Development stopped: [APP] [17 January 2012] BattClock version 3.8.2 Final version

tobbbie · Jan 30, 2012

ZuinigeRijder said:
BattClock uses the following API to get the data from the battery driver: SYSTEM_POWER_STATUS_EX2

BatteryCurrent
Number of milliamps (mA) of instantaneous current drain. It can range from 0 to 32767 for charge and 0 to –32768 for discharge.

Thanks, for the details - so it is up the OEM what to deliver back with the API call. From my experience with the device I have, the result seems to be more like the "BatteryAverageCurrent" not the realtime value. Are you doing any post-processing on the data received from the API (like removing the "-" for negative drain)? Has that post-processing changed over time (I still use a very old version of BattClock)?

reidler · Jan 30, 2012

jcmm said:
Hello Reidler,

In Mobihand sell you program SBSH Weather without any problems. Although this is v2.3.0 version, the license code is valid for all subsequent "rc". I bought the program in this (totally reliable en) provider in its day, and I had no problems with the following versions:

http://www.mobihand.com/product.asp?id=301&n=SBSH-PocketWeather---Weather-Reports-In-Your-Pocket!

Best regards,

Thank you. Sbsh finally did respond and sent me a link on how I can get it. I do like elecont pretty much so I'm not sure I will want to get that also or not. Elecont does not use gps for current location. Sbsh says it does but I'll have to test and see if that makes it worth it.

Also Zuinige - I wanted to thank you for those utilities you directed me to. The ClearTemp does do what I need it to do. It also allows me to add in some more folders and files to delete. I have added some. For example Elecont builds a log of every weather update it does. Those files grow pretty big. So I added those ElecontLog* files to the list to keep deleting. So I'll just run cleartemp every night.

I also found the FDC-TaskMgr and PIM backup. I would like to figure out how to clean up my calendar. My pim.vol file is 19.3 megabytes! Somehow I will want to remove and rebuild all the calendar events. There's not built in mechanism in WM to delete old events. I just restored that pim.vol file from my old Palm Treo to the HTC TP2. Then I always restored it after every hard reset. It needs to be cleaned up. I think I may be able to export the data and then edit it and remove stuff myself. Then maybe I can kill all the calendar events and re-load the edited data. I'll need to check if that chain of events can happen. I think PIM backup allows the user to kill a whole section like calendar events. I have to see how difficult it would be to delete old events by hand.

So thanks to Battclock and these other utilities, I believe I have my phone just how I like it. I've become addicted to this site so I'll miss your updates, Zuinige and all the kind help offerred by the users here.

Eli

ZuinigeRijder · Jan 30, 2012

reidler said:
Also Zuinige - I wanted to thank you for those utilities you directed me to. The ClearTemp does do what I need it to do. It also allows me to add in some more folders and files to delete. I have added some. For example Elecont builds a log of every weather update it does. Those files grow pretty big. So I added those ElecontLog* files to the list to keep deleting. So I'll just run cleartemp every night.

I also found the FDC-TaskMgr and PIM backup. I would like to figure out how to clean up my calendar. My pim.vol file is 19.3 megabytes! Somehow I will want to remove and rebuild all the calendar events. There's not built in mechanism in WM to delete old events. I just restored that pim.vol file from my old Palm Treo to the HTC TP2. Then I always restored it after every hard reset. It needs to be cleaned up. I think I may be able to export the data and then edit it and remove stuff myself. Then maybe I can kill all the calendar events and re-load the edited data. I'll need to check if that chain of events can happen. I think PIM backup allows the user to kill a whole section like calendar events. I have to see how difficult it would be to delete old events by hand.

So thanks to Battclock and these other utilities, I believe I have my phone just how I like it. I've become addicted to this site so I'll miss your updates, Zuinige and all the kind help offerred by the users here.

Eli

Looks like Pocket dbExplorer 3.1 can edit pim.vol

Manages databases - allows copying, deleting, and renaming databases on your mobile device.

View/Edit databases - allows viewing and editing of any system or application database located in the Databases folder

But I do not have experience with it......

