[APP]Filter Rules for SMS 4.6 (UPDATED 23rd-March)

[mohitsapru]

Source Code now Open- Project hosted at http://smsrules.codeplex.com/


The most comprehensive SMS management tool which gives you an option to do what you always wanted to do.
Some of the things which it enables you to do!!
1. Filter all the incoming messages and Move/Copy them to a folder
2. Create/Delete user folders.
3. Hide private messages.
4. Automatically delete messages.
5. Archive messages and store in a date-wise folders.
6. Apply rules either automatically or manually.
7. Apply some rules automatically and some manually.
8. Contact and Message content based filtering.
9. Low on memory and battery. No background process to monitor SMS.
10. View and delete created rules. :) Silly to mention it.
11. Simple Deployment and easy interface. works from storage Card.

This was developed with the help of open source project MAPIDotNet (http://www.codeproject.com/KB/mobile/PocketPCandSmartphone.aspx?display=Print).
Needs .NET CF 3.5
Using and Configuring SMSRules

1. All rules are configured through CreateRules GUI in program shortcut.
2. Initial Password also needs to be configured through Createrules GUI (about tab->personal->show)
3. AutoRun, Manual filtering of user folders, Archiving all done through CreateRules GUI.
4. After setting up rules you can use Runrules to filter SMSes.
5. After setting up initial password you can use PrivateSMS app to show hide PRIVATE folder.
The PRIVATE folder will be shown/Created automatically in WM SMS app(tmail)(will automatically open on providing correct password), you need to go and look into the folders to see your SMSes.

GUIDE (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5595058&postcount=276)

FAQs:

1>How to autorun the rules?
To autorun a rule/rules autorun option should be checked in the main menu. auto run run only those rules which have auto option selected.

2>Can I create/delete folders using this?
yes, but you can only create and delete the user folders in SMS account

3>Will copy option copy every time it is run?
No, copy option will copy the message into destination folder and mark the copied message as read at both places. so only unread message will be copied.

4>What folder to select with delete option?
you can select any folder as the message is finally going to be deleted so it wont matter(better option is to chose "deleted items" as it is easy to view in rules view)

5>What is HIDE option!(EDIT)
this option can only be used for now in contacts page.
V3.1>If a message comes from the user it will be deleted from the inbox and saved inside the application. also autorun should be enabled for this feature to work.
V4.1>From v4.1 messages are moved to a hidden folder in the Outlook, so basically the messages are still in outlook but u can't see those.

6> Where to look for HIDDEN messages(EDIT)?
to view hidden messages go to about page and there personal menu->show and select the dropdown to select the user for which u want to see the messages.
From v4.1>To see the hidden messages u have to provide correct password and then click on the show private folder button. Doing this will create a new folder(PRIVATE) and will have all the private messages of yours ;)
From v4.3 An extra shortcut has been supplied which will directly allow you to hide/show private smses. But you need to initially set password from the createrules application.

7>Can i delete the hidden messages?
Yes you can. In 3.1 just select and delete the message and from 4.1 delete it like you delete any other message from your outlook.

8>Do i need to create a folder to store a hidden message?
No, there is no need to select any folder name as application will take care of it. and in view rules option you can find your hidden messages rule in folder named as "#".

9>What is this "#" in contact rules folder dropdown?
refer FAQ 8.

10>How frequently will this app be updated?
As frequently as ideas pour in. ;)

11>What is the initial password?
There is no initial password. After installing v3.1/v4.1 opening personal messages will ask you for a password, that will be used automatically in next logins.
Before using the new PrivateSMS shortcut in 4.3 you need to set up a password for use through CreateRules gui.

12>Can I change password?
Yes, when you have created a password and want to change it you can do that by checking the change password checkbox and providing the old and then the new password.

13>I forgot my password, can i recover it?
no, Contact me here for the solution. ;)
NOTE: You have to create a new password from CreateRules link before you try to use the PrivateSMS shortcut.


14>How to install/Uninstall it?
please uncheck autorun before installing/uninstalling.



15> How to hide the PRIVATE folder?
Just close the application or again provide the password and there you can see the same button will have a text prompt to hide the folder.
For PrivateSMS shortcut it will give you an option to hide also, even if you close the application it will automatically hide the folder.


16> How can i Delete all Private messages?
to delete all the hidden messages go to your private area by providing password and there u can click on the delete private messages button, which deletes all the private messages.

17>When i go to my SMS folder i cant see any PRIVATE folder!
PRIVATE folder will be enabled only when u have started the application and clicked the show button after proving the password.

18>Do i need to create a PRIVATE folder first on my own?
No, there is no need to do so as the application will take care of it.

19>So what folder name should i give to HIDE rule?
refer FAQ8

20>Do i need to delete my earlier rules?
No there is no need to so but all the messages which were stored earlier with hide option wont be accessible. if you used 3.1

21>I want to save my earlier rules! what to do?
Just install the application at the same location or copy the rules.db, ur password and all the rules will remain same.


CHANGES IN 4.1
1. Modified the hide logic, now saves the messages in outlook.(Thanks to krups (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=1324574) for sharing the idea)
2. Fixed some bugs.
3. Autorun application now won't remain running after a message arrives(saving battery and memory).

Changes in 4.2
1. Autorun option stops wm default notification and provides custom notifications for the rules applied. Unchecking Autorun starts wm notification.(Seems it may toggle threaded mode in some devices. U may try this solution (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1961736&postcount=21))
2. Contact names are now in order.
3. First Name last name rules now working.
4. One more option added to add wildcard numbers. to match common format numbers.
5. Some minor fixes.
6. Select option to view PRIVATE folder in SMS inbox opens the tmail application automatically.

Changes in 4.3
If 4.2 is installed please first un-check autorun.
1. Horizontal ScrollBar added to add contact list.
2. New Tab added (Tools), gives option to Archive selected folders.
Archiving will move all the messages from the selected folders to the ArchivedSMS folder and create a subdirectory tree with same name as of the source folder and under that will create folders datewise.Eg
ArchivedSMS->Inbox->Inbox_160110
Tools tab also provides another option to run the rules over any subfolders.
Select the folder from the dropdown list and then apply rules.
3. New shortcut added in program menu with name "Private SMS" which enables you to access your private folder directly.
NOTE: You have to create a new password from CreateRules link before you try to use the shortcut.
4. The time for which wait cursor was getting displayed when a SMS is intersepted, has been reduced.
5. While changing the password from the main application it asks for the new password two times to confirm.
6. Enabling/Disabling Autorun changes the way the New Text Message is notified. Now this will change the sound and notification settings.

Changes in 4.3a
Modifies the cab to create a folder and keep all the exes shortcuts there.
Added a slider control in PrivateSMS application to fetch number of private smses it should display. Keeping it low will display the last one and maximum will show all.
This was done incase you have alot of Private SMS it used to take time to show them, this option reduces the time by limiting the number of smses you want to see

Changes in 4.4
1. Made custom notification optional, you can now select, to have or not to have a notification displayed when a sms is filtered. You can choose it from Createrules GUI menu.
2. If you have opted to be notified it will display only one notification for all the sms you receive and will have two buttons in notification window, one to close the notification and other to refresh, refresh updates the no of rules completed, incase there were more messages filtered after the first time notification was displayed.

Changes in 4.5
1. Menu modified.
2. Option added for scheduled run(Only at first tab)
3. Control over notification, choose over windows default notification, custom notification and hidden rules notification.
4. One bug fix

Changes in 4.5b
1. Fixed SMS filtering in case filtering was done in Sent items

Changes in 4.6b
1. Size reduced
2. Faster filtering
3. Should Work on threaded mode :) Finally

GUIDE (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5595058&postcount=276)
Known Bugs: (Thanks to Jibreil (http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=396886))
1. Autorun option wont work in HD2. Is this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5948414&postcount=393)a fix?

Your Comments are welcome


Plz report bugs....
PLZ TAKE A BACKUP (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1189061&postcount=1) OF YOUR MESSAGES, I DONT WANT TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR LOST MESSAGES:o Just a precaution "Never happened":rolleyes:

!!!WARNING!!!

Suggested by: LCyberFox

This app uses the MessageInterceptor APIs (to save battery power) from PocketOutlook which is very buggy. may cause tmail (pocket outlook) to lag or completely freeze if you receive messages quickly back to back.
A post on that:
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/For...-a455840c75d4/ (http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/For...-a455840c75d4/)

ps: This *ONLY* applies if you are using this app using the "Auto" mode, if you aren't, then you're safe :)

Incase you are about to uninstall it PLZ *UNCHECK AUTORUN* or may still lead to some lags.



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[ranasrule]

not bad....ill give it a go

[benko286]

VGA ready?

[mohitsapru]

VGA ready?

This one seems to be a VGA ready... infact should support all screen resolutions...

[mohitsapru]

not bad....ill give it a go

sure thanks, n let me know of any problems

[mohitsapru]

I know it is still a under development app and lot of improvement will be comming but still your ideas/comments will be appreciated.

[rwt33]

Well done, awesome to see MAPIdotnet being used around the place!

Robert

[sbettencourt]

Look's nice :) i will trie...yes..yes...

Thank's :cool:

[the0ne]

thanks for this mate

[mohitsapru]

Well done, awesome to see MAPIdotnet being used around the place!

Robert

thanks to you robert, i was searching for these wrappers for months...finally found it.
seems u joined xda to provide comments... :) nice place for you. it will b good if you publish ur work here also:)

[gabfus]

I have installed now your program but I have more contact with equal firstname and more contact with equal lastname, you can add to next version on default option union of firstname and lastname?
Thanks for your work.

[VoiceX]

will try it on my HTC Touch HD

normally I sort them manually (big effort), now it seems, I found a solution.

You get my feedback ;-)

[ysva]

How exactly should a rule be written?

My goal is to write a rule so that:

messages starting with,
and/or ending with,
a certain word or several words,
(without a difference in capital letters or not),
get moved to a certain folder that I've created in my SMS/MMS inbox.


My failed attempt so far was to try it the following way:
I created a folder called "Filter".
I then created a new Message Rule.
For the rule I entered "BANANA" in the "Filter Message" box.
I selected the folder in the list called "FILTER".
I pressed "Add".
Now it's in the existing message rules when I select the FILTER folder.
That obviously didn't work but it was a fun try :P

Sidenote 1: I'm using an HTC Touch Pro 2 (European Version) with threaded messages disabled so I could create a new folder in my SMS/MMS inbox.

Sidenote 2: The program's working perfectly on a WVGA screen. Even when I slide out my keyboard and the screen turns it still works fine, apart from the fact that half of the screen hides as no scroll bars appear. This is easily resolved by sliding the keyboard back in.

Sidenote 3: It would be great if the "Unkown Contact" could be added. (The one that lacks a first and last name in the address book.)

I haven't seen the program work yet but I'm loving it already. :D

[mohitsapru]

How exactly should a rule be written?

My goal is to write a rule so that:

messages starting with,
and/or ending with,
a certain word or several words,
(without a difference in capital letters or not),
get moved to a certain folder that I've created in my SMS/MMS inbox.


My failed attempt so far was to try it the following way:
I created a folder called "Filter".
I then created a new Message Rule.
For the rule I entered "BANANA" in the "Filter Message" box.
I selected the folder in the list called "FILTER".
I pressed "Add".
Now it's in the existing message rules when I select the FILTER folder.
That obviously didn't work but it was a fun try :P

Sidenote 1: I'm using an HTC Touch Pro 2 (European Version) with threaded messages disabled so I could create a new folder in my SMS/MMS inbox.

Sidenote 2: The program's working perfectly on a WVGA screen. Even when I slide out my keyboard and the screen turns it still works fine, apart from the fact that half of the screen hides as no scroll bars appear. This is easily resolved by sliding the keyboard back in.

Sidenote 3: It would be great if the "Unkown Contact" could be added. (The one that lacks a first and last name in the address book.)

I haven't seen the program work yet but I'm loving it already. :D

Thanks for testing it ysva
well after creating the filter rule did you run it :confused: Menu-> run rules ?
well the current filter works like it will search for whole message content for the given filter and that will be case insensitive.
and also it wont work for MMS:o

[ysva]

You're welcome mohitsapru.

I created 1 rule.
I opened the "MessageRule" tab.
The filter message was "BANANA", (which I entered in capital letters for tests with case sensitivity).
I selected the folder called FILTER and then I pressed "Add".
EDIT: I did get the "Message rule added" message.
The rule had been added to the "message rules" in the "Existing" tab.

I then continued to send myself a couple of text messages from a different phone number with messages such as "BANANA", "banana", "test BANANA", "banana test".

I then went back to press the "Run Rules" button. The windows loading icon appeared for a couple of seconds.

Then I went to check the "Inbox" folder and the text messages are still there. The "Filter" folder is still empty. I will now do some tests to see what happens if I choose a different folder.

[ysva]

Another result of testing: I just deleted the BANANA rule and the application crashed with an unknown error.

The error is as follows:
CreateRules.exe
NullReferenceException

at
CreateRules.Rules.menuItem2_Click(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at
System.Windows.Forms.MenuItem.Onclick(EventArgs e)
at
System.Windows.Forms.Menu.ProcessMnuProc(Control ctlThis, WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at
System.Windows.Forms.Form.WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at
System.Windows.Forms.Control._Internal WnProc(WM wm, Int32 wParam, Int32 lParam)
at
Microsoft.AGL.Forms.EVL.EnterMainLoop(IntPtr hwnMain)
at
System.Windows.Forms.Application.Run(Form fm)
at
Createrules.Program.Main()

I will continue my tests.

[mohitsapru]

You're welcome mohitsapru.

I created 1 rule.
I opened the "MessageRule" tab.
The filter message was "BANANA", (which I entered in capital letters for tests with case sensitivity).
I selected the folder called FILTER and then I pressed "Add".
EDIT: I did get the "Message rule added" message.
The rule had been added to the "message rules" in the "Existing" tab.

I then continued to send myself a couple of text messages from a different phone number with messages such as "BANANA", "banana", "test BANANA", "banana test".

I then went back to press the "Run Rules" button. The windows loading icon appeared for a couple of seconds.

Then I went to check the "Inbox" folder and the text messages are still there. The "Filter" folder is still empty. I will now do some tests to see what happens if I choose a different folder.

Cant figure out y s is this happning... well we will wait till others confirm...
and thanks for testing heavily:D

[ysva]

You're still welcome.

After the error I ran the program again and it worked normally. The rule that I had deleted (that caused the error) was gone so that was fine too. I did not get another error. Perhaps it only happens when one deletes the rule, adds it again in the exact same way but with a different folder, and tried to delete it again. That's what happened the last time.

I tried selecting different folders and creating different text messages with BANANA in different folders, but that didn't work. The situation did not when if my inbox was open at the same time as your program or not. I am thinking that HTC's Touchflo might be interfering or that I need to soft reset my phone, I'm going to try that now.

Suggestion: Perhaps it would be easier if a folder could be selected that would be scanned for a certain criterium and then a folder could be selected where to move it to.
EDIT: Suggestion 2: For in the future when you're bored and have absolutely nothing to do and want to add new features: Option to auto mark as read for everything that gets moved.


Note: I noticed that you're using WM 6.5, I'm still using 6.1 because HTC has not yet provided an official upgrade for the european version of the HTC Touch Pro II. I do have the latest .NET framework etc. etc. installed. Might there be a compatibility issue?

