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mssidah

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Folks,

Please take a Min and help a me out. Me and wife are currently stationed and residing in Kuwait. Kuwait launched 4G LTE service late last year. The LTE network runs on 1800MHz band 3. the same Band as Telstra Australia, and O2 Germany. i have tired almost everything to get my LTE working, yet no luck. Now, the service run on the Iphone 5 and my LTE USB dongle with no problems.

List of things i tried.

1- flashed the following firmware
a- JB Telstra Australia
b- JB Orange France- LTE ON
c- JB SFR France- LTE ON
d- JB Retail Brazilian

Currently running JB O2 Germany

2- tired the service menu to switch to LTE and that didn't work.

3- Attempted to change the band but unable to select or change.

4- the SIM card work fine on the Iphone, so no sim issue

5- The service is activated
 

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4G isn't really LTE. Since you said it uses the same band as used the other 2 providers you should be able to access LTE by flashing the correct radios or the whole rom & using an LTE sim

Sent from my XT925
 

Skrilax_CZ

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Also O2 Germany has 800/2600 bands. From which carrier did you purchase your phone?
 
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thund3rbay

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This phone don't have the 1800 MHZ band ... only 700/1700 mhz band :( There are two different phone ! One for north america ! One for the rest of the world ! This is just not a baseband question or rom problem... i have post it on many topic but many people think this is the same phone :( the Fido/Rogers support LTE in 700/1700 band .. and support only hspa to 21mbits ( no DC-HSPA up to 42mbits like others country ! )
Sorry ! You never get LTE !
 
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mssidah

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This phone don't have the 1800 MHZ band ... only 700/1700 mhz band :( There are two different phone ! One for north america ! One for the rest of the world ! This is just not a baseband question or rom problem... i have post it on many topic but many people think this is the same phone :( the Fido/Rogers support LTE in 700/1700 band .. and support only hspa to 21mbits ( no DC-HSPA up to 42mbits like others country ! )
Sorry ! You never get LTE !

Well. this just sucks big time!!!!! :crying: im glad someone have an answer after all
 

UserDemos

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Just a quick thought. Did you check with your provider for a separate LTE APN?

I would probably be running the Telestra ROM to check this. Make sure your service menu reads "LTE/GSM/WCDMA". You can't select bands, but make sure it is "Automatic (2G/3G/4G)".

Looks like your phone should have the one that looks like "action.wataniya.com" (http://10.wataniya.com/customercare/configure/default_en_gb.aspx). Perhaps, also give them a call to check whether their site is up-to-date and this is the correct APN for their LTE network. Also, check your wife's phone. Is she using the same APN?

Just trying to help you troubleshoot.

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This phone don't have the 1800 MHZ band ... only 700/1700 mhz band :( There are two different phone ! One for north america ! One for the rest of the world ! This is just not a baseband question or rom problem... i have post it on many topic but many people think this is the same phone :( the Fido/Rogers support LTE in 700/1700 band .. and support only hspa to 21mbits ( no DC-HSPA up to 42mbits like others country ! )
Sorry ! You never get LTE !

Can you provide documentation? Motorola's site seems to suggest there is only one version based on their technical certifications. Which "model" are you using if I may ask. If you're using the "800/1800/2600" version, would you mind giving me the information on the back of your phone so I can dig up some info (FCC ID, Type, and IC ID). This will help look up documents in their technical specifications to confirm two models or more, if they exist.

It seems weird that Motorola would issue a XT926 just for a CDMA and only ONE XT925 number for multiple models (some of which do run CDMA)? It doesn't make sense from a business perspective either. Why produce many different GSM models, when you can produce one and alter the firmware (if for example it doesn't sell in Australia, flash a new ROM, repackage it, and ship it to Canada).

Just my two cents. If you have any of that info, PM me. I'd love to look into it.
 
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mssidah

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Just a quick thought. Did you check with your provider for a separate LTE APN?

I would probably be running the Telestra ROM to check this. Make sure your service menu reads "LTE/GSM/WCDMA". You can't select bands, but make sure it is "Automatic (2G/3G/4G)".

Looks like your phone should have the one that looks like "action.wataniya.com" (http://10.wataniya.com/customercare/configure/default_en_gb.aspx). Perhaps, also give them a call to check whether their site is up-to-date and this is the correct APN for their LTE network. Also, check your wife's phone. Is she using the same APN?

Just trying to help you troubleshoot.

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Can you provide documentation? Motorola's site seems to suggest there is only one version based on their technical certifications. Which "model" are you using if I may ask. If you're using the "800/1800/2600" version, would you mind giving me the information on the back of your phone so I can dig up some info (FCC ID, Type, and IC ID). This will help look up documents in their technical specifications to confirm two models or more, if they exist.

