Default [Q] Driver Problems

So I am trying to S-off my phone by using the new firewater method, I've tried rumrunner and moonshine and they failed. I believe it's because Windows 7 64 bit will not recognize my phone in the device manager. I've tried using the universal drivers and htc sync drivers, nothing works. Anyone got any ideas?

...When my phone is off and connected to my computer ADB does see the device, but when the phone is on ADB no longer recognizes the device.

Any ideas?