[mohitsapru]

You're still welcome.

After the error I ran the program again and it worked normally. The rule that I had deleted (that caused the error) was gone so that was fine too. I did not get another error. Perhaps it only happens when one deletes the rule, adds it again in the exact same way but with a different folder, and tried to delete it again. That's what happened the last time.

I tried selecting different folders and creating different text messages with BANANA in different folders, but that didn't work. The situation did not when if my inbox was open at the same time as your program or not. I am thinking that HTC's Touchflo might be interfering or that I need to soft reset my phone, I'm going to try that now.

Suggestion: Perhaps it would be easier if a folder could be selected that would be scanned for a certain criterium and then a folder could be selected where to move it to.
EDIT: Suggestion 2: For in the future when you're bored and have absolutely nothing to do and want to add new features: Option to auto mark as read for everything that gets moved.


Note: I noticed that you're using WM 6.5, I'm still using 6.1 because HTC has not yet provided an official upgrade for the european version of the HTC Touch Pro II. I do have the latest .NET framework etc. etc. installed. Might there be a compatibility issue?

I found out why it is erroring while deleting a rule... when either no selection has been done or no rule is selected...
Well sorry for confusion i am using wm6.1 cooked rom.... i just keep changing ROMS more than changing Signature ;)
I have manila2d and it keeps showing SMSes. well i tried with my inbox open and ran a rule and it is working... maybe someone can give inputs for their runs... maybe some issues with different OS versions...

[ysva]

I found out why it is erroring while deleting a rule... when either no selection has been done or no rule is selected...
Well sorry for confusion i am using wm6.1 cooked rom.... i just keep changing ROMS more than changing Signature ;)
I have manila2d and it keeps showing SMSes. well i tried with my inbox open and ran a rule and it is working... maybe someone can give inputs for their runs... maybe some issues with different OS versions...

another test result: contact rules don't seem work either. shame :(

that's it for now with the testing. I'll check back later, if you need any testing done feel free to reply to this thread, I have subscribed to it so I'll get an email instantly.

good luck!

[mohitsapru]

another test result: contact rules don't seem work either. shame :(

that's it for now with the testing. I'll check back later, if you need any testing done feel free to reply to this thread, I have subscribed to it so I'll get an email instantly.

good luck!

Hmm well that means nothing is working for you??:eek: except creating and deleting of rules:D

well will try to figure it out later...(WEEKEND :o)

[sd00]

Looks promising - stick in & you'll get there mate.

Some feature requests...

Move to hidden (hidden) folder (not sure how you would implement - ideas welcome) - this might include an option to prevent the audible / vibration alert
Option per rule to intercept incoming SMS to process rule on arrival of new messages (this is fairly easy)
Composite rules (like outlook) e.g. 1:Move message to 2:secret where 3:body 4:contains 5:sexy


The numbered underlined parts of the 'Composite rules' are a choice of

Move / Delete / Copy
Folder / Secret folder
Body / Sender Name / Sender Number
Contains / Start with / Ends With / Equals
Criteria


PS, there are VGA emulators available from MS for testing :)

Lastly, if any of these are already implemented, my apologies, I haven't tried your app (yet) but I will - I just wanted to show my interest.

Cheers, sd00

[mohitsapru]

another test result: contact rules don't seem work either. shame :(

that's it for now with the testing. I'll check back later, if you need any testing done feel free to reply to this thread, I have subscribed to it so I'll get an email instantly.

good luck!

One more thing is your messages/locale english ??:o asking because maybe locale might be a problem...

[ysva]

One more thing is your messages/locale english ??:o asking because maybe locale might be a problem...
good thinking!
my locale isn't english but dutch (the language they speak in the Netherlands, Europe. not to be confused with deutsch, that's german). the du
tch language is often shortened by the code 'NL' (same as other languages us-en, fr, de, etc.)

do I need to do some research for you of where my messages could be located according to my locale or find translations?

[mohitsapru]

good thinking!
my locale isn't english but dutch (the language they speak in the Netherlands, Europe. not to be confused with deutsch, that's german). the du
tch language is often shortened by the code 'NL' (same as other languages us-en, fr, de, etc.)

do I need to do some research for you of where my messages could be located according to my locale or find translations?

well thanks for letting me know, will try to make it locale proof...in next release... :D
for the time being can you just try by changing your phones locale to USA english... and test it... and let me know of the results :o

Thanks

[ysva]

well thanks for letting me know, will try to make it locale proof...in next release... :D
for the time being can you just try by changing your phones locale to USA english... and test it... and let me know of the results :o

Thanks

sorry, changing the locale didn't work :(

[yinx]

On my hermes, I installed your app. ,but I found I couldn't add folder in my sms app. The "manager folder" menu is grayed out. I don't know why.Is there somewhere in registry that can control this menu item ?

[mohitsapru]

On my hermes, I installed your app. ,but I found I couldn't add folder in my sms app. The "manager folder" menu is grayed out. I don't know why.Is there somewhere in registry that can control this menu item ?

Hi yinx,

Could you please confirm if you have threaded sms enabled? as this might be a reason and in case it is then u need to change it to normal view using advance configuration tool or in registry change SMSInboxThreadingDisabled value to 1 which can be found in
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM

[mohitsapru]

sorry, changing the locale didn't work :(

Hi ysva,

could you please replace your exes with these one and try, also could you plz send me your .rule files which will be there in the SMSRule folder in program files. thanks

[yinx]

Hi yinx,

Could you please confirm if you have threaded sms enabled? as this might be a reason and in case it is then u need to change it to normal view using advance configuration tool or in registry change SMSInboxThreadingDisabled value to 1 which can be found in
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM

Yes, I'm in threaded mode, I'll switch it and give it a try. Thanks.

[muhmak]

hi!it did not work on HTC VOX!:(((

[mohitsapru]

hi!it did not work on HTC VOX!:(((

Did not work means?? You got error running it or it was running but did not filtered the messages?
Could you also please give some description about your locale and device.

Thanks

[mohitsapru]

I have installed now your program but I have more contact with equal firstname and more contact with equal lastname, you can add to next version on default option union of firstname and lastname?
Thanks for your work.

Hi gabfus,

Seems fine but with new version you might find use of sender names from message useful...

[mohitsapru]

will try it on my HTC Touch HD

normally I sort them manually (big effort), now it seems, I found a solution.

You get my feedback ;-)

Thanks VoiceX for the feedback ;)

[ysva]

Yes, I'm in threaded mode, I'll switch it and give it a try. Thanks.

if you've added the folder in the non-threaded mode you can switch back to regular and the folder will remain there. I'm yet to find out if it still works if you have threaded mode one, could you check this for me?

[ysva]

Hi ysva,

could you please replace your exes with these one and try, also could you plz send me your .rule files which will be there in the SMSRule folder in program files. thanks

Yes. I'll first try out your original before trying your new version. I have the new (official) European version of the HTC Touch Pro II rom with windows mobile 6.5 and HTC Sense instead of TouchFlo 3D. Afterwards I'll try your new version.

[mohitsapru]

Yes. I'll first try out your original before trying your new version. I have the new (official) European version of the HTC Touch Pro II rom with windows mobile 6.5 and HTC Sense instead of TouchFlo 3D. Afterwards I'll try your new version.

So in your rom is sms inbox written as "INBOX" or some thing else... because inside my application i am searching for INBOX... might be the reason why my application is not working on non wwe roms.... any ways plz confirm if it is the case...

[kiolixed]

So in your rom is sms inbox written as "INBOX" or some thing else... because inside my application i am searching for INBOX... might be the reason why my application is not working on non wwe roms.... any ways plz confirm if it is the case...

I think i know why this app is not working on non-WWE ROM..it is because this app cannot read/detect unicode characters in the contacts...it only detects LATIN ALPHAPBET...

I tried rule with my contact containing symbol "{" and "}" ... the rule not working...i think this app cannot detect symbols in contact too...

[kiolixed]

I know it is still a under development app and lot of improvement will be comming but still your ideas/comments will be appreciated.

request : could u make app that can lock INBOX (password security)

[mohitsapru]

request : could u make app that can lock INBOX (password security)

Thanks kiolixed,

i suppose the correct person to do that is Robert whose wrappers i am using in my app u may want to suggest/ask this here (http://www.codeproject.com/KB/mobile/PocketPCandSmartphone.aspx?display=Print)

[kiolixed]

Thanks kiolixed,

i suppose the correct person to do that is Robert whose wrappers i am using in my app u may want to suggest/ask this here (http://www.codeproject.com/KB/mobile/PocketPCandSmartphone.aspx?display=Print)

could u relay my request to him?

[mohitsapru]

could u relay my request to him?

well will do that but i think it wont be possible with these wrappers, since these wrappers are just used for message interseption and handling. blocking a folder doesnt seem possible with it... anyways will check out...

[kiolixed]

well will do that but i think it wont be possible with these wrappers, since these wrappers are just used for message interseption and handling. blocking a folder doesnt seem possible with it... anyways will check out...

ok thenx....BTW hv u figured out already why ur app does not working on non-WWE ROM?...

[mohitsapru]

ok thenx....BTW hv u figured out already why ur app does not working on non-WWE ROM?...

I am not sure wether is it working or not... since i havnt got much feedback from the users... since i dont know how sms folders are named in Non wwe roms, i cant tell exactly why is it happning. my best guess is that non wwe rom are having folder names in local language for "INBOX" and "SMS/MMS" since i am "exactly" searching for these folders in my code, this might be the part where it skips the INBOX folder...

[kiolixed]

I am not sure wether is it working or not... since i havnt got much feedback from the users... since i dont know how sms folders are named in Non wwe roms, i cant tell exactly why is it happning. my best guess is that non wwe rom are having folder names in local language for "INBOX" and "SMS/MMS" since i am "exactly" searching for these folders in my code, this might be the part where it skips the INBOX folder...

I tried rule with my contact containing symbol "{" and "}" ... the rule not working...i think this app cannot detect symbols in contact too...

I am using latest energy ROM WWE

[mohitsapru]

I tried rule with my contact containing symbol "{" and "}" ... the rule not working...i think this app cannot detect symbols in contact too...

I am using latest energy ROM WWE

Yes tested that(FAILS:o), well figure it out... right now i am rewriting the app again to include some features which were not possible with current implimentation... also i will try to get it working for non-wwe roms.

Also for hiding a folder there is no implimentation as such in the wrappers i use...(Confirmed)
well hope any one comes up with that idea.(or may be i will ;) who knows... need to complete pending things first)

[kiolixed]

Yes tested that(FAILS:o), well figure it out... right now i am rewriting the app again to include some features which were not possible with current implimentation... also i will try to get it working for non-wwe roms.

Also for hiding a folder there is no implimentation as such in the wrappers i use...(Confirmed)
well hope any one comes up with that idea.(or may be i will ;) who knows... need to complete pending things first)

could u inform/emel me plz when u finished rewriting the app...

[mohitsapru]

could u inform/emel me plz when u finished rewriting the app...

keep visiting this forum... it will be updated here

[JoOoSs]

Oh my god the app i always wanted! :D
I will test and give you a feedback!
Thanks.

[mohitsapru]

Oh my god the app i always wanted! :D
I will test and give you a feedback!
Thanks.

Hope you find it usefull :)

[JoOoSs]

Hope you find it usefull :)

You have reached the maxixum count of download in rapidshare :(
Can you upload yor cab in Megaupload/Mediafire ?

[mohitsapru]

You have reached the maxixum count of download in rapidshare :(
Can you upload yor cab in Megaupload/Mediafire ?

Cab is there as an attachment in the first forum.
well i will upload it at other sites also...

[JoOoSs]

oh sorry i'm stupid, please forget my error i see rapidshare link and automatically i think it's not attach on the forum ^^'

EDIT = The rules works but when i check auto, the apps copy ALL messages at each new message of my contact, i believed it copy only the new messages, not all =/

[mohitsapru]

oh sorry i'm stupid, please forget my error i see rapidshare link and automatically i think it's not attach on the forum ^^'

EDIT = The rules works but when i check auto, the apps copy ALL messages at each new message of my contact, i believed it copy only the new messages, not all =/

Sorry JoOoSs, i didnt get what exactly is the problem you are facing. do you mean it is not applying the rules to previously received messages in the inbox?

Just to clarify my self...
The way app works is:
1) It can only apply rules to messages in the inbox(including old ones).
2) we have 3 ways to handle messages. A. Move B. Copy C. Delete
3) you have an option to auto run rules, if auto is checked the rule will be tested and filtered every time a new message arrives.
To enable autorunning of rules select auto run from menu.

[JoOoSs]

No, i will try to explain it :
I create a new rule like it : COPY message of my contact to the "xxxx" folder. I set it to auto (i checked it on existing).
Now, when a new message of my contact arrives, the app doesn't copy only the new message, it copy the older messages too at each new message, so i have many duplicated messages in my folder. =/

Do you understand what i mean or not ?

[mohitsapru]

No, i will try to explain it :
I create a new rule like it : COPY message of my contact to the "xxxx" folder. I set it to auto (i checked it on existing).
Now, when a new message of my contact arrives, the app doesn't copy only the new message, it copy the older messages too at each new message, so i have many duplicated messages in my folder. =/

Do you understand what i mean or not ?

ok got it now... yes i think it will happen like this...well i will try to fix it...thanks for pointing it out.

[mohitsapru]

No, i will try to explain it :
I create a new rule like it : COPY message of my contact to the "xxxx" folder. I set it to auto (i checked it on existing).
Now, when a new message of my contact arrives, the app doesn't copy only the new message, it copy the older messages too at each new message, so i have many duplicated messages in my folder. =/

Do you understand what i mean or not ?

new cab with some issues and this fix done...

[JoOoSs]

new cab with some issues and this fix done...

Thanks, i'm trying! :)

[kiolixed]

new cab with some issues and this fix done...

does this new version fix the symbol and non-wwe ROM issues?...

[kiolixed]

new cab with some issues and this fix done...

does it fix symbols and NON-WWE ROM issues?...

[mohitsapru]

does it fix symbols and NON-WWE ROM issues?...

Symbol issue is fixed... non WWE roms issues i need to confirm...from users;)

[kiolixed]

Symbol issue is fixed... non WWE roms issues i need to confirm...from users;)

so far, i found 2 bugs :
1) this app cannot hide sent message
2) cannot delete hide msg in app

[mohitsapru]

so far, i found 2 bugs :
1) this app cannot hide sent message
2) cannot delete hide msg in app

hiding sent message is not a bug i suppose as i am not doing anything with sent messages.

for other one also it is not a bug i have not just implemented it for now. i may do it in other release as i am a bit busy for now. u may read the faqs where i have mentioned it.
keep reporting bugs / enhancements that can be added.:rolleyes:

thanks

[kiolixed]

hiding sent message is not a bug i suppose as i am not doing anything with sent messages.

for other one also it is not a bug i have not just implemented it for now. i may do it in other release as i am a bit busy for now. u may read the faqs where i have mentioned it.
keep reporting bugs / enhancements that can be added.:rolleyes:

thanks

could u put password when to show hidden msg in app?

[mohitsapru]

could u put password when to show hidden msg in app?

suggestion included in todo list of first post...

[brianpog]

Im using Verzio Envi , WM6
When I RunRules it just hung up then nothing happens. I have another SMS filter called Celsoft , do you think its a conflict ?