It seems weird that Motorola would issue a XT926 just for a CDMA and only ONE XT925 number for multiple models (some of which do run CDMA)? It doesn't make sense from a business perspective either. Why produce many different GSM models, when you can produce one and alter the firmware (if for example it doesn't sell in Australia, flash a new ROM, repackage it, and ship it to Canada).

Just my two cents. If you have any of that info, PM me. I'd love to look into it.


Sir- I want to point out that wataniya is not the provider for the LTE in Kuwait. I had I different SIM card when I took the screenshots. In fact it’s a US AT&T sim that roaming on Wataniya Telcom in Kuwait. The LTE provider in question is Zain Kuwait https://www.kw.zain.com/kw/af/home.do?lang=en . plus I have tried the Telestra firmware and used the correct APN for zain; the same APN I used on the iPhone 5 and the USB dongle. To add, I tried using the LTE/GSM/WCDMA, LTE/WCDMA, and LTE alone options and had it at automatic (2G/3G/4G When I set it at only LTE I lose single completely. The other options allow me 3G H+ only.

UserDemos makes a lot of sense! There are only two modles out there. The 926 and 925. I believed that 925 can run on LTE 700 / 800 / 1700 / 1800 / 2600 as advertised by Moto. She I don’t know where the problem is? Anyways the info as showen in the back of the phone are Model XT925 FCCID: IHDT56NG9 TYPE:M0D46 IC ID:109O-T56NG9 . and the BIG CE number is CE0168.

Thanks for not giving up :good:
 

Power_Getter

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Yes I confirmed that you bought the wrong phone.
This what happened to me. I'm in Etisalat 4G, so if you want razr hd with enabled 4G lte you should buy it from Australia or UK.
I recommend Clove or Handtec the release date after 2 days.
 

UserDemos

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Yes I confirmed that you bought the wrong phone.
This what happened to me. I'm in Etisalat 4G, so if you want razr hd with enabled 4G lte you should buy it from Australia or UK.
I recommend Clove or Handtec the release date after 2 days.

Can you provide proof for the rest of the members here? Some of us are curious to know about the bizarre way this phone was manufactured.
 

Skrilax_CZ

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In many cases such as Milestone, Milestone 2 etc. there was a Canada / Latin American version and Europe / Asia version with different 3G bands - yet, the phone was called the same for all these versions (MS1 -> A853). Verizon's CDMA Droid (A855) was called differently and other CDMA carriers also had different name (such as MS A854).

This is the same thing, only about 4G bands.
 

Power_Getter

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There are 3 version of Razr Hd
XT926 for Verizon
XT925 for Canada, 4G band 700/1700/2100
XT925 for UK & Australia 4G bands 800/1800/2600
 
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UserDemos

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There are 3 version of Razr Hd
XT926 for Verizon
XT925 for Canada, 4G band 700/1700/2100
XT925 for UK & Australia 4G bands 800/1800/2600

We understand what you're saying, but if you don't supply PROOF to back up your claims, then it's going to be hard for anyone to acknowledge you're right.

Which version are you using? Provide us with the info on the bottom, so we can see what it looks like compared to the other version.
 
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thund3rbay

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There are 3 version of Razr Hd
XT926 for Verizon WITH LTE BAND FOR VERIZON ONLY ( BUT WORK IN HSPA WORLDWIDE TOO)
XT925 for Canada (and some others LATAM ) , 4G band 700/AWS ( no dual Channel HSPA up to 21 mbits )
XT925 for EUROPE & Australia 4G bands 800/1800/2600 ( and some LATAM country) ( Have Dual Channel HSPA up TO 42 mbits )
Is just not a baseband problem like many people say ... if the hardware don't support ... the hardware don't support ! Yes some phone have hidden band ! but not the case in the moto hd

I confirm again and again...
Proof is very difficult to find... but Motorola have made a bad move
but on the rogers website :
Connectivity
GSM Bands:
850/900/1800/1900

HSPA Bands:
850/900/1900/2100

LTE Bands:
700/AWS

Device Speed (LTE):
Up to 75 Mbps1

Wi-Fi:
Yes; 802.11a/b/g/n

GPS:
Yes

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Proof :
Motorola Australia
Networks LTE 800/1800/2600, UMTS 850/900/1900/2100, GSM/ 850/900/1800/1900, HSDPA is 42.2

Motorola De
Very ****ing
CDMA 800 1900, LTE B13, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 EVDO Rev. A, HSDPA 21,1 Mbit/s (Kategorie 14), HSUPA 5,76 Mbit/s

This is the verizon specs (LTE B13 is the verizon 700 mhz band ... only used by verizon for the moment ) ... but deutchland is the same as australia... Motorola people work bad !

