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Shidell
6th November 2009, 09:58 PM
I wanted to make this post to address two points that I'm sure stir in the hearts of many Vogue owners beyond my own:

Android 2.0, and a flashable ROM.

To begin, I'd like to say that the ability to run Android on our Vogues in the first place is an incredible achievement, thanks to (your) hard work. I know that I speak for the entire community when I say Thank You for making this possible.

This points I'd like to make are:

Windows Mobile 6.5, while an improvement, still leaves myself (and I'm sure others) desiring more. Simply look at the Android interest already generated here, and it's sure to increase with the availability of 2.0--Android is a very slick, capable OS.

Windows Mobile does not include a 3D driver for the integrated ATi Imageon video accelerator--my understanding is that Android does have such support, which is a welcome upgrade in addition to the vast improvement over Windows Mobile that Android is.

The current solution to running Android, booting it from an SD card, feels temporary. I vastly prefer replacing the Windows Mobile ROM with a solid build of Android. This seems like a much more permanent solution, and is the step I'm looking for before making a full transition to Android from Windows Mobile.

I realize that not everyone may agree with me, and that's alright. I wanted to make this thread not only to start conversation, but also to get the thoughts of those developers who could make these dreams a reality.

So the questions become:


Is a fully-functional Android 2.0 build a reality in time? What sort of undertaking might this require? Could this transition be fast, given the progress made already with 1.5/1.6?
Who is in favor of a flashable ROM? Against? Reasons for either? Is a flashable ROM a realistic dream?


Lastly, there are a lot of builds/blends of Android available right now on the vogue-android project. I think this is great, but in the interest of providing a solitary, highest-functionality build of Android for the Vogue, it seems to make sense to try and bring developers together under a single umbrella to get one build completely set up. Would it be a good idea to start an "Android 2.0" project dedicated to moving in this direction?

Again, thanks for everyone's hard work. :) I look forward to hearing opinions and thoughts, especially as to how far Android on the Vogue may one day go.

mfpreach
6th November 2009, 10:28 PM
This has been discussed at length here:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=573397&highlight=bounty

mssmison
6th November 2009, 10:42 PM
and no the transition to 2.0 will not be quick, for one the aosp isn't even out yet, when it is out, the ril/audio libs/gps libs/bluetooth libs will all have to be rewritten.

Shidell
8th November 2009, 12:19 AM
I know that a flashable ROM was discussed, but as that thread was left to die, I wanted to start something users can follow up on in looking for a flashable ROM.

What will it take to develop a flashable ROM? Is it something that additional developers are needed for? Is there any way we can help?

mssmison, thanks for clarifying on 2.0. While we might have a start with Android 1.6, re-writing to work with 2.0 could be a big task.

What's still necessary to get a fully-functional, flashable Android ROM? Fix GPS and Bluetooth, and develop a way to flash it and make it native to our devices?

mssmison
8th November 2009, 12:28 AM
The flashable rom is not dead, and in fact i EXPECT that everyone who put up the bounty will pay out when it comes out.

Shidell
8th November 2009, 01:06 AM
Well that's fantastic news--thanks for confirming, mssmison.

The next question is, what's left to be finished for a flashable version?

Part of the confusion (my own, at least) is that certain builds have some functionality (GPS), others do not.

I know many are working on Android, in different ports (1.5, 1.6, 2.0, etc.), and I'd really like to see unified work/support to get all features and functionality in a single, flashable build.

I think this is the way to get Vogue users to migrate to Android.

Would there be interest in creating a unified effort to produce a single, completely-functional and flashable build?

I wish I knew more about this. I'm an beginning developer, but I don't hold a candle to the knowledge some of you have in regards to helping the Android movement.

zenulator
8th November 2009, 01:46 AM
Yes in the near future you will see android running natively replacing windows mobile. Most likely supporting 1.5 and 1.6 with 2.0 when ever google drops the source. I can say that the initial work has been done. I hope everyone makes good on their bounty pledges. The dev that is doing this deserves it.

BoboBrazil
8th November 2009, 11:02 PM
I will try to put up some money for that too. Anything to make my Vogue run better than it does on Windows Mobile.

EGOvoruhk
9th November 2009, 07:38 AM
I will try to put up some money for that too. Anything to make my Vogue run better than it does on Windows Mobile.

Offer up a donation in the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=573397

The very not dead thread, in which this discussion should be taking place, and already has some of the answers for the questions asked