found issues are build specific, not related to this thread. You can try to use the Media Scanner in spare parts (or dev tools?).

[cainlol]

tried the recovery.img with the system-donut-102009-r2.sqsh. Looping on android logo or android logo ---> black screen. Also tried with a cupcake build : system-vilords-ion.sqsh( the only.sqsh cupcake i found) and it worked! is there a donut sqsh out there that is confirmed working? The donut build boots fine without the ext2 partition

NB i am using Polaris though...

[enatefox]

Anyone having boot loop issues please attach a logcat or there's nothing I can really do. ADB isn't hard to set up and the SDK has ddms which is a full GUI you can point and click to save a logcat.

[mssmison]

tried the recovery.img with the system-donut-102009-r2.sqsh. Looping on android logo or android logo ---> black screen. Also tried with a cupcake build : system-vilords-ion.sqsh( the only.sqsh cupcake i found) and it worked! is there a donut sqsh out there that is confirmed working? The donut build boots fine without the ext2 partition

NB i am using Polaris though...

Please DO NOT come in to this thread and start by saying it's not working only to follow up and state that you are using a phone that I am not supporting.

[moekind]

I am using a Vogue and I get the same issues as Cainlol with the donut
images. I'm going to try and use an old data file from ion and see if that works.

[TheKartus]

Any simple instructions on getting a logcat? I downloaded the SDK. I'll get one for the donut boot loop I'm having.

[enatefox]

plug the phone in while it's at the logo, open ddms, click the device, go to Device, Run Logcat, once it's looped through hit Cancel then Save.

[TheKartus]

plug the phone in while it's at the logo, open ddms, click the device, go to Device, Run Logcat, once it's looped through hit Cancel then Save.

I'll get that done for you. Just have to write a short paper first.

[cmus]

I really feel like a noob here, but can someone walk me through the partitioning process? I have tried the following: run parted in Kubuntu, make one 7.5 gig fat32 partition on my sd card, then I am failing on my attempts to make a 500 MB ext2 partition. I run the mkfs command and follow the dialog to make partition 2 as a ext2 partition but when it is done and I type "print" it shows partition 1 as my fat32 partition but partition 2 has no file system listed. What am I doing wrong?

Thanks


ahhh, nevermind, finally got it to work. here I go trying donut this way...

[TheKartus]

Is there a third file that should be in the 2.2 zip? I thought 2.1 included a zimage or something else also. I put in the new rootfs and the recovery image but for some reason I'm not even getting the option to load recovery.

EDIT: the first package had an initrid in it. I took that out of my recycle bin. Is it necessary?

EDIT2: I have ddms running and the device is showing up as ??????????? and online but I can't get logcat to run. It just keeps saying failed.

[tetrismonkey]

i would love to try this but i am lost as to how to mount my storage card to my windows xp PC through the phone if some one could walk me through this never done it before
and i know i need to make a back up of my card 1st and then do the partition
then load the new android
please any help
thank you

[Rhys'Droid]

i would love to try this but i am lost as to how to mount my storage card to my windows xp PC through the phone if some one could walk me through this never done it before
and i know i need to make a back up of my card 1st and then do the partition
then load the new android
please any help
thank you

You would be much better off going to Walmart and purchasing a USB card reader, they are what? $10?

[enatefox]

TheKartus:
adb shell logcat
save, upload

evilclosetmonkeynate:
adb push <somefile> /sdcard/
adb pull /sdcard/<somefile> "C:\Documents and Settings\user\My Documents\"

[Rhys'Droid]

Hmm, I thought he was refering to formatting the card? The ADB thing works quite well for transferring files, not quite "drag and drop" but once you get the hang of it, its nice. Eh well, sorry about the confusion.

[mssmison]

for anyone with looping donut, have you tried rebooting to winmo after updating with the recovery image and than just letting it boot normally?

[jamezelle]

for anyone with looping donut, have you tried rebooting to winmo after updating with the recovery image and than just letting it boot normally?

ill give it a shot...

[cainlol]

Please DO NOT come in to this thread and start by saying it's not working only to follow up and state that you are using a phone that I am not supporting.

sorry if I offended you, i only thought I could help by giving you the info i had found out by trying with the phone i had. i know this is the vogue forum, but i saw that other vogue users had the same problem. anyway it wasn´t my intent to complain, but to help. i don´t know how to use the adb, but i will find out.

[jamezelle]

@mssmison it just sat at ablack screen after donut bootscreen

and i couldnt get a logcat

amezelle@jamezelle-laptop:~$ adb shell
error: insufficient permissions for device
jamezelle@jamezelle-laptop:~$ adb logcat
- waiting for device -



it wouldnt load

[TheKartus]

for anyone with looping donut, have you tried rebooting to winmo after updating with the recovery image and than just letting it boot normally?

