NBH_WM7_AKU_6176_WWE_for_HTC_MONDRIAN

mightymn · May 17, 2010

That reg entry on the Leo is "ID"="4.3in WVGA Optrex" too. checking some more entries...

OK, I've until now checked these folders and they are exactly the same as the Leo:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Display\Settings\ILCDC]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Display\Settings\ILCDCgordon]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\Display\Settings\EBI2]

Of course it doesn't seem like these are important entries

checked [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\GSensor]
other than Prefix=ECS all other entries have different values. And these two don't exist in the Leo:
"SensorEnableMask"=dword:0
"SensorPollingMask"=dword:0

If that "ECS" is the sensor manufacturer, the sensor may be the same as that of Leo

This one is identical too:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\DCompassAPI]

It seems like most entries are the same or simillar and that's expected as it's still Win CE

Da_G · May 17, 2010

Since most of these binaries are compiled for ARMv7, i would be interested if any of the native code would run under CE 5.x/WM 6.x on an ARMv7 capable device (HTC Leo, LG Expo, etc.)

The only device I have (AT&T Tilt 2) can't run ARMv7 code, so that pretty much stops me in my tracks where I am

mightymn · May 17, 2010

Da_G said:
Since most of these binaries are compiled for ARMv7, i would be interested if any of the native code would run under CE 5.x/WM 6.x on an ARMv7 capable device (HTC Leo, LG Expo, etc.)

The only device I have (AT&T Tilt 2) can't run ARMv7 code, so that pretty much stops me in my tracks where I am

I can try some executables on the Leo if you want

Where should I get them?

Da_G · May 17, 2010

Post 2, IMGFS dump

TehPenguin · May 17, 2010

VisualD said:
Indeed, supports cards, they just cannot be user removable.

Actually, they CAN be user removable:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=649938

HOWEVER, the device will not function unless the card is inserted.
This means that you CAN REMOVE the card, clone the data onto a larger card, then INSERT THE NEW CARD (You just can't keep switching between two separate cards).

norgan · May 17, 2010

Da_G said:
Post 2, IMGFS dump

i'll give some a shot also, might even try cook some in lol

Star-Lite · May 17, 2010

TehPenguin said:
Actually, they CAN be user removable:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=649938

HOWEVER, the device will not function unless the card is inserted.
This means that you CAN REMOVE the card, clone the data onto a larger card, then INSERT THE NEW CARD (You just can't keep switching between two separate cards).

I read another article on it and they mentioned that "the will become unusable if certain files got removed from the SD-Card". So it looks like you can indeed not remove the card, but as long as you copy those needed files (I would guess the 'windows' directory) to a new card you can safely remove your pictures etc without bricking your phone.

norgan · May 17, 2010

Da_G said:
Since most of these binaries are compiled for ARMv7, i would be interested if any of the native code would run under CE 5.x/WM 6.x on an ARMv7 capable device (HTC Leo, LG Expo, etc.)

The only device I have (AT&T Tilt 2) can't run ARMv7 code, so that pretty much stops me in my tracks where I am

so if i try to run mptest.exe or pwrlogctrl.exe they just throw an unsigned or components missing exception.

i am going to cook a couple of the modules and see if they compile with thier required libaries.

e.g. calc7.exe with the calc*.dll's, calendar, office, onenote and compass. i'll let you know if i get any results.

are we going to have a problem with this special device specific certificate thing that windows 7 requires? will each app need to be signed by that root cert before they will even run i wonder?

EV Kitchen just skips over them, obviously the modules are not compatible with the kitchens we are using yet. Da_G Is there anything more we can do with these to try to get them running?
i chose the most obvious ones being the exe's with icons, meaning they are recognised as w32 exe's. None of them seems to run. are there any wp7 certs we need to load or anything?

mightymn · May 17, 2010

Da_G said:
Post 2, IMGFS dump

hum... I tried some exes like switchtocdma.exe and switchtogsm.exe
Nothing happens when you click on them. This is the reaction for all exe files I tried. Admittedly, these aren't really good files to try as they rely on drivers.
Unlike 6.X dumps, there aren't many exe files here, like iexplore.exe, etc... and there's no dll file at all! (there are some, but not nearly as much as 6.X ROMs. All exes and dlls are folders in which there's no exe or dll file)

I really don't know what to do with this dump, lol

Is it possible that IMGFS isn't dumped correctly?

imfloflo · May 17, 2010

Maybe this blog post can help in the comprehension of some .net programs for wp7 : http://blogs.msdn.com/abhinaba/

nicandris · May 17, 2010

oki have a question. i remember my polaris losing its hardware value (i mean the hardware identification POLA100) after some "flashes". i got it back on via a command line tool (sorry for the missing info i have been away from the wm scenery for a while). Now the question. is it possible to change the value of any device to let's say MONDR100 and flash the ruu? i know we will be missing drivers and stuff but wouldn't this make it possible for a complete dump?

possible?

