While I love the open-ness of Android and the free-ness of a lot of it, I really enjoy the fluidity and polish of iOS and the refinement of Apple hardware .Nothing Android has done (in my opinion) can match the responsiveness of iOS. Also, the apps for iOS are head and shoulders above Android. Again, just my opinions (I have owned mainly android devices since the OG Droid, an iPhone 4s, and currently have a GSIII)
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100% agree. Another thing I would like to add is that Google should really come up with a more efficient way to push updates to all of its devices. One thing that really hurts the end-users is that because Android is an "open" software, carriers like to mess with the Android software ultimately killing the overall experience by loading all their crapware in it. Google can't really say "no you cant do that" but they dont want to say "yes, you can..." either.
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Good thread - I have been wanting to get this off of my chest.
I purchased a Nexus One when they were still on pre-order. I custom-ROM'd it, themed it, and all around loved it. Then one night during my bachelor party, I dropped it and cracked the screen.
When I went in for a new phone I got sucked into the iHype and purchased an iPhone 4. I pretended to like it.
I "jailbroke" it and installed the horrible Cydia software. But that was the extent of my customization - it just wasn't as fun as the Android experience.
Just recently, I was due for my discounted upgrade. The thought of getting the iPhone 5 did not cross my mind for even a second.
I am so happy to be back on Android!
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Good thread - I have been wanting to get this off of my chest.
I purchased a Nexus One when they were still on pre-order. I custom-ROM'd it, themed it, and all around loved it. Then one night during my bachelor party, I dropped it and cracked the screen.
When I went in for a new phone I got sucked into the iHype and purchased an iPhone 4. I pretended to like it.
I "jailbroke" it and installed the horrible Cydia software. But that was the extent of my customization - it just wasn't as fun as the Android experience.
Just recently, I was due for my discounted upgrade. The thought of getting the iPhone 5 did not cross my mind for even a second.
I am so happy to be back on Android!
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Thanks
Thanks for your write-up. I was Android from the beginning but decided to buy my wife the Iphone 4s (She likes it but I want to smash it). I have learned that I love freedom to customize as I choose. I always make my PC's the way I like want it, why would I let someone else choose what apps I am allowed to run?
Thanks for your write-up. I was Android from the beginning but decided to buy my wife the Iphone 4s (She likes it but I want to smash it). I have learned that I love freedom to customize as I choose. I always make my PC's the way I like want it, why would I let someone else choose what apps I am allowed to run?
iPhone in brazil: native Android device.
Apple lost handset name of "iPhone' to a company that filed for it 6 years prior. This company produces Android devices, not apple ones.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21449890
Apple lost handset name of "iPhone' to a company that filed for it 6 years prior. This company produces Android devices, not apple ones.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21449890
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It's nice but nothing innovative. One of HTCs biggest issues is the fact that they barely change sense. In my opinion, Sense is aesthetically pleasing but that's it. There's the redundancy of clocks (damn lock screen) and a lack of the most simple features like being able to share a picture through text. There's really not much of a change in Sense minus the launcher.
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It's nice but nothing innovative. One of HTCs biggest issues is the fact that they barely change sense. In my opinion, Sense is aesthetically pleasing but that's it. There's the redundancy of clocks (damn lock screen) and a lack of the most simple features like being able to share a picture through text. There's really not much of a change in Sense minus the launcher.
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Really!! Wow.. Hard to believe. Why o why would they exclude such a feature?
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Really!! Wow.. Hard to believe. Why o why would they exclude such a feature?
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I mean it in the way of hitting share on a picture. Of course you can send MMS but say you're browsing the web and find a picture, you can't just share it lol
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I mean it in the way of hitting share on a picture. Of course you can send MMS but say you're browsing the web and find a picture, you can't just share it lol
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Here are some "insider" leaks on the S4.. kind of disappointed..