[mohitsapru]

Im using Verzio Envi , WM6
When I RunRules it just hung up then nothing happens. I have another SMS filter called Celsoft , do you think its a conflict ?

Not sure never used Celsoft... well if you already have a filter app then whaz the use for other one...:confused:

well are you able to run createrules app... any problem running it?

[brianpog]

You apps was better compare to that one , right now im trying to uninstall the Celsoft and install yours.

[mohitsapru]

You apps was better compare to that one , right now im trying to uninstall the Celsoft and install yours.

Thanks, just lemme know of the results... ;)

[brianpog]

Ive uninstalled Celsoft and it work this time. I think its a software conflict

[fearless139]

great app! but how to move notification message? There's no contact for notification :-??

[mohitsapru]

Ive uninstalled Celsoft and it work this time. I think its a software conflict

Well good to know that u resolved the issue... but not sure why there is a conflict...:confused:

[mohitsapru]

great app! but how to move notification message? There's no contact for notification :-??

so WHaT doeS your notification message contain in senders part... i have disabled my notification messages so dont know abt that well i will try that....:o

edit:
i just enabled the notification messages. i believe u meant sent message notification...well in that case i can select contact as system administrator and apply any rule to it. and u can fetch any contact whether it is in ur contact list or not, from contacts from messages dropdown list(it's default option).

[fearless139]

thanks, this's better than other shareware :)
but I hope you'll improve UI in future :)

[krups]

Hi Mohit,

This is very nice app. I was searching for auto hiding certain SMS or something related around last year, but no luck, so I coded very roughly and currently using it.

If you had developed this application last year, I would not have tried and coded it, instead used this app directly, hehe :D Good Job!

Regarding hiding SMS, I did some weird thing but its working. I replied you on the topic in CodeProject forum.

Did you find something to create new message in specific folder using this MAPI .net wrapper? Actually I wanted to intercept incoming message using .NET message interceptor (with NotifyAndDelete option) and then copy this intercepted message in to specific folder using MAPI.NET wrapper. I want this because, I don't want application to be running all the time.

Happy Coding!
Krupal

[mohitsapru]

Hi Mohit,

This is very nice app. I was searching for auto hiding certain SMS or something related around last year, but no luck, so I coded very roughly and currently using it.

If you had developed this application last year, I would not have tried and coded it, instead used this app directly, hehe :D Good Job!

Regarding hiding SMS, I did some weird thing but its working. I replied you on the topic in CodeProject forum.

Did you find something to create new message in specific folder using this MAPI .net wrapper? Actually I wanted to intercept incoming message using .NET message interceptor (with NotifyAndDelete option) and then copy this intercepted message in to specific folder using MAPI.NET wrapper. I want this because, I don't want application to be running all the time.

Happy Coding!
Krupal

Thanks Krupal,

regarding moving a message to new folder u can set the move option to true in copy message method.(if i got u correct),then u can just move the message to the desired folder.
And about notifyanddelete option i am not using it since i have to apply rules according to user preference so i am just using Notify option and using that start an application that will take care of message handling. this application will run and exit after processing the messages.
the caller application (messageinterceptor) will trigger automatically even if the application is not running.

if this is what u want please let me know i can provide u with further details.

and thanks for that message hiding hint... well since Jugad is India's invention this could have been expected from an Indain only :cool:
well i will try it out but dont think will add it in existing app. maybe next time... since my phone touchscreen is not working... so wont be able to test it much.

[krups]

Thanks Krupal,

regarding moving a message to new folder u can set the move option to true in copy message method.(if i got u correct),then u can just move the message to the desired folder.
And about notifyanddelete option i am not using it since i have to apply rules according to user preference so i am just using Notify option and using that start an application that will take care of message handling. this application will run and exit after processing the messages.
the caller application (messageinterceptor) will trigger automatically even if the application is not running.

if this is what u want please let me know i can provide u with further details.

and thanks for that message hiding hint... well since Jugad is India's invention this could have been expected from an Indain only :cool:
well i will try it out but dont think will add it in existing app. maybe next time... since my phone touchscreen is not working... so wont be able to test it much.

Sorry to hear your phone's touchscreen is not working :(

:) Actually, for moving message i use the same thing you described. But I need to create a message in specified folder rather than moving. Currently I m doing the same way you mentioned, like using notify option and then moving message with triggered application. The issue with this is, other message parsing applications like manila or s2u2 will bring up this message on the screen which we intended to hide, also, message will be come in to inbox and this will make new sms ringtone notification; instead i want to handle notification my self :)

[mohitsapru]

Sorry to hear your phone's touchscreen is not working :(

:) Actually, for moving message i use the same thing you described. But I need to create a message in specified folder rather than moving. Currently I m doing the same way you mentioned, like using notify option and then moving message with triggered application. The issue with this is, other message parsing applications like manila or s2u2 will bring up this message on the screen which we intended to hide, also, message will be come in to inbox and this will make new sms ringtone notification; instead i want to handle notification my self :)

Just a clarification/confirmation.. do you want to move each and every message, as notify and delete will delete all the new messages.(if i am not wrong) so we need to handle all new messages.

edit: was going thru some forums where i read this (http://forums.asp.net/t/1182007.aspx) check the last one. seems my understanding was not correct for notifyanddelete option and according to him this should do the job. Right?

Well saw your shake app... seems awesome. :D I have elf ;) cant use :D

[krups]

Just a clarification/confirmation.. do you want to move each and every message, as notify and delete will delete all the new messages.(if i am not wrong) so we need to handle all new messages.

Well saw your shake app... seems awesome. :D I have elf ;) cant use :D

Thanks for the compliments! :)

It seems there is some confusion. Let me explain in detail:

I want to hide all incoming SMS arrived from specific number. So I have created message intercept on specific number. Currently I am using notify option, which takes the message in to inbox and after that I move this message using MAPI.NET wrapper to hidden folder. But as this takes message to inbox, other message parsing apps like manila (tf3d) and S2U2 brings up this new sms on the screen. Instead I want to intercept new message (with notify and delete) in such a way that it never goes to inbox instead i want it directly to be moved to hidden folder.

If I use notify and delete option, on message interception event I get full new SMS, but I am not able to find out a way to copy this new SMS in to hidden folder. If there is some method in MAPI to create a message in specific folder, this could be achieved. Are you aware of such method? Also I don't want to store message in some other db or file. I want it in hidden folder at message store itself.

Hope this time it is more clear :)

Thanks for helping me out.

[mohitsapru]

Thanks for the compliments! :)

It seems there is some confusion. Let me explain in detail:

I want to hide all incoming SMS arrived from specific number. So I have created message intercept on specific number. Currently I am using notify option, which takes the message in to inbox and after that I move this message using MAPI.NET wrapper to hidden folder. But as this takes message to inbox, other message parsing apps like manila (tf3d) and S2U2 brings up this new sms on the screen. Instead I want to intercept new message (with notify and delete) in such a way that it never goes to inbox instead i want it directly to be moved to hidden folder.

If I use notify and delete option, on message interception event I get full new SMS, but I am not able to find out a way to copy this new SMS in to hidden folder. If there is some method in MAPI to create a message in specific folder, this could be achieved. Are you aware of such method? Also I don't want to store message in some other db or file. I want it in hidden folder at message store itself.

Hope this time it is more clear :)

Thanks for helping me out.

Thanks for clearing it out. will try and let u know. by the way have u asked robert from MAPI.NET maybe he can suggest some thing. as i also wanted to do same for my application.
Well will try again and if u get some thing from your end please let me know.

Thanks

[ajhvdb]

Hi, is this open source? i'm new to developing and are very interested how you created this.. I looked at another great open source application "RemoteTracker". It intercept also SMS's but it has a problem intercepting the SMS on a HD2.

[mohitsapru]

Hi, is this open source? i'm new to developing and are very interested how you created this.. I looked at another great open source application "RemoteTracker". It intercept also SMS's but it has a problem intercepting the SMS on a HD2.

It is a freeware since it uses an opensource library. Will be glad to help you, there are lot of examples you can find regarding message interception. i have also learned from there.
so if you want to know something please let me know

[ajhvdb]

RemoteTracker is completely written in C# and uses the concept of the "wait for change receive SMS" (notification broker). Somehow on the HD2 it is intercepted by HTC SMS handler. I looked at another open source application "ReRemind", this is written in VB and C# but a C++ service is running in the background and doing this waiting. It has no problems intercepting the change on "incoming call" and "wakeup". I'm a little bit lost which method/code is better to use.

I will send you a PM with my email address.

[DuMnUt101]

I couldn't figure out how to do it, so if its possible I apologize and hope you can tell me how to do it. If its not possible than take it as a suggestion.

So here the deal:
I forward some of my emails to my phone, because I don't use the account very often other than for the thing that gets forwarded to my phone. So when I get a message its from sender 1001010203 and each time I get a new message from that account it goes up so 1001010204, 205, 206 etc..

So I wanted to create a rule where I could auto-move/delete anything with contact of 1001010* to catch all that are like that.

What do you think?

Thanks in a advance.

[mohitsapru]

I couldn't figure out how to do it, so if its possible I apologize and hope you can tell me how to do it. If its not possible than take it as a suggestion.

So here the deal:
I forward some of my emails to my phone, because I don't use the account very often other than for the thing that gets forwarded to my phone. So when I get a message its from sender 1001010203 and each time I get a new message from that account it goes up so 1001010204, 205, 206 etc..

So I wanted to create a rule where I could auto-move/delete anything with contact of 1001010* to catch all that are like that.

What do you think?

Thanks in a advance.

Thanks for trying out.
well to be frank this was possible with the very early release of this app. i thought of including it in my existing app but missed it. it is not a big deal. so if possible i will surely add it when i get time.

[slackdna]

hi, first of all thx for a great job well done :)

I've some question though, I'm using windows mobile 6.1 standard with both .net 2 and 3.5 installed, but I couldn't get this program to work, everytime I start CreateRules, it always throw me an error

"An unexpected error has occurred in CreateRules.exe.
Select Quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more informations"

when I select Details

"CreateRules.exe
NotSupportedException
at Microsoft.AGL.Common.MISC.HandleAr()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control._InitInstance()
...."

is there any other requirement to get this software working on my Samsung C6625 ?

thx a ton!

[mohitsapru]

hi, first of all thx for a great job well done :)

I've some question though, I'm using windows mobile 6.1 standard with both .net 2 and 3.5 installed, but I couldn't get this program to work, everytime I start CreateRules, it always throw me an error

"An unexpected error has occurred in CreateRules.exe.
Select Quit and then restart this program, or select Details for more informations"

when I select Details

"CreateRules.exe
NotSupportedException
at Microsoft.AGL.Common.MISC.HandleAr()
at System.Windows.Forms.Control._InitInstance()
...."

is there any other requirement to get this software working on my Samsung C6625 ?

thx a ton!

Hi slackdna,

So is ur device a touchscreen? also i went thru some forums where i found out that this is basically problem with the type of device.
the app is built for a windows mobile 6 professional device or PocetPC so in other device like classic or smartphone they dont support buttons on forms so this is erroring out as i have buttons on forms.
so If this is the case then i am sorry, cant help u:o but maybe next time i will keep this in mind:rolleyes:.

[mohitsapru]

I couldn't figure out how to do it, so if its possible I apologize and hope you can tell me how to do it. If its not possible than take it as a suggestion.

So here the deal:
I forward some of my emails to my phone, because I don't use the account very often other than for the thing that gets forwarded to my phone. So when I get a message its from sender 1001010203 and each time I get a new message from that account it goes up so 1001010204, 205, 206 etc..

So I wanted to create a rule where I could auto-move/delete anything with contact of 1001010* to catch all that are like that.

What do you think?

Thanks in a advance.

Hi DuMnUt101,

I just went thru the app again and now it seems that it would be a major rework to impliment it. I suggest that why dont u use message filter, i am sure that ur fwd email notifications must have some common text. u can put that as filter.
Thanks,

[slackdna]

Hi slackdna,

So is ur device a touchscreen? also i went thru some forums where i found out that this is basically problem with the type of device.
the app is built for a windows mobile 6 professional device or PocetPC so in other device like classic or smartphone they dont support buttons on forms so this is erroring out as i have buttons on forms.
so If this is the case then i am sorry, cant help u:o but maybe next time i will keep this in mind:rolleyes:.

Ok i get it, its for touch screen device and mine isn't a touch screen device, well ok then, guess I have to look another similar software to do the trick. o btw thx for your answer and keep up the good work !!

[mohitsapru]

SMSRule4.1 is now available.

[Jibreil]

SMSRule4.1 is now available.

v4.1 installed on WinMo6.5 on HTC HD2.

My Rule 1:
Rule Action: HIDE
Contacts From: FIRST NAME
To Folder: Conversations

My Rule 2:
Rule Action: HIDE
Contacts From: MESSAGES
To Folder: Conversations


Possible Bug:
- After adding password, clicking on View Private Folder crashes the app.
- Doesn't recognize names if Contact File As is Last name, First name. Hence fails to HIDE the Message #Applies to RULE 1#
- When select message to HIDE it hides the message from that person under Manila view, but when we click 'All Messages', it displays the Message. #Applies to RULE 2#

Suggestion:
- Contacts from: FIRST NAME -> The contacts should appear in Alphabetical order
- Contacts from: -> It should recognise contacts with FIRST NAME only in the Contact field
- Contracts from: -> It should display contacts with Company name only.

[mohitsapru]

v4.1 installed on WinMo6.5 on HTC HD2.

My Rule 1:
Rule Action: HIDE
Contacts From: FIRST NAME
To Folder: Conversations

My Rule 2:
Rule Action: HIDE
Contacts From: MESSAGES
To Folder: Conversations


Possible Bug:
- After adding password, clicking on View Private Folder crashes the app.
- Doesn't recognize names if Contact File As is Last name, First name. Hence fails to HIDE the Message #Applies to RULE 1#
- When select message to HIDE it hides the message from that person under Manila view, but when we click 'All Messages', it displays the Message. #Applies to RULE 2#

Suggestion:
- Contacts from: FIRST NAME -> The contacts should appear in Alphabetical order
- Contacts from: -> It should recognise contacts with FIRST NAME only in the Contact field
- Contracts from: -> It should display contacts with Company name only.

Thanks Jibreil for testing it.
yes i have tested as per your suggestion and i found some bugs which are there. I think no one tested it:o including me:D(more than 6000 downloads) i just use message contacts which works fine for me/other. well bugs accepted and will be fixed. A REAL THANKS to you.

Regarding the last one about hiding bug i am not sure why this should happen maybe they have fixed something in new outlook. as i have tested it in emulator and my HTC touch and it works just fine. so in detail when when u click all messages where do u see the message? is it in inbox? what happens when u click show private folder, is the hidden message there?
Yes i know u said it crashed the first time, but should work fine the next time u enter the password.

There are lot of questions but just need to know where is the problem.

Thanks,
Mohit

[Jibreil]

Thanks Jibreil for testing it.
yes i have tested as per your suggestion and i found some bugs which are there. I think no one tested it:o including me:D(more than 6000 downloads) i just use message contacts which works fine for me/other. well bugs accepted and will be fixed. A REAL THANKS to you.

Regarding the last one about hiding bug i am not sure why this should happen maybe they have fixed something in new outlook. as i have tested it in emulator and my HTC touch and it works just fine. so in detail when when u click all messages where do u see the message? is it in inbox? what happens when u click show private folder, is the hidden message there?
Yes i know u said it crashed the first time, but should work fine the next time u enter the password.

