Factory image for N4 removed
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People also seem to forget that the LTE chip costs money, it doesn't need to be there as it isn't an LTE device.
So if they remove it and what other components that are in there that are left over from The Optimus G, they save money.....
Pretty simple really.
So if they remove it and what other components that are in there that are left over from The Optimus G, they save money.....
Pretty simple really.
Umm, the chip is clearly there but is just turned off. Re-releasing the binaries so that it's "even more turned off" doesn't really save them anything apart from legal hassles.
Redesigning the board without the chip saves money because they don't have to put it on every one they produce. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if it was a bodged job to rush the device out so they used the Optimus G board to save money because they weren't selling and LG had loads of them left. However now the Nexus 4 has sold so many they have to produce more from scratch and so they've redesigned the board without the chip to save money.
Happened all the time where I used to work anyways.
LTE is part of the SoC. You can't simply "remove" it's physical presence without going to a different SoC.
No. It would be monumentally expensive to redesign a manufacturing process for one device that isn't meant to sell as high volume, margin and profit as other flagship devices (GS3, Note II, Optimus G etc) - why d'you think every Nexus to date has been a closely related cousin of other devices by the manufacturing company contracted?
Keeping it as close to Optimus G as possible is the most sensible business decision. Plus with economy of scale, they're getting parts shared between the two for cheap. They're also most likely using chip sets from binning that didn't pass the LTE QA, further saving money.
Besides, many SoCs already include LTE on the die, doesn't make sense to come up with a unique design just for one line of phones, too expensive. The expensive part of including LTE is the licensing and regulatory fees as there is no universal LTE standard or FRAND LTE patents.
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Using LTE on this phone would be a bad idea, doesn't have the right amplifiers, battery will drain so fast using LTE it's not even funny...even though it is..lol
I guess if you want to torrent something real quick (yeah you pirates!) then I guess it's useful, but HSPA+ is FAST! AVG 18DOWN and 2UP.
Maybe there is something else wrong with Android 4.2.1 for the N4, or it could be the LTE chip, guess we will have to wait and see.
I wouldn't be surprised if new version removes ability to use LTE, hasn't been certified for it in any country.
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Yeap, you dont even know the SAR rating, etc. There is a reason why these things go through the FCC.
Someone asked JBQ if he had any knowledge as to why the images are gone. His response:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/android-building/s-qNo2fxeHY
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/android-building/s-qNo2fxeHY
I would be surprised if they managed to lock it out permanently. As long as you can get the old firmware back into the right memory block the SoC reads from, it will still support LTE. If they remove it at the OS level, custom roms/patches should fix it.
All the SoC does is read it from flash, load it, and check for a valid signature. They can't really revoke the signature easily I believe, as IIRC its signed by a Qualcomm certificate.
All the SoC does is read it from flash, load it, and check for a valid signature. They can't really revoke the signature easily I believe, as IIRC its signed by a Qualcomm certificate.
Lock it or not.. We have great devs here, that I'm pretty sure will find that switch to flip.
Bring it on Google! Lol
They may take away the firmware but the phone still has the hardware.
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I believe JBQ got a trademark on that statement...
Sadly, we have to wait and be curious.
I believe JBQ got a trademark on that statement...
Sadly, we have to wait and be curious.
Ha yeah I know...
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I believe it has everything required for band 4 (anandtech said this --- i may be wrong)
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3Yesterday, I played around with my N4 and installed some Custom ROMs. I decided to go back to
stock ROM and only found a 404-Error for the factory images on the official Google site.
Today, I wanted to check, whether the link is fixed. To my surprise, Google completely removed the
the factory image for N4. Not a single word about it. Look here: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Anyone got a clue, why?
Update:
As usual, JBQ from Google couldn't comment on the issue.
Mirrored Stock Firmware:
http://www.randomphantasmagoria.com/firmware/nexus-4/occam/
4.2.1 md5: 9f39365c4eb0aba843fefabd5423802d
2Racecar spelled backwards is racecar.
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And
“A man, a plan, a canal—Panama!”
too.2What do we have here? Yep, Nexus 4 factory image is back on Google Developers site.
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occam2
LTE is part of the SoC. You can't simply "remove" it's physical presence without going to a different SoC.