4.9-inch Full-HD SoLux Display
Snapdragon 600 1.9 Ghz
2 GB RAM
16, 32 or 64 GB
13MP camera
140,1 x 71,8 x 7.7mm
138 gram
Home button with touch buttons
Plastic back with aluminum sides
Removable battery
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-specs-lcd-snapdragon-160088/
4.9-inch Full-HD SoLux Display
Snapdragon 600 1.9 Ghz
2 GB RAM
16, 32 or 64 GB
13MP camera
140,1 x 71,8 x 7.7mm
138 gram
Home button with touch buttons
Plastic back with aluminum sides
Removable battery
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-specs-lcd-snapdragon-160088/
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S4 is still likely going to be a great phone, even if these are the specs it drops with. Not worth upgrading from the S3 though, IMO - until the S4 retail price drops significantly.
S4 is still likely going to be a great phone, even if these are the specs it drops with. Not worth upgrading from the S3 though, IMO - until the S4 retail price drops significantly.
All the Snapdragon 600 happens to be is an enhanced S4 found in last generation tech. I want true high end current generation processors. Not these limbo ones. Snapdragon 800 or Exynos 5 quad/octa us where it's truly at.
snapdragon 800 won't be available in time for the S4 release... expect it in a LG or GOOGLE phone.
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Would be nice to know whether Samsung will include a better radio in S4 than the POS we have in the S3. That, and how easy it would be to root and unlock
Would be nice to know whether Samsung will include a better radio in S4 than the POS we have in the S3. That, and how easy it would be to root and unlock
I wonder if it would be simply wisest to potentially wait for a 'galaxy s5' for those that just recently got the s3 on contract (which I got back in July).
I'm stoked for the faster RAM chips Samsung has been mass producing:
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/18/samsung-memory-storage/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/15/samsung-10nm-64gb-emmc-mobile-flash-memory/
I/O is still a huge issue in mobile phones, iPhone 5 upped its game with better memory but this looks to be a step above.
Also wish we'd see some A15 architecture right about now but we may be a generation off as I hear the battery draw is too great :\
http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/18/samsung-memory-storage/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/11/15/samsung-10nm-64gb-emmc-mobile-flash-memory/
I/O is still a huge issue in mobile phones, iPhone 5 upped its game with better memory but this looks to be a step above.
Also wish we'd see some A15 architecture right about now but we may be a generation off as I hear the battery draw is too great :\
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Due to me and lots of others getting it then to hold on to our unlimited data, waiting for the next upgrade is not in the cards as using it means losing unlimited data. Friggen' Verizon is the only carrier that doesn't allow grandfathered users to use upgrades without forcing them change the plan (in this case, to tiered data). This means I will have to pay retail... Which is something I'm likely to do if S4 is up to snuff.
Due to me and lots of others getting it then to hold on to our unlimited data, waiting for the next upgrade is not in the cards as using it means losing unlimited data. Friggen' Verizon is the only carrier that doesn't allow grandfathered users to use upgrades without forcing them change the plan (in this case, to tiered data). This means I will have to pay retail... Which is something I'm likely to do if S4 is up to snuff.
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You can share a picture through text.
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You can share a picture through text.
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I'm having a hard time believing S4 won't use the octa (atleast internationally) with the way they are marketing it. US variants may get just the s600
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I'm having a hard time believing S4 won't use the octa (atleast internationally) with the way they are marketing it. US variants may get just the s600
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I was a longtime apple holdout and had droids from the beginning but mostly with crap htc phones. Got the 4S and loved the build quality and sound clarity on calls. Got bored quickly and jailbroke it, themed the crap out of it, and ultimately bought an S3. Hated the small screen on the 4S, maps sucked (google is in a completely different league, majors compared to little league on IOS). and I couldn't text to save my life without swype or swiftkey once I got hooked on them.
I am now rooted, taking different roms and kernals for test drives, and loving my phone again. Tried the Note2 for a couple of weeks and it was just too big. Was hoping the S4 was a tad bigger than the S3, but I can easily live with my S3 for now. It does everything I want it to do and is fun to play with. What more do you want with a phone lol.
I am now rooted, taking different roms and kernals for test drives, and loving my phone again. Tried the Note2 for a couple of weeks and it was just too big. Was hoping the S4 was a tad bigger than the S3, but I can easily live with my S3 for now. It does everything I want it to do and is fun to play with. What more do you want with a phone lol.
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5I'm thinking of getting an iPhone 5 or Galaxy Note 2. Whatcha guys think?