There are lot of questions but just need to know where is the problem.

Thanks,
Mohit

Hi Mohit,

In HD2 the messages come in 'Conversations', I'm not using the Inbox | Sent Box mode. So when I click on All Messages, the message is there with the default view of Conversations.

When the app crashed it deleted all the rules and resetted itself to the default mode. Hence, the Private folder appeared to be blank.

Even after I uninstalled the SMSRule app, I couldn't see the SMS via Manila but when I clicked All Messages the SMS was there.

Go here: HKLM/Software/Microsoft/.NETCompactFramework. Change the DWORD data of entry 2.0.7045.00 from 1 to 0. Next Change the DWORD data of entry 3.5.7283.00 from 0 to 1 and then reset. This disables 2.0 and enables 3.5.

Have you done the above on your phone? I had not done this RegTweak prior to installing/running your app. Could this be a reason for the Bugs occurring?

Have a couple of questions regarding notifications of SMS's:
-> If I get a SMS which is a part of the Rule I have set to HIDE. How will I be notified? Will I get a normal notification of an incoming SMS OR are you planning to implement a custom notification for the same?
-> If the default notification comes on the Taskbar (on top) will that notification automatically go away after we have read the message from the Private folder?
-> Does your app require the use of .NET Framework Messages 3.5?

Suggestion:
-> Combine the 'Create Rules' & 'Run Rules' into one application.
-> Make the UI more Touch friendly (more of like Resco Explorer 2010)
-> Add a feature that scans the Conversation OR Inbox for existing SMS's after a new Rule is defined. For e.g. if I set a Rule to HIDE ALL SMS's from ABC, then it should scan the SMS box and HIDE ALL SMS's to the Private folder. Make this option Manual rather than Auto.
-> Add a feature to multi select Inbox/Sent Box/Drafts etc. within one rule itself. It's avoids the trouble of creating multiple rules.

P.S. On my Nokia E75 I've been using Private Call&SMS Guard 5.1 by symbianon.com It would be just awesome if you could implement the UI & every single feature of their software and make your software a shareware.

[mohitsapru]

Hi Mohit,

In HD2 the messages come in 'Conversations', I'm not using the Inbox | Sent Box mode. So when I click on All Messages, the message is there with the default view of Conversations.

When the app crashed it deleted all the rules and resetted itself to the default mode. Hence, the Private folder appeared to be blank.

Even after I uninstalled the SMSRule app, I couldn't see the SMS via Manila but when I clicked All Messages the SMS was there.



Have you done the above on your phone? I had not done this RegTweak prior to installing/running your app. Could this be a reason for the Bugs occurring?

Have a couple of questions regarding notifications of SMS's:
-> If I get a SMS which is a part of the Rule I have set to HIDE. How will I be notified? Will I get a normal notification of an incoming SMS OR are you planning to implement a custom notification for the same?
-> If the default notification comes on the Taskbar (on top) will that notification automatically go away after we have read the message from the Private folder?
-> Does your app require the use of .NET Framework Messages 3.5?

Suggestion:
-> Combine the 'Create Rules' & 'Run Rules' into one application.
-> Make the UI more Touch friendly (more of like Resco Explorer 2010)
-> Add a feature that scans the Conversation OR Inbox for existing SMS's after a new Rule is defined. For e.g. if I set a Rule to HIDE ALL SMS's from ABC, then it should scan the SMS box and HIDE ALL SMS's to the Private folder. Make this option Manual rather than Auto.
-> Add a feature to multi select Inbox/Sent Box/Drafts etc. within one rule itself. It's avoids the trouble of creating multiple rules.

P.S. On my Nokia E75 I've been using Private Call&SMS Guard 5.1 by symbianon.com It would be just awesome if you could implement the UI & every single feature of their software and make your software a shareware.


Hey Jibreil thanks again,

well by conversation do you mean threaded mode? as i have a elf and it can have just a normal or threaded mode. so could you just confirm on it.

so well not sure what caused the rules to get deleted as it is stored in a database so a crash should not effect that. and yes uninstalling the app won't restore the smses to normal inbox. and they will remain (hidden well it seems not for u ;)). and i by default have cf3.5 activated in my phone. also it is not necessarly using 3.5framework functionality but since i developed it in VS2008 i just used the latest framework so minimum requirement is 3.5

well regarding notification i will be working very soon.
and suggestions accepted ;) will try to impliment but do not know how much can i do in upgrading UI not have much knowledge on that. ;)
One thing more do u really think first name/last name contact is really needed? I think contact from messages are good enough was thinking to remove it as contact list can grow large but u receive messages from selected ppl.
Thanks again,
Mohit

[Jibreil]

Hey Jibreil thanks again,

well by conversation do you mean threaded mode? as i have a elf and it can have just a normal or threaded mode. so could you just confirm on it.

Yes, I mean Threaded mode, it's called Conversations on HD2... may be you can take a look at it via some of the YouTube videos. The threaded mode of WinMo has been overhauled to give it the 'iPhone' appeal.

so well not sure what caused the rules to get deleted as it is stored in a database so a crash should not effect that. and yes uninstalling the app won't restore the smses to normal inbox. and they will remain (hidden well it seems not for u ;)). and i by default have cf3.5 activated in my phone. also it is not necessarily using 3.5framework functionality but since i developed it in VS2008 i just used the latest framework so minimum requirement is 3.5

I found that quite weird too the crash just restored the app to its default settings.

well regarding notification i will be working very soon.
and suggestions accepted ;) will try to impliment but do not know how much can i do in upgrading UI not have much knowledge on that. ;)
One thing more do u really think first name/last name contact is really needed? I think contact from messages are good enough was thinking to remove it as contact list can grow large but u receive messages from selected ppl.
Thanks again,
Mohit

Thanks, I'm sure the suggestions will do a lot more for you functionality and monetary wise. The only app I've heard that doing it's job is Call SMS Blocker but the catch here is that people needed to switch of Threaded mode for it to work.

The first name/last name contact is needed since many like me who sync our contacts via Microsoft Exchange with Google Sync land up seeing our contacts appearing in Last name/First name format on the phone - even though its listed the other way on GMail. Hence I feel that your app is unable to read the contact data when the SMS arrives.

Having said the above, it's best to keep both options open.

Suggestion:
-> For loading the contacts, avoid using the frame that list all the contacts, rather allow the user to select the contact via the default Contacts application. This will also save on app memory and loading time (for people who have more than 800+ contacts)

[mohitsapru]

Happy New Year to all the XDA MEMBERS Keep rocking... :cool:

[nubibgt]

hmm....when i hide the contact message,the message still appear to my inbox, its still need a time to move it(hide) to private folder....
any other way to direct the hidden message contact to my private folder? hehehe ;)

[mohitsapru]

hmm....when i hide the contact message,the message still appear to my inbox, its still need a time to move it(hide) to private folder....
any other way to direct the hidden message contact to my private folder? hehehe ;)

yes nubibgt i am working over it to find a solution for this. hopefully i could find a solution.

[donfano]

Hi DuMnUt101,

I just went thru the app again and now it seems that it would be a major rework to impliment it. I suggest that why dont u use message filter, i am sure that ur fwd email notifications must have some common text. u can put that as filter.
Thanks,

I am getting sms updates from Facebook, and each new "thread" is received from a contact that starts with, let's say, 12345. The first one was 12345001, and it increments it by one for each following one.

I was hoping that this app would allow me to archive those sms updates into a folder by filtering any contacts that starts with 12345, but I just found your note that this cannot be done.

I already thought of using message filter, but these numbers are not in the messages.

Any other suggestions?

[mohitsapru]

I am getting sms updates from Facebook, and each new "thread" is received from a contact that starts with, let's say, 12345. The first one was 12345001, and it increments it by one for each following one.

I was hoping that this app would allow me to archive those sms updates into a folder by filtering any contacts that starts with 12345, but I just found your note that this cannot be done.

I already thought of using message filter, but these numbers are not in the messages.

Any other suggestions?


Hi donfano,

ur problem has been fixed. now u can add custom number formats using Contacts from: option "*CARD #" u can enter the number format and choose the folder to filter those messages.

[mohitsapru]

Changes in 4.2
1. Autorun option stops wm default notification and provides custom notifications for the rules applied. Unchecking Autorun starts wm notification.
2. Contact names are now in order.
3. First Name last name rules now working.
4. One more option added to add wildcard numbers. to match common format numbers.
5. Some minor fixes.

[ajhvdb]

Hi, is this open source too? Would love to see how things are done.

[donfano]

Hi donfano,

ur problem has been fixed. now u can add custom number formats using Contacts from: option "*CARD #" u can enter the number format and choose the folder to filter those messages.

That's awesome!:) You know what? I was about to uninstall your software from my mobile.:rolleyes:

I will give the new version a try today and will let you know if I am running into any problem. Well, I will let you know either way.

Cheers,

[mohitsapru]

Hi, is this open source too? Would love to see how things are done.

Hi ajhvd,
well my code is all logic so i can just help u out if u have some issues. all the work done is take from internet. Accessing SMS folder is done using the dll from the MAPI.NET project(link in first post) and it is an open source and very usefull if u want to start some thing.

[mohitsapru]

That's awesome!:) You know what? I was about to uninstall your software from my mobile.:rolleyes:

I will give the new version a try today and will let you know if I am running into any problem. Well, I will let you know either way.

Cheers,

Hey nice to know this donfano,
hope this fixes ur problem
let me know if it does thanks for trying out :D

[donfano]

Hey nice to know this donfano,
hope this fixes ur problem
let me know if it does thanks for trying out :D

Good news, Mohit! This fixed my problem. Thank you very much!:)

I was just wondering if you could add a horizontal scroll bar in the Add Contact list view, so I can see the rest of the name. I have few people who have the same last name, and I need to see the first name to know which is which. I think it would help also if the names are not listed all in uppercase. Perhaps, the first letter should be in uppercase.

Since you are open for new ideas, I was wondering if you can consider some of mine:
+ the possibility to apply rules on other folders (on Sent Items folder to start with)
+ a feature to move/copy a whole thread (Inbox + Sent items) to a folder

Thanks,

[gabfus]

Hi, good work, its good program.

its possible to create a rule with Category of contacts?
ex. Friend, Family etc?

When I select a contact its possible to have a LastName and FirstName ex. Bill Gates and not Bill only or gates only; I have more friends with same lastname.

Thanks

[mohitsapru]

Hi, good work, its good program.

its possible to create a rule with Category of contacts?
ex. Friend, Family etc?

When I select a contact its possible to have a LastName and FirstName ex. Bill Gates and not Bill only or gates only; I have more friends with same lastname.

Thanks

Hi gabfus,

this is a very straight fwd app which helps u to sort ur messages from ur SMS inbox. there is no such option in it which u can use the contact category. well this is the first such request so i never thought abt it and lot of ppl want their smses to be sorted in a different way so i have kept it simple.

well abt displaying of contact names i have just kept 3 options(4th one added in 4.2 release) where u can select ur contact from messages, by first/last or user defined number or name string.
personally i feel contacts from messages is best as u can filter those specific contacts who regularly sms u.any ways i will just keep this in mind for the next release.
Thanks for trying.

[mohitsapru]

Good news, Mohit! This fixed my problem. Thank you very much!:)

I was just wondering if you could add a horizontal scroll bar in the Add Contact list view, so I can see the rest of the name. I have few people who have the same last name, and I need to see the first name to know which is which. I think it would help also if the names are not listed all in uppercase. Perhaps, the first letter should be in uppercase.

Since you are open for new ideas, I was wondering if you can consider some of mine:
+ the possibility to apply rules on other folders (on Sent Items folder to start with)
+ a feature to move/copy a whole thread (Inbox + Sent items) to a folder

Thanks,

Good to know this donfano,
well i was also thinking same about adding a horizontal scroll but due to time constraints couldn't do it may be next time.

the other two options are also nice. maybe u will see them next time. ;)

Keep it installed :D
Thanks,

[donfano]

Good to know this donfano,
well i was also thinking same about adding a horizontal scroll but due to time constraints couldn't do it may be next time.

the other two options are also nice. maybe u will see them next time. ;)

Keep it installed :D
Thanks,

This is definitely a keeper... thanks to the new features! I look forward in the next release:)

Thanks,

[gabfus]

Thanks for response.

Hi gabfus,

this is a very straight fwd app which helps u to sort ur messages from ur SMS inbox. there is no such option in it which u can use the contact category. well this is the first such request so i never thought abt it and lot of ppl want their smses to be sorted in a different way so i have kept it simple.

well abt displaying of contact names i have just kept 3 options(4th one added in 4.2 release) where u can select ur contact from messages, by first/last or user defined number or name string.
personally i feel contacts from messages is best as u can filter those specific contacts who regularly sms u.any ways i will just keep this in mind for the next release.
Thanks for trying.

[Dutch-AK47]

I have HTC TOUCH HD.
Missing most entries on the list of contacts!
I cant create rule for that contacts :(
What now?
Thx

[mohitsapru]

I have HTC TOUCH HD.
Missing most entries on the list of contacts!
I cant create rule for that contacts :(
What now?
Thx

I didnt get exactly what u mean by missing entries. do you mean you have entries in ur outlook contacts(not sim) but those are not getting populated in the applications contact list?

Well for your question the answer is yes, in V4.2 there is an option to select wildcard contact ie u can provide the full number, number pattern or a name, but be aware that *CARD # option will apply rule to all the contacts which fulfills the match criteria. If i give match string as 98848, it will filter all the numbers which contains(anywhere) 98848 string and its same with the name.
so use it carefully to avoid unwanted filters.

Thanks,
Mohit

[donfano]

Hi Mohit,

I ran into a problem, and I hope you can help me to resolve it. The first time I tried the hiding rule, I got the report showing that one message has been hidden. I went to look at the PRIVATE folder, and it was empty. The message was nowhere to be found. I thought back then that I probably did something wrong.

I ran a test last night again, and this time it worked fine. My message got hidden and stored in the PRIVATE folder.

Today:
1. deleted the existing rule
2. started a new rule
3. received 2 messages that got hidden automatically
4. opened the PRIVATE folder from SMS Rules --> it was empty. Then, I noticed there are 2 unread messages in Deleted Items
5. opened the Deleted Items --> my 2 messages were found there (???)
6. closed WM Mail & SMS Rules
7. opened WM Mail
8. opened the Deleted Items --> folder is empty!
9. closed WM Mail
10. opened SMS Rules
11. opened the PRIVATE folder --> folder is still empty!
12. opened the Deleted Items --> folder is also empty, and the 2 messages are nowhere to be found

[mohitsapru]

Thanks for Testing,
Will check out it today

Hi Mohit,

I ran into a problem, and I hope you can help me to resolve it. The first time I tried the hiding rule, I got the report showing that one message has been hidden. I went to look at the PRIVATE folder, and it was empty. The message was nowhere to be found. I thought back then that I probably did something wrong.

I ran a test last night again, and this time it worked fine. My message got hidden and stored in the PRIVATE folder.

[drs_sa]

thanks
it is so helpful program, but not compatible with hd2, can u fix that bc the size of program on hd2 small.
thanks in advance

[mohitsapru]

thanks
it is so helpful program, but not compatible with hd2, can u fix that bc the size of program on hd2 small.
thanks in advance

is the size only a problem or is it not working?
can u also provide some screen shots?