Nokser · May 17, 2010

Maybe someone has xip.bin file from this WP7?

vijay555 · May 17, 2010

But can I use this on my HTC Magician?

[you've gotta be an old poster to get the joke... I hope!]

V

ckacey · May 17, 2010

vladimir2989 said:
culd this be a little pic of the device u get when u connect Windows Phone to PC like when u connect HD2 to Windows Mobile Device Centre it have the pic oh HD2 on it...
and when first WM6.1 come out, there was a default image, before it actually looked like device that was synced,
could this b some for this Mondrian... or just default WP7 icon...

oh and by the way, there is no way to sync it with pc at the moment, right ? becouse it will sync with Zune thing and i don't know if current zune player app will work with it...

Zune was updated to sync with the Kin devices, perhaps it already knows what to do with WinPho7? or we could trick it into thinking a Kin was connected, but not allow it to do firmware updates.

derliebewolf · May 17, 2010

Haha, Nice one. Gime a ROM image and I try and sacrifice mine :-D

vijay555 said:
But can I use this on my HTC Magician?

[you've gotta be an old poster to get the joke... I hope!]

V

Anyway. Not sure this is the right place but I dig into some files like settings and registry and to me it clearly looks like WP7 will use WIFi triangulation (?) to determine you current position in assistance to GPS and similar. It's that thing that Google got damned for doing in Germany right now by scanning private Networks (SSID AND content)

if someone is interested have a closer look at this: http://pastebin.com/E6ensBfu (especialy the Values with "FriendlyName")

NoWorthWhile · May 17, 2010

ckacey said:
Zune was updated to sync with the Kin devices, perhaps it already knows what to do with WinPho7? or we could trick it into thinking a Kin was connected, but not allow it to do firmware updates.

Yes, AFAIK, there were references to 3 phones in the Software: Kin one, Kin two, and another one. So IMHO, that should be WP7.

pupakota · May 17, 2010

vijay555 said:
But can I use this on my HTC Magician?

[you've gotta be an old poster to get the joke... I hope!]

hahaha, i love that visualized despair(NO, it is not possible). been a days...
cotulla, where are you?

domineus · May 17, 2010

mightymn said:
hum... I tried some exes like switchtocdma.exe and switchtogsm.exe
Nothing happens when you click on them. This is the reaction for all exe files I tried. Admittedly, these aren't really good files to try as they rely on drivers.
Unlike 6.X dumps, there aren't many exe files here, like iexplore.exe, etc... and there's no dll file at all! (there are some, but not nearly as much as 6.X ROMs. All exes and dlls are folders in which there's no exe or dll file)

I really don't know what to do with this dump, lol

Is it possible that IMGFS isn't dumped correctly?

is it possible that they are also reg and .dll dependent? it could be one reason why the .exes may not be working...just a thought but as far as compatibility with leo I'm like you and nothing runs =(

As for the possibility...hum good possibility. I guess we can wait a few days or someone can ask tom if they have a better relationship with him to see if he can help...even though he used jtag flash he should be able to help on some rudimentary stuff like this

mightymn · May 17, 2010

domineus said:
is it possible that they are also reg and .dll dependent? it could be one reason why the .exes may not be working...just a thought but as far as compatibility with leo I'm like you and nothing runs =(

As for the possibility...hum good possibility. I guess we can wait a few days or someone can ask tom if they have a better relationship with him to see if he can help...even though he used jtag flash he should be able to help on some rudimentary stuff like this

Well yes it's possible. Drivers are actually dll files too, and yes most exes have necessary dll files.

But the interesting part is that these exe files don't give errors such as "not a valid pocket pc app" or sth like that. I think they may actually be compatible...

domineus · May 17, 2010

mightymn said:
Well yes it's possible. Drivers are actually dll files too, and yes most exes have necessary dll files.

But the interesting part is that these exe files don't give errors such as "not a valid pocket pc app" or sth like that. I think they may actually be compatible...

what about dependency
are the base files possibly using the silverlight bs microsoft is trying to push toward developers?
I mean if they are running it may not be .net related problems but silverlight...saying that they work (because I only tried one because sd card reformat =/) is interesting...I wonder if the kernel code...
hum why did this happen when I have school and acupuncture today!? GAH! I want to investigate it further

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