ZuinigeRijder · Jan 30, 2012

tobbbie said:
Thanks, for the details - so it is up the OEM what to deliver back with the API call. From my experience with the device I have, the result seems to be more like the "BatteryAverageCurrent" not the realtime value. Are you doing any post-processing on the data received from the API (like removing the "-" for negative drain)? Has that post-processing changed over time (I still use a very old version of BattClock)?

There is an option in BattClock:

CLOCKINFO_BATTERY_CURRENT_FORCE, as Battery Current but non-cached values are asked the Battery Driver. Dependent on the Battery Driver the info can be more up-to-date but can also drain more battery.

On my phone, although asked once per second, the battery driver still gives the same results for about 10 seconds. For your phone it might be longer, all is dependent on the batery driver.

Which version of BattClock you are using? I do not think it has been changed in this area......

jcmm · Jan 31, 2012

reidler said:
Thank you. Sbsh finally did respond and sent me a link on how I can get it. I do like elecont pretty much so I'm not sure I will want to get that also or not. Elecont does not use gps for current location. Sbsh says it does but I'll have to test and see if that makes it worth it.

Also Zuinige - I wanted to thank you for those utilities you directed me to. The ClearTemp does do what I need it to do. It also allows me to add in some more folders and files to delete. I have added some. For example Elecont builds a log of every weather update it does. Those files grow pretty big. So I added those ElecontLog* files to the list to keep deleting. So I'll just run cleartemp every night.

I also found the FDC-TaskMgr and PIM backup. I would like to figure out how to clean up my calendar. My pim.vol file is 19.3 megabytes! Somehow I will want to remove and rebuild all the calendar events. There's not built in mechanism in WM to delete old events. I just restored that pim.vol file from my old Palm Treo to the HTC TP2. Then I always restored it after every hard reset. It needs to be cleaned up. I think I may be able to export the data and then edit it and remove stuff myself. Then maybe I can kill all the calendar events and re-load the edited data. I'll need to check if that chain of events can happen. I think PIM backup allows the user to kill a whole section like calendar events. I have to see how difficult it would be to delete old events by hand.

So thanks to Battclock and these other utilities, I believe I have my phone just how I like it. I've become addicted to this site so I'll miss your updates, Zuinige and all the kind help offerred by the users here.

Eli

Hello Reidler,

Elecont Weather is a good program, direct and complete information with good graphic interface, and frequently updated data provider climate "Intellicast.com" (http://www.intellicast.com/), which is very good. The database has over 61,000 cities around the world. So you do not occupy much space program, you can remove the skins (themes) that do not use (I use only the "Classic"). You have to leave the skins/themes you're going to use, but you should also keep the files beginning with "hb" (are 4 files) along with the skins/themes that you want, others you can delete them and save enough memory space.

It is not good to have a database of the pim.vol, mine is 1,9mb and I have lots of data. PIMbackup is the best program that there is to do a backup/restore of the pim.vol, I use it for many years, and is perfect in everything.

I also use CleanTemp. I can recommend the best tool available for windows mobile: SKTools (http://www.s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html). It has more than 60 tools of adjustment and cleaning for Windows Mobile, but some of them you have to handle with care, knowing well what you're doing. SKTools also have possibility to clean up data from the database of pim.vol, edit and delete data that does not want to have to be obsolete or unnecessary. You can come in very handy SKTools (not SKTools Lite, but SKTools).

If you need more information tell me.

Best regards,

reidler · Jan 31, 2012

ZuinigeRijder said:
Looks like Pocket dbExplorer 3.1 can edit pim.vol

Manages databases - allows copying, deleting, and renaming databases on your mobile device.

View/Edit databases - allows viewing and editing of any system or application database located in the Databases folder

But I do not have experience with it......

I downloaded it - the trial version to check it out. But it won't let me in without registering it. I thought I downloaded a trial version.

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jcmm said:
Hello Reidler,

Elecont Weather is a good program, direct and complete information with good graphic interface, and frequently updated data provider climate "Intellicast.com" (http://www.intellicast.com/), which is very good. The database has over 61,000 cities around the world. So you do not occupy much space program, you can remove the skins (themes) that do not use (I use only the "Classic"). You have to leave the skins/themes you're going to use, but you should also keep the files beginning with "hb" (are 4 files) along with the skins/themes that you want, others you can delete them and save enough memory space.

