[APP] GO Sms Pro V4.62 is released

chrcol · Feb 8, 2012

I have been using this app for 3 reasons mainly.

1 - need it for BLN sms alerts.
2 - its faster than stock sms app, or it was when I installed it, now seems slower to navigate messages and contacts but is still faster to compose a message (stock app has huge pause on compose).
3 - the theming, the stock sms app theme is quite bad.

I havent had a single bit of spam no adverts or anything.

zelendel · Feb 8, 2012

chrcol said:
I have been using this app for 3 reasons mainly.

1 - need it for BLN sms alerts.
2 - its faster than stock sms app, or it was when I installed it, now seems slower to navigate messages and contacts but is still faster to compose a message (stock app has huge pause on compose).
3 - the theming, the stock sms app theme is quite bad.

I havent had a single bit of spam no adverts or anything.

While the spam is a pita for sure. My main issue is how they seem to know that someone used the app on an old phone after they changed phones and never installed it on the new one. This would lead to the result of them storing users phone numbers on their private servers which is illegal in most of the world.

mbutandola · Feb 8, 2012

zelendel said:
While the spam is a pita for sure. My main issue is how they seem to know that someone used the app on an old phone after they changed phones and never installed it on the new one. This would lead to the result of them storing users phone numbers on their private servers which is illegal in most of the world.

You should contact Android Police and report to google. They may be forced to react.
On the other hand I don't see how I could do with another sms app. This one is just the best out there.
Just a question : how do I disable the app picture viewer? Couldn't find the option in settings.

Cheers

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zelendel · Feb 8, 2012

mbutandola said:
You should contact Android Police and report to google. They may be forced to react.
On the other hand I don't see how I could do with another sms app. This one is just the best out there.
Just a question : how do I disable the app picture viewer? Couldn't find the option in settings.

Cheers

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I have sent one final PM asking for a clear answer. If they do not reply I will have no choice but to conclude that they are collecting private user data and the apps will be removed and threads closed.

As for your question I am not sure. I stopped using it once the security issues came to light. Not sure if it is an option.

mbutandola · Feb 8, 2012

zelendel said:
I have sent one final PM asking for a clear answer. If they do not reply I will have no choice but to conclude that they are collecting private user data and the apps will be removed and threads closed.

As for your question I am not sure. I stopped using it once the security issues came to light. Not sure if it is an option.

If they receive a lot of pm a day they might not read it. Did you try twitter? Or contact somebody who speaks Chinese (lidroid for instance.
As for my question, the penultimate update added the possibility to disable the picture viewer.

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dmarden · Feb 8, 2012

zelendel said:
While the spam is a pita for sure. My main issue is how they seem to know that someone used the app on an old phone after they changed phones and never installed it on the new one. This would lead to the result of them storing users phone numbers on their private servers which is illegal in most of the world.

For what it is worth, I am not entirely certain that they're collecting and storing all sorts of info. They may be, I have no idea.

I have a few users with feature phones and a few with iPhones and most of them show up as Go SMS users too, lol.

*shrug* Wish they'd come clean on it, just adding what I've noticed.

c00ller · Feb 8, 2012

Hey dmarden, a while ago on this thread you mentioned you were testing a bunch of different SMS alternatives. I'm just curious about which app you decided on and why.

zelendel · Feb 8, 2012

dmarden said:
For what it is worth, I am not entirely certain that they're collecting and storing all sorts of info. They may be, I have no idea.

I have a few users with feature phones and a few with iPhones and most of them show up as Go SMS users too, lol.

*shrug* Wish they'd come clean on it, just adding what I've noticed.

Well to be honest. I like Go sms Alot and really wanted to come up with a way on how this was done. So I went about looking at different ways this could be done. The only way that I came across was to link the accounts by device ID or by phone number. The first was tossed when we found that they were still linked after swapping phones and not installing it on the new phone. That left phone number storing.

I have emailed, PM, and posted along with another mod asking for them to come clean. Best answer we got was "Its complicated".

Now I am not trying to come across like a hate monger but I have alot of numbers in my phone that are not public numbers and can get me into alot of legal trouble if they get out into the open. So being able to trust a developer is a big deal.