I have tried that. I got to the same spot as Jamezelle got to.

[jamezelle]

i also noticed when installing a new system it will replace /sdcard/backupsystem/installedsystem.sqsh with new one instead of well backing it up lol.


and of course i didnt back it up:p

[javamaan]

just a feedback.

First a background: I had downloaded donut into my vogue and had run successfully. Surprisingly it didn't have any forced closes. :) (earlier i had tried hero senseui and just gave up on it). Anyways i realized i had changed the donut.user.conf to user.conf. I dont know what impact it has on andriod. I assume i was looking at donut??:confused:

Anyways, i have 2gb sdcard. have about 750mb of wm6.5 data on it. so, when i ran v2.2, it was trying to back my data.img file as well as system.sqsh. It didn't have enough to backup and the booting process came to a halt at a $prompt. :(

I already backedup my data image in my hdd. So i am thinking, if you could give a choice to backup or not, it will be useful for some.

[Rhys'Droid]

This works great! soo much faster (and many fewer force close/wait messages!) WiFi even works. awesome great work

[tacomanmcjab]

I'm a bit of a noob to partitioning and such. I used paragon partition manager to partition a 500mg side to my card. Where do I place the android files, on the linux side of the card or the normal side? Also windows explorer cannot view the Linux side of the card, is that normal?

[Rhys'Droid]

I'm a bit of a noob to partitioning and such. I used paragon partition manager to partition a 500mg side to my card. Where do I place the android files, on the linux side of the card or the normal side? Also windows explorer cannot view the Linux side of the card, is that normal?

It is definitely normal for Windows to not see the Linux side of the card. Put all of your files on the Fat32 (Windows) side of the card, stuff gets copied to the Linux side on first boot. It is 100% worth it!

[tacomanmcjab]

It is definitely normal for Windows to not see the Linux side of the card. Put all of your files on the Fat32 (Windows) side of the card, stuff gets copied to the Linux side on first boot. It is 100% worth it!

Thank you very much, very kind of you to help me. :)
I will post back to see if an increase in performance is noted.

[javamaan]

This works great! soo much faster (and many fewer force close/wait messages!) WiFi even works. awesome great work

WiFi? what device are you using? it certainly not Vogue.

[TheKartus]

WiFi? what device are you using? it certainly not Vogue.

Hes on a Kaiser.

[tacomanmcjab]

For some reason its stuck at the linux screen, where it shows all the text. It's stuck at the line where it says, enabling aab function. Please help me.

[stickus]

Right. After trying to get Donut running, it's still a no go. Not sure why, but I still get a constant loop booting the system. Tried resetting and making sure that a compatible data.img is there. Can't get logcat output, my terminal just says it's waiting and never actually gives any output. Cupcake based build work just fine (although xROM 1.5 is a no go too, but I think it had Donut additions, right?), would really love to have something running at native resolution in Donut.

[plemen]

Right. After trying to get Donut running, it's still a no go. Not sure why, but I still get a constant loop booting the system. Tried resetting and making sure that a compatible data.img is there. Can't get logcat output, my terminal just says it's waiting and never actually gives any output. Cupcake based build work just fine (although xROM 1.5 is a no go too, but I think it had Donut additions, right?), would really love to have something running at native resolution in Donut.

My android build loops at the startup animation but I am able to get a running log - I'll take a look tomorrow and hopefully see what is causing this...

[mfpreach]

My android build loops at the startup animation but I am able to get a running log - I'll take a look tomorrow and hopefully see what is causing this...

Its probably a resolution issue, that happened with me with Hero too.

[Rhys'Droid]

For some reason its stuck at the linux screen, where it shows all the text. It's stuck at the line where it says, enabling aab function. Please help me.

What resolution do you have set in your default.txt? You running a Donut build, or some Hero variant?

edit: Ah, sorry, too early in the morning, I see that you are running Donut now. So the resolution shouldn't be the problem. You have the 2.2 recovery files, right? 2.1 didn't support Donut.

[OleJuice]

Wow mssmision.......great work here. Much faster.:)

[plemen]

I have my latest donut build working with this config - I`ll send the info to mssmison on what needs to be done to get it going for everybody.

[cmus]

I have my latest donut build working with this config - I`ll send the info to mssmison on what needs to be done to get it going for everybody.

Which is your latest Donut build and where can it be downloaded? Look forward to trying Donut with mssmison's new approach. My attempts so far have been unsuccessful.