It is not good to have a database of the pim.vol, mine is 1,9mb and I have lots of data. PIMbackup is the best program that there is to do a backup/restore of the pim.vol, I use it for many years, and is perfect in everything.

I also use CleanTemp. I can recommend the best tool available for windows mobile: SKTools (http://www.s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html). It has more than 60 tools of adjustment and cleaning for Windows Mobile, but some of them you have to handle with care, knowing well what you're doing. SKTools also have possibility to clean up data from the database of pim.vol, edit and delete data that does not want to have to be obsolete or unnecessary. You can come in very handy SKTools (not SKTools Lite, but SKTools).

If you need more information tell me.

Best regards,

I used FDC-PIM Backup. According to the documentation it allows to backup in non-binary mode so that we can edit the file and reload it. It said it would save it in csv mode. The file is named with extension .pib but can be renamed to .zip to unzip. The internal files are named with extensions .csa for appointments, .csc for contacts etc. The file should be renamed .csv to be loaded in to excel. But I found the file did not use a comma delimiter , it used a semicolon ; so it's not loading nicely in to exel.

Thanks.
Eli

tobbbie · Feb 1, 2012

ZuinigeRijder said:
There is an option in BattClock:

CLOCKINFO_BATTERY_CURRENT_FORCE, as Battery Current but non-cached values are asked the Battery Driver. Dependent on the Battery Driver the info can be more up-to-date but can also drain more battery.

On my phone, although asked once per second, the battery driver still gives the same results for about 10 seconds. For your phone it might be longer, all is dependent on the batery driver.

Which version of BattClock you are using? I do not think it has been changed in this area......

I use the 2.1 version as I only need the logging (and display) of basic battery data for my MortScript based battery logging (see signature, also on smartphone) - nothing else. Checking the documentation, I found "15 = CLOCKINFO_BATTERY_CURRENT_FORCE", as Battery Current but non-cached values are asked the Battery Driver. Dependent on the Battery Driver the info can be more up-to-date but can also drain more battery. "

I use that setting already, so nothing to expect here.

reidler · Feb 6, 2012

ZuinigeRijder said:
I exported the registry with http://www.dotfred.net/TaskMgr.htm to a reg file without and with silent mode. And then compared the result.

These were the changes:

Code:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Volume] "Volume"=dword:ffffffff "Ringer"=dword:ffffffff

+

Code:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Volume] "Ringer"=dword:00000000 "Volume"=dword:00000000

So the volume of the Windows Mobile and phone ring was set to 0.

Code:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0] "Sound"="\\My Documents\\Mijn beltonen\\3214-Crazy_Frog-Popcorn.mid" [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\ShellOverrides] "Mode"=dword:00000000

+

Code:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0] "Sound"="*none*" [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\ShellOverrides] "Mode"=dword:00000002

This post is talking about this registry key:

For PPC 2002/2003:
\HKCU\ControlPanel\Notifications\ShellOverrides\Mode
2 for Mute mode.
0 for Not-mute mode.
(Not sure if other bits are used here for other things).
I've found that changing this TO 0 (not-muted) FROM 2 (muted)
works to set the radio button on the volume controller to "on" from
"off" but not the other way around.
(Yes--This makes the radio buttons on the volume controller
out-of-sync with the icon on the nav bar.)

I checked with vibrate only setting.

Code:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0] "Sound"="*vibrate*" [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\ShellOverrides] "Mode"=dword:00000001

So it looks like:
- Mode = 0 Volume on
- Mode = 1 Vibrate only
- Mode = 2 Mute all

Hi again. Can you tell me please which program you used to COMPARE the two files? Remember I mentioned that I had some problems with my phone. Sometimes it loses sound. Sometimes it loses the accelerometer. They both just happened. I save copies of the registry with the problem and then after resetting the phone without the problem. I now need to compare the two files and look for the differences to see if I can find something. Thanks. Eli

ZuinigeRijder · Feb 6, 2012

reidler said:
Hi again. Can you tell me please which program you used to COMPARE the two files? Remember I mentioned that I had some problems with my phone. Sometimes it loses sound. Sometimes it loses the accelerometer. They both just happened. I save copies of the registry with the problem and then after resetting the phone without the problem. I now need to compare the two files and look for the differences to see if I can find something. Thanks. Eli

