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Sorry, don't know if I am in the right place or not...

I have a Sprint Samsung S3 that I would like to root. I have never done this before, but I consider myself sorta "tech-savy". I have a few questions...

1. My phone has the OTA 4.4.2 update. Is it even possible? This website says it is (Can't post a link but its from editandroid dot com. If you do a google search of ROOT SPRINT S3 with 4.4.2, it will show up) If not, where can I find a good, safe root (rom)? I don't need all the thrills and such unless its really cool. I really just want a regular custom rom that looks like the stock 4.4.2 rom.

2. Can you un-root back to stock if you want to after you root this phone so if you need to have it warrantied, etc??

I apologize if this has been answered, but everything I have come across doesn't make really much sense (I am tech-savy but I also need it in plain English sometimes lol). I have the ability to do voice free voice chat through a teamspeak server that we use for our clan if someone would be willing to help me through this )
 
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1 it certainly is possible. Actually, easy. There are many different ways to root, so your best bet is to read though s3 general and s3 questions and answers posts, then pick how you want to go about it. There are also videos on YouTube.

2 on 4.4.2 once you trip Knox (by installing a custom recovery) you cannot "un-trip" it. So, your warranty will be void. But to many here (myself included) it's not that big of any issue...

*edit* you can find roms under s3 Android development. A lot of them will have root on install (so you won't need to root separately). Be sure to check out the first post on each rom. That's where you'll find out what features it has...

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1 it certainly is possible. Actually, easy. There are many different ways to root, so your best bet is to read though s3 general and s3 questions and answers posts, then pick how you want to go about it. There are also videos on YouTube.

2 on 4.4.2 once you trip Knox (by installing a custom recovery) you cannot "un-trip" it. So, your warranty will be void. But to many here (myself included) it's not that big of any issue...

*edit* you can find roms under s3 Android development. A lot of them will have root on install (so you won't need to root separately). Be sure to check out the first post on each rom. That's where you'll find out what features it has...

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Thank you for the information.

A couple more questions:

1. Can I back up my phone so if I want to revert back to stock ROM if I ever want to (Regardless of tripping KNOX)?
If so, how and what should I use?

2. Is there a STOCK ROM (ROOTED) out there? I really want it to be stable unless there is some cool "can't live without" feature of another ROM. I really just want root access for Foxfi mainly, but having root for other things would be nice as well (seeing stuff that should be available like partial wakelocks, etc)

3. Is rooting the phone with a non-stock ROM safe? (This is where my knowledge of the tech goes out the window). I mean I don't want some ROM on my phone that is going to be sending my information to some dude in india to steal.

4. I have noticed that there are several programs to put the rom on the phone, like Odin v3.07, for example. What is this program? Can any of these programs put any ROM on or does it have to be specific to the ROM you want to use? There there is also the Recovery, and then the ROM, correct? So 3 total programs? Or is the recovery built into the ROM? The recovery is basically the program you get when you hold Vol up, home and Power until it boots right? I noticed you talked about programs that root and ROM all in one step. Not sure of what you mean...

5. Will this "unlock" my phone? (Make it multiple carrier ready)

(Sorry, bear with me. I am completely new to the phone rooting tech and terminology... )

I ask if someone would be gracious enough to walk me through this or help my find what I am looking for using my teamspeak server.... It doesn't cost anything to download. My computer tech guy I converse with has no idea about phones. I already asked him to walk me through it. He said he's unlocked phones but never had the need to try and root one...

Sorry for being a noob when it comes to this.
 
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Thank you for the information.

A couple more questions:

1. Can I back up my phone so if I want to revert back to stock ROM if I ever want to (Regardless of tripping KNOX)?
If so, how and what should I use?

2. Is there a STOCK ROM (ROOTED) out there? I really want it to be stable unless there is some cool "can't live without" feature of another ROM. I really just want root access for Foxfi mainly, but having root for other things would be nice as well (seeing stuff that should be available like partial wakelocks, etc)

3. Is rooting the phone with a non-stock ROM safe? (This is where my knowledge of the tech goes out the window). I mean I don't want some ROM on my phone that is going to be sending my information to some dude in india to steal.

4. I have noticed that there are several programs to put the rom on the phone, like Odin v3.07, for example. What is this program? Can any of these programs put any ROM on or does it have to be specific to the ROM you want to use? There there is also the Recovery, and then the ROM, correct? So 3 total programs? Or is the recovery built into the ROM? The recovery is basically the program you get when you hold Vol up, home and Power until it boots right? I noticed you talked about programs that root and ROM all in one step. Not sure of what you mean...

5. Will this "unlock" my phone? (Make it multiple carrier ready)

(Sorry, bear with me. I am completely new to the phone rooting tech and terminology... )

I ask if someone would be gracious enough to walk me through this or help my find what I am looking for using my teamspeak server.... It doesn't cost anything to download. My computer tech guy I converse with has no idea about phones. I already asked him to walk me through it. He said he's unlocked phones but never had the need to try and root one...

