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20th June 2014, 02:57 PM   |  #71  
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I think the first step would be to be able to install apk. I mean we dont need Google proprietary services and Play Store, cause we always have FOSS and F-droid.
4th July 2014, 10:30 PM   |  #72  
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So, is there anywhere a "I would totally pay money to use the full Sailfish OS with Alien Dalvik on my phone" list where I can add my name to encourage Jolla to sell ports / licenses with the Alien Dalvik included?
I'm a big fan of Sailfish and it's concept, but have bought a Nexus 5 because I haven't yet heard of Jolla then. Having an alternative to Android would be so great, but without the native support for APKs there is a huge part missing. So I would totally pay money to get that.
5th July 2014, 06:35 PM   |  #73  
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So, is there anywhere a "I would totally pay money to use the full Sailfish OS with Alien Dalvik on my phone" list where I can add my name to encourage Jolla to sell ports / licenses with the Alien Dalvik included?
I'm a big fan of Sailfish and it's concept, but have bought a Nexus 5 because I haven't yet heard of Jolla then. Having an alternative to Android would be so great, but without the native support for APKs there is a huge part missing. So I would totally pay money to get that.

Admittedly in my case the only thing I need to switch to Sailfish as my primary mobile system is either Google Voice support or a good Google Voice alternative. I've been looking at Twilio, but from what I understand I won't be able to make phone calls through Twilio somewhere where internet access is present but not fast enough for proper VoIP. Once I figure out that question I don't really need any Dalvik or whatnot, I can write other few non-standard apps I need.
30th July 2014, 03:50 PM   |  #74  
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It's strange that the team of sailfish OS does't work by itself on a open and free virtual machine for its OS. Meego was totally freeand open source.
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30th July 2014, 09:58 PM   |  #75  
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It's strange that the team of sailfish OS does't work by itself on a open and free virtual machine for its OS. Meego was totally freeand open source.
Sorry for my English.

...and so is Mer, which is the core of Sailfish OS....
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30th July 2014, 10:11 PM   |  #76  
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...and so is Mer, which is the core of Sailfish OS....

I don't know why they talked about Qt, Wayland, and bla bla...and then they use close-source emulator!
31st July 2014, 03:59 PM   |  #77  
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I don't know why they talked about Qt, Wayland, and bla bla...and then they use close-source emulator!

Due to their existing expertise and track record, Myriad Group offered a supported shortcut to the goal of running Android Apps. I think it was a smart partnering on Jolla's behalf. They wanted/needed to get a device out to market. Don't forget the history... Nokia axed their MeeGo work and their jobs. They struck out on their own to do this...

"I don't know why they didn't flounder in poverty, risk themselves and their families' starvation, lose their homes to foreclosure and bankruptcy while they wrote yet more code from scratch and went through endless test cycles. They should have stayed 1000% open source and drug things out longer from bringing a product to market until it was too late and the newly founded company went belly up with nothing to show for it."

I guess your glass is half empty.

Look at the larger picture and not just your desire to have some Apps instantly fall into your lap for free. All the crying over lack of Apps is what keeps iOS and Android dominant. Consumers are blocking real choice, not tech developers. If no one will support a fledgling Mobile OS it will not be around long. That support will have to entail some growing pains.

My glass is half full.

I see a beautiful, intuitive and fun Mobile OS that has been gifted to me via the ability to flash it onto a Nexus 4. I'm very grateful for what was given to me.

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.
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31st July 2014, 04:03 PM   |  #78  
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Look at the larger picture and not just your desire to have some Apps instantly fall into your lap for free. All the crying over lack of Apps is what keeps iOS and Android dominant. Consumers are blocking real choice, not tech developers. If no one will support a fledgling Mobile OS it will not be around long. That support will have to entail some growing pains.


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