[mohitsapru]

Hi donfano,

I tried ur steps but it is working fine:confused:
I did as u have suggested, but that worked normally for me. well i tried it in my emulator and since i have lot of messages in my elfs PRIVATE folder cant delete that:D well i will try to do it later on my device. i suppose we both have same devices:HTC elf.

One more thing just to clarify did u let the app create the PRIVATE folder or u manually created it? and did u set the app to autorun mode or manually ran it to filter messages? :o

Hi Mohit,

I ran into a problem, and I hope you can help me to resolve it. The first time I tried the hiding rule, I got the report showing that one message has been hidden. I went to look at the PRIVATE folder, and it was empty. The message was nowhere to be found. I thought back then that I probably did something wrong.

I ran a test last night again, and this time it worked fine. My message got hidden and stored in the PRIVATE folder.

Today:
1. deleted the existing rule
2. started a new rule
3. received 2 messages that got hidden automatically
4. opened the PRIVATE folder from SMS Rules --> it was empty. Then, I noticed there are 2 unread messages in Deleted Items
5. opened the Deleted Items --> my 2 messages were found there (???)
6. closed WM Mail & SMS Rules
7. opened WM Mail
8. opened the Deleted Items --> folder is empty!
9. closed WM Mail
10. opened SMS Rules
11. opened the PRIVATE folder --> folder is still empty!
12. opened the Deleted Items --> folder is also empty, and the 2 messages are nowhere to be found

[donfano]

Hi donfano,

I tried ur steps but it is working fine:confused:
I did as u have suggested, but that worked normally for me. well i tried it in my emulator and since i have lot of messages in my elfs PRIVATE folder cant delete that:D well i will try to do it later on my device. i suppose we both have same devices:HTC elf.

One more thing just to clarify did u let the app create the PRIVATE folder or u manually created it? and did u set the app to autorun mode or manually ran it to filter messages? :o

You might want to put your tests on hold because I cannot reproduce the problem anymore.:rolleyes: I will run more tests during the day and will let you know.

To answer your questions:
1. I am using HTC Vogue. Believe it or not! I had to google for it because it is simply called HTC Touch in this side of the world.:D I will add the info in my signature:cool:
2. I let the app create the PRIVATE folder
3. I set the app to autorun mode

[kiolixed]

in next release, could u add following features:

1) hide also sent msg
2) shorcuts to show hidden msg

[mohitsapru]

in next release, could u add following features:

1) hide also sent msg
2) shorcuts to show hidden msg

I am already working on the first one, second one i have to think... it will take time as i may have to create a new application for it

[donfano]

You might want to put your tests on hold because I cannot reproduce the problem anymore.:rolleyes: I will run more tests during the day and will let you know.

Can't reproduce the problem anymore!:confused: I will let you know if I ever run into the same problem with a way to reproduce it.

Thanks,

[donfano]

I am already working on the first one, second one i have to think... it will take time as i may have to create a new application for it

Mohit - It's great that you are working on the first one, as that seems to be the same feature I requested also. Thanks!

I noticed that when your app is intercepting the incoming sms, it takes all the CPU usage and shows the animated busy cursor. Is that normal? Can't it be more transparent?

[mohitsapru]

Yes donfano i am working on the features you have suggested, adding scroll bar to the contact names is completed.
well regarding the performance that is normal; i had made some modification for performance issue but they don't seem to be working. any ways I will be doing some further changes to make it low on CPU. Hope they work out:o

Thanks,

Mohit - It's great that you are working on the first one, as that seems to be the same feature I requested also. Thanks!

I noticed that when your app is intercepting the incoming sms, it takes all the CPU usage and shows the animated busy cursor. Is that normal? Can't it be more transparent?

[mohitsapru]

Can't reproduce the problem anymore!:confused: I will let you know if I ever run into the same problem with a way to reproduce it.

Thanks,

Can this be a possibility that may be you had defined some rules that were conflicting. Like one message rule and one contact rule! Just wondering:rolleyes:

[donfano]

Can this be a possibility that may be you had defined some rules that were conflicting. Like one message rule and one contact rule! Just wondering:rolleyes:

I only had one rule at a time, as I am still on testing mode:rolleyes:

By the way, I almost went crazy yesterday trying to figure out what happened to my sms threading. Sometimes, it was on, and sometimes not:confused:. I did not stop turning on and off the registry key for it and rebooted several times....... UNTIL:eek:.... I noticed that the sms threading is turned off when your app is on autorun. Dude, you could have told me!:D I think it would be nice to have this documented before someone else would go crazy over it.

[mohitsapru]

I only had one rule at a time, as I am still on testing mode:rolleyes:

By the way, I almost went crazy yesterday trying to figure out what happened to my sms threading. Sometimes, it was on, and sometimes not:confused:. I did not stop turning on and off the registry key for it and rebooted several times....... UNTIL:eek:.... I noticed that the sms threading is turned off when your app is on autorun. Dude, you could have told me!:D I think it would be nice to have this documented before someone else would go crazy over it.


noooo:confused: i have not changed any thing related to threaded messages. the only thing i modified in registry was the notification. I am disabling the SMS notification when in autorun mode.
The key which i change is
[ HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s ]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:1/0

for thread mode i have
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM
"SMSInbozThreadingDisabled" 1
which i dont change using my app

and this i have mentioned in first post.(just that i am disabling the notification ion autorun)
so what key you change to enable/disable thread mode?

[donfano]

noooo:confused: i have not changed any thing related to threaded messages. the only thing i modified in registry was the notification. I am disabling the SMS notification when in autorun mode.
The key which i cahnge is
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:1

and this i have mentioned in first post.(just that i am disabling the notification ion autorun)
so what key you change to enable/disable thread mode?

I have the autorun off now, and the threading is on. I am turning the autorun on now, and the threading is off.

If I look at the registry:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:0

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s\OEM]
"SMSInboxThreadingDisabled"=dword:0

I am turning the autorun off, and I am looking at the registry:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:1

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s\OEM]
"SMSInboxThreadingDisabled"=dword:0

Hmmm...:confused:... How is the threading affected when the value of SMSInboxThreadingDisabled remained unchanged?!?? I probably "broke" something with all the hacking I did yesterday. I need to backtrack... Anyway, this is not your problem! It's mine, so I'll figure this one out by myself. Thanks and sorry for blaming your app!

[mohitsapru]

I have the autorun off now, and the threading is on. I am turning the autorun on now, and the threading is off.

If I look at the registry:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:0

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s\OEM]
"SMSInboxThreadingDisabled"=dword:0

I am turning the autorun off, and I am looking at the registry:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:1

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s\OEM]
"SMSInboxThreadingDisabled"=dword:0

Hmmm...:confused:... How is the threading affected when the value of SMSInboxThreadingDisabled remained unchanged?!?? I probably "broke" something with all the hacking I did yesterday. I need to backtrack... Anyway, this is not your problem! It's mine, so I'll figure this one out by myself. Thanks and sorry for blaming your app!

no prob take a look at this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368046)
I have started to learn:o

[donfano]

no prob take a look at this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368046)
I have started to learn:o

I have run several tests, and my conclusion is that disabling WM notification, i.e.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:0

also causes the threading to be off.

[mohitsapru]

I have run several tests, and my conclusion is that disabling WM notification, i.e.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s]
"SMSAvailable"=dword:0

also causes the threading to be off.

hmmm so no one is responsible... :D
ny suggestions... :o

[donfano]

hmmm so no one is responsible... :D
ny suggestions... :o

We should blame MS for confusing all of us... :D

Thinking....:o

The purpose of stopping the WM default notification is to display your custom notifications for the rules applied. Right?! I was thinking that there must be another registry key to turn off the VM default notification. I am referring to the "Display message on screen" option that can be turned off from Start > Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications > Event: Messaging: New Text message

[mohitsapru]

V4.3 is out with 2 new features and one new shortcut.

[mohitsapru]

We should blame MS for confusing all of us... :D

Thinking....:o

The purpose of stopping the WM default notification is to display your custom notifications for the rules applied. Right?! I was thinking that there must be another registry key to turn off the VM default notification. I am referring to the "Display message on screen" option that can be turned off from Start > Settings > Sounds & Notifications > Notifications > Event: Messaging: New Text message

Hi Donfano,

this suggestion has been implemented in 4.3. But before you test 4.3 plz ensure that you uncheck the Autorun option from4.2, aslo plz confirm if this mod is working.

[mohitsapru]

in next release, could u add following features:

1) hide also sent msg
2) shorcuts to show hidden msg

Requests Implemented

now you can apply rules to other folders also.
and a new shortcut is created to directly show/hide private folder

[donfano]

Hi Donfano,

this suggestion has been implemented in 4.3. But before you test 4.3 plz ensure that you uncheck the Autorun option from4.2, aslo plz confirm if this mod is working.

I'll be more than glad to test.:)

I just hope you didn't have sleepless nights just to get this version out!:rolleyes:

[mohitsapru]

Mohit - It's great that you are working on the first one, as that seems to be the same feature I requested also. Thanks!

I noticed that when your app is intercepting the incoming sms, it takes all the CPU usage and shows the animated busy cursor. Is that normal? Can't it be more transparent?

The time for busy cursor has been reduced, now you should not see a lot of activity when a message is intercepted.

[mohitsapru]

I'll be more than glad to test.:)

I just hope you didn't have sleepless nights just to get this version out!:rolleyes:

Hmm well kind of sleepless night but compensated with sleepy day.:D
Please test especially the notification part for you as i am not sure it is valid for all devices.

[donfano]

Hmm well kind of sleepless night but compensated with sleepy day.:D
Please test especially the notification part for you as i am not sure it is valid for all devices.

Mohit - I have more good news than bad news!:o

Let's start with the good ones::)
+ The change with the disabling/enabling of the NW notifications works for me!:)
+ Thanks for the horizontal scrollbar added to the contact list! It's very helpful.
+ The new shortcut to access the private folder is very very helpful. Thank you!
+ There is a good improvement in the time for busy cursor. Thank you!

Now the bad news::(
I'm having the problem to retrieve my hidden sms again. Here are the steps I took:
1. installed 4.3 without any problem - 4.2 got uninstalled without any problem
2. created a rule to hide sms from someone
3. set autorun
4. closed app
5. ran rule using shortcut
6. read notification that says 1 sms got hidden
7. opened private sms shortcut -> password failed
8. closed private sms window
9. opened create rules shortcut
10. went to About > Menu > Personal > Show - I got prompted for new password, and that would explain problem at step 7
11. typed in new password - it did not ask me to enter password again for confirmation!!!
12. closed app
13. received 1 sms to be hidden
14. read notification that says 1 sms got hidden
15. opened private sms shortcut -> very handy!!! :)
16. looked at PRIVATE folder - the folder is empty, and the sms is not found anywhere
17. closed tmail
18. closed private sms
19. received 1 sms to be hidden
20. read notification that says 1 sms got hidden
21. opened private sms shortcut
22. found the hidden sms in Deleted Items folder
23. closed tmail
24. closed private sms
25. received 1 sms to be hidden
26. read notification that says 1 sms got hidden
27. opened private sms - PRIVATE and Deleted Items folders are empty

28. disabled autorun
29. did a soft reset
30. enabled autorun
31. received 1 sms to be hidden
32. read notification that says 1 sms got hidden
33. opened private sms - it was found in the Deleted Items folder


I have a question about the new feature under Tools. You replied to another user that now he can apply rules to other folders also. I do not see how that can be done. I see Archive and Filter folders that can be selected, but then I have the options to click on the Filter button or Archive button. There is no option for me to select, which rules I would like to apply on these selected folders. Perhaps, this is totally different to what I have requested.

My request was to be able to apply rules on Sent Items where I would like to move or copy sms sent to someone. At the moment, rules are applied to Inbox for incoming sms.

Thanks,

[mohitsapru]

11. typed in new password - it did not ask me to enter password again for confirmation!!!
Confirmation password is asked only when changing the password :o

12. closed app
13. received 1 sms to be hidden
14. read notification that says 1 sms got hidden
15. opened private sms shortcut -> very handy!!! :)
16. looked at PRIVATE folder - the folder is empty, and the sms is not found anywhere
17. closed tmail
18. closed private sms
19. received 1 sms to be hidden
20. read notification that says 1 sms got hidden
21. opened private sms shortcut
22. found the hidden sms in Deleted Items folder
23. closed tmail
24. closed private sms
25. received 1 sms to be hidden
26. read notification that says 1 sms got hidden
27. opened private sms - PRIVATE and Deleted Items folders are empty

28. disabled autorun
29. did a soft reset
30. enabled autorun
31. received 1 sms to be hidden
32. read notification that says 1 sms got hidden
33. opened private sms - it was found in the Deleted Items folder

Thanks for the details. Seems it happens when a brand new installation is done. One more question when u uninstall does rule.db also gets deleted? all the rules and password are stored there, since you said it asked you for the password again; did you delete the whole folder or it automatically deletes it?


I have a question about the new feature under Tools. You replied to another user that now he can apply rules to other folders also. I do not see how that can be done. I see Archive and Filter folders that can be selected, but then I have the options to click on the Filter button or Archive button. There is no option for me to select, which rules I would like to apply on these selected folders. Perhaps, this is totally different to what I have requested.
By applying the rules to other folder i meant that it will apply all the rules which were created by the user for inbox. There is no such provision as of now too apply specific rules for different folders. It will filter other folders with same rules as for Inbox and it wont autorun it is manual.

My request was to be able to apply rules on Sent Items where I would like to move or copy sms sent to someone. At the moment, rules are applied to Inbox for incoming sms.
The custom folder rules will not autorun application will keep filtering the inbox only. Filtering custom folder is only manual.

Thanks,[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the details i will work on it soon.

[donfano]

Confirmation password is asked only when changing the password


I think it would be a good idea to confirm for new password as well. This avoids unfortunate typos.:)

Thanks for the details. Seems it happens when a brand new installation is done. One more question when u uninstall does rule.db also gets deleted? all the rules and password are stored there, since you said it asked you for the password again; did you delete the whole folder or it automatically deletes it?

I did not delete anything. The uninstall must have deleted the rule.db file.

By applying the rules to other folder i meant that it will apply all the rules which were created by the user for inbox. There is no such provision as of now too apply specific rules for different folders. It will filter other folders with same rules as for Inbox and it wont autorun it is manual.

I think I understand what you are saying, but I will need to run a test to see if this is what I think I need.

Thanks for the details i will work on it soon.

Until then, I might need to abstain from hiding any important sms.:rolleyes:

[mohitsapru]

I think it would be a good idea to confirm for new password as well. This avoids unfortunate typos.:)



I did not delete anything. The uninstall must have deleted the rule.db file.



I think I understand what you are saying, but I will need to run a test to see if this is what I think I need.



Until then, I might need to abstain from hiding any important sms.:rolleyes:

I tried it. I emptied my private sms folder and ran it. But works fine for me!!! :confused: tried several times several ways... still runs fine... i m trying to fail myself LOL... :)
also when i uninstall my old version the rules.db remains there so i don't have to create my rules again.:cool:
Since rules.db it is not in cab, it gets generated when app is started so it should not get deleted when uninstalled. dont know why it gets removed from your device.

Well now i am gonna test it on my emulator.

