Opera Mobile 10 beta (Windows Mobile) is Out

[upm15]

Just saw it from opera. Administrator pls delete if someone already post it. (i searched and it is no)


More features

Opera Turbo
Opera's servers compress Web pages up to 70%, greatly reducing the cost of browsing.

Touchscreen & keypad
The user interface has been optimized for both touchscreen and keypad-style mobile phones.

Typing less, browsing more
Save time with Web address auto-completion, password manager and inline editing.

Web standards
Opera 10 is based on the latest Opera browser engine so your favorite Web sites work as they do on a your computer.

Rich Web content
Browse Web applications sites like Facebook and Gmail, and enjoy the rich interaction.

Opera Dragonfly
Connect your mobile phone to your PC and debug Web applications remotely. Read more here.

Adaptive zoom
In just a few clicks easily pan and zoom into your desired content.

Privacy
Be in control of your privacy. Manage your passwords, history, cookies, and cache.

Saving pages and images
Save Web pages and images for later offline viewing.

http://www.opera.com/mobile/download/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBUmiDLRcNs

I uploaded to sendspace
http://www.sendspace.com/file/ucqzd1

[tcchuin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBUmiDLRcNs

the link above doesn't work.

[owziee]

I'm very disapointed... Check out how it formats the pages, looks like crap compared to 9.5... I've tried many sites and they all look so much better in 9.5. I was really hoping they would have fixed this since the 9.7 beta...

The UI feels nothing new since I've been using Opera Mini 5 since it was released... This looks very much the same...

[TheRem]

still no flash support. :(

[OlegKrikun]

support QVGA?

[owziee]

still no flash support. :(

I think we have to wait for adobe to release the full flash 10.1 for mobiles...

[ivanmatz]

works well in elfin thanks

[TMReuffurth]

Doesn´t work on my Touch HD. It starts, but then it stopps saying on the top bar Opera Mobile 10 beta and i can´t press any button and no page is coming up. Thought it would make some autoconfiguration for the first time, but even after 5 minutes nothing happens. Ok it´s stil beta, but shouldn´t it at least start? :D

[robertus3d]

It's work fine on my hd!
At the first time you must start it from start menu, so it complete the setup process with the aknowledgement, after you can use from internet tab!

Someone use landscape mode, i didn't find it...

[Hatshot]

Hello,
how can i import older Bookmark in Opera 10 ?
Rename the opera6.adr in anyone else or something?

Greetz

Hat





Sorry for my bad english...

[ivanmatz]

Damn no flash support still up till now

[corepda]

Oh I thought they have flash support this time. :( but otherwise they have done a good job.

[owziee]

Am I the only one who thinks the official 9.7 beta was better???

It used the accelerometer on my Diamond and had really cool animation effects when tilting the device into landscape and other stuff....

Is there a way to enable accelerometer in Opera 10???

Also is this version not opengl accelerated like 9.7 was, besides the new "improved" UI I think this version is a step back from 9.7.

[tsalta]

I don`t know some peoples already say about the new Opera 10 its nothing more than all other versions but i don`t think so.

1st when i install on my HD this beta i saw its much more faster than the 9.7 or 9.5 Also the view of the pages is much more better and clear and all the menus of the opera are just fast and awsome.

On the same time i just test for how long will load a page.

For example i choice a random page and i use Opera 9.5 then use Opera 10 for the same page in the same internet connection and i can say that this 10 BETA is minimum 3 times faster than the old Opera.

The Only bad things is that still not have a full Flash support but soon this will be fixed and then we will have a awsome fast beauty Browser for our devices

Maybe depends from ROM`s or....

If this matter im with NRG ROM from the signature.

[jodeltje]

I really don't like the single touch zooming, how annoying is that :( everytime I click a link it zoomes in and I have to zoom out again...

don't know if this is a good development, it is defenately quick, but it lacks in quite a few things.

[owziee]

Also the view of the pages is much more better and clear and all the menus of the opera are just fast and awsome.

Compare it to Opera mobile 9.5 and you will see that 9.5 shows the pages exactly as they look on the PC in overview mode... Opera 10 makes the sites look bad since it wraps the columns in overview before you've zoomed in. I can't stand using this browser until they've fixed this issue.

[vudu]

The turbo mode on 10 is a lot slower than the turbo mode in opera mini 5 beta. Very disappointed, as most times I don't care for perfect rendering...just want to be able to read what I want to read quickly.


I'll continue to use mini as my main browser, as it also uses a lot less memory. 10 is nice if I need to do some "real" web browsing though.