Sorry for being a noob when it comes to this.
im just gonna say this there's a hack type thing for WiFi on stock and custom TouchWiz Roms its found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2224083 and you flash the one that is for the Rom you're currently on and you can flash with Philz Recovery <----you can also make the backups with this recovery
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and helping with Flappy Bird's Family

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Past phones: latest to oldest
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Galaxy S 4G 3rd time
myTouch 3G slide
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T-mobile myTouch
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Sensation 4G
Moto Backflip
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Thank you for the information.

A couple more questions:

1. Can I back up my phone so if I want to revert back to stock ROM if I ever want to (Regardless of tripping KNOX)?
If so, how and what should I use?
Use PhilZ Touch Recovery to make a nandroid backup. Always recommended to have one or more backups handy and to make a new backup before any major changes.

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2. Is there a STOCK ROM (ROOTED) out there? I really want it to be stable unless there is some cool "can't live without" feature of another ROM. I really just want root access for Foxfi mainly, but having root for other things would be nice as well (seeing stuff that should be available like partial wakelocks, etc)
Yep. In the development (non-original) section. @CNexus' stock rooted Odexed or Deodexed ND8.

Follow @6th_Hokage advice for a built in solution. Better than Foxfi.

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3. Is rooting the phone with a non-stock ROM safe? (This is where my knowledge of the tech goes out the window). I mean I don't want some ROM on my phone that is going to be sending my information to some dude in india to steal.
Short answer, yes.

Not as short an answer, only as safe as much as you trust the developer of the ROM you choose. I can personally vouch for @CNexus, @bilgerryan, @rwilco12, @moonknightus, @Chadthepathfinder and several themers and various other users.

I've never had any problems with any custom ROM I've used in three different Android phones over the last four years.

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4. I have noticed that there are several programs to put the rom on the phone, like Odin v3.07, for example. What is this program?
Odin is for only flashing tar and tar.md5 files to your phone. It has other uses as well. The only ROM it's designed to put on your phone is the stock unrooted one, ND8 being the latest. This will wipe everything in your phone including internal storage.

It is also commonly used to put the phone's first custom recovery on, PhilZ Touch Recovery recommended.

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Can any of these programs put any ROM on or does it have to be specific to the ROM you want to use?
A custom recovery can generally put any custom ROM on. Sometimes a newer version of a ROM might require a newer version of a custom recovery in order to either be flashed correctly or be able to backup and restore nandroid backups correctly.

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There there is also the Recovery, and then the ROM, correct? So 3 total programs? Or is the recovery built into the ROM?
The recovery isn't usually included in custom ROMs. The original stock unrooted ROM that you would Odin to the phone includes absolutely everything.

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The recovery is basically the program you get when you hold Vol up, home and Power until it boots right? I noticed you talked about programs that root and ROM all in one step. Not sure of what you mean...
Yes. Any custom ROM is normally already rooted so if you flash one, there's no need to root before or after. I don't know if he was referring to that or something else that might just confuse you so I'm not going to go into details. ☺

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5. Will this "unlock" my phone? (Make it multiple carrier ready)
No. Although I think (only limited experience with this so correct me if I'm wrong) only GSM phones really ever need unlocked, or at least phones with user replaceable SIM cards.

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(Sorry, bear with me. I am completely new to the phone rooting tech and terminology... )

I ask if someone would be gracious enough to walk me through this or help my find what I am looking for using my teamspeak server.... It doesn't cost anything to download. My computer tech guy I converse with has no idea about phones. I already asked him to walk me through it. He said he's unlocked phones but never had the need to try and root one...

Sorry for being a noob when it comes to this.
I didn't read the previous posts so sorry if I'm repeating something.

1. Find Odin 3.07 or 3.09 either in development (non-original) section or Google for it. Download it on your PC.

2. Find the very latest tar file of PhilZ Touch Recovery in the same section. Download it on your PC.

2b. Download the rooted stock or custom ROM you want on your phone (not your PC). If you're currently using stock TouchWiz 4.4.2, you're fine to try anything. If not, you'll have to either get on stock TouchWiz 4.4.2 first or download anything for TouchWiz 4.3 or older - or a completely custom non-TouchWiz ROM.

3. Launch Odin on your Windows PC.
4. Turn your phone off.

5. Put your phone in Download mode by pressing and holding the DOWN volume and Home buttons at the same time, and also press and hold the power button until you see anything at all on the screen, then let go.

Same as going into recovery but volume down instead of up.

6. Connect the phone to your Windows PC with a reliable, preferably the original USB cable.

7. Might take Windows a minute the first time to load the drivers. When you see in Odin in one of the empty squares at the top something like "COM 5", then you're good to continue.