[GR6813X]

Very good job is what I was looking for a long time.
Is there any way to change the language?
xml, ini or similar it would be interesting to change it.
Thank you.

[mohitsapru]

Very good job is what I was looking for a long time.
Is there any way to change the language?
xml, ini or similar it would be interesting to change it.
Thank you.

Sorry there is no option till now. I am concentrating just on functionality for the time being. Maybe when it is stable we can look into this.

[mohitsapru]

I tried it. I emptied my private sms folder and ran it. But works fine for me!!! :confused: tried several times several ways... still runs fine... i m trying to fail myself LOL... :)
also when i uninstall my old version the rules.db remains there so i don't have to create my rules again.:cool:
Since rules.db it is not in cab, it gets generated when app is started so it should not get deleted when uninstalled. dont know why it gets removed from your device.

Well now i am gonna test it on my emulator.

Tried again on emulators... still working...LOL

[donfano]

Tried again on emulators... still working...LOL

I uninstalled the app completely to reinstall it from scratch. I did not keep the rule.db file because I wanted to start with a clean install. I followed similar steps as I did last time, and this time I seem to get a consistent result as follows:
1. the rule intercepts the sms to be hidden
2. the rule reports the sms is hidden
3. opening the private sms shows the sms is stored in the Deleted Items folder instead of the PRIVATE folder
4. reopening the private sms shows the sms is neither in these two folders.

The behaviour I am seeing makes me think of how the message gets destroyed in the Mission Impossible movies:p... "This message will be destroyed (instead of stating the number of seconds) after you close this app":D

[mohitsapru]

May be it doesnt work in threaded mode...:confused: are you having thread mode enabled??
If yes could you try with disabling it first:o
Lemme know... i think i have mentioned this as a bug in first post. This will confirm it.:p

I uninstalled the app completely to reinstall it from scratch. I did not keep the rule.db file because I wanted to start with a clean install. I followed similar steps as I did last time, and this time I seem to get a consistent result as follows:
1. the rule intercepts the sms to be hidden
2. the rule reports the sms is hidden
3. opening the private sms shows the sms is stored in the Deleted Items folder instead of the PRIVATE folder
4. reopening the private sms shows the sms is neither in these two folders.

The behaviour I am seeing makes me think of how the message gets destroyed in the Mission Impossible movies:p... "This message will be destroyed (instead of stating the number of seconds) after you close this app":D

[donfano]

May be it doesnt work in threaded mode...:confused: are you having thread mode enabled??
If yes could you try with disabling it first:o
Lemme know... i think i have mentioned this as a bug in first post. This will confirm it.:p

Of course I do have the thread mode enabled!:) That was the whole issue when I reported to you that when your app disabled the WM notifications, it also disabled the thread mode. Remember?:D

I will give it a try to disable the thread mode and see if the hiding rule works.

[donfano]

Of course I do have the thread mode enabled!:) That was the whole issue when I reported to you that when your app disabled the WM notifications, it also disabled the thread mode. Remember?:D

I will give it a try to disable the thread mode and see if the hiding rule works.

I just ran a test, and it works if the thread mode is disabled.:o The way you disabled the WM notifications before does disable the thread mode automatically. Why can't this work with thread mode enabled? I mean right now it does work, but it is just placed in the wrong folder.:confused:

[mohitsapru]

I just ran a test, and it works if the thread mode is disabled.:o The way you disabled the WM notifications before does disable the thread mode automatically. Why can't this work with thread mode enabled? I mean right now it does work, but it is just placed in the wrong folder.:confused:

hmm no idea well need to run some test on my device then. It seems something :confused: gets modified when we change the message mode. No idea:o
Well i was using some ideas from other developer who used this trick to hide the SMSes maybe he or the developer who made the mapinet lib can point something... lezz see

[GR6813X]

Sorry there is no option till now. I am concentrating just on functionality for the time being. Maybe when it is stable we can look into this.

It was just a suggestion but of course first is the functionality.

Thanks for your great work. :)

[nex7er]

Can you auto-reply sms to certain contacts with this?

Example: You get into a ONS, other person steals your number and keeps texting you. You want her/him/it to go away but the person is persistant. Is it possible to then have it either block, or autoreply to every sms from said person?

Would be awesome.

[donfano]

Can you auto-reply sms to certain contacts with this?

Example: You get into a ONS, other person steals your number and keeps texting you. You want her/him/it to go away but the person is persistant. Is it possible to then have it either block, or autoreply to every sms from said person?

Would be awesome.

This app does not have the feature to auto reply. It can either move, copy or hide the incoming sms.

[mohitsapru]

This app does not have the feature to auto reply. It can either move, copy or hide the incoming sms.

also delete the messages... just to add in.
Thanks donfano for replyin :D

[mohitsapru]

I just ran a test, and it works if the thread mode is disabled.:o The way you disabled the WM notifications before does disable the thread mode automatically. Why can't this work with thread mode enabled? I mean right now it does work, but it is just placed in the wrong folder.:confused:

Hi donfano,
I tried it in my device by turning on the thread mod. but it is working.!!! U had any other finds?

[donfano]

Hi donfano,
I tried it in my device by turning on the thread mod. but it is working.!!! U had any other finds?

You got it working with the thread mode on :confused:

Does your app have a way of producing a trace? I don't understand why it places the sms in the Deleted Items folder. Is it possible it was not able to access the PRIVATE folder?

[donfano]

Hi donfano,
I tried it in my device by turning on the thread mod. but it is working.!!! U had any other finds?

Mohit - You'll never believe that the hiding rule works fine now with the thread mode on. What did I do? Well, I am not sure!:rolleyes:

After trying to figure out what is going on, I decided to simply leave the thread mode off to make sure I don't lose my private sms. Yesterday, I ran more tests because I was wondering what could happen if I turn the thread mode back on now that I already have some sms in my PRIVATE folder. Will the new sms still be stored in Deleted Items and will I lose the ones in the PRIVATE folder? I ran a test, and the new sms got stored in the PRIVATE folder, and no sms was lost.

I thought then if the problem occurs if the PRIVATE folder is empty. I then emptied the PRIVATE folder, but the problem did not occur.... It seems to me that the resolution would be to turn off the thread mode the first time using the hiding rules, and then turn the thread mode back on. Let's leave it to this! I have spent more than enough time on it, and I was the only one who was having the "problem":rolleyes:

[mohitsapru]

Mohit - You'll never believe that the hiding rule works fine now with the thread mode on. What did I do? Well, I am not sure!:rolleyes:

After trying to figure out what is going on, I decided to simply leave the thread mode off to make sure I don't lose my private sms. Yesterday, I ran more tests because I was wondering what could happen if I turn the thread mode back on now that I already have some sms in my PRIVATE folder. Will the new sms still be stored in Deleted Items and will I lose the ones in the PRIVATE folder? I ran a test, and the new sms got stored in the PRIVATE folder, and no sms was lost.

I thought then if the problem occurs if the PRIVATE folder is empty. I then emptied the PRIVATE folder, but the problem did not occur.... It seems to me that the resolution would be to turn off the thread mode the first time using the hiding rules, and then turn the thread mode back on. Let's leave it to this! I have spent more than enough time on it, and I was the only one who was having the "problem":rolleyes:

Hmm :o really confusing... cant figure out still.
nywayz all is well that ends well:cool: so happy filtering... and any more suggestions are always welcome.:D, thanks for testing. :)

[eddaredevil]

Great application!

Where can I find the messages that are in the # map
How can I restore the messages in the # map?

(I'm using threaded sms)

Thanks :D

[mohitsapru]

Great application!

Where can I find the messages that are in the # map
How can I restore the messages in the # map?

(I'm using threaded sms)

Thanks :D

hi,

hope u have gone through the FAQs at first post.
well # means hidden messages. to restore those open CreateRules GUI go to about tab-> menu -> personal -> show it will ask you to set a password if you havnt
when that is done it will open a new frame where it will show two buttons one will be showe private folder click that and all the hidden messages will be present in the PRIVATE folder of messaging application.
then later on you can use the privateSMS shortcut for the same thing.
Hope u get it :D

[eddaredevil]

Thanks for you're reply,
I think I wracked it already :P
I deactivated the thread sms.. rebooted and lost my test sms.

[eddaredevil]

Thanks for you're reply

Think I wracked it changing the threaded sms mode to not threaded.

[evgeniy_v]

Hello,
when I used RuleSMS v.4.1 I created subfolder "Test1" in "Private" This folder was hide/unhide together with "Private". Unfortunately, after update RuleSMS to v.4.3 this feature don't work and subfolder "Test1" was lost after hide/unhide.
May be You can add in your program support more then one "private" folders?

[astrolabio]

Hallo,

Congratulations, your program is great!
I created the rule to hide sms of a contact, but I can also create a rule to hide the sms I send to that contact?


Excuse my English ..:(

Thanks

[mohitsapru]

Hallo,

Congratulations, your program is great!
I created the rule to hide sms of a contact, but I can also create a rule to hide the sms I send to that contact?


Excuse my English ..:(

Thanks

Thanks astrolabio,

i hope you have downloaded v4.3, in that version u have an option in CreateRules program tools tab to run the rules in any selected folders and you have to do this manually if you want to apply rules to your other folders just as in your case.
(This wont run automatically)
Just select the sent folder in Filter folder dropdown and then click filter button, ALL the rules will be applied to your sent folder including hidden rule.
Thanks
Mohit

[astrolabio]

Many thanks mohitsapru, it's all very clear now.

[anand_verma22jan79]

i just installed it but not able to login into privatesms screen. it shows wrong password. pls help !!!

[anand_verma22jan79]

finally able to login.... but not able to configure it. How to create a rule for "hiding messages from a particular contact and how to see it. How to set the notification"......

[anand_verma22jan79]

also, i cannot see "private folder" after giving password in the "privatesms". i need to create the "#" folder manually????

[mohitsapru]

also, i cannot see "private folder" after giving password in the "privatesms". i need to create the "#" folder manually????

I suggest you to go through the FAQs first.
if there is still something u are not able to figure out or not clear i will be more than willing to help:D

[mohitsapru]

minor updates
v4.3a
Keep all 3exes under a single folder(SMSRules) under programs Programs
Added a slider control in PrivateSMS application to fetch number of private smses it should display. Keeping it low will display the last one and maximum will show all.
This was done incase you have alot of Private SMS it used to take time to show them, this option reduces the time by limiting the number of smses you want to see

[pvbangodi]

hi,
kindly guide me on to create sms folder

[mohitsapru]

hi,
kindly guide me on to create sms folder

what help exactly you want was it not there in FAQs?

[anand_verma22jan79]

Let me explain you what I have achieved till now and where i am facing problem

1. I Installed the application and created a password for me.
2. I created a contact rule "HIDE all mesg from X".\
3. Set the rule to autorun.

Problem facing.
1. When i get SMS from X, it is still going to the HTC messages. "runrules" is running in background.
2. Sometyms the messages doesnt come up at all.
3. when i click SHOW in "Privatesms", i cannot see any # folder in dropdown list. it still shows all default folders.

Hope you understand my problem. What i want to achieve is to HIDE message from my friend and keep it secret.

[mohitsapru]

Let me explain you what I have achieved till now and where i am facing problem

1. I Installed the application and created a password for me.
2. I created a contact rule "HIDE all mesg from X".\
3. Set the rule to autorun.

Problem facing.
1. When i get SMS from X, it is still going to the HTC messages. "runrules" is running in background.
2. Sometyms the messages doesnt come up at all.
3. when i click SHOW in "Privatesms", i cannot see any # folder in dropdown list. it still shows all default folders.

Hope you understand my problem. What i want to achieve is to HIDE message from my friend and keep it secret.

Hi Anand,

To answer your problem, applying rules does take time and it can sometimes show temporarily in the HTC messaging app. still trying to solve it.

also there is no # folder as mentioned in FAQs also, show private sms will create "PRIVATE" folder. lemme know if still you have any questions.

[anand_verma22jan79]

Its almost 1 hr when i ran the rules in background. Jst tried and get the message again in HTC message window.

Please help me ... i need this feature urgently by today. I am really impressed by the tool but want to use it also

[anand_verma22jan79]

I mannually run the "run rules" and this tym the message got moved from HTC messages. But where it gone i dont know. I cant see it in the PRIVATE SMS window too.

[mohitsapru]

I mannually run the "run rules" and this tym the message got moved from HTC messages. But where it gone i dont know. I cant see it in the PRIVATE SMS window too.

Are you using threaded mode SMS? and what is your devices spec?

Just confirm the steps
1. u create a new rule in Contacts Rule tab to "HIDE" messages from X, this option should disable the folder list so that u r not able to select any destination folder it will save the hidden message rule under a virtual folder #.
2. verify the rule in existing rule tab. this rule should be under # folder

wait for a private message or manually run rules to hide your existing messages in inbox.

Notification should popup letting u know how many messages were processed under different rules(did u get that notification?)
Once every thing is done go to PrivateSMS app and provide the password which u have set up through the CreateRules GUI.
This should create a new folder named "PRIVATE" in tmails folder and all the messages should be present there.

[anand_verma22jan79]

Are you using threaded mode SMS? and what is your devices spec?

Just confirm the steps
1. u create a new rule in Contacts Rule tab to "HIDE" messages from X, this option should disable the folder list so that u r not able to select any destination folder it will save the hidden message rule under a virtual folder #.
2. verify the rule in existing rule tab. this rule should be under # folder

wait for a private message or manually run rules to hide your existing messages in inbox.

Notification should popup letting u know how many messages were processed under different rules(did u get that notification?)
Once every thing is done go to PrivateSMS app and provide the password which u have set up through the CreateRules GUI.
This should create a new folder named "PRIVATE" in tmails folder and all the messages should be present there.
I have done exactly the same steps u mentioned. Yes i can a notification messages about home many messages are processed.

After this i went to privateSMS and provide the password. There is no PRIVATE folder exist. Thats is making me curious abt where i am wrong.

I am using HTC diamond 2 with Nhatoea rom with 6.5.3 windows mobile installed.

I am using "traditional mode" not "conversational mode" in HTC messages

[mohitsapru]

I have done exactly the same steps u mentioned. Yes i can a notification messages about home many messages are processed.

After this i went to privateSMS and provide the password. There is no PRIVATE folder exist. Thats is making me curious abt where i am wrong.

I am using HTC diamond 2 with Nhatoea rom with 6.5.3 windows mobile installed.

I am using "traditional mode" not "conversational mode" in HTC messages

Ok so there is some thing wrong maybe a bug!
well the notification you got, did it mentioned the number of messages it HID. This will let you know how many messages were processed.
Ok so we can test one more thing to figure out if it is a bug.
Open CreateRules first tab, ContactRules goto menu click Add Folder give some random folder name and check thru sms app if that folder has been created if there was no error....
and yes one more thing if you close the PrivateSMS or CreateGUI it will hide the PRIVATE folder again so you need to keep these apps open in case you closed them before opening the private folder.

[anand_verma22jan79]

Ok so there is some thing wrong maybe a bug!
well the notification you got, did it mentioned the number of messages it HID. This will let you know how many messages were processed.
Ok so we can test one more thing to figure out if it is a bug.
Open CreateRules first tab, ContactRules goto menu click Add Folder give some random folder name and check thru sms app if that folder has been created if there was no error....
and yes one more thing if you close the PrivateSMS or CreateGUI it will hide the PRIVATE folder again so you need to keep these apps open in case you closed them before opening the private folder.
When i run the "run rules" manually, i got the notification message "HID 1"...