[Steeve24]

Is anyone else missing Opera link, it was great for Mini, but still not on 9.5-9.7-10, saw somewhere that it was not included on 9.7 as it was a beta, but if all they release is beta's then its never gonna happen :o(

[sealskej]

Any way, how to set Zoom more then 200%? Google reader text quite small on my Diamond. :(

[Masterface7]

Hi, Where does opera 10 install itself. I would really like to try it out but i do not want it to touch any of my opera 9.5 files in any way.

[pupakota]

Hi, Where does opera 10 install itself. I would really like to try it out but i do not want it to touch any of my opera 9.5 files in any way.

do not make people laughing, dude.
do not waste their time.
try to think , or buy iphone, or TWO.

[dsixda]

Hi, Where does opera 10 install itself. I would really like to try it out but i do not want it to touch any of my opera 9.5 files in any way.

\Program Files\Opera Mobile 10\

Your existing Opera Mobile will be untouched.
The newly installed Opera Mobile 10 automatically imports the bookmarks from your older version of Opera Mobile.

I noticed that the bookmarks in OM 10 stored somewhere under the profiles\datastorage folder. So I just back up that whole folder before I want to restore my bookmarks after a hard reset / flash.

[goldsfool]

do not make people laughing, dude.
do not waste their time.
try to think , or buy iphone, or TWO.

What kind of response is this? Who asked you to answer his question? :rolleyes:

[Masterface7]

\Program Files\Opera Mobile 10\

Your existing Opera Mobile will be untouched.
The newly installed Opera Mobile 10 automatically imports the bookmarks from your older version of Opera Mobile.

I noticed that the bookmarks are stored somewhere under the profiles\datastorage folder. So I just back up that whole folder before I want to restore my bookmarks after a hard reset / flash.

Thanks for the info, i was more worried about it overwriting a config file since i like to tweak it quite a bit. Ill give 10 a shot on my tp2 and see how well if at all the hardware will work.


do not make people laughing, dude.
do not waste their time.
try to think , or buy iphone, or TWO.

thanks for the helpful reply, next time i have a question ill make sure to pm you first for a lightning fast and relevant answer.

edit: If all 21 of pupakota's posts are that good we should compile a "best of" thread dedicated to him

[PatcheZ]

it's pretty darn quick, both the UI and with turbo enabled
however, why they removed the 'doubleclick' function for zoom is beyond me...

[Masterface7]

it's pretty darn quick, both the UI and with turbo enabled
however, why they removed the 'doubleclick' function for zoom is beyond me...

My guess is they are trying to make it more like opera mini, which is odd opera mini should be trying to emulate opera mobile not the other way around.

So i mapped the zoom bar to opera mobile 10 and it didnt zoom. What it does do is move the on screen mouse up and down the page, but no zoom. The fact that it pre renders the page so that text columns are already the size they need to be to zoom in on is not promising. In fact not sure why i would use this browser over opera mini 5.
no mention of zooming of anykind in opera config file

One thing they did improve is the opera:config they allow you to choose stuff instead of having to type in the filepath.

[owziee]

do not make people laughing, dude.
do not waste their time.
try to think , or buy iphone, or TWO.

How low can you go??

This is a friendly forum, don't try to act like an idiot :(

[Masterface7]

Hi, I say we close this thread and continue discussing opera 10 at the opera thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502

[drgopoos]

Awesome is the word to use.

WOrks perfect on my HTC HD and very comparable to safari in iphone..

Good job opera

[kuifje_xda-developers]

It eats 27MB of the 29MB free program memory I have right after a soft reset on my x51v :(

[TheRem]

there's no "Synchronize Opera" like Opera Mini and Opera Desktop.

and what the heck is this?
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/1862/clipboard01kat.jpg

[roisagi]

what about hebrew - it is presented reverse....

[amarguli]

what about hebrew - it is presented reverse....
Same here. Very disappointing :(

[andrew-in-woking]

Am I the only one who thinks the official 9.7 beta was better???

It used the accelerometer on my Diamond and had really cool animation effects when tilting the device into landscape and other stuff....

Is there a way to enable accelerometer in Opera 10???

Also is this version not opengl accelerated like 9.7 was, besides the new "improved" UI I think this version is a step back from 9.7.

Hi owziee

What version of Opera 9.7 was that?

Cheers

andrew-in-woking

[jsmith8858]

So far, it's ok, definitely buggy and hangs and crashes a bit.