Motorola France
Nothing lol don't take any chance... and Orange carrier in France by exemple have a firmware who block LTE ! Lte actived only on SFR rom... again this is the
Networks LTE 800/1800/2600, UMTS 850/900/1900/2100, GSM/ 850/900/1800/1900, HSDPA is 42.2
Version !

Motorola UK
Networks 12 CDMA 800 1900, LTE B13, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 EVDO Rev. A, HSDPA 21.1 Mbps (Cat 14), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps

AGAIN the ****ing Motorola guy have copy and paste from the Motorola US website ...
But the phone is
Networks LTE 800/1800/2600, UMTS 850/900/1900/2100, GSM/ 850/900/1800/1900, HSDPA is 42.2

Motorola Canada ...
Networks LTE B4 B17, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900, HSDPA 21.1 Mbps (Cat 14), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
LTE 700/AWS (1700) ONLYYYYY !!!!!
and 21 mbits !!!

Motorola U.S
CDMA 800 1900, LTE B13, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 EVDO Rev. A, HSDPA 21,1 Mbit/s (Kategorie 14), HSUPA 5,76 Mbit/s

Motorola Mexico
Redes LTE: 700/1700 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100 HSDPA+ HSUPA: 5.76 Mbps EDGE GPRS
The same as Rogers/Fido !

Motorola Brazil :
LTE: 700/1700 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100 HSDPA+ HSUPA: 5.76 Mbps EDGE GPRS
Again same version as the Canadian and Mexico version ;p

Motorola Argentina :
LTE: 700/1700 GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100 HSDPA+ HSUPA: 5.76 Mbps EDGE GPRS
....

There are 3 version :
1 for Europe/Some asia-pacific !
1 for Canada and some latam
1 for U.S.A with Cdma and Lte just for U.S

if you want lte just check the band in your country ... and buy the device you want ...
If you want best battery go with the xt926 ... but you never get LTE . only 21mbits HSPA around the world !
if you want DC HSPA because no LTE ... buy the Europe Asia Version ... ( My carrier telus in canada have great DC HSPA coverage and speed are great near 25 mbits in download - i have sold my rogers version for the europeen version ... i never get LTE but my baterry is really good ... and have DC hspa in many many place )
if you want LTE choose the right phone before buying...

and oh yes ... the Motorola phone from U.S ... you can't unlock the bootloader !
and again don't listen people who claim is the same phone and this is just a baseband file problem !
 
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    Just a quick thought. Did you check with your provider for a separate LTE APN?

    I would probably be running the Telestra ROM to check this. Make sure your service menu reads "LTE/GSM/WCDMA". You can't select bands, but make sure it is "Automatic (2G/3G/4G)".

    Looks like your phone should have the one that looks like "action.wataniya.com" (http://10.wataniya.com/customercare/configure/default_en_gb.aspx). Perhaps, also give them a call to check whether their site is up-to-date and this is the correct APN for their LTE network. Also, check your wife's phone. Is she using the same APN?

    Just trying to help you troubleshoot.

    ---------- Post added at 12:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:33 PM ----------

    This phone don't have the 1800 MHZ band ... only 700/1700 mhz band :( There are two different phone ! One for north america ! One for the rest of the world ! This is just not a baseband question or rom problem... i have post it on many topic but many people think this is the same phone :( the Fido/Rogers support LTE in 700/1700 band .. and support only hspa to 21mbits ( no DC-HSPA up to 42mbits like others country ! )
    Sorry ! You never get LTE !

    Can you provide documentation? Motorola's site seems to suggest there is only one version based on their technical certifications. Which "model" are you using if I may ask. If you're using the "800/1800/2600" version, would you mind giving me the information on the back of your phone so I can dig up some info (FCC ID, Type, and IC ID). This will help look up documents in their technical specifications to confirm two models or more, if they exist.

    It seems weird that Motorola would issue a XT926 just for a CDMA and only ONE XT925 number for multiple models (some of which do run CDMA)? It doesn't make sense from a business perspective either. Why produce many different GSM models, when you can produce one and alter the firmware (if for example it doesn't sell in Australia, flash a new ROM, repackage it, and ship it to Canada).

    Just my two cents. If you have any of that info, PM me. I'd love to look into it.
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    There are 3 version of Razr Hd
    XT926 for Verizon
    XT925 for Canada, 4G band 700/1700/2100
    XT925 for UK & Australia 4G bands 800/1800/2600

    We understand what you're saying, but if you don't supply PROOF to back up your claims, then it's going to be hard for anyone to acknowledge you're right.

    Which version are you using? Provide us with the info on the bottom, so we can see what it looks like compared to the other version.