I used Beyond Compare. There is a trial version, but there are also older versions which are free to use.

reidler · Feb 20, 2012

Hi everyone. I noticed recently that my phone WM 6.5 started acting similarly to Windows on my PC when it gets a virus or worm. It slows down to a crawl. I tapped a button and had to wait minutes for a reaction. So I wonder if there is a virus on my phone? I never heard of viruses on phones. Is there such a phenomena? If there is are there any virus protectors designed for Windows Mobile? Once I reset my phone it was ok again. Thanks for your help. Eli

reidler · Mar 11, 2012

Hi. Recently I started experiencing a problem where WM 6.5 just closes running apps. I don't know why this happens. I noticed that I was not getting emails and saw that the email program was not running. I started it again and soon it was gone again from the taskmanagaer list of running apps. I looked around and I think this has something to do with memory management in WM. I don't know why this problem just started. It kills the apps even though I have over 80M or even more of free memory.
Any ideas of what I can do? Are there any registry settings that need to be adjusted?
Thanks for your help.
Eli

ZuinigeRijder · Mar 12, 2012

reidler said:
Hi. Recently I started experiencing a problem where WM 6.5 just closes running apps. I don't know why this happens. I noticed that I was not getting emails and saw that the email program was not running. I started it again and soon it was gone again from the taskmanagaer list of running apps. I looked around and I think this has something to do with memory management in WM. I don't know why this problem just started. It kills the apps even though I have over 80M or even more of free memory.
Any ideas of what I can do? Are there any registry settings that need to be adjusted?
Thanks for your help.
Eli

There is a limit of 32 processes max in Windows Mobile.
Note that BattClock can monitor the number of processes and also show the started/stopped processes. Maybe that gives a clue or at least you can see something has been killed?

reidler · Mar 12, 2012

ZuinigeRijder said:
There is a limit of 32 processes max in Windows Mobile.
Note that BattClock can monitor the number of processes and also show the started/stopped processes. Maybe that gives a clue or at least you can see something has been killed?

Oh, that sounds interesting. How can I see that information? Is it in a log file? Do I need to turn something on and where should I look to see?
Meanwhile - I told Battclock to show me the number of processes. I'm around 26 running processes (up and down). I started a bunch more apps and when Battclock showed me 32 I saw it would not open any more. It gave me a warning screen with a message that it could not start the next process.

The problem had just started but took me about a week to figure out what happened. During the problem the memory stayed high - over 90mb free and only a few applications were running (1, 2 or 3). I found a patch called AUTOCLOSEPATCH.CAB. I installed that. It had made some changes in the registry under key HKLM\System\OOM. Then the phone went back to normal again.

I could start 10-12 applications at once (I was just testing. I never run so many - my main problem was just that my email program would keep getting stopped). Later I see that the registry keys in HKLM\System\OOM went back to the original numbers but still worked ok. So I think that something went bad and that the patch changed something back. I'm really not sure. I hope it stays good. I see my free program memory level hovers around 40-70 free megabytes now.

Just one of the Windows Mobile quirks I guess. I still continue to have the other problems I mentioned that once in a while the sound turns off and sometimes the accelerometer stops. I called HTC but they were not able to help. So it's RESET - RESET - RESET.

Thank you. I MISS THE BATTCLOCK UPDATES AND ENHANCEMENTS and the dicsussions in this thread.

Eli

ZuinigeRijder · Mar 13, 2012

reidler said:
Oh, that sounds interesting. How can I see that information? Is it in a log file? Do I need to turn something on and where should I look to see?
Meanwhile - I told Battclock to show me the number of processes. I'm around 26 running processes (up and down). I started a bunch more apps and when Battclock showed me 32 I saw it would not open any more. It gave me a warning screen with a message that it could not start the next process.