[TheKartus]

Which is your latest Donut build and where can it be downloaded? Look forward to trying Donut with mssmison's new approach. My attempts so far have been unsuccessful.

Its in the thread titled "heroblend." I tried with the old system but had no luck, just downloaded the new one. I'll try it later, hopefully it works out. I like the look of the build.

[mssmison]

I have the info, I'm busy today but I've asked enatefox to help me, once I have new files I'll post them for everyone. Again sorry I don't use Donut so I couldn't trace the issue. As well this is why I like to BETA test :)
For anyone who wants to try and fix it themselves in the interm for themselves here's the info. please DO NOT release updated files for download. I will do that for everyone later as I don't want there to be confusion.
"Hi mssmisson - monitoring via ddms while booting donut with your config I noticed permissions errors with system/etc/dbus.conf. I chmod`ed this to 777 and now the donut build boots and works."

[plemen]

Which is your latest Donut build and where can it be downloaded? Look forward to trying Donut with mssmison's new approach. My attempts so far have been unsuccessful.

My build is here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578627

but the current build won't work yet without mssmison making a mod on his side. Let me try to make the mod on my end and I'll post it in a bit.

[sushichef]

thanks mssmison!, looking forward to the new files!

[Rhys'Droid]

Are people having issues booting Donut just on the Vogue, or on the Kaiser as well? I do not have a Vogue, so I cannot help troubleshoot for you guys (sorry..) but I do have a Kaiser and Donut boots up with no issues for me using mssmison's 2.2 files. If there is anything you would like me to look at, let me know.

[plemen]

Okay - I've modified my Donut build to work around the issue until mssmison has time update his files. It boots and works well with this new method - you can get it here:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578627

[SuperJMN]

Okay - I've modified my Donut build to work around the issue until mssmison has time update his files. It boots and works well with this new method - you can get it here:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=578627

Yesh!! It's working even in my Polaris ;) Come and try it. It takes some minutes to start for the first time, but it is worth waiting.

[Macmee]

I got a black screen, on installation and then when I try to boot android I get unable to mount /data. Running donut. It didn't back up my data file for me, good thing I did it myself.

I get as far as it actually showing the android loading screen, then it just freezes, and after a few seconds the screen goes black.

[TheKartus]

I got a black screen, on installation and then when I try to boot android I get unable to mount /data. Running donut. It didn't back up my data file for me, good thing I did it myself.

I get as far as it actually showing the android loading screen, then it just freezes, and after a few seconds the screen goes black.

Your trying to run a donut build right? They currently have issues with this method. The only donut build you can use is the one on Plemen's thread. That should boot up fine. Otherwise try an Ion or cupcake build. Or Hero.

[Macmee]

Your trying to run a donut build right? They currently have issues with this method. The only donut build you can use is the one on Plemen's thread. That should boot up fine. Otherwise try an Ion or cupcake build. Or Hero.

Ah, that's too bad. With the plemen build everything force closes for me, and it takes 10 minutes to load, with a new data.img :(

[KERKEDAGAIN]

Ah, that's too bad. With the plemen build everything force closes for me, and it takes 10 minutes to load, with a new data.img :(

mann..that kinda sux for you. his donut's ROCKIN'! you sure you tried the latest w/ the new config?

[MrDJ]

Not sure what I am doing wrong. Get the prompt to install and it then gets stuck on:

"enabling ADB function"

Any help would be appreciated!

Jared

[mrkite38]

Finally tried this and it's awesome! I'm a Linux n00b but I have some experience with GPartEd so I opted to use it instead of Paragon to partition the card.

Also, I wanted to note that I was able to format the card while it was in my phone. If you use a ROM that has the USB mode selector widget (e.g., NFSFAN) then you can set the mode to mass storage, leave USB connected, boot into GPartEd, and perform the necessary partitioning/formatting. I didn't try but you can probably connect the phone after the Livecd has booted, select USB, and rescan devices in GPartEd.

I'm running the jesterblur build from a while back and the difference is remarkable! Thanks mssmison!

[Macmee]

mann..that kinda sux for you. his donut's ROCKIN'! you sure you tried the latest w/ the new config?

Well I used all the files from this thread and them his system. When I open windows like maybe the settings panel it takes a long time to load, and it's taking me ages to boot, I'm not sure why.

