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Is it alright to root the device before unlocking boot loader later?

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5th January 2014, 11:27 PM   |  #21  
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Originally Posted by rootSU

Actually it is true. You must unlock the nexus 5 bootloader to root

I guess theoretically you could root without unlocking the bootloader, but it would probably require a substantial amount of hacking. The phone I had before the N5 was like that, it was an AT&T Galaxy S4, and the bootloader was locked down, but it was still rootable with a CF script. Of course this is moot seeing as the Nexus is easily unlockable.
5th January 2014, 11:48 PM   |  #22  
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I guess theoretically you could root without unlocking the bootloader, but it would probably require a substantial amount of hacking. The phone I had before the N5 was like that, it was an AT&T Galaxy S4, and the bootloader was locked down, but it was still rootable with a CF script. Of course this is moot seeing as the Nexus is easily unlockable.

Lots of other phones can be rooted without unlocking the bootloader. Some don't even have locked bootloaders and yes, in theory an exploit could be found that roots this phone, however - in this nexus 5 thread, the op has asked a question and does not want an answer pertaining to theory or other devices.

When im answering nexus 5 specific threads, I shouldn't have to put a disclaimer that I am talking about the nexus 5. It is a given. Theory and other phones does not help the op root his nexus 5

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5th January 2014, 11:56 PM   |  #23  
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Originally Posted by cmstlist

If you relock, then in the future you'll have to wipe your phone.

Not if you use this:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...1.bootunlocker

Unlocking the bootloader the first time requires fastboot, however.
6th January 2014, 11:31 AM   |  #24  
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Originally Posted by Wakamatsu

Not if you use this:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...1.bootunlocker

Unlocking the bootloader the first time requires fastboot, however.

Nonetheless there are instances where this will not be an option. It is entirely conceivable to accidentally flash yourself into a corner where you have stock or otherwise unusable recovery, and a non-bootable system partition. Should this happen, the only way to save your data would be if you already have an unlocked bootloader so you can reflash custom recovery and get in at your data.
6th January 2014, 11:39 AM   |  #25  
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Nonetheless there are instances where this will not be an option. It is entirely conceivable to accidentally flash yourself into a corner where you have stock or otherwise unusable recovery, and a non-bootable system partition. Should this happen, the only way to save your data would be if you already have an unlocked bootloader so you can reflash custom recovery and get in at your data.

Funny you should post. I just derped root on my phone. With bootloader locked and with stock recovery, my only option to reroot is fastboot. =\
6th January 2014, 08:22 PM   |  #26  
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Funny you should post. I just derped root on my phone. With bootloader locked and with stock recovery, my only option to reroot is fastboot. =\

Yeah... it happens.

In my case I had a situation with my Galaxy Nexus where its internal memory had a tendency to self-corrupt and render the phone into a mean boot-looping machine. Due to to the already-unlocked bootloader I was still able to get in and save my text messages. I would have been able to save my files photos and app data too but I unwittingly flashed over userdata.img which blanked my internal storage including nandroid backup.

I have never had warranty issues with the bootloader so that is not a concern. I recognize though that an unlocked bootloader is a potential security risk if someone steals your phone.
6th January 2014, 09:30 PM   |  #27  
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I recognize though that an unlocked bootloader is a potential security risk if someone steals your phone.

That's why I have it set up the way I did. Worked a little too well.

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