[OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4 & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new threads

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barondebxl

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Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Yeah but this is just jargon to your average consumer, they dont understand what Amoled actually is, they'll be equally happy with a new FullHD label tbh.

This time around they might be because the resolution is so high. But if it was still 720p then even the average consumer would notice.

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I'd be really happy if the S4 had an LCD screen like the DNA. That screen is unmatched. As for S600, I don't mind that much either. Day to day performance the differences are pretty much unnoticeable. A higher clocked S600 would be great.
 
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Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

I'd be really happy if the S4 had an LCD screen like the DNA. That screen is unmatched. As for S600, I don't mind that much either. Day to day performance the differences are pretty much unnoticeable. A higher clocked S600 would be great.

I agree.

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Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

So all those who Were talking about octa core etc..seems Samsung can't pull it off.. and all the flagships are now in the same plane..




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Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

So all those who Were talking about octa core etc..seems Samsung can't pull it off.. and all the flagships are now in the same plane..




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Noo.in terms of cpus the new lg optimus, htc one and galaxy s4 are in the same plane..

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Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

So all those who Were talking about octa core etc..seems Samsung can't pull it off.. and all the flagships are now in the same plane..




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So you thought that with the Exynos 5 octa Samsung was ahead?

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Noo.in terms of cpus the new lg optimus, htc one and galaxy s4 are in the same plane..

Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!

Stop being such a fanboy, your worse than apple fan boys you Samsung lot. There's not much difference between all the flagship phones this year, nothing you will notice in real life use.
 
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Stop being such a fanboy, your worse than apple fan boys you Samsung lot. There's not much difference between all the flagship phones this year, nothing you will notice in real life use.

Actually, the funniest place to be right now is the HTC One forums - where people are absolutely bricking it because the HTC One 'only' scored 34fps in GLbench - that too a pre-release model.

I may find it funny but different strokes for different folks, i guess!
 

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Stop being such a fanboy, your worse than apple fan boys you Samsung lot. There's not much difference between all the flagship phones this year, nothing you will notice in real life use.

Lmao. Its funny cos just like the htc one forums , you picked me for a fact. Stop crying.. its a fact..s600 is better than s4.. go cry and complain. .. it wont change a thing.lol

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Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Doesn't matter the processor, ok s600 clocked higher and faster than s4 pro.. But in daily life u don't need that, my s2 is fast and smooth enough for daily life.

Samsung is a ****ing **** because they don't release the source code so my phone crash too often..

I hate samsung now and won't buy the ****ing product no matter how good it is.

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Doesn't matter the processor, ok s600 clocked higher and faster than s4 pro.. But in daily life u don't need that, my s2 is fast and smooth enough for daily life.

Samsung is a ****ing **** because they don't release the source code so my phone crash too often..

I hate samsung now and won't buy the ****ing product no matter how good it is.

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Lmao. Its funny cos just like the htc one forums , you picked me for a fact. Stop crying.. its a fact..s600 is better than s4.. go cry and complain. .. it wont change a thing.lol

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It will be better ...fact , how much we will have to see... , ddr3 ram on LG Optimus G pro and sgs4 would even better for that resolution .Already htc one performs a bit less in glbenchmark due to ddr2 ram a clear indication more bandwidth is required for adreno 320 at that resolution so ddr3 would be a big plus point also .
 
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Re: [OFFICIAL]Xperia Z vs Galaxy S4(Mar14) & All Upcoming Phones-Don't start new thre

Since we are on the subject of RAM. Does the XZ have DDR2 or DDR3?

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It will be better ...fact , how much we will have to see... , ddr3 ram on LG Optimus G pro and sgs4 would even better for that resolution .Already htc one performs a bit less in glbenchmark due to ddr2 ram a clear indication more bandwidth is required for adreno 320 at that resolution so ddr3 would be a big plus point also .

Yeah .. came to know that. Was really eyeing the htc one.. we will see what s4 brings..

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Model Number: APQ8064.
Semiconductor technology: 28 nm
CPU Instruction Set: ARMv7
CPU: Up To 1.7 GHz Quad-core Krait
CPU Cache: L0: 4kB+4kB, L1: 16kB+16kB, L2: 2 MB.
GPU (Display/Video): Adreno 320 (QXGA/1080p)
Memory Technology: Dual-channel 533 MHz (8.5 GB/sec) (Sony conf is DDR3, witch is true ! We can see true Benchmarking)
Wireless Radio Technologies: BT 4.0, 802.11ac/a/b/g/n (2.4/5 GHz), (lacks cell modem)


Snapdragon 600:

Model Number: APQ8064T
CPU: Up To 1.9 GHz Quad-core Krait 300 (So I think APQ8064T much more stable with overclock ")
Memory Technology: 32-bit dual-channel LPDDR3

Other specs are the same with S4Pro
 
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Sudden Death Syndrome !