Quick tip for VGA (and higher) devices: Go to "opera:config" (yes, it's still there!) and under "User Preferences" set the "Minimum Font Size" to "12". This will make mobile sites much more readable, like the mobile version of espn.com -- as it is right now, it look ugly and is hard to read (the text is tiny!) but if you adjust that setting, it is great and looks nice.

Probably more settings in the opera:config that can (or should) be tweaked to get things working well.

Anyone else find anything good to change?

[TheRem]

Anyone else find anything good to change?
a change of browser! :D
just kidding. ;) :)

[astart_start]

i just try to go to xda forum on my mobile, but it does not load!
The scroll requires more gesture to detect!

[AxlR]

In my device everythink works great.

[owziee]

Hi owziee

What version of Opera 9.7 was that?

Cheers

andrew-in-woking

The official beta Opera 9.7 beta 1 from Operas site... You can still get it from Operas FTP here: http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/970b1/

[Mehedict]

Sucks, compared to 9.7. Uncomfortable scrolling, no sync (I expected that) actually no new features.. Just a redesigned GUI with a couple of nice buttons. 1-2% faster, but it's not worth it.

I actually wonder there's no other good mobile browser except Opera; IE and Skyfire are far from good ones, I think.

[EyeAmRubber]

Damn no flash support still up till now
No browser supports Flash. Flash is a plugin. The browser needs to support plugins, not Flash in itself.

[owziee]

I think the Opera 10 UI is worse than 9.7b1...

9.7 kicks ass compared to 10, a few examples...

* 9.7 is opengl accelerated on my Diamond, 10 seems not...
* Awesome animation/transitions or whatever it's called? when tilting the device and it switches to landscape, looks like the iPhone browser...
* Hyper fast interface and only 1 click to access bookmarks...
What the heck is Opera doing with their mobile browser... They make it look exactly like Opera Mini 5 but now I actually prefer mini 5 to Opera Mobile 10...

Also they gave us the option to use turbo which is nice but the difference between Opera 10 & mini 5 is now minimal when using turbo, so maybe they won't release a new Opera Mobile after version 10 since it already works just like mini 5 apart from that Opera Mobile supports local rendering. The versions kind of melts into one very similar app so they don't need to develop 2 versions in the future, what do you think???

[EyeAmRubber]

9.7 is opengl accelerated on my Diamond, 10 seems not...
What makes you think 10 can't be accelerated? It's just a beta.

Awesome animation/transitions or whatever it's called? when tilting the device and it switches to landscape, looks like the iPhone browser...
What, 9.7? 10 has a much nicer UI.

What the heck is Opera doing with their mobile browser... They make it look exactly like Opera Mini 5
As they said, they are merging their products to give them a coherent UI. Makes perfect sense.

Also they gave us the option to use turbo which is nice but the difference between Opera 10 & mini 5 is now minimal when using turbo
Nope. There is a huge difference: Mini is a thin client, and depends on a server to do anything. Mobile is a full browser with full Ajax and all that stuff. Mini is really for low-end phones.

The versions kind of melts into one very similar app so they don't need to develop 2 versions in the future, what do you think???
Yes they do because Opera Mobile can do stuff Mini can't, but Mini can run on more phones.

Also, Mobile can support plugins (like the Flash plugin). Mini can't.

[Mehedict]

Dunno if this is normal or not, the Java-based Opera Mini runs terribly slow compared to native Windows Mobile Opera browser. I think it's definitely not suitable for use in WM phones.

[TheRem]

I actually wonder there's no other good mobile browser except Opera; IE and Skyfire are far from good ones, I think.
try UCWEB. ;)

No browser supports Flash. Flash is a plugin. The browser needs to support plugins, not Flash in itself.
Skyfire?

[Bushrod]

I can launch Citrix applications from a Web Interface 5.2 server with Opera 10 beta 1. That's a HUGE improvement over other earlier versions!

[owziee]

Dunno if this is normal or not, the Java-based Opera Mini runs terribly slow compared to native Windows Mobile Opera browser. I think it's definitely not suitable for use in WM phones.

Runs very fast on my Diamond... I'm using Jbed though...

[EyeAmRubber]

tSkyfire?
Nope. They have the plugin installed on the server which Skyfire needs to do anything. Then they convert it to a different format which is sent to the actual Skyfire browser on the phone. So again, no support for Flash in the browser itself.

[EyeAmRubber]

Dunno if this is normal or not, the Java-based Opera Mini runs terribly slow compared to native Windows Mobile Opera browser. I think it's definitely not suitable for use in WM phones.
That's probably because the JVM sucks.