8. Click the PDA button in Odin and select the PhilZ Touch Recovery tar file you downloaded.

9. If Odin lets you, uncheck the auto restart checkbox.

10. Click Start in Odin. Should only take 10 seconds if that.

11. When Odin says complete, unplug your phone, pop the battery out to turn it off, put it back in, and go into recovery mode (same as Download mode but volume UP instead of down).

12. Use PhilZ Touch Recovery to flash the rooted custom ROM you downloaded.

13. Choose reboot in recovery.

Recovery FLASHABLE version now posted near the bottom of the first post of the 3Minit Battery Mod for Conquest-Singularity and both Stock ND8 and NDC with 1000+ animated battery icons..

[BATTERY] Plasma Battery! 🆕🆒🆓 & wickeddecimalbarwide_colors

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Thank you very much! Your information was very helpful. It's what I was looking for.

Last question, I hope...

Is there a way to keep my apps and stuff like an Ota does or do I lose everything in the process? It's not a big deal, just would be nice not to have to reinstall everything.

There was something else but now I can't remember.
 
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Thank you very much! Your information was very helpful. It's what I was looking for.

Last question, I hope...

Is there a way to keep my apps and stuff like an Ota does or do I lose everything in the process? It's not a big deal, just would be nice not to have to reinstall everything.

There was something else but now I can't remember.
well if you use the same Google account if you were to flash another rom the apps you previously had installed including your contacts on that account will reinstall after the initial set up but you will have to re-log in to every app that requires it
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my work:

Custom Splash Screen Sprint/Boost/Virgin Mobile s3 Touchwiz Roms and some AOSP Roms


sorta my work :P Viper4Andriod S3 APP and Settings

and helping with Flappy Bird's Family

current phone:
Samsung Galaxy S3,Wicked X v7.2 ND8 with NDC Modem

Past phones: latest to oldest
Galaxy Infuse 4G
Galaxy S 4G 3rd time
myTouch 3G slide
Galaxy S 4G 2nd time
T-mobile myTouch
Galaxy S 4G
Sensation 4G
Moto Backflip
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Yep. In the development (non-original) section. @CNexus' stock rooted Odexed or Deodexed ND8.

Follow @6th_Hokage advice for a built in solution. Better than Foxfi.


Could you give me a link as to specifically where I am looking for this forum of ROMS? I can't seem to find it.

And the instructions to the "hack" for wi-fi tethering is confusing to me. Do I download each of those files? Do I have to install a different rom or can it just "fix" my current original ROM? I don't know what all the ND8 or Odexed or DeOdexed stuff means...
 
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Could you give me a link as to specifically where I am looking for this forum of ROMS? I can't seem to find it.

And the instructions to the "hack" for wi-fi tethering is confusing to me. Do I download each of those files? Do I have to install a different rom or can it just "fix" my current original ROM? I don't know what all the ND8 or Odexed or DeOdexed stuff means...
ND8 is the bootloader for sprint and NDC is the bootloader for Boost/Virgin. Odexed has extra files in the system app/Priv-app like Samsung Camera Odex file and so on.....DeOdexed doesn't have those extra Odex files.....and sorry for the late reply
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Custom Splash Screen Sprint/Boost/Virgin Mobile s3 Touchwiz Roms and some AOSP Roms


sorta my work :P Viper4Andriod S3 APP and Settings

and helping with Flappy Bird's Family

current phone:
Samsung Galaxy S3,Wicked X v7.2 ND8 with NDC Modem

Past phones: latest to oldest
Galaxy Infuse 4G
Galaxy S 4G 3rd time
myTouch 3G slide
Galaxy S 4G 2nd time
T-mobile myTouch
Galaxy S 4G
Sensation 4G
Moto Backflip
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Could you give me a link as to specifically where I am looking for this forum of ROMS? I can't seem to find it.
Are you navigating this forum in Tapatalk, the free XDA only version, or through a Web browser on the phone, or on the PC?

The section you posted this thread in is the Q&A section:



If you back up to the main Sprint S3 section:



And click on Development (non-original), you'll find what you need:



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And the instructions to the "hack" for wi-fi tethering is confusing to me. Do I download each of those files? Do I have to install a different rom or can it just "fix" my current original ROM? I don't know what all the ND8 or Odexed or DeOdexed stuff means...
If you are completely stock, you'll be Odexed and want the Odexed version of the ND8 hotspot mod. You'll need to flash it from a custom recovery, preferably the very latest PhilZ Touch Recovery.

v2.0 flashable version now posted near the bottom of the first post of v2.0 FLASHABLE-3Minit 1000+ Batteries for Conquest:Singularity v8 & v1.0 for NDC/ND8..

[BATTERY] Plasma Battery! 🆕🆒🆓 & wickeddecimalbarwide_colors, also available through the 3Minit Battery Mod, #22 in the Users folder

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