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Unless it us being released according to imei batches
 
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The problem should be obvious. If the ONE country-branded ROM gets an update first, lets say to 4.4.4 (lets just say the UK variant - it has an OTA to 4.4.4), and the Country-branded ROM that YOU are on (of the same Model number...lets say the FR variant) doesn't have it yet, consider this:

It normally takes WEEKS or even MONTHS for the "FULL SBF" to be leaked...

1. You're using the FR variant, with the FR firmware at 4.4.2
2. You flash FULL SBF for another country-branded variant....lets say "UK" firmware which is on 4.4.2 because it has an OTA to 4.4.4 available and you JUST CAN'T WAIT to try out 4.4.4 ("Ouuuuu, shiny NEW Android version.....me likes and wants to try!!!!")
3. You take the available OTA to bring you up to 4.4.4
4. You decide you want to go back your original FR country-branded firmware for ANY reason, EVEN if they have the OTA to 4.4.4 at this point now, too...
5. There is NO FULL SBF available! It's not been leaked yet! Only the 4.4.2 full SBF is available....
6. You attempt to flash your original country-based firmware (the 4.4.2 one -- because you can't FLASH AN OTA to change back -- ONLY AN SBF CAN CHANGE YOU BACK). It won't succeed! So you decide to do it manually, skipping motoboot.img, and gpt.bin (because you CAN NOT DOWNGRADE THEM).
7. If you managed to NOT brick by doing this, you are at EXTREME RISK of bricking when you take your PROPER OTA to 4.4.4

This won't be a problem as long as the FULL SBF has been leaked already....but there is always risk, regardless. You could end up having to wait weeks or months before the FULL SBF becomes available...

Do you understand? An OTA is not a full flash, it doesn't work that way. So there's NO GOING BACK until the ENTIRE FULL SBF is leaked. Not without GREAT RISK. @KJ is 100% spot-on...

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I'm not silly.... :/

Is normal that the ota zip isn't a full ROM stock.......

The problem is only you....

XT1052 is the same in France, Germany, UK or others variants Retail Sbf for XT1052......

The ota 4.4.4 verizon is for verizon sbf 4.4.2

The ota 4.4.4 Retail france is for Retail France 4.4.2
 
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I have the same f/w and no update available. My phone is carrier free and on stock f/w, not rooted, locked BL.

tkelly0727 what carrier are you with?
I'm with o2 but flashed the retail GB firmware
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I'm not silly.... :/

Is normal that the ota zip isn't a full ROM stock.......

The problem is only you....

XT1052 is the same in France, Germany, UK or others variants Retail Sbf for XT1052......

The ota 4.4.4 verizon is for verizon sbf 4.4.2

The ota 4.4.4 Retail france is for Retail France 4.4.2
NONE of which (except for verizon) have a FULL SBF for 4.4.4, NONE OF THE XT1052 variants. Meaning once on 4.4.4, there is NO SWITCHING.......UNTIL the FULL SBF is released.

All I can do now is "LOL".....since you obviously don't understand.

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Well I have carrier free and with tesco (O2) network and the update is not available. So they must releasing according imei no. as they would be assigned to O2 by motorola. No matter what f/w you install.
 
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Default 4.4.4 arrives on Verizon moto x

Sorry if this was already posted or something but I just got it like 20min ago. I don't see any new bloatware but it was a hefty 180mb and says only about the camera was updated and the newer android L'ish dialpad. Honestly this new dial pad is great but I like the older one more possibly. Cant test out the camera since its 1am.

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NONE of which (except for verizon) have a FULL SBF for 4.4.4, NONE OF THE XT1052 variants. Meaning once on 4.4.4, there is NO SWITCHING.......UNTIL the FULL SBF is released.

All I can do now is "LOL".....since you obviously don't understand.

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I'm not silly.... :/

Is normal that the ota zip isn't a full ROM stock.......

The problem is only you....

XT1052 is the same in France, Germany, UK or others variants Retail Sbf for XT1052......

The ota 4.4.4 verizon is for verizon sbf 4.4.2

The ota 4.4.4 Retail france is for Retail France 4.4.2
Right, if an update for a UK XT1052 is the same as for a FR XT1052, i.e. same system version, kernel, build number, etc. Then sure, its ok to flash. To be honest, this person might have had better luck if they had a Brazil 4.4.4 SBF to flash back to after flashing the Verizon 4.4.4, which we don't yet.

And yes, the OTA zip does validation checks before installing, and should fail if the build.prop and strings contained it in, do not match. (safe guard so that you can't easily install the OTA.zip from Verizon XT1060 to say an ATT XT1058.)

But the real problem is for those who do NOT wait, take any update or full SBF/FXZ that is available (even if its not for their phone model and carrier), and flash it to their phone (in the case of the OTA, some editing can be done to it so it can be applied if you have an unlocked bootloader), then decide for whatever reason (something doesn't work, they don't like it, they just want back on their stock carrier rom) to try to flash back to a leaked SBF that may not be as new as the update they just flashed.

In the linked thread, someone with a BRAZIL Non-Verizon phone, flashed the Verizon 4.4.4 update (likely using the FXZ). Had problems with radio (probably since the Verizon radio/modem files don't support the same bands), so tried to flash back to their original BRAZIL carrier's rom via SBF which was 4.4.2 (since there is no BR 4.4.4 SBF leaked yet), then an ATT US rom which is was 4.4.3??(I didn't know there was a 4.4.3 for ATT??) which messed up their phone to a point where it might not be able to be recovered.

That is a problem we've seen to often. People just flashing, without knowing, even though warnings keep getting posted.


The main issue to understand there is no downgrading (4.4.4 to 4.4.3 is a no go. 4.4.3 to 4.4.2 is a no go. 4.4.4 to 4.4.2 is a no go, 4.4.2 to 4.4.0 is a no go, etc.) without a major risk of bricking your phone.

That person not only downgraded, they mixed ROMs from incompatible phone models.

NOTE: The only time it was safe to downgrade the X was 4.4.0 to 4.2.2 w/camera update, because the GPT.BIN and MOTOBOOT.IMG was the same between those two roms only. When these files have changed between versions, they have prevented SAFE and successful downgrading.
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