[voxid]

How can I make Opera 10 beta autoturn (landscape/portrait) on my diamond2
voxid

[machina2]

\Program Files\Opera Mobile 10\
The newly installed Opera Mobile 10 automatically imports the bookmarks from your older version of Opera Mobile.

In my case it did not import my bookmarks... and it's nightmare to figure out how to import them now...

[DMAND]

No browser supports Flash.

IE in WM 6.5 does out the box, runs youtube embeded flash videos just fine when browsing

[-Arturo-]

IE in WM 6.5 does out the box, runs youtube embeded flash videos just fine when browsing


Any way to make it the default browser? I cannot find that entry under options.

[EyeAmRubber]

IE in WM 6.5 does out the box, runs youtube embeded flash videos just fine when browsing
That's because Adobe made a Flash plugin specifically for IE. IE still doesn't support Flash. It supports plugins, and they simply added a Flash plugin.

Of course, being the evil bastards that they are, Microsoft decided that other browsers were not to use their Flash plugin.

[SimpTheChimp]

In my case it did not import my bookmarks... and it's nightmare to figure out how to import them now...

Yep, mine didn't import either... There must be a way to get them to import, or a way to manually do it.

[pilgrim011]

Is anyone else having problems with images not loading? When phone is connected to PC, or I'm using WiFi, everything is ok, but over GSM/3G (GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSDPA) network I cannot see any images - only blank spots where the picture should be...:( Of course, "load images" is enabled.:confused:

[palmboy5]

http://www.mylilsite.net/images/touchpro/opera10-70tabs.png
70 Tabs (blank tabs except current) :D
I decided to stop wasting my time at 70, it could have gone on even more.

[benko286]

http://www.mylilsite.net/images/touchpro/opera10-70tabs.png
70 Tabs (blank tabs except current) :D
I decided to stop wasting my time at 70, it could have gone on even more.
I can imagine how much ram it uses :D

[christophocles]

\Program Files\Opera Mobile 10\

Your existing Opera Mobile will be untouched.
The newly installed Opera Mobile 10 automatically imports the bookmarks from your older version of Opera Mobile.

I noticed that the bookmarks in OM 10 stored somewhere under the profiles\datastorage folder. So I just back up that whole folder before I want to restore my bookmarks after a hard reset / flash.

My bookmarks did not import. I have saved the opera6.adr and searches.ini files from 9.5 but the the opera mobile 10 beta uses some kind of crappy binary format for bookmarks and searches. You are correct, they are in the \datastorage folder and the dat files contain the data. I verified my bookmarks are in there using a hex editor on my PC :)

This is really stupid, I don't want to have to figure out how to hack their binary format just to import my freaking bookmarks. :mad: I think I will go back to 9.7 because of this.

If they would just ADD SYNC SUPPORT then none of this would matter.

[palmboy5]

I can imagine how much ram it uses :D
Actually I can't tell because it probably started using virtual memory. I had ~30MB free RAM for much of the tabbing process.

[jack_butler]

somehow.. doesnt work fine on my TP2. :(

Did i something wrong? It starts the Browser, shows websites, but menu doesnt come up or close by double klick on menubutton.

Zoomslider doesnt work too.. It seems like a shitty version.. i still use the opera 9.7.. its great, but how can i use the zoomslider? Any ideas?

[m0nkeyman]

somehow.. doesnt work fine on my TP2. :(

Did i something wrong? It starts the Browser, shows websites, but menu doesnt come up or close by double klick on menubutton.

Zoomslider doesnt work too.. It seems like a shitty version.. i still use the opera 9.7.. its great, but how can i use the zoomslider? Any ideas?

There isn't a zoom slider as far as I know.

[tsukasa21]

No problems with Omnia (WM 23504)
Accelerometer is ok
Loading is really faster now
No more "lag" when scrolling
But still waiting for sync support (and flash too ;) )

[191]

Has anyone figured out how to add your own images or icons to the page shortcuts on the startup screen, some of the shortcuts are just blank pages, but even the ones that have screenshots are really hard to make out. Guess it would just be cool to add your own icon for each page.

-Brian

[daliGR]

Has anyone figured out how to add your own images or icons to the page shortcuts on the startup screen, some of the shortcuts are just blank pages, but even the ones that have screenshots are really hard to make out. Guess it would just be cool to add your own icon for each page.

-Brian

Have the same problem with blank thumbnails, the only one sticking is Wikipedia... also G-Sensor not working either... Phone is HTC Touch HD, Opera mobile 10b1

Dimi

[drjim]

Have the same problem with blank thumbnails, the only one sticking is Wikipedia... also G-Sensor not working either... Phone is HTC Touch HD, Opera mobile 10b1

Dimi

I had the same question about the push pages and the Home screen buttons when O10 launches.

