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MTAlmeida

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That is it...
Entropy and Chasmodo have said it all !!

The defective firmware came with our devices, on the controller of the eMMC, not with the ICS rom, but the ICS kernel has some unique feature that can trigger the problem on the chip, which dosen't happen on the GB kernel or I9100 rev 4!
So, unless Samsung release a fix to wipe the chip and reinstall every thing again (which I doubt, and if it happens probably will have to be done on Samsung's autorized support centers) we will always have a defective chip, because of the firmware in it.

People who have bricked using Odin is because they wipe just before enter download mode to flash with Odin.
If someone are on ICS and not bricked is because the eMMC controller is not afected by the kernel yet, but when he (or she) wipe before going to dowload, that wipe bricks the fone. So, even if this person dosen't go to download mode with Odin, the fone will not reboot, because it is already bricked. The wipe did the brick, not Odin.

It doesn't happen 100% of the times, but has high chances to happen !
 
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MTAlmeida said:
That is it...
Entropy and Chasmodo have said it all !!


It doesn't happen 100% of the times, but has high chances to happen !
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i understand what you are saying but i have some problem with that last statement. and i understand most devs in here do same the same thing..
my day job is as a software developer, no i don't do android apps, but do java at work. and to me if theres a bug theres always a set of circumstances that will trigger a bug, and that set is finite, and that set is true in so much as that it will always trigger a bug i.e. is not ambiguous.
So when i hear ppl here saying...if u wipe u may get lucky...or unlucky that doesn't flow with how software works.
Now I am making the assumption that the problem is software related and not hardware. if it were hardware of coarse erasing any HDD by x amount of time will deteriorate the disks heads and segments...but if the problem is software, in principle you are dealing with 1 and 0s ..so it can either be 1 OR 0 but it can't be one day 1 or one day 0.
so if i wipe on stock recovery after flashing a new ics rom..and then boot up to google setup.. then it means that somehow i am not triggering the bug and that my set of circumstances assuming all remains equal will never trigger that bug.
so AFAIK it is important what circumstances allow for that bug to be triggered and that to me i don't think we really understand yet.
 
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This is horrendous!

I'm running a stock ICS (LPY) that was shipped by the originating telco of the device, and what I'm reading is that this bug might brick my device just by being under heavy load.

I dont even have to be customizing it?!?

right now I'm very tempted to jump to the apparent safety of CM9... but i'm not sure I can even do that safely... :-(
 
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MTAlmeida

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nandihno said:
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Now I am making the assumption that the problem is software related and not hardware.

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so AFAIK it is important what circumstances allow for that bug to be triggered and that to me i don't think we really understand yet.
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I agree, the problem is software, more exactly the firmware on the chip.

And yes I agree again, the most impostante is to find out which "unique feature" on the ICS roms triggers the bug, unfortunatly, besides Google, no one here managed to do that yet !


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P.S: I'm not a developer, I just have a good understanding of how some programming languages works ! :D
 
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I noticed that the latest LPF is not available on Kies or OTA.
Check FUS Downloader does not show it either.
Does it mean Samsung purposefully leaked it for us to test it for them ?
 
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M3TALLICA

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Thanks.
Some people would argue that 'No one is asking you to be the beta tester'.
But my point is why the !@#$ you release beta **** when kernel sources would probably fix the superbrick? We have better devs than Samsh!t !

PS
I should have created a new thread in the general section. We need more views on this.
 
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gavinfabl said:
I am certain we are beta testing for Samsung. We all.make great candidates.
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aftnoon2 said:
Maybe you're not so far of truth, unfortunately...:D

On the other hand, that should be a suicidal consumer politics for Samsung, don't you think?
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Boy124 said:
Thanks.
Some people would argue that 'No one is asking you to be the beta tester'.
But my point is why the !@#$ you release beta **** when kernel sources would probably fix the superbrick? We have better devs than Samsh!t !

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I should have created a new thread in the general section. We need more views on this.
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Well in reality we are only a small section of people buying the phone. But we are willing to stress test the Note. I really believe Samsung read the forums and probably post as a user.
 
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Just now my kies notified me an update.
Its LC1. Is it another GB update? uploadfromtaptalk1337675960349.jpg
Or its Ics?

Sent from my GT-N7000 using XDA
 
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Did u upgrade?
Isnt it ridiculous to push an GB update in ICS age?
or its just some kinda prerequisite for ics?
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That is a good question. It could well be a prerequisite, but, as usual samsung, or any other maker come to that, never actually say. But, its better to assume that if you go along with the upgrade path set by samsung via kies, it will be a safer route, and with a warranty maybe if all goes wrong. ;)
 
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    I would like to take a moment to encourage you two to keep your opinions to yourself. There is a difference between disagreeing with someone and insulting them. Your posts are childish and do not contribute to this thread in any way.

    The fact that we can flash custom ICS is NOT a solution in my book, as every kernel so far besides DAFUQ has been based on i9220 leaks, and has the risk of damaging the emmc before and after flashing.

    We've gone from first quarter to early second quarter, to mid-to-late second quarter. At least we have official CM9 support now.

    The only real thing that I would accept from Samsung is to start releasing source, going down the Sony route. If they released source for their updates, that would provide some really excellent development for our phones, and would extend their lifespan quite a bit.

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    DUE TO THE MULTIPLE POSTINGS FOR ICS RUMORS/INFORMATION.........
    •••UPDATE•••Most of the Normal Publications have Stated ICS Will Be Released in Q-2 Not to Worry That means in the Next 30-60days most likely.....stay tuned..... 3/17/12
    Please only post ALL ICS information here only All other postings will be deleted

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    All of the existing ICS rumour threads first post, have been added to this thread for future reference​



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    ICS for Note in April or May??- posted by ranjan.alva
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    SamMobile Tweets :

    Again... SGS2 updates March. Samsung started making of ics roms Note. Hopefully early leaks soon. Release Note updates April/May



    Cant believe this. Samsung said it will release in Q1.. now what??
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    Originally posted by raines43-- Well, this story on Phandroid says ICS for the S2 and the Note on March 1st; that'd be good!
    http://phandroid.com/2012/02/10/sams...medium=twitter

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    Original posting by -- robertberma:

    ics coming 1st of march. 1/3/2012
    http://nl.hardware.info/extern/nieuw...from-march-1st

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    Orginally posted by Bamboo12:

    ---------- Post added at 10:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:48 PM ----------

    [/COLOR]this is the source of the rumour https://twitter.com/#!/eldarmurtazin...06842540908545

    doesn't really say anything about the galaxy note

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    Originally Posted by androidindian Note ics not coming in march confirmed by sammobiles... http://t.co/xYuiXDEe

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    Originally posted by Chasmodo:

    Here's what SlashGear has to say about it:

    http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-gal...ider-10213019/

    "The Galaxy Note upgrade could drop anytime between March and May, Murtazin warns, while other Samsung models are also in line for an Android 4.0 refresh within that same period."
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    OMG !!!

    ICS IS HERE AS A KIES UPDATE !!!!




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