Is there a way to downgrade from 4.4.2 into 4.3 in the near future?

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gidzdlcrz

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Hi guys. Ive been reading a lot about this one. And i find it very imposible to do right now. I saw some thread here regarding to this one that im posting right now. So my main concern is is there a way to downgrade this kitkat into jellybean? Put aside note 3 for now. Does it work on other phones as well? Because i really dont like the new kitkat and i want to go back from 4.3. Yeah yeah i did some research regarding to this because of the new bootloader. I really hope that we can be able to downgrade.
 

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Hi guys. Ive been reading a lot about this one. And i find it very imposible to do right now. I saw some thread here regarding to this one that im posting right now. So my main concern is is there a way to downgrade this kitkat into jellybean? Put aside note 3 for now. Does it work on other phones as well? Because i really dont like the new kitkat and i want to go back from 4.3. Yeah yeah i did some research regarding to this because of the new bootloader. I really hope that we can be able to downgrade.

No... Samsung give out updates, they don't expect you to downgrade.... Besides, the upgrades are supposed to add performance and remove security exploits.... Why would they allow you to go back to something that's not so well protected and possibly damage your device that then gets fixed under warranty....
 

gidzdlcrz

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Yes officially. You can't downgrade. But im asking is there a way or in the near future that we can go back to jellybean? Again lets put aside note 3 for now since it is still new. Lets think.... Note 2! For example i updated to 4.4.X as well. Can i go back to 4.2.1?
 

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God almighty. .why would you want to. ..who wants to go backwords. ..If you do...why did you go forwards. .I loved the escort mark 2 but I sure as hell wouldn't swap my focus for one... (the only way this might not apply is with women lol):thumbup:

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Mate for the 10000000th time, everyone read your question and is trying to explain that downgrading the software of a smartphone is stupid. Especially true for the Note 3, 4.3 to 4.4.

The only reason you might want to downgrade, is that you want to put CM on your device. In which case ask so. It is unlikely that you will be able to downgrade, more likely CM will get support for the new BL
 

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Its a fair enough question to ask. I would also like a dafe way to downgrade to install things like CM. IMO its a control thing. One that I dont like. But it is what it is.

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GigabitEthernet

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Its a fair enough question to ask. I would also like a dafe way to downgrade to install things like CM. IMO its a control thing. One that I dont like. But it is what it is.

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It was fair enough, the first time, but every ****ing question is this one! People should learn to read/use the search button/use Google.
 

Mguttsche

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It was fair enough, the first time, but every ****ing question is this one! People should learn to read/use the search button/use Google.

You should learn to post nothing if this question sucks for you.


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By the way. May it is possible. Not right atm but in near future. We have to get the correct fast boot access to unlock the bootloader. Then we have to flash a file called flashall. This file is already under construction by myself but it's tricky. After this file flashed successfully we are able to flash an original bootloader from former rom.
So u see its possible. Only have to wait for a dev or anybody else who can give me fast boot access.

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Let's just be calm about this I agree we won't be seeing official downgranding but for one I would downgrade to 4.3. Android is all about choices and preferences that is one of the differences from ios we get to choose customize down to the bone...Why something older and propably not better some people have their reasons. Some people prefer that old chevy or challenger from a new mercedes I don't know. I for one miss lights effect from 4.3 the lockscreen effect. I was on stock rom unrooted and it had this effect then rooted upgraded to 4.4.2 poland and it didn't have it got a little disapointed. I agree that 4.4.2 is a better os and also agree that my reason for wanting to downgrade is somewhat stupid but that's the beauty of android from the start you get it exactly how you want it today in the world of android os we are made unable to downgrade tomorrow who knows? The liberty of choice in this os is getting smaller and smaller day by day...
 
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jetbruceli

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Ok ok
Um
No
U
Can
Not
Do
It.
Y??
It's a permanent change to the bootloader that cannot be downgraded.
If that's hard to understand then I don't know what to tell you.
But seriously read a little

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gidzdlcrz

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Geez. Some who are not reading backwards. Anyway thanks for your reply guys. I would hit thanks who deserved it.
 
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Mate for the 10000000th time, everyone read your question and is trying to explain that downgrading the software of a smartphone is stupid. Especially true for the Note 3, 4.3 to 4.4.

The only reason you might want to downgrade, is that you want to put CM on your device. In which case ask so. It is unlikely that you will be able to downgrade, more likely CM will get support for the new BL

There are more reasons to downgrade. After upgrading to KitKat my phone is messed up bad. I got reboots all the time now. I never rooted, I never installed ROMS. All is plain stock. If someone would offer me a working downgrade I would even consider paying this person for it. My phone is unreliable right now.
 