Now I know is some countries this type of data collection is completely ok and legal but its not everywhere. I will wait for a few days for a reply.

dmarden · Feb 8, 2012

c00ller said:
Hey dmarden, a while ago on this thread you mentioned you were testing a bunch of different SMS alternatives. I'm just curious about which app you decided on and why.

Sadly, they're all horrible in some fashion. Below is my impression of the ones I played with. By all means, NOT a full pro/con list... just the major thing causing me concern.

Go SMS: Community recluse / Possible info-thief
Handcent: Huge partial wakelock issue / less theme-capable
ChompSMS: Very "cludgy", slow.
Pansi SMS: A bit light feature wise, mediocre performance.

They all have an "issue" (not really their fault) where they don't rotate vertical pictures taken with Samsung cameras for MMS, this is because Samsung chooses to use the orientation property instead of saving the picture in a vertical resolution. Only the Samsung stock "Touchwiz" SMS app handles this properly.

Aaaaanyway, to answer your question... I'm not leaving any 3rd party SMS app installed on my phone right now. Just using the stock one. It works (despite being feature-deprived), is safe, and it flips my pictures.

I still install pretty much every SMS app each time they update to see if anything has improved.

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zelendel said:
Well to be honest. I like Go sms Alot and really wanted to come up with a way on how this was done. So I went about looking at different ways this could be done. The only way that I came across was to link the accounts by device ID or by phone number. The first was tossed when we found that they were still linked after swapping phones and not installing it on the new phone. That left phone number storing.

I have emailed, PM, and posted along with another mod asking for them to come clean. Best answer we got was "Its complicated".

Now I am not trying to come across like a hate monger but I have alot of numbers in my phone that are not public numbers and can get me into alot of legal trouble if they get out into the open. So being able to trust a developer is a big deal.

Now I know is some countries this type of data collection is completely ok and legal but its not everywhere. I will wait for a few days for a reply.

No argument from me... it's a major concern and I really don't understand why they won't communicate on the topic. This is different than not responding to a feature request or some obscure (not to be read as unimportant) bug report.

As unfortunate as it is, the only conclusion that I can draw is that they have something to hide. It's a problem.

chrcol · Feb 9, 2012

To add to my previous post I agree with the concerns and I think the first warning light is the fact the app is free when its good enough that people would pay for it.

As a user tho I am stuck in a hard place. As for a start BLN fucntionality for SMS to me is essential, big enough that if it doesnt work I ditch my smartphone and go back to my old nokia. There is alternative sms apps but they dont exactly have a glowing reference so I expect I wouldnt be pleased although I am probably willing to test handcent, however if that has a wakelock issue on my phone then it wont stay.

Now to the privacy concerns, I am annoyed but not that bothered if my number is stored somewhere, to me the much bigger concern is if they then spam people from my number (is that possible?) or harvest my contact list and spam them because they have got their details of my phone. So far I havent seen reports of these 2 things but I guess its a risk. Of course uninstalling the app with these concerns is already too late they have likely already harvested what they need although it depends how they get the information. As to my next point about me getting no ads.

I have background data disabled 24/7 unless using the market and then it goes off again right after, the wifi is only on when needed, same with bluetooth, 3g, data mode and gps.

I thank the person on this thread that raised awareness of droidwall which I plan to install to lockdown apps that I know shouldnt need data access.

Another example been that I had uno free on my phone, 3 days ago I woke up my phone and had a notification telling me to buy the game, so it either had something running in the background or its waking up on a schedule to do this sort of thing, that to me freaked me out and I uninstalled the game. I am actually considering now going back to my nokia for sms/calls and just carrying this in my pocket as an extra should I need to use mobile internet for some reason.

zelendel · Feb 9, 2012

chrcol said:
To add to my previous post I agree with the concerns and I think the first warning light is the fact the app is free when its good enough that people would pay for it.

As a user tho I am stuck in a hard place. As for a start BLN fucntionality for SMS to me is essential, big enough that if it doesnt work I ditch my smartphone and go back to my old nokia. There is alternative sms apps but they dont exactly have a glowing reference so I expect I wouldnt be pleased although I am probably willing to test handcent, however if that has a wakelock issue on my phone then it wont stay.

Now to the privacy concerns, I am annoyed but not that bothered if my number is stored somewhere, to me the much bigger concern is if they then spam people from my number (is that possible?) or harvest my contact list and spam them because they have got their details of my phone. So far I havent seen reports of these 2 things but I guess its a risk. Of course uninstalling the app with these concerns is already too late they have likely already harvested what they need although it depends how they get the information. As to my next point about me getting no ads.