Me and two of my friends had their S3's killed by the sudden death syndrome,
I mean we were extremely disappointed by this.
Earlier I was considering to continue on the Samsung Galaxy S series as I earlier had S2 then I bought S3 and I was waiting for an S4 to come out.
They lost their customer now,
Performance-wise it seems to me that we are reaching a saturation point in smartphones, like this year the pixel density on 1080p screens on smartphones came out with will be the last thing to make any difference to the smartphones, beyond this resolution on smartphones you won't notice any difference at all even if you squeeze your face on the screen (its a different story in case of tablets).
In terms of screen technology there will be competition like TFT vs SAMOLED or vs LCD (put more fancy names here).

As far as I see the smartphone industry has figured out the processors, kind of almost figured out the screen and RAM and storage,
so these things are slowly becoming irrelevant to the average consumer. (unless you are dual-booting Ubuntu and what not)

Now there will be competition among build quality, camera (still loads of work needed in this field), software, user-interface, and most of all battery life (some serious technical revolution needed here).
We can clearly see that most of the companies have already started competing in these fields taking their focus off the processors.

This time I am choosing Sony Xperia Z only due to it's build quality and waterproof features (not so dust proof I am sure :p ).
I know it's viewing angles are bad and battery also sucks, but at-last I find it better looking and artistic than my old dead S3.
 

omersak

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Me and two of my friends had their S3's killed by the sudden death syndrome,
I mean we were extremely disappointed by this.
Earlier I was considering to continue on the Samsung Galaxy S series as I earlier had S2 then I bought S3 and I was waiting for an S4 to come out.
They lost their customer now,
Performance-wise it seems to me that we are reaching a saturation point in smartphones, like this year the pixel density on 1080p screens on smartphones came out with will be the last thing to make any difference to the smartphones, beyond this resolution on smartphones you won't notice any difference at all even if you squeeze your face on the screen (its a different story in case of tablets).
In terms of screen technology there will be competition like TFT vs SAMOLED or vs LCD (put more fancy names here).

As far as I see the smartphone industry has figured out the processors, kind of almost figured out the screen and RAM and storage,
so these things are slowly becoming irrelevant to the average consumer. (unless you are dual-booting Ubuntu and what not)

Now there will be competition among build quality, camera (still loads of work needed in this field), software, user-interface, and most of all battery life (some serious technical revolution needed here).
We can clearly see that most of the companies have already started competing in these fields taking their focus off the processors.

This time I am choosing Sony Xperia Z only due to it's build quality and waterproof features (not so dust proof I am sure :p ).
I know it's viewing angles are bad and battery also sucks, but at-last I find it better looking and artistic than my old dead S3.

Welcome.
 
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    Apparently there's news now that the new Galaxy S IV will have an 8 core CPU clocked at 1.8ghz.
    If true, I'm going to wait for Samsung instead of Sony.

    It's sad how many sheep are falling for Samsung's misleading "Octa" marketing which (falsely) implies that the device has 8 cores of equal capability.

    IT DOES NOT.

    It is a quad core device, with four additional low-power cores. More proper marketing would be 4+4 (kind of like Nvidia's 4+1 marketing).

    There's also no benefit to having four low-power cores... In any situation where you'd drop to the lowpower cores, you'll also be hotplugging out all of the extra cores. A single low-power core will provide nearly all of the power reduction benefits of a full set of low-power cores. Yes, it'll be easier to handle migration in software - but it's throwing a pile of hardware resources (hardware cost) at a software problem to make up for Samsung's utterly ****ty track record with regards to software integration and quality control. Heck, look at ICS on the I9100 - they couldn't even get basic cpufreq policy limit implementation right with that release!

    Samsung's architecture doesn't handle asymmetric core loading well at all. If you have one core maxed out, and want to run some light tasks on a second core - guess what, you have to light up that second core and run it at full tilt. Samsung has a whitepaper that claims this is a good thing, but if you look at their architecture closely (check the cpuidle driver in arch/arm/mach-exynos of their kernels...) you'll notice a nasty flaw - All of the deeper cpuidle states are disabled if more than one core is active. This means that the second core is consuming almost as much power as if it were running at 100% load even if it might only be running at 10% load. Snapdragon can actually reduce the clock/voltage of additional cores that are active but lightly loaded.

    Of course, the most important thing is software integration - absolutely awesome hardware means nothing if the software supporting it is ****. Look at the Galaxy Nexus - Thanks to Google and TI doing a great job of integrating the "Project Butter" capabilities of Jellybean, the Galaxy Nexus delivers smoother UI performance with a dual 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9 than the GS3 can with quad 1.4 GHz A9s...

    That is what you will get with the Galaxy S4 - Awesome hardware paired with utterly crap software, leading to an overall crap experience. With the Xperia Z, you'll get great hardware paired with great software - for an overall great experience.
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    Hi guys,
    What you guys thinking, are you gonna quickly buy Xperia Z or planning to wait for the official announcement of Samsung Galaxy S4 or other phones!!

