[OFF-TOPIC] Official Off-Topic Thread for S4 mini community

sasank360 · Jun 26, 2014

what after 4.4.2 ?????

Hello guys. I am on stock 4.2.2, I9195. If I update to 4.4.2 Germany(unbranded), will I be able to root the phone with JB root method? Also can I flash CM and other custom ROMs while on 4.4.2 bootloader? I mean should I only flash ROMs based on 4.4.2 or above?
I am already "KNOX"ed so warranty does not come in picture.
I ask this 'coz I read somewhere in this thread that it is not possible to downgrade to stock 4.2.2.
Please advise....THANKS IN ADVANCE.

Loulou-13 · Jun 26, 2014

sasank360 said:
Hello guys. I am on stock 4.2.2, I9195. If I update to 4.4.2 Germany(unbranded), will I be able to root the phone with JB root method? Also can I flash CM and other custom ROMs while on 4.4.2 bootloader? I mean should I only flash ROMs based on 4.4.2 or above?
I am already "KNOX"ed so warranty does not come in picture.
I ask this 'coz I read somewhere in this thread that it is not possible to downgrade to stock 4.2.2.
Please advise....THANKS IN ADVANCE.

yes ! you can update if you want ... but you are really in india ??? i don't know if the network "standard" is the same that European ones ... maybe not optimised .

And yes ! you can root this KK with :
- towelroot
- RootkitV2 (need recovery custom like CWM )
- CF Auto-Root

( => Knox flags seems to be not tripped with towelroot ... need real confirmation )

but you can't downgrade by ODIN with officials firmwares ...because the bootloader Know is a 2.0 ! with changes ... and impossible to downgrade it !
If you wan't to downgrade ,you can eventually flash modified firmwares ( Knox bootloader removed ) => in theory it work ,but not tested .
otherwise you can instal recovery custom for to flash modified firmwares ( .zip file) like the 2 famous "deodexed" and "impacted" ( see development thread here)

If you are happy with your 4.2.2 ,i recommend you to wait your country updates ... if you are not in European area .

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EDIT !!!

KNOX evolutions will be the future for Google too ( with Android 5.0 "L" )!!!!!!!!!

ho my god :crying:..... with much more security it's really possible that they will be impossible to root and mod the futures versions !

Like Samsung with more and more security (and after they will abandon more and more android for Tizen instead ) ....... Google take the same way ???!!! more and more closed like Apple iOS ???

=> http://www.sammobile.com/2014/06/25...egrate-knox-into-androids-next-major-release/

Enjoy with Kit Kat 4.4.X ........ maybe the end ... ( ??? )

sasank360 · Jun 26, 2014

@Loulou-13

Thanks for reply mate.

I watched S4 Mini official KK update video on S4MiniArchive Youtube channel and the user mentioned randoms reboots, FCs and heating issues when knox-removed KK firmware was flashed. He also added that when he flashed untouched (knoxed) KK firmware everything was fine. That is what bothered me. I am from India as u know and I9195 has no warranty service in India. We do not have LTE either. I just need 3g/2g internet , messaging , phonecalls. As of now I have no issues and hopefully I will have none when I flash KK sometime later.
I already triggered knox :laugh: So any root method is fine to me.

Also I went WTF

when I read this :::
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/06/25...egrate-knox-into-androids-next-major-release/
Cant sammy stop tinkering with android???? Seriously they are spoiling google as well

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Hello. I read flashing knox removed KK update results in many issues. Can this be fixed by a custom kernel?? I mean we have f4ktion kernel for stock JB that fixed the "performance" gov issue, similarly can we have a custom kernel for stock KK that fixes the overheating , freezing and FC issues??Thanks in advance.

Loulou-13 · Jun 26, 2014

FCs are caused with some users who have tried to remove Knox on the new KK ..... but the official untouched firmware is fine ! :good:

...and no kernel for the moment ! no mods ...etc ....( system seems protected ! ) just root and recovery is possible !

Very very sad for the future of android ,yes ...

charliebigpot · Jul 7, 2014

One simple question from a recovering flashoholic:
Why do we keep on flashing, day after day, version after version, constantly between roms that are fairly similar?

rrgrrg · Jul 7, 2014

charliebigpot said:
One simple question from a recovering flashoholic:
Why do we keep on flashing, day after day, version after version, constantly between roms that are fairly similar?

seeking improvment :cyclops: ... if you are using a cyanogenmod-like roms you dont have to update regularly but if you have an unofficial versions then u have to since the unofficial dev doesnt just sync changes but fix bugs (he doesnt have time to upload useless updates\builds) therefore you have to download

Loulou-13 · Jul 8, 2014

rrgrrg said:
seeking improvment :cyclops: ... if you are using a cyanogenmod-like roms you dont have to update regularly but if you have an unofficial versions then u have to since the unofficial dev doesnt just sync changes but fix bugs (he doesnt have time to upload useless updates\builds) therefore you have to download