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That's probably the oddest cross-shop combination I've ever heard of. The iPhone5 and NoteII are both excellent but completely different phones for people with different goals in a phone.
I don't have a NoteII to compare to but my Wife has an iPhone5 and I feel like I have a good read on the differences between the 5 and the SIII.
Screen:
The screens on the iPhone5 and SIII both have their tradeoffs. I love the huge screen on the SIII it allows me to browse without constantly zooming and panning like one needs to do on the iPhone5. This is even more true because most iOS apps haven't been updated and show black bars on top and bottom so like 1/4 of the screen is black in popular apps like whatsapp and engadget.
One the other hand the iPhone is definitely more manageable with one hand and has more accurate color reproduction. If you hold a white page up side by side the GSIII looks yellow in comparison.
Overall I prefer the GSIII screen size, but it's really a matter of personal preference.
Productivity and Capability:
There's simply so much more you can do with Android than you can do with iOS, especially with a rooted and unlocked phone with custom roms. The notifications pulldown, Google Now, widgets, quick settings/toggle, popup browser, etc. all let you do more things faster with Android than you could do with iOS.
While iOS is solid it feels dated with little recent innovation in the actual UI. Almost all of the power of iOS comes from it's app store and third-party support for things like passbook. In the end Apple's homescreen is like a prettier rendition of a Palm Treo launcher from 2003. Siri is cool but imho Google Now is better.
App Selection:
As hinted above, Apple's real strength is in the app store. Overall they have more and better quality apps. There are almost always comparable apps in the Google play store, but they don't always have the same level of polish as the iOS version.
Sometimes though the Google play store has much more powerful apps that would never be allowed in the App store. Things like emulators, apps requiring root, different keyboards, etc. Now that I've used it, I'm not sure how I lived without the Swype keyboard. When I have to type something on my wife's phone I feel like I'm going back in history. I love this. Just today I installed an app that gives you full control of what happens when your proximity sensor triggers.
The restrictions Apple puts on app developers generally result in smoother more reliable apps that don't often crash and can't hijack your battery. On the other hand Google allows much more powerful applications, but rogue applications can hijack your phone and incompatibilities between Android versions cause all sorts of problems. I had to uninstall the Engadget app on JB because it was using 30% of my battery even though it was only in the foreground for 5 minutes.
Performance:
The iPhone will generally give you a smoother, more predictable experience. I think the lack of widgets, app freedom, etc. has a huge impact on this.
While Jelly Bean is butter-smooth for the most part, there are occasional stutters here and there that you don't really see on iOS. A lot of times I will find myself swiping a number or something and the action will take place a second later. Apps themselves seem to perform better on iOS. For example TempleRun stutters and misses swipes after running for a while. This was never an issue on my old iPhone4 and the SIII should be between 2-4 times as powerful.
Battery Life:
In my experience the iPhone5 has more consistent and generally "better" battery life when compared to the SIII. I put better in quotes because in certain use cases I'm sure the SIII would achieve as good or better battery time. Whenever someone has a battery issue they're told to turn off location services, latitudes, gnow, weather widgets, monitor your wakelocks, etc. However with the iPhone5 you generally don't have to worry about that stuff, if you aren't actively using an app it won't use much of your battery. My wife and I have similar usage patterns and she always seem to have more battery left than me at the end of the day.
Overall the iPhone is a solid but boring device with reliable performance and battery life where the SIII can be a bit inconsistent but delivers a level of customization, productivity and power that iOS can't touch. I think power users will prefer the SIII/Note2 and the iPhone is more for people who expect a consistent experience from their phone.
These observations are probably valid for the Note2 as well. The difference in screen size is even more drastic, performance should improve with the NoteII, battery life is likely about the same, and the OS/app selection remain the same.2
The first few batches shouldn't have the 5.0 update. I'd purchase it soon though, as soon as you s-off the phone you can take the upgrade immediately afterwards and it won't relock your phone.2
From what I understand you can get it and obtain s off and root as long as it's not on anything higher than 4.4.4 as sunshine will not work on anything above that version
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M9, or M8 or G3 if you want something cheaper. The M8 and G3 are still a very good phones and are very customizable.
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