[nap007]

works badly on my omnia 2 wm6.5

the preinstalled 9.5 also worse than the one on xperia x1

something is wrong with samsung processor or such?

[roisagi]

same here: does not work well on omnia pro (b-7610)

[GUY251]

HELLO guys
i installed opera 10 beta, but it keeps stucking my kaiser, im using WN 6.1 with shifu v20 rom
i erased the opera 10 and installed it few a times, but it keeps stucking the system
2-it shows me hebrew on mirror style, but with opera 9.5 every thing is ok .

does anybody know what to do ,im really into that opera 10 ?
thanks

[GUY251]

is there any way to update the version from the program 9.5 itself

[tsalta]

Hello Guys i saw few things.. that wana share with you
So The OPERA 10 Beta witch is Avalible Now for free download at Opera.com is not the Same Browser that they SHOW to us when they make advertisement of the New Opera 10 Beta.

What i saw is that in Opera 10 when you click Settings there u have More settings if you watch careful will see that there have a " Landscape Mode" But when u Download the Version and install it on your device you see that this Missing.

Also is writen that the Opera 10 have build Auto-Rotation witch is not true again!!!

So what i think.. maybe when they release the official Opera 10 this will avalible and but Now we can`t have it.

See what i mean!!!
================================================== ================
Landscape mode

Browse however is most comfortable to you. Landscape mode allows you to view Opera Mobile 10 on your phone in landscape.
================================================== ================
NOT TRUE


================================================== ================
Auto-Rotation

On phones that support auto-rotation Opera Mobile 10 will automatically switch between portrait and landscape modes.
================================================== ================
NOT TRUE

This all is writen under Opera Mobile features you can chek this and watch the video to see what i mean.

[roisagi]

i hace compared opera 10 with opera 93.5 and iris browser, and opera 10 is the slowest.

opera 9.5 is 30% faster, and iris browser is 45% faster.

device:
samsung omnia pro (b7610).
wm 6.1

[SUNNY954]

This work on mine thx man

[w100d001]

Does anyone know if the Opera Beta versions have expiry dates!

[gioiellino]

http://rapidshare.com/files/315148734/Opera_Mobile_10_WM_beta_2.rar.html

[zorro_sn]

Has anyone been able to get this working on the Samusng Jack 6.5? Or is there a mobile version prior to this that works? I tried installing 10 beta and I am not able to use my soft keys. Is this just for touch screen phones?

On another note, I am using the latest opera mini which works fine, but I hate how java app always asks me if it's ok to access the internet. Any ideas on how to turn that off?

[kasim1]

Am I the only one who thinks the official 9.7 beta was better???

It used the accelerometer on my Diamond and had really cool animation effects when tilting the device into landscape and other stuff....

Is there a way to enable accelerometer in Opera 10???

Also is this version not opengl accelerated like 9.7 was, besides the new "improved" UI I think this version is a step back from 9.7.

+1
I'm with u. 9.7 was much better, but i can't find a cab

[kasim1]

The official beta Opera 9.7 beta 1 from Operas site... You can still get it from Operas FTP here: http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/970b1/

Dude thanx for a link, i was looking for a while

[palmboy5]

Opera Mobile 10 has so far been the only browser I've seen that has actual native 100% zoom on images. In Opera 9.x and Iris, even at "100%" zoom, the zoom isn't quite right, not native. Even when one tries to get to a zoom level closest to Opera Mobile 10's 100% zoom, it just doesn't work out.

For example, here is a sample picture of mine that I went to in Opera Mobile 10 and Iris 1.1.9:
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/bee/sdbee2.jpg

Opera Mobile 10 beta - 100% zoom
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/touchpro/bee2opera10-1.png

Iris Browser 1.1.9 - closest zoom to Opera's 100%
http://www.mylilsite.net/images/touchpro/bee2iris119-1.png

How come browsers before Opera Mobile 10 didn't even have native viewing of images? This new Opera has definitely become my browser of choice for reading web comics and anything else with any sort of relevance to images (a lot...).

[m0nkeyman]

Opera Mobile 10 Beta 2U Is out and it rocks over the first Beta 2. I didn't get mine from the opera site. But I just checked and let alone on there site it says beta 2 when you go to download it its beta 2U. So should be the same as what I have. It makes every browser Ive ever used look slow! and works smooth as hell on my diamound.