[KERKEDAGAIN]

Well I used all the files from this thread and them his system. When I open windows like maybe the settings panel it takes a long time to load, and it's taking me ages to boot, I'm not sure why.

after you reboot that can be the case..have you used a task killer? i keep the Taskiller widget on my home and tap it as soon as i can, that usually gets things moving pretty quickly

[Macmee]

after you reboot that can be the case..have you used a task killer? i keep the Taskiller widget on my home and tap it as soon as i can, that usually gets things moving pretty quickly

I have rebooted many many times. It keeps rebooting itself when I do some things like turn it on, or sometimes when I click messaging app or check mail. I really hope there's a fix for this, as the rom looks absolutely sexy:D

[mssmison]

Is it really so hard to keep on topic?
Rom talk can be talked about in the Rom thread can't it? Or is that too challenging?

[plemen]

Is it really so hard to keep on topic?
Rom talk can be talked about in the Rom thread can't it? Or is that too challenging?

LOL - I hear you - macmee bring over the question the Heroblend thread; folks have it running well over there and can probably help you.

[Macmee]

LOL - I hear you - macmee bring over the question the Heroblend thread; folks have it running well over there and can probably help you.

Cheers, and sorry mssmison, I don't mean any disrespect:)

[myn]

I keep getting multiple:

cp: cannot create directory /system/customize
cp: cannot create directory /system/..
...
..

than It than proceeds to create the data.img than


init: cannot find '/system/bin/void', disable 'void'
init: cannot find '/system/bin/debuggerd', disable 'debuggerd'
...
..


on load after I hit the buttons twice.

It then freezes at "enabling adb function"

I've tried this with both xRom and senseHero v1.3.3. Same results.

For reference I used Acronis Disk Director to create the ext2 partition. 8gb class 6 microSD card.

[MrDJ]

I am in the same boat as you. I am guessing I must not be partitioning it correctly. I have ubundu and am using the disk utility. If anyone could point me the correct steps of how I should partition this I would appreciate it. From what I can tell I have the 2 partitions.

I keep getting multiple:

cp: cannot create directory /system/customize
cp: cannot create directory /system/..
...
..

than It than proceeds to create the data.img than


init: cannot find '/system/bin/void', disable 'void'
init: cannot find '/system/bin/debuggerd', disable 'debuggerd'
...
..


on load after I hit the buttons twice.

It then freezes at "enabling adb function"

I've tried this with both xRom and senseHero v1.3.3. Same results.

For reference I used Acronis Disk Director to create the ext2 partition. 8gb class 6 microSD card.

[jamezelle]

I am in the same boat as you. I am guessing I must not be partitioning it correctly. I have ubundu and am using the disk utility. If anyone could point me the correct steps of how I should partition this I would appreciate it. From what I can tell I have the 2 partitions.

make sure the fat partition is to the left of the ext2 partition if using GPartEd or partition manager

[ali3nfr3ak]

make sure the fat partition is to the left of the ext2 partition if using GPartEd or partition manager

i to have the same problem as the other 2 who posted, i also use ubuntu and used the inbuilt disk utility programm to partition card, 4 gig sdhc class 6

I assume u mean that the fat partition is to be created first? and then the linux ext2 partition, oh and im just letting it boot the normal way not the recovery option

[moekind]

ms when are u releasing the fix for donut builds?

[ali3nfr3ak]

I keep getting multiple:

cp: cannot create directory /system/customize
cp: cannot create directory /system/..
...
..

than It than proceeds to create the data.img than


init: cannot find '/system/bin/void', disable 'void'
init: cannot find '/system/bin/debuggerd', disable 'debuggerd'
...
..


on load after I hit the buttons twice.

It then freezes at "enabling adb function"

I've tried this with both xRom and senseHero v1.3.3. Same results.

For reference I used Acronis Disk Director to create the ext2 partition. 8gb class 6 microSD card.

I am in the same boat as you. I am guessing I must not be partitioning it correctly. I have ubundu and am using the disk utility. If anyone could point me the correct steps of how I should partition this I would appreciate it. From what I can tell I have the 2 partitions.

try using the recovery method ...read the boot up screens about 5 secs into bootup screen ...it asks if you if you wanna do this

[jamezelle]

i to have the same problem as the other 2 who posted, i also use ubuntu and used the inbuilt disk utility programm to partition card, 4 gig sdhc class 6

I assume u mean that the fat partition is to be created first? and then the linux ext2 partition, oh and im just letting it boot the normal way not the recovery option

no man you have to do the recovery that is the update method:)

[ali3nfr3ak]

no man you have to do the recovery that is the update method:)

hey there thanks, i actually figured that out in the end

[myn]

make sure the fat partition is to the left of the ext2 partition if using GPartEd or partition manager

That's exactly how I have it. Fat32 on left, ext2 on right

[MrDJ]

Figured it out. Used the gpart utility and worked like a charm!

Is there a wiki we can reference of builds that work with this ext2 process?