I have background data disabled 24/7 unless using the market and then it goes off again right after, the wifi is only on when needed, same with bluetooth, 3g, data mode and gps.

I thank the person on this thread that raised awareness of droidwall which I plan to install to lockdown apps that I know shouldnt need data access.

Another example been that I had uno free on my phone, 3 days ago I woke up my phone and had a notification telling me to buy the game, so it either had something running in the background or its waking up on a schedule to do this sort of thing, that to me freaked me out and I uninstalled the game. I am actually considering now going back to my nokia for sms/calls and just carrying this in my pocket as an extra should I need to use mobile internet for some reason.

Droid wall would be an option but MMS uses data and IF you block the data you cant DL mms pics.

mbutandola · Feb 9, 2012

@zelendel Could you get some good devs to break the apk down and see what they actually collect and where they send it to?
I'm pretty sure it could be done.
Isn't that the way carrier IQ got caught?

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zelendel · Feb 9, 2012

mbutandola said:
@zelendel Could you get some good devs to break the apk down and see what they actually collect and where they send it to?
I'm pretty sure it could be done.
Isn't that the way carrier IQ got caught?

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In the end that is what I am gonna have to do but I am trying to give them a chance to Man-up and not have to do this. The easy part is where it is being sent to. They would have to store the info on their private servers.

KennyLegend · Feb 9, 2012

zelendel said:
In the end that is what I am gonna have to do but I am trying to give them a chance to Man-up and not have to do this. The easy part is where it is being sent to. They would have to store the info on their private servers.

This is a real pity as its the best SMS app out there. I went back to stock SMS a few weeks ago and im not keen on it. I like to use smilies and unobtrusive delivery reports etc and the stock app is cack for this. OK , it works fine and it'll do fine for now but u guys know what i mean

I like the idea of breaking down the app. Some nice info to be found i would reckon.

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happyllj · Feb 9, 2012

zelendel said:
Well to be honest. I like Go sms Alot and really wanted to come up with a way on how this was done. So I went about looking at different ways this could be done. The only way that I came across was to link the accounts by device ID or by phone number. The first was tossed when we found that they were still linked after swapping phones and not installing it on the new phone. That left phone number storing.

I have emailed, PM, and posted along with another mod asking for them to come clean. Best answer we got was "Its complicated".

Now I am not trying to come across like a hate monger but I have alot of numbers in my phone that are not public numbers and can get me into alot of legal trouble if they get out into the open. So being able to trust a developer is a big deal.

Now I know is some countries this type of data collection is completely ok and legal but its not everywhere. I will wait for a few days for a reply.

Please be noted that GO SMS never transfer or store personal data, as an experienced DEV team, we follow Google policy, and know which cant do.
Thanks

mbutandola · Feb 9, 2012

happyllj said:
Please be noted that GO SMS never transfer or store personal data, as an experienced DEV team, we follow Google policy, and know which cant do.
Thanks

How did you manage to get to know about people even after they had changed phones?
This is a recipe for controversy. There are people on here who have long arms and that will only lead to bad publicity. Please come clean on this.
Cheers.

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KennyLegend · Feb 9, 2012

If the above is true...do we really have a cause for concern?

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angel123 · Feb 9, 2012

Connection error on GoChat

Anybody have connection errors on GoChat since the last update V4.32?

ecwpa · Feb 9, 2012

mbutandola said:
How did you manage to get to know about people even after they had changed phones?
This is a recipe for controversy. There are people on here who have long arms and that will only lead to bad publicity. Please come clean on this.
Cheers.

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I think this app is going to be dissected anyway. They still can give a good answer to this concern but sounds hard to do without storing phone contacts elsewhere.

This is a big concer for me. I'm trying to make themes for this app and I've also recommended the app to a lot of friends already :/

AfzalivE · Feb 9, 2012

zelendel said:
I have sent one final PM asking for a clear answer. If they do not reply I will have no choice but to conclude that they are collecting private user data and the apps will be removed and threads closed.

As for your question I am not sure. I stopped using it once the security issues came to light. Not sure if it is an option.

decompile and look at the source, that's the only way to make sure.

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