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By Duckone, Junior Member on 10th January 2014, 01:47 PM
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Hi Dear all,

I am using wug's root toolkit to unlock bootloader, flash CWM and root my N5

However, the quesstion is, can i flash CWM without root by use toolkit? therefore i may make my Nandroid backup before root. Would be any error?

Sorry for my bad english.

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10th January 2014, 01:55 PM |#2  
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Originally Posted by Duckone

Hi Dear all,

I am using wug's root toolkit to unlock bootloader, flash CWM and root my N5

However, the quesstion is, can i flash CWM without root by use toolkit? therefore i may make my Nandroid backup before root. Would be any error?

Sorry for my bad english.

Thanks everyone

1) DO NOT USE TOOLKITS. We Think it is better to learn the steps yourself by following teh "how to unlock bootloader" tutorial stuck at top of general forum.

2) If you read the guide in General (see answer 1), you cannot root until you have CWM recovery. So yes, you cna take a backup before root. However, you cannot have CWM until you unlock bootloader, and unlock bootloader wipes device.

Backup solutions all in "How to unlock bootloader" sticky thread in general.
10th January 2014, 03:42 PM |#3  
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1) DO NOT USE TOOLKITS. We Think it is better to learn the steps yourself by following teh "how to unlock bootloader" tutorial stuck at top of general forum.

2) If you read the guide in General (see answer 1), you cannot root until you have CWM recovery. So yes, you cna take a backup before root. However, you cannot have CWM until you unlock bootloader, and unlock bootloader wipes device.

Backup solutions all in "How to unlock bootloader" sticky thread in general.


Thanks for your kind reply, will try to process without root toolkit!
10th January 2014, 04:31 PM |#4  
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1) DO NOT USE TOOLKITS. We Think it is better to learn the steps yourself by following teh "how to unlock bootloader" tutorial stuck at top of general forum.

2) If you read the guide in General (see answer 1), you cannot root until you have CWM recovery. So yes, you cna take a backup before root. However, you cannot have CWM until you unlock bootloader, and unlock bootloader wipes device.

Backup solutions all in "How to unlock bootloader" sticky thread in general.

2. Wouldn't fastboot boot recovery.img not allow you to make a nandroid backup, or does the nandroid need root access?
10th January 2014, 05:11 PM |#5  
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2. Wouldn't fastboot boot recovery.img not allow you to make a nandroid backup, or does the nandroid need root access?

No you don't need root to take a nandroid of android. Root only affects android when its running,.giving the user access to the root of the device, but recovery already has that access so no binary required in android.

Can you fastboot boot without unlock? If so then it must be possible

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10th January 2014, 05:13 PM |#6  
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That I've not tried, probably not...
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That I've not tried, probably not...

Well if it can, it should work. If I remember ill test later

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10th January 2014, 09:26 PM |#8  
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Has anyone tried the adb backup on the Nexus 5? I imagine that'd work as a backup solution before unlocking. That or Helium
10th January 2014, 10:21 PM |#9  
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Originally Posted by Duckone

Hi Dear all,

I am using wug's root toolkit to unlock bootloader, flash CWM and root my N5

However, the quesstion is, can i flash CWM without root by use toolkit? therefore i may make my Nandroid backup before root. Would be any error?

Sorry for my bad english.

Thanks everyone

Ditch the toolkit (save a puppy). Learn about fastboot and adb. Learn about custom recoveries, rooting, and all it entails. Learn how to troubleshoot should you run into any issues. Do your homework first to save yourself the trouble of having to start another "Help I bricked my phone" thread.

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No you don't need root to take a nandroid of android. Root only affects android when its running,.giving the user access to the root of the device, but recovery already has that access so no binary required in android.

Can you fastboot boot without unlock? If so then it must be possible

No you can't without first unlocking the bootloader.
10th January 2014, 10:25 PM |#10  
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Ditch the toolkit (save a puppy). Learn about fastboot and adb. Learn about custom recoveries, rooting, and all it entails. Learn how to troubleshoot should you run into any issues. Do your homework first to save yourself the trouble of having to start another "Help I bricked my phone" thread.

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11th January 2014, 10:14 AM |#11  
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Finally, i tried. I have unlocked the bootloader, however, i try to flash the custom recovery CWM, it just start for once, and prompt me to root the device ( i reject). In my case, i trust i may not flash CWM without root.

But i got one more question, when i flash the CWM and it start for once, just like temp boot in CWM, may i try to make Nandroid backup on that boot?

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