[myn]

Figured it out. Used the gpart utility and worked like a charm!

Is there a wiki we can reference of builds that work with this ext2 process?

x2. As mentioned, I was having issues with Acronis, so I used the gparted live cd. Seems to now work. Thanks.

[KERKEDAGAIN]

so if i mount the system as rw i, theoretically, could add blurnimations to an already installed system right?

what file/folder would i be looking for so as to make that modification?

[myn]

Anyone able to get this working with xRom?

[sshark]

Hey guys, I have been running this with 200mb swap file and runs quite smooth! I love it.

By the way, how's everyone's experience with Market after moving to this method. For me, it shows it's downloading but never does.

[duchoang81]

Hi mssmison, i tried your method running on my kasier. It could get into android and use phone function on my kasier. But It could not log in any wifi network (although could scan and see wifi network). i use donut build (with normal method, it could log in wifi network). Could you advise me to get wifi on kaiser working properly.

P/s: your method running so fast on my kaiser, hihi.

[SuperJMN]

Hi mssmison, i tried your method running on my kasier. It could get into android and use phone function on my kasier. But It could not log in any wifi network (although could scan and see wifi network). i use donut build (with normal method, it could log in wifi network). Could you advise me to get wifi on kaiser working properly.

P/s: your method running so fast on my kaiser, hihi.

Did you see the Wireless Options screen to see if it's trying to obtaing an IP address? I this problem. It never gets an IP address. I had to enter the configuration manually :(

[mssmison]

Hi mssmison, i tried your method running on my kasier. It could get into android and use phone function on my kasier. But It could not log in any wifi network (although could scan and see wifi network). i use donut build (with normal method, it could log in wifi network). Could you advise me to get wifi on kaiser working properly.

P/s: your method running so fast on my kaiser, hihi.

I don't have or support a kaiser phone. Enatefox made the changes for wifi, ask him.

[enatefox]

This (http://www.mediafire.com/?j1wjjy34myw) should fix it, has a readme attached.

[drewden123]

Sorry if i'm asking a dumb question here, but are hero builds supported in this?

[jamezelle]

Sorry if i'm asking a dumb question here, but are hero builds supported in this?

they work if thats what you mean

[drewden123]

they work if thats what you mean

Thank you. I wasn't sure because I saw in the changelog that it was updated to support donut.

[polyrhythmic]

I know my Kaiser is unsupported but thanks so much mssmison! Builds FLY on my Kaiser, Sense is finally usable! The last piece to the puzzle will be the upcoming RIL. Amazing what you guys are doing with these devices.

[aven_soulgazer]

I had been using system-tmo-ota-drc92.sqsh prior to starting using your new system here. I just can't seem to get it to work. I got the system posted earlier in this thread to work, but my old data file wouldn't work with it that I had all set up the way I wanted. Hoping the next update fixes that, or we get 2.0 soon. Either way, it's running amazingly fast with the system image in this thread. Not sure if I have compcache on or off, and have no swap partition. Is it running faster with a swap partition running as well or no? Thanks

[mssmison]

I had been using system-tmo-ota-drc92.sqsh prior to starting using your new system here. I just can't seem to get it to work. I got the system posted earlier in this thread to work, but my old data file wouldn't work with it that I had all set up the way I wanted. Hoping the next update fixes that, or we get 2.0 soon. Either way, it's running amazingly fast with the system image in this thread. Not sure if I have compcache on or off, and have no swap partition. Is it running faster with a swap partition running as well or no? Thanks

if you use zen's last donut build it work with those old files. The new files however will work 100%

[silex]

any benefit for going with an ext3 instead of ext2 partition? Is any body using a linux-swap?

[mssmison]

any benefit for going with an ext3 instead of ext2 partition? Is any body using a linux-swap?

ext3 can actually be slower than ext2 because of some overhead stuff so stick with 2. I really recommend to try and stay away from swap when possible, the donut/rogers/ion builds don't need it, only the builds that are designed for higher amounts of ram.

[silex]

I've got Hero 1.3.3. running pretty awesome on ext2. Thanks for the feedback!

[mssmison]

I've got Hero 1.3.3. running pretty awesome on ext2. Thanks for the feedback!

yeah for a hero build you'll probably want to use swap, I recommend a file that is deleted and recreated on every boot to try and avoid corrupting your sdcard.

[mssmison]

the partition method has been integrated with the new rootfs, moving forward please see the thread here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=584707

[polyrhythmic]

I am happily using linux-swap partition with senseHero 1.3.3, I keep switching between that and compcache, can't decide what I like better. Although it's not clear that swap partition is supported in newest rootfs, I'll have to look