I have tried to create a dummy folder. but it is not avilable in the HTC SMS application. i think this is the problem. rules are procession the filers and i m not seeing the PRIVATE folder and hence due to this messages are getting lost.

[mohitsapru]

When i run the "run rules" manually, i got the notification message "HID 1"...

I have tried to create a dummy folder. but it is not avilable in the HTC SMS application. i think this is the problem. rules are procession the filers and i m not seeing the PRIVATE folder and hence due to this messages are getting lost.

Hmm no one reported this kind of problem before....:confused:
Ok last step to confirm if it is a bug.
1. Can u create folders manually in your HTC SMS app (not SMSRules)
2. When u created the folder from SMSRules did it errored? if not, was it shown in the folder list of smsrules?
3. open tmail(HTC sms) menu->tools->manage folders-> this should show all the folder present in the SMS client. is the dummy folder there?
4. Are you able to add new folder in it without using smsrules?

[anand_verma22jan79]

are you asking me to open tmail.exe and then go to manage folders etc.

If this is the case then tmail.exe is not having sms account for me. It has all my email accounts. i can see a tmailsms.exe in the same folder which on run gives me the SMS interface.

[anand_verma22jan79]

are you asking me to open tmail.exe and then go to manage folders etc.

If this is the case then tmail.exe is not having sms account for me. It has all my email accounts. i can see a tmailsms.exe in the same folder which on run gives me the SMS interface.
Also, there is no option of "manage folder" in tmailsms.exe. this option i saw in tmail.exe but sms account is not configured in that. only i have yahoo, gmail etc account

[anand_verma22jan79]

Also, there is no option of "manage folder" in tmailsms.exe. this option i saw in tmail.exe but sms account is not configured in that. only i have yahoo, gmail etc account
is the following link will help me ???

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=556614

[anand_verma22jan79]

With the above fix in link, now i can see the PRIVATE folder and its going to be HIDE and SHOW.

Now testing with the rules and notification. Will keep you posted.

[anand_verma22jan79]

With the above fix in link, now i can see the PRIVATE folder and its going to be HIDE and SHOW.

Now testing with the rules and notification. Will keep you posted.
Few Ques....
1. Is this application will start automatically working after restart? or i have to start some utility after each restart to monitor the incoming messages.
2. If this is working in background and moving message to PRIVATE folder then will i get some sort of notification??

[samvds]

Is it possible to create a rule that moves/copies a SMS to a folder in my email (not in SMS/MMS)?

[mohitsapru]

Is it possible to create a rule that moves/copies a SMS to a folder in my email (not in SMS/MMS)?

No for the time being it just works with SMS

[samvds]

It should be nice to have that...
Imagine that you have IMAP with Google Mail (as I do). Create a rule that moves or copies all my SMS-messages to a specified folder, named "SMS IN" and "SMS OUT". My IMAP syncs with Google and ALL MY SMS-MESSAGES are available in Gmail (search, order, store,... them)!

[mohitsapru]

It should be nice to have that...
Imagine that you have IMAP with Google Mail (as I do). Create a rule that moves or copies all my SMS-messages to a specified folder, named "SMS IN" and "SMS OUT". My IMAP syncs with Google and ALL MY SMS-MESSAGES are available in Gmail (search, order, store,... them)!

ok you mean move messages from Inbox to Gmail folders?:rolleyes: hmm seems a good idea but not sure it will work or not. will try, if it works this will be a nice or kinda best suggestion:D

[samvds]

Indeed!
Move them from SMS-Inbox to Gmail-folder...
Thanks for checking it!

[mohitsapru]

Indeed!
Move them from SMS-Inbox to Gmail-folder...
Thanks for checking it!

That is what this forum is for...:D !!!Ideas!!!
will let u know the results when i try to impliment it:o

[mohitsapru]

Few Ques....
1. Is this application will start automatically working after restart? or i have to start some utility after each restart to monitor the incoming messages.
2. If this is working in background and moving message to PRIVATE folder then will i get some sort of notification??

yes it will always start automatically, infact there is nothing to start, whenever a sms arrives runrules will automatically run.(If you have checked autorun option)
yes you wil get the custom notification telling you how many rules were filtered

[mohitsapru]

That is what this forum is for...:D !!!Ideas!!!
will let u know the results when i try to impliment it:o

hmm tried to implement it, success till copying the sms to "Gmail" SMS folder, tried to sync, removes the message from Device. Doesn't update the Gmail folder.

[samvds]

hmm tried to implement it, success till copying the sms to "Gmail" SMS folder, tried to sync, removes the message from Device. Doesn't update the Gmail folder.

Are you using IMAP? If you moved it to a specified folder, did you tried to click the name of that label in your Gmail? No message found?

[mohitsapru]

Are you using IMAP? If you moved it to a specified folder, did you tried to click the name of that label in your Gmail? No message found?

yes i am using IMAP!!! yup i tried everything. A normal emails remain there and the sms gets removed!!!

[samvds]

Another small suggestion: for each SMS, create a new message in email, addressed to yourself, from yourself and add the SMS-info into that message...

[mohitsapru]

Another small suggestion: for each SMS, create a new message in email, addressed to yourself, from yourself and add the SMS-info into that message...

ya thaz a way but it wont be that fun;)

[anand_verma22jan79]

yes it will always start automatically, infact there is nothing to start, whenever a sms arrives runrules will automatically run.(If you have checked autorun option)
yes you wil get the custom notification telling you how many rules were filtered
yes it was working fine. two sugesstions:

1. SMS notification is working but it pops up a window giving information about how many rules are processed. It clearly indicates a third person that something is being hiding. Cant we do just notifaction in the upper task bar (already coming) and no popup window.

2. How can i can avoid saving message in SENT folder for a contact (which is hiddedn for incoming)

3. Can you change the name from SMSRULES, PRIVATESMS etc to something else. It indicates that something is running in background.

[donfano]

1. SMS notification is working but it pops up a window giving information about how many rules are processed. It clearly indicates a third person that something is being hiding. Cant we do just notifaction in the upper task bar (already coming) and no popup window.I was about to post this suggestion today, so I'm joining my request with yours. I sometimes get 3 or 4 messages to be hidden, so I get 4 popups that I need to close one by one. I would suggest to allow users to click on the icon from the taskbar to find out the accumulated report.

2. How can i can avoid saving message in SENT folder for a contact (which is hiddedn for incoming)I would say you will need to apply the same rule to your Sent folder under Tools. I haven't tried it yet, but I will let Mohit do the talk :)

3. Can you change the name from SMSRULES, PRIVATESMS etc to something else. It indicates that something is running in background.I am not sure what you mean here, but once again I will let Mohit answer this one.

[mohitsapru]

Regarding to the notifications i am planning to move it into a single notification but still trying to figure out how :o


How can i can avoid saving message in SENT folder for a contact (which is hiddedn for incoming)

for sms sent message filtering we cant do it automatically, at least not without anything running at background. Also as donfano said u may use the new tools, to filter ur other folders.

Can you change the name from SMSRULES, PRIVATESMS etc to something else. It indicates that something is running in background.
Hmm as i have said there are no background app running all the time. they will just run when an sms arrives. also If you want to change the app name in programs u can rename the shortcuts. Plz do not rename the app exes.

[donfano]

for sms sent message filtering we cant do it automatically, at least not without anything running at background. Also as donfano said u may use the new tools, to filter ur other folders.

I'm just throwing my idea here for you and hoping it could be a hint to find a solution.:rolleyes: As far as I'm concerned, I would like to hide the incoming sms from X and the ones I sent to X. Your app already takes care of the incoming sms, but not the outgoing ones. I was wondering if you could "simply" triggers your app to apply a rule on Sent folder after an sms is sent. Actually, I find a reference that might help you to achieve this at http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/vssmartdevicesvbcs/thread/5fcc4406-4d6b-4368-ace1-f54cb6023ac0/

[gates02]

great app idea but wats da point havin a sms hider app if the program folder name is pirvatesms and every time u recieve a new text a notification screen pops up tellin u dat your hiding sms..dats like robbing a bank wit out a mask and gloves on..100% chance your gettin caught lol..not tryna knock nothin dats free but come on now!!!

[mohitsapru]

great app idea but wats da point havin a sms hider app if the program folder name is pirvatesms and every time u recieve a new text a notification screen pops up tellin u dat your hiding sms..dats like robbing a bank wit out a mask and gloves on..100% chance your gettin caught lol..not tryna knock nothin dats free but come on now!!!

What if there are no cameras n ppl around:D
well the app is not so smooth, even if u get a private sms u will see it in your inbox for a short period of time.
and that notification i did because i myself had to check my folders every time to see if i got any filtered smses, well i will make it an optional one next time.
and about folder name, i suppose that shudn't be a problem as that will be visible only if you want it to be, same as your netbanking, you provide password chk your $$ and close it right.. u dont keep it open... same here open ur "PRIVATE" folder chk texts and close... no signs left if there is no one spying around...:cool:

[man2003]

Excellent App... :)

Thanks a lot...

How can I disable the Notification?

[donfano]

Excellent App... :)

Thanks a lot...

How can I disable the Notification?

I believe Mohit is working on that option.:rolleyes:

[mohitsapru]

I believe Mohit is working on that option.:rolleyes:

Yes u will see that option in next version. Right now i was busy with other app. That you must have noticed in my signature

[rjmjr69]

Love this idea can now wait for the secret issue to be fixed then it will be a SURE HIT Ill cook into all roms

[mohitsapru]

Excellent App... :)

Thanks a lot...

How can I disable the Notification?

the changes have been made please take v4.4 for the changes.

[mohitsapru]

1. Made custom notification optional, you can now select, to have or not to have a notification displayed when a sms is filtered. You can choose it from Createrules GUI menu.
2. If you have opted to be notified it will display only one notification for all the sms you receive and will have two buttons in notification window, one to close the notification and other to refresh

[donfano]

1. Made custom notification optional, you can now select, to have or not to have a notification displayed when a sms is filtered. You can choose it from Createrules GUI menu.
2. If you have opted to be notified it will display only one notification for all the sms you receive and will have two buttons in notification window, one to close the notification and other to refresh

Will run a test right away! Thanks Mohit!:D

By the way, it is funny that you dated this version:
[APP]Filter Rules for SMS 4.4 (UPDATED 1-Feb)

Here where I am, it's still 31-Jan:p

[mohitsapru]

Will run a test right away! Thanks Mohit!:D

By the way, it is funny that you dated this version:


Here where I am, it's still 31-Jan:p

waiting to have the verdict... well at my place India its 2feb now ;) one more thing noticed smsrules in your fav app sign....THANK YOU

[donfano]

waiting to have the verdict... well at my place India its 2feb now ;) one more thing noticed smsrules in your fav app sign....THANK YOU

It's working great!!:)

I don't want to sound difficult, but I was wondering if you can add a 3rd option for the notify options, an option to see an icon on the task bar only when a rule has been applied (i.e. no icon if no rule was applied). That is, I would like to see the notify icon on the task bar and be able to click on it to open the notification window and see which rules have been applied. Does that make any sense to you?

[mohitsapru]

It's working great!!:)

I don't want to sound difficult, but I was wondering if you can add a 3rd option for the notify options, an option to see an icon on the task bar only when a rule has been applied (i.e. no icon if no rule was applied). That is, I would like to see the notify icon on the task bar and be able to click on it to open the notification window and see which rules have been applied. Does that make any sense to you?

Thanks donfano that shoudn't be a big deal. So u mean that it shoud not pop up for a new rule and notification should be displayed only if any of the rule was applied... i think we can skip the delete rules notification also..

One more thing i wanted to ask that with each new install does ur earlier rules are also cleaned?

[donfano]

Thanks donfano that shoudn't be a big deal. So u mean that it shoud not pop up for a new rule and notification should be displayed only if any of the rule was applied... i think we can skip the delete rules notification also..
Yes, that would be the case when the notify is turned on. When the the notify is turned off, it would be nice to have the choices between the current behavior and having an icon on the task bar to indicate that a rule was applied. This icon can be then tapped on to display the pop up.

In other words, I was thinking about the following logic:
intercept incoming sms
run rules
if notify option turned on
show popup
else if task bar icon option turned on
place icon on task bar
[...]

when tap event trapped on task bar icon
show popup
[...]
I hope my attempt to do pseudo-code above makes any sense to you:D. Just trying to help!:rolleyes:

One more thing i wanted to ask that with each new install does ur earlier rules are also cleaned?
Not anymore! It only happened once when I first reported the problem.

[mohitsapru]

Yes, that would be the case when the notify is turned on. When the the notify is turned off, it would be nice to have the choices between the current behavior and having an icon on the task bar to indicate that a rule was applied. This icon can be then tapped on to display the pop up.

In other words, I was thinking about the following logic:
intercept incoming sms
run rules
if notify option turned on
show popup
else if task bar icon option turned on
place icon on task bar
[...]

when tap event trapped on task bar icon
show popup
[...]
I hope my attempt to do pseudo-code above makes any sense to you:D. Just trying to help!:rolleyes:


Not anymore! It only happened once when I first reported the problem.

got it...nice code :D
will implement it next time... any other suggestions?
getting out of ideas n work :o

[samvds]

Hi,

Is it possible to create a rule that applies on messages in the "Sent Items"-folder?

Should be nice to have that...

[donfano]

Hi,

Is it possible to create a rule that applies on messages in the "Sent Items"-folder?

Should be nice to have that...

This is already possible by applying the same rule you are using on your Inbox. You can achieve this by going to Tools, check Sent Items under Archive Folders, select Inbox from Filter Folder, and tap on Filter Inbox button.

[LCyberFox]

So, I honestly am not posting this to diss on your app, I think it's a pretty sweet app and I actually would have a use for it... BUT ..

Disclaimer : This may not apply to everyone, phones can and likely do differentiate, but it definitely applies to my stock at&t tilt2

... anyway, on to the bad news ..

Beware : This app uses the MessageInterceptor APIs from PocketOutlook which is very buggy. Actually, the worse of it is that it will cause tmail (pocket outlook) to completely freeze if you receive messages quickly back to back - or for other "stress" reasons - yes this happens with this specific app.

Here is a post on that:

http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/netfxcompact/thread/04391fe4-ff24-4ec4-b459-a455840c75d4/

so, if you've been experiencing the messaging application (pocket outlook) sometimes freezing on you, well, you might want to uninstall this - it was happening to me ;)

ps: This *ONLY* applies if you are using this app using the "Auto" mode, if you aren't, then you're safe :)

ps2- Uninstalling this app doesn't seem to cleanup the registry location that MessageInteceptor uses and the hangs will remain, so you might want to, after uninstall, clean those up yourself by deleting the key HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Rules\SMSRules and everything under it

again, sorry for being negative, but sometimes ignorance just isn't bliss :D

~ L

[mohitsapru]

So, I honestly am not posting this to diss on your app, I think it's a pretty sweet app and I actually would have a use for it... BUT ..

Disclaimer : This may not apply to everyone, phones can and likely do differentiate, but it definitely applies to my stock at&t tilt2

... anyway, on to the bad news ..

