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Halfway to the SIP functionallity

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9th March 2014, 04:05 PM   |  #21  
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I would agree that adb is the better way, as copying these files in the phone ui had a near fatal impact for me.

On an off topic note, the overall SIP features and functionality of android's native phone is not anything to write home about (8khz), but it is convenient. It lacks support for something as simple g.722 and would make the world of difference for those of us that have other sip phones where16 kHz audio is the norm.
9th March 2014, 05:28 PM   |  #22  
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OK, I can confirm now that SIP voice quality is bad and does sound very strange...

Thanks for confirming it's not just my phone.

As jjwatmyself points out, even at its best the native SIP client isn't that good. When I had it working on another phone on an earlier version of Android, it would often lose the SIP registration, and there was no way to tell there was a problem.

I think I'm going to put my energy into getting CSIPSimple working better. I'm having mic issues with it too, but it's not distorting the audio. I'm just having problems with dropouts and echo. There are enough settings to adjust in CSS, it should be possible to clear these up. I'll open a thread in the QA forum for that though.

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9th March 2014, 08:02 PM   |  #23  
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Thanks for confirming it's not just my phone.

As jjwatmyself points out, even at its best the native SIP client isn't that good. When I had it working on another phone on an earlier version of Android, it would often lose the SIP registration, and there was no way to tell there was a problem.

I think I'm going to put my energy into getting CSIPSimple working better. I'm having mic issues with it too, but it's not distorting the audio. I'm just having problems with dropouts and echo. There are enough settings to adjust in CSS, it should be possible to clear these up. I'll open a thread in the QA forum for that though.

-Alan

I must confirm that native SIP client doesn't serve the real purpose. I tested it and I shall say that there is an obvious progress from 4.4 where you can obtain the connection but there wasn't any voice transmission. Now you have voice on both sides but as on the side of SIP client the voice is normal, on the other side is heavily disorted: it is choppy and harmonic frequences are added. In fact it is hard to understand and therefore native SIP is unacceptable for everyday use.

As there are other reports for different phones having the same issue with KItKat I believe that this is an Android's failure not Moto's. It seems that error occurs as mutual codec and echo cancellation absence failure. Hopefully it wil be solved in the next release as certain progress has been already made.

But I must say that CSIPSIMPLE works amazingly well for me. I set alaw as my primary codec and ulaw as next and disable all other codecs (first I checked with my voip provider wich codecs are supported). There is clear voice on both sides and first time ever since I've used voip, the jitter lag is acceptable what means that it doesn't cause the disturbing gap between listening the other side and speaking. I can recomend this program (I tried the others too but this one is the only without significant flaws) and hope for native SIP with 4.5.
9th March 2014, 08:47 PM   |  #24  
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But I must say that CSIPSIMPLE works amazingly well for me. I set alaw as my primary codec and ulaw as next and disable all other codecs (first I checked with my voip provider wich codecs are supported). There is clear voice on both sides and first time ever since I've used voip, the jitter lag is acceptable what means that it doesn't cause the disturbing gap between listening the other side and speaking. I can recomend this program (I tried the others too but this one is the only without significant flaws) and hope for native SIP with 4.5.

On another off topic note, do you use echo cancellation in CSIPSimple? If so have you changed any of its settings?
9th March 2014, 11:14 PM   |  #25  
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On another off topic note, do you use echo cancellation in CSIPSimple? If so have you changed any of its settings?

Yes, I use echo cancellation without any modifications. I chose advance settings and unified codecs both for wifi and mobile data, otherwise I selected compact data transmission and set filter for voip (to replace initial 0 with the country code). Then defined my mobile number as identification and that's pretty all.
30th March 2014, 09:42 PM   |  #26  
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SIP fix
It has turned out that I was correct suspecting that broken SIP in 4.4.2 is rather Android than Motorola's problem. The changelog for Android 4.4.3 is:

Frequent data connection dropout fix
mm-qcamera-daemon crash and optimization fixes
Camera focus in regular and HDR modes fixes
Power Manager display wakelock fix
Multiple Bluetooth fixes
Fix for a random reboot
App shortcuts sometimes got removed from launcher after update
USB debugging security fix
App shortcuts security fix
Wi-Fi auto-connect fix
Other camera fixes
MMS, Email/Exchange, Calendar, People/Dialer/Contacts, DSP, IPv6, VPN fixes
Stuck in activation screen fix
Missed call LED fix
Subtitle fixes
Data usage graph fix
Internet telephony fix
FCC compliance fix
Miscellaneous fixes

So internet telephony will be fixed with the next upgrade. It doesn't surprise me as Google intends to integrate voice into Hangouts and therefore move toward internet calling as well. In fact with LTE and LTE advanced techology the process of transmission voice between base stations is becoming more and more obsolete. Near future is in voip. We are witnessing the same development as years before happened with fixed telephony. Broadband networks shift mobile operations and provider's profits from voice transmission to data transmission.

Hopefully Motorola will upgrade soon.
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