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There are more reasons to downgrade. After upgrading to KitKat my phone is messed up bad. I got reboots all the time now. I never rooted, I never installed ROMS. All is plain stock. If someone would offer me a working downgrade I would even consider paying this person for it. My phone is unreliable right now.

More infos. Wich fw do you flash, Wich phone you got? Sm-n9005, 900x, 900w8, Hong Kong edition?
What does your phone do?

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paul_59

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Consensus seems to be that you can't downgrade the Samsung Note 3 kit kat bootloader, which prevents downgrade to Jelly bean .

On other makes, e.g HTC it is possible to downgrade bootloader and Android, providing you've got S Off

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My friend galaxy note 2 is downgraded to jellybean 4.3 from kitkat 4.4.2
What he did is flash using odin and factory reset twice after got bootloop.

But I am not suggest you to do it, even though i want to do it as I feel kitkat battery life is getting worst. :(

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My friend galaxy note 2 is downgraded to jellybean 4.3 from kitkat 4.4.2
What he did is flash using odin and factory reset twice after got bootloop.

But I am not suggest you to do it, even though i want to do it as I feel kitkat battery life is getting worst. :(
 
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muhtesem insan

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I believe OP didn't try to ask same question a millionth time. What he tried to ask was, will there be a method to downgrade to JB? If that's the case it's very unlikely. In theory of course software changes can be reversed but sometimes it needs some hacking and I don't think anyone will think it's worth the effort.
 

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    My friend galaxy note 2 is downgraded to jellybean 4.3 from kitkat 4.4.2
    What he did is flash using odin and factory reset twice after got bootloop.

    But I am not suggest you to do it, even though i want to do it as I feel kitkat battery life is getting worst. :(

    ---------- Post added at 05:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:22 PM ----------

    My friend galaxy note 2 is downgraded to jellybean 4.3 from kitkat 4.4.2
    What he did is flash using odin and factory reset twice after got bootloop.

    But I am not suggest you to do it, even though i want to do it as I feel kitkat battery life is getting worst. :(
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    God almighty. .why would you want to. ..who wants to go backwords. ..If you do...why did you go forwards. .I loved the escort mark 2 but I sure as hell wouldn't swap my focus for one... (the only way this might not apply is with women lol):thumbup:

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    Its a fair enough question to ask. I would also like a dafe way to downgrade to install things like CM. IMO its a control thing. One that I dont like. But it is what it is.

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    Its a fair enough question to ask. I would also like a dafe way to downgrade to install things like CM. IMO its a control thing. One that I dont like. But it is what it is.

    Sent from my SM-N9005 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
    Did you even read the post befors you?
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    Yeah dude, I'm so totally in agreement with you. My note 3 was fast, snappy, fluid, and just awesome all around till I upgraded to kit kat lol.

    After using some google-fu, the reason why we can't downgrade from KK is because the qfuse was blown/tripped while updating. The qfuse is a physical part of the mobo and when its blown, its just not feasible to downgrade anymore I think. Yes, Sammy intended to blow/trip the qfuse.

    Many reported that after updating, the sdcard could not be read, low or no signals, sluggishness, unexpected reboots, endless loops, battering draining rapidly, and so on. The solution was to do a factory reset which ended up fixing a lot of the issues. I reset my phone twice after updating and none of the problems mentioned happened to my phone.

    However, I did experience that my phone was not as snappy and fluid as it was with JB. My 4G/LTE signals were very weak and my apps did not open as fast before. My banking app took forever to open. I was so pissed off. Entering my pin at the lock screen is sluggish and other things that I started to notice really disappointed me.

    I called my carrier to complain about the update and told them my signal was always weak, peaking at one or two bars. The rep reset my signal connection and its okay but not as great as before. My apps open up a bit faster now.

    I didn't know if you realized that Sammy took kit kat and customized the hell out of it. Its not Google's fault or that kit kat sucks. Place the blame on Sammy because I don't think the custom KK update was fully tested. It was more like it was rushed imo.

    I won't be able to downgrade or root.

    Yea same, note 3 on MJ1 was perfect, MJ7 brought battery drain and removed root, and kitkat got rid of a lot of features, fixed the battery problem (battery life is still worse than MJ1 tho), then brought a even bigger problem as occasionally music player would freeze and forces me to reset the phone as it completely freezes in about 5 mins if i leave it and it would not shut down using the option on the menu.

    Bottom line is, if i could downgrade back to MJ1, I'll definitely do it.