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Question [Q] Can I get S-Off without flashing a different ROM?

I have the 1.57 hboot and TWRP, stock ROM and kernel. Is there a way to get S-Off without flashing a different ROM? I like my phone the way it is except for the bloatware. I can uninstall it with Titanium Backup but every time I reboot, it just reinstalls it all. I have made a filter with all the bloat in TT that I run to quickly remove it but it would be nice to be able to reboot without uninstalling all the bloat each time. Is there a way to gain write permissions to the system partition without getting S-Off? I'm not very savvy when it comes to the more complicated processes involving using ADB and command lines, by the way, so if it involves a lot of that I may just have to keep doing what I'm doing. Any help or points in the right direction would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
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If Firewater won't S-OFF your phone with the stock ROM, then your next step would be to create a nandroid of your current stock ROM, flash a custom ROM and try Firewater again. If it's successful in gaining S-OFF, you can then restore the nandroid of stock. If Firewater comes back with the message saying it can't gain S-OFF no matter what you try, then you're stuck S-ON for now. Restore your nandroid and you're back to where you started.

If you just want to remove the bloatware and not have it return, and don't care about getting S-OFF, I believe you can flash an insecure kernel, such as ElementalX. After you install the insecure kernel, run your script to delete the bloatware and it should be gone for good.

I'm not 100% positive about this though, maybe more like 98%, b/c I've been S-OFF from the beginning and not entirely sure on the limitation of being S-On w/ unlocked bootloader. But I'm running the stock ROM, with ElementalX kernel and I've removed bloatware and it doesn't come back for me.
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If Firewater won't S-OFF your phone with the stock ROM, then your next step would be to create a nandroid of your current stock ROM, flash a custom ROM and try Firewater again. If it's successful in gaining S-OFF, you can then restore the nandroid of stock. If Firewater comes back with the message saying it can't gain S-OFF no matter what you try, then you're stuck S-ON for now. Restore your nandroid and you're back to where you started.

If you just want to remove the bloatware and not have it return, and don't care about getting S-OFF, I believe you can flash an insecure kernel, such as ElementalX. After you install the insecure kernel, run your script to delete the bloatware and it should be gone for good.

I'm not 100% positive about this though, maybe more like 98%, b/c I've been S-OFF from the beginning and not entirely sure on the limitation of being S-On w/ unlocked bootloader. But I'm running the stock ROM, with ElementalX kernel and I've removed bloatware and it doesn't come back for me.
Thanks! This is just the information I was looking for. I won't be able to try it for a week or so, but when I do I'll post back here with the results.
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