Beware : This app uses the MessageInterceptor APIs from PocketOutlook which is very buggy. Actually, the worse of it is that it will cause tmail (pocket outlook) to completely freeze if you receive messages quickly back to back - or for other "stress" reasons - yes this happens with this specific app.

Here is a post on that:

http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/netfxcompact/thread/04391fe4-ff24-4ec4-b459-a455840c75d4/

so, if you've been experiencing the messaging application (pocket outlook) sometimes freezing on you, well, you might want to uninstall this - it was happening to me ;)

ps: This *ONLY* applies if you are using this app using the "Auto" mode, if you aren't, then you're safe :)

ps2- Uninstalling this app doesn't seem to cleanup the registry location that MessageInteceptor uses and the hangs will remain, so you might want to, after uninstall, clean those up yourself by deleting the key HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Rules\SMSRules and everything under it

again, sorry for being negative, but sometimes ignorance just isn't bliss :D

~ L


I Totally agree to LCyberFox,
Thanks, will add this info at the first post in fact i should have done this earlier. But since no one reported these issue i forgot.
Anyways it is true that message MessageInterceptor is buggy but very nice to battery and for me battery life comes first ;)


ps2- Uninstalling this app doesn't seem to cleanup the registry location that MessageInteceptor uses and the hangs will remain, so you might want to, after uninstall, clean those up yourself by deleting the key HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Rules\SMSRules and everything under it

Yes this entry will remain in registry only if you uninstall without turning off the autorun option and that I have already suggested in first post.

again, sorry for being negative, but sometimes ignorance just isn't bliss :D

No need to be sorry, thanks for posting it. Will help people choosing the options... if there are any:cool:

[samvds]

This is already possible by applying the same rule you are using on your Inbox. You can achieve this by going to Tools, check Sent Items under Archive Folders, select Inbox from Filter Folder, and tap on Filter Inbox button.

I tried this, but it does not seem to work.
I created a rule that moves messages from contact A to a folder, but in the "Sent Items"-folder, the messages are not FROM contact A, but from myself...
No messages where filtered. And creating a rule that filters messages from me, would filter them all in my "Sent Items"...

[mohitsapru]

I tried this, but it does not seem to work.
I created a rule that moves messages from contact A to a folder, but in the "Sent Items"-folder, the messages are not FROM contact A, but from myself...
No messages where filtered. And creating a rule that filters messages from me, would filter them all in my "Sent Items"...


Hmm I think i had taken care of this condition and this works fine for me... whenever i filter sent messages it will filter according to the recepients of the SMS. I will again test it and check further.

[mohitsapru]

So, I honestly am not posting this to diss on your app, I think it's a pretty sweet app and I actually would have a use for it... BUT ....
.~ L
U might have noticed your "Warning" now at the first post:)

New Delay Mode
Well i thought about this today and i was thinking maybe i can create a new "Delay Mode" that will autorun (yes using interceptor) and remove the interceptor when a message arrives and will wait in background for few "Minutes" and then filter the messages and again create an interceptor on exit.
So this should solve two problems.
1. Will remain "autorun" but a delayed one.
2. Only once interceptor will run for that time even if several messages arrive in that period.

How about that!!!

[EDIT] Question to every one. What is your suggestion, should I implement it?

[samvds]

U might have noticed your "Warning" now at the first post:)

New Delay Mode
Well i thought about this today and i was thinking maybe i can create a new "Delay Mode" that will autorun (yes using interceptor) and remove the interceptor when a message arrives and will wait in background for few "Minutes" and then filter the messages and again create an interceptor on exit.
So this should solve two problems.
1. Will remain "autorun" but a delayed one.
2. Only once interceptor will run for that time even if several messages arrive in that period.

How about that!!!

[EDIT] Question to every one. What is your suggestion, should I implement it?

Sounds nice, but maybe you can create a "scheduled Autorun"... It should be nice when I could run the rules for example at midnight. All my messages are filtered as it should be and those from the last day are still in my Inbox.
It also solves the above you mentioned and also saves batterypower...

I also tried again filtering the "Sent Items", but it still does not work. I would like to filter all messages between me and one contact and store them in one folder... Maybe this is a suggestion too? :)

[mohitsapru]

Sounds nice, but maybe you can create a "scheduled Autorun"... It should be nice when I could run the rules for example at midnight. All my messages are filtered as it should be and those from the last day are still in my Inbox.
It also solves the above you mentioned and also saves batterypower...

I also tried again filtering the "Sent Items", but it still does not work. I would like to filter all messages between me and one contact and store them in one folder... Maybe this is a suggestion too? :)

Suggestion accepted... Keep an eye on next release:cool:

So for your Sent Items problem... There seems to be some problem as it works for me fine. Maybe depends on different version of outlook, so what kinda device do you have!!! anyways i will fix this too

[samvds]

So for your Sent Items problem... There seems to be some problem as it works for me fine. Maybe depends on different version of outlook, so what kinda device do you have!!! anyways i will fix this too

I'm using a TyTN II (Kaiser) with WinMo 6.1...
Thanks for the effort!

[mohitsapru]

I'm using a TyTN II (Kaiser) with WinMo 6.1...
Thanks for the effort!

I am attaching a zip file extract the exe in it to SMSRules folder. and check if Sent item rule work..
well before you test i, is your rom an eng one or your sent messages will have from as "Me" ?

[samvds]

I am attaching a zip file extract the exe in it to SMSRules folder. and check if Sent item rule work..
well before you test i, is your rom an eng one or your sent messages will have from as "Me" ?

Thanks! My rom is English and the "From:" in my sent items isn't there, I only see the "To:".
Will try this exe ASAP...
Keep you posted!

[samvds]

Hi Mohit,

I think this one did the trick:
- go to "Tools"
- in the dropdown select "Sent Items"
--> the caption on the button changed into "Sent Items"
- hit that button
- waited a long time
- much messages where moved, not all!
- re-run again, some messages still stand there...

Strange...

[mohitsapru]

Hi Mohit,

I think this one did the trick:
- go to "Tools"
- in the dropdown select "Sent Items"
--> the caption on the button changed into "Sent Items"
- hit that button
- waited a long time
- much messages where moved, not all!
- re-run again, some messages still stand there...

Strange...

so u did this after installing the new exe right?
hmm one more info the logic behind filtering the sent messages works like, if you have a message addressed to more than one recipient then while filtering the message it will take the very first contact name from the list maybe the other messages which didn't got filtered are like this!!! what i mean is that the first contact in those messages has not got a rule defined.
could you please check that also.

[rjmjr69]

U might have noticed your "Warning" now at the first post:)

New Delay Mode
Well i thought about this today and i was thinking maybe i can create a new "Delay Mode" that will autorun (yes using interceptor) and remove the interceptor when a message arrives and will wait in background for few "Minutes" and then filter the messages and again create an interceptor on exit.
So this should solve two problems.
1. Will remain "autorun" but a delayed one.
2. Only once interceptor will run for that time even if several messages arrive in that period.

How about that!!!

[EDIT] Question to every one. What is your suggestion, should I implement it?

OMG solve this issue and your the man for sure.!!!!!

[mohitsapru]

OMG solve this issue and your the man for sure.!!!!!

wait for the weekend ;)

[donfano]

New Delay Mode
Well i thought about this today and i was thinking maybe i can create a new "Delay Mode" that will autorun (yes using interceptor) and remove the interceptor when a message arrives and will wait in background for few "Minutes" and then filter the messages and again create an interceptor on exit.
So this should solve two problems.
1. Will remain "autorun" but a delayed one.
2. Only once interceptor will run for that time even if several messages arrive in that period.

How about that!!!

[EDIT] Question to every one. What is your suggestion, should I implement it?

Mohit - I know you want to resolve everything, but I am just wondering how many of us have experienced the problem in question. I haven't! So if this "problem" is not really a problem for me, why would I want to change the current behaviour? I prefer the autorun to apply rules as I am receiving sms, and I wouldn't mind to do a soft reset of my device once a year if the problem occurs.:D

[mohitsapru]

Mohit - I know you want to resolve everything, but I am just wondering how many of us have experienced the problem in question. I haven't! So if this "problem" is not really a problem for me, why would I want to change the current behaviour? I prefer the autorun to apply rules as I am receiving sms, and I wouldn't mind to do a soft reset of my device once a year if the problem occurs.:D

thanks donfano good to hear it since i haven't faced this problem also... i am waiting till weekend to see what responses it will get.... ;) well i am ready with the idea and just need to get started... any ways how about an scheduled run!!! if not a delayed one?? Need to have something to work on...(all depends on you guys) ohh rember i have already.. modding the notifications behavior ... ;)

[samvds]

so u did this after installing the new exe right?
hmm one more info the logic behind filtering the sent messages works like, if you have a message addressed to more than one recipient then while filtering the message it will take the very first contact name from the list maybe the other messages which didn't got filtered are like this!!! what i mean is that the first contact in those messages has not got a rule defined.
could you please check that also.

All messages that are still there are sent to only one contact... Normally the rule should work.

I moved them now manually and will track the new messages I sent. I'll check if those are moves correclty. Keep you posted!

[mohitsapru]

All messages that are still there are sent to only one contact... Normally the rule should work.

I moved them now manually and will track the new messages I sent. I'll check if those are moves correclty. Keep you posted!


thanks for checking out, lemme know the results....

[samvds]

Need to have something to work on...(all depends on you guys) ohh rember i have already.. modding the notifications behavior ... ;)

If you want something more, it should be nice that the messages from the "Sent items" can also be defined by a rule. Not only with the "Tools" trick :-)

I just sent a message, ran the filter on my "Sent items", but the messages still rest there...
Strange...

[mohitsapru]

If you want something more, it should be nice that the messages from the "Sent items" can also be defined by a rule. Not only with the "Tools" trick :-)
:D


I just sent a message, ran the filter on my "Sent items", but the messages still rest there...
Strange...

ok lez try this once.
1. open createrules gui
2. select *card# option from "contact from:" dropdown
3. enter the name(either first or last) of the receipent to whom you just sent the message
4. verify the rule in existing rule tab
run the rules from tool tab on sent messages.

i suppose you must have replaced the smsrules exe that i gave u earlier!!

[max_bhk]

Just installed the program but initially asking for password...
Help me on this...
with my own password...the error message is 'WRONG PASSWORD'

Any help plz...

[samvds]

:D

ok lez try this once.
1. open createrules gui
2. select *card# option from "contact from:" dropdown
3. enter the name(either first or last) of the receipent to whom you just sent the message
4. verify the rule in existing rule tab
run the rules from tool tab on sent messages.

i suppose you must have replaced the smsrules exe that i gave u earlier!!

OK, I did EXACTLY what you wrote, without any result...
And, yes, I'm using the exe you uploaded here...

[mohitsapru]

Just installed the program but initially asking for password...
Help me on this...
with my own password...the error message is 'WRONG PASSWORD'

Any help plz...


there seems to be alot of confusion due to new shortcut. as you might have noticed there are three apps.
Main is Createrules from there you can create rules, filter, archive and much more. Inside the app there is a about tab go there and then click menu -> personal -> show.
if it is your first login it will ask you for a password. set it there and then u can access ur private sms..

also plz read FAQs for more info

[mohitsapru]

OK, I did EXACTLY what you wrote, without any result...
And, yes, I'm using the exe you uploaded here...


ok now not giving you any fix just a exe which will log the process... it will generate sam.txt in the same dir as the smsrule
run it same way what u did earlier and mail me that txt file

@ my gmail id i will PM u that in case u dont have it

or pm the contents of the file once you are done

Edit: sorry if it errored out... anyways sorry to bother you again please take this one... same name but replaced the fault

EDIT2: Final fix, replace the exe and check if it works. If it is working test for other rules also... I am in office so cant test on my device:D

[donfano]

thanks donfano good to hear it since i haven't faced this problem also... i am waiting till weekend to see what responses it will get.... ;) well i am ready with the idea and just need to get started... any ways how about an scheduled run!!! if not a delayed one?? Need to have something to work on...(all depends on you guys) ohh rember i have already.. modding the notifications behavior ... ;)

A scheduled run is a good idea! It can be useful for archiving those less important sms at later time.

About the delayed one, you might as well give the option to the user to toggle it. Of course, you can put a warning for those (like me) who want to disable it. That way everyone can be happy!:p

I believe you will also work on implementing the possibility to apply rules against Sent Items. I've been waiting for this for awhile!:rolleyes:

Thank you also for considering the notification's behaviour!:)

Since you are really looking for something to do this weekend, I would suggest revamping the app's UI to make it to look cool.:cool:

[samvds]

ok now not giving you any fix just a exe which will log the process... it will generate sam.txt in the same dir as the smsrule
run it same way what u did earlier and mail me that txt file

@ my gmail id i will PM u that in case u dont have it

or pm the contents of the file once you are done

Edit: sorry if it errored out... anyways sorry to bother you again please take this one... same name but replaced the fault

EDIT2: Final fix, replace the exe and check if it works. If it is working test for other rules also... I am in office so cant test on my device:D

Thanks guy!
I replaced the exe with you latest SMSRulesFix and....
THAT WAS IT!
:-)
My "Sent items" are filtered as it should be!
Great job!
If there can be a scheduled run for "Inbox" and "Sent Items" and maby also for your SMSBackup, then I can sync my conversations on a daily basis with my Gmail :-)

I'll find some more ideas to make nice apps :-)

[mohitsapru]

Thanks guy!
I replaced the exe with you latest SMSRulesFix and....
THAT WAS IT!
:-)
My "Sent items" are filtered as it should be!
Great job!
If there can be a scheduled run for "Inbox" and "Sent Items" and maby also for your SMSBackup, then I can sync my conversations on a daily basis with my Gmail :-)

I'll find some more ideas to make nice apps :-)


Hey nice to hear that... got fixed finally..
well i wil surely try to impliment your suggestions for the next release

[samvds]

Keep up the excellent work!

[martjah]

i can't really find the solution.

i'm looking for a programm (this one?) that does:

- monitor for incoming text messages --> auto move to folder with password
- optionally (not a must) --> select from/to wich contacts
- also send items to the hidden folder
- doesnt have to be threaded compatible

i can't really figure out if this program does it, i tested a few things but i can't get it working.

Does this program meet the requirements ? if so, how to?

mayb putting it more clearly in the #1 post

[mohitsapru]

i can't really find the solution.

i'm looking for a programm (this one?) that does:

- monitor for incoming text messages --> auto move to folder with password
- optionally (not a must) --> select from/to wich contacts
- also send items to the hidden folder
- doesnt have to be threaded compatible

i can't really figure out if this program does it, i tested a few things but i can't get it working.

Does this program meet the requirements ? if so, how to?

I hope the first post says all... Features, faqs and usage...

[martjah]

well i've read your first post (offcourse)

and the auto part doesnt work for me. when i do it manual, it all works.

I have a HTC Touch HD with WM6.5 (kwbr 3.2.4)

things i stumble upon:
- i have to push the button on the bottom left about 5/6 times before the menu opens.
- if i chose exit, then my phone just hangs
- when i disable autorun in that menu, the app hangs(softreset)
- when i have the autorun enabled and a rule to move the messages from a person. The phone doesnt vibrate anymore (don't know about sound because i always have vibrate), the message isn't moved in any way. When i run RunRules, then the messages are being moved.
- i also noticed that some settings where changed for th "new textmessage" in wm options. The flash light is automaticly disabled and the display message is enabled(that last one is because i selected notifiy in your program)