    CONCLUSION

    Buy Xperia Z - if you believe in Style with sufficient power.
    Buy Galaxy S4 - if you want power house with Galaxy Signature design
    Buy HTC One - if you want better sound, better display + Style << Xperia Z

    XPERIA Z - My Opinion:
    As m coming from Galaxy Note 2, i will compare these two and here are what I think the Pros & Cons of Xperia Z:

    Pros:
    -Beautiful Design
    -Waterproof
    -Good Camera (Rear only)
    -Good Screen (View Straight)

    Cons:
    -Not the best screen (viewing angles)
    -Speaker position is horrible
    -Poor Battery Life (compared to Note2)
    -Front Camera not so good
    -Overheating Issues (can tolerate as its waterproof)
    -Cannot use Default Launcher with Xperia Widgets: Lags like anything

    WHAT I AM MISSING COMING FROM NOTE 2:
    -MultiWindow
    -Large Screen
    -Customizable Notification Bar
    -S-Pen

    For Below Comparison - credit goes to Bjray
    Cpe1u06.jpg


    MOD EDIT: Please use this thread for all your comparisons between the Xperia Z and any other phone you're thinking of buying to reduce clutter in the forums with repeat threads.

    Thanks
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    Didn't know Sony fans were as bad HTC and Apple fans. Time and time again the only argument they can come up with against Samsung is Touchwiz is ewwwww or cheap plasticky. It is pathetic to say the least and humanity continues to disappoint me.

    I have owned a Galaxy S2, Iphone 4s, Xperia S, HTC One X, Galaxy S3. I currently own a HTC 8x, LG Optimus G, and a Nexus 4. Guess what though? The GS2 and GS3 were easily two of the more well designed phones. Yes, they were light and yes they use glossy plastic but the clearance they use between the gap/crevices and rigidity and flex were perfect. Zero creaks or gaps, rigid, no flex, light, durable, and great heat sink properties etc. Very well designed handsets and much more well designed than all of my previous handsets except the Optimus G.

    I find it amazing how people can't get past the texture of a device and label them cheap just because they don't like the texture used and ignore every other area that goes into a well made design. I hope these "smart" people never become Architects or otherwise my house might be made of steel and I get cooked in it on a summers day.
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    Re: Xperia Z - Quick Buy or Wait for Galaxy S4 ?

    My experience with Sammy:

    1. Bought s2. The audio quality was real ****ty. Then the cheap plastic feel. The plastic thing surrounding bezel cracked in two places. Sold it.
    2. Bought S3. Immediately disappointed because of how 833 MB ram is always occupied by Sammy ****ty bkground processes.
    - frequent foreground app kills
    - volume button creeking sound.
    - fed up with protective back cover getting getting shaded by dusty color. Yes they forced everyone to buy white s3.
    - ****ty battery always at 44 - 48 degrees.
    - very plasticky n i've managed to never drop it. Living in a fear.
    - cross hatch patterns on screen is viewable.

    So I know what Sammy does. It wants to always keep their loyal customer buy their phone every year.
    Also 8cores in 28nm will be a disaster I think.

    But if I buy Xperia Z, I feel I can be happy with this phone for another two years.

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    I just played with the Xperia Z, the set looks good but nothing extra ordinary !!

    -Front n back finger print magnets.
    -Sound not so good.
    -Surface is too much reflective.
    -And I know Sony will launch another flagship in Q3 for sure !!

    I think I will wait for Galaxy S4 n then decide on my next phone, anyways m happy with Note 2 and Nexus 4 !!

    sent from Giant Killer Galaxy Note 2

    Well... Some of those aren't real arguments. I mean, sure, the front and back are fingerprint magnets, they're made out of glass. All glass surfaces are fingerprint magnets. The white one won't suffer from this as visibly.

    The slightly lower speaker quality is because it has to be waterproof. I personally don't really mind. As long as I can hear it ringing and can understand what people say in the occasional video it's fine with me. It's a phone, not a portable stereo system. Also, people using their phone speaker in public really annoy me :p

    The reflective surfaces were done on purpose to make it blend in with your surroundings. Put an Xperia Z on a table in a room and it'll reflect the surroundings, almost like camouflage. I quite like the idea.

    And well, the Q3 flagship... Possibly. But we haven't heard any serious leaks about it yet and Sony might just change course. Even if we'll see a Q3 flagship it won't be that much better than the Xperia Z. And when that hits the market will you complain about Sony releasing another phone in Q1 2014?

    The reasons you buy a Sony phone aren't the same as the reasons you buy a Samsung phone.

    You buy a Sony phone because you want using your phone to be an effortless, nice experience. You want to be amazed by the design every time you take it out of your pocket. You want to feel safe using it because of the solid build quality. You want to enjoy the little details in the theming, the tiny little pixel that is just perfect. The exclusive Walkman and Album apps that are the best on the market. You want to get this warm, fuzzy feeling every time you see Sony doing another nice thing for developers. You want to feel the anticipation for updates that make your phone feel brand new again. You want an Xperia because it feels like the phone that fits you.

    On the other hand the only reason you could want a Samsung is because it has the best theoretical specs. Samsung's hardware and software design do nothing for me, and their horrible marketing doesn't help either. Their design lacks refinement and sophistication. Their software lacks unity and simplicity. Samsung's support for open-source development is pretty horrible too.

    (Wow, I think I just wrote one of my best pieces of Sony marketing :p)