The problem had just started but took me about a week to figure out what happened. During the problem the memory stayed high - over 90mb free and only a few applications were running (1, 2 or 3). I found a patch called AUTOCLOSEPATCH.CAB. I installed that. It had made some changes in the registry under key HKLM\System\OOM. Then the phone went back to normal again. I could start 10-12 applications at once (I was just testing. I never run so many - my main problem was just that my email program would keep getting stopped). Later I see that the registry keys in HKLM\System\OOM went back to the original numbers but still worked ok. So I think that something went bad and that the patch changed something back. I'm really not sure. I hope it stays good. I see my free program memory level hovers around 40-70 free megabytes now.

Just one of the Windows Mobile quirks I guess. I still continue to have the other problems I mentioned that once in a while the sound turns off and sometimes the accelerometer stops. I called HTC but they were not able to help. So it's RESET - RESET - RESET.

Thank you. I MISS THE BATTCLOCK UPDATES AND ENHANCEMENTS and the dicsussions in this thread.
Eli

In CONTENT settings screen you can configure:
- CLOCKINFO_PROCESS_INFO, Destroyed/Created processes names, prepended with resp. - and + sign, all the changes are displayed one per second, till the last change.

And of course you can also to configure to log this information.

reidler · Apr 12, 2012

Hi Zuinige.

I'm starting on a new project and will need to learn how to program for cell phone applications. I wonder if you can start me off. I have been programming on big machines, not even PCs. Where should I start? What do you recommend?

I don't know what language(s) cell phone applications are written in. What language did you write Battclock in? Of course it would be best to write in a language that can work on the Android, iPhone and Windows Mobile platforms. Is that possible? I understand that Battclock can not run on Android or iPhone so I wonder if that might not be possible or you would have done that. Unless it's because you had to interract with the OS and that interraction might be too different. I don't know.

The project I will be working on will be a standalone application. I don't *think* it needs to interact with the OS but since I haven't done it yet I don't know if that is accurate either.

I would appreciate if you could give me ideas on a place to start. I suppose if I need to limit it then they will want me to write for iPhone and Android. (I don't even have an Android phone).

Thanks a lot.
Eli

ZuinigeRijder · Apr 12, 2012

reidler said:
Hi Zuinige.

I'm starting on a new project and will need to learn how to program for cell phone applications. I wonder if you can start me off. I have been programming on big machines, not even PCs. Where should I start? What do you recommend?

I don't know what language(s) cell phone applications are written in. What language did you write Battclock in? Of course it would be best to write in a language that can work on the Android, iPhone and Windows Mobile platforms. Is that possible? I understand that Battclock can not run on Android or iPhone so I wonder if that might not be possible or you would have done that. Unless it's because you had to interract with the OS and that interraction might be too different. I don't know.

The project I will be working on will be a standalone application. I don't *think* it needs to interact with the OS but since I haven't done it yet I don't know if that is accurate either.

I would appreciate if you could give me ideas on a place to start. I suppose if I need to limit it then they will want me to write for iPhone and Android. (I don't even have an Android phone).

Thanks a lot.
Eli

iPhone/iPad = iOS = Objective-C language
Android = Java
Windows Mobile = C++ and/or C#
Windows Phone = Silverlight/C#

To overcome these problems to have to write your applications for every platform, there are tools/development environment which can target more mobile operating systems.

One good one is PhoneGap, see this link

It is based on HTML5 + Javascript.

phixion35 · Jul 5, 2012

I know there's no further developement here of BattClock, but is there any way to have the battery temperature display in fahrenheit rather than celcius?

ZuinigeRijder · Jul 5, 2012

phixion35 said:
I know there's no further developement here of BattClock, but is there any way to have the battery temperature display in fahrenheit rather than celcius?

Calculation of Celcius to Fahrenheit can be done using formula:

F = (Celcius * 9 / 5) + 32

In display formats settings screen you can specify Multiply = 9 and Divide = 5, unfortunately you cannot add 32. You can try to compensate the formula, because the celcius will be in a sort of range. Maybe others have a great idea?

phixion35 · Jul 6, 2012

The +32 add is what keeps it from being possible since it only had a multiply and divide field, but not one for adding... =/

ZuinigeRijder · Jul 6, 2012

phixion35 said:
The +32 add is what keeps it from being possible since it only had a multiply and divide field, but not one for adding... =/

Maybe I should add this option if there is still enough interest for this feature....

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