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By zljk, Junior Member on 6th November 2011, 09:29 AM
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What are experiences of current owners of Nexus phones ? My Desire Z is rooted ( only rooted, don't have a custom ROM), and I never got Gingerbread update so I'd hate the same thing happening to G Nexus.

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6th November 2011, 10:32 AM |#2  
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What are experiences of current owners of Nexus phones ? My Desire Z is rooted ( only rooted, don't have a custom ROM), and I never got Gingerbread update so I'd hate the same thing happening to G Nexus.

Thanks.

That will never happen with the GN. When you own this phone you're first in line for the updates until the next is coming out then you're second but still faster than the others.

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6th November 2011, 06:25 PM |#3  
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When you're rooted you can't get the OTA updates. You have to unroot to apply them. That's true for all Android phones.
6th November 2011, 06:41 PM |#4  
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You cant get them at all?
Not even: get update and apply it, loose root because of the update, reroot?


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6th November 2011, 06:43 PM |#5  
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You cant get them at all?
Not even: get update and apply it, loose root because of the update, reroot?


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you could do that, but chances are someone will get the OTA before you and pre root it for everyones pleasure and you can just flash that via recovery
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You cant get them at all?
Not even: get update and apply it, loose root because of the update, reroot?


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If my experiences with my OG Droid match up with the Nexus line, if you've only rooted and haven't actually installed another ROM, you should be able to apply the OTA update and lose root because of it. Then just root again.
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When you're rooted you can't get the OTA updates. You have to unroot to apply them. That's true for all Android phones.

I've seen some threads claiming that root itself doesn't affect updates, but changing of data on system partition.... Was kind of hoping there is a way to have my cake and eat it too - don't mind having to root the phone all over again after the OTA....

Anyhow - as an alternative, is there a way to get official Nexus updates ( stock ) using other channels except OTA ? What was happening with old Nexus phones ?
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I've seen some threads claiming that root itself doesn't affect updates, but changing of data on system partition.... Was kind of hoping there is a way to have my cake and eat it too - don't mind having to root the phone all over again after the OTA....

Anyhow - as an alternative, is there a way to get official Nexus updates ( stock ) using other channels except OTA ? What was happening with old Nexus phones ?

The alternate way to get official Nexus updates is to download the update zip file once someone copies it off their device and uploads it, and install it in whatever fashion works.
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6th November 2011, 07:23 PM |#9  
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I rooted my Nexus One without unlocking the bootloader or using custom recovery. I definitely still got OTA updates and they worked fine, but would unroot the phone.

The solution is to use a custom recovery and apply the update .zip manually, then reflash superuser before rebooting. Whenever an OTA update comes out, someone eventually uses logcat to get the URL to the zip and posts it so anyone can download it.

I was rooted on Froyo and got the OTA update to Gingerbread no problem, but I lost root. I eventually got root again (Gingerbreak) and when the 2.3.4 update came out, I did it manually in custom recovery to keep root.

Now I run CM7.1 so I definitely don't get OTA updates from Google
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6th November 2011, 09:34 PM |#10  
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Not even: get update and apply it, loose root because of the update, reroot?


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It will often download and you can try but it will either fail, unroot you, or cause troubles.

You're best off applying the pre-rooted update, or unrooting and taking the OTA.
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When you're rooted you can't get the OTA updates. You have to unroot to apply them. That's true for all Android phones.

True. However it's trivial to repackage an OTA update to a rooted update and since it's very compatible with the source in AOSP and you get working drivers very early you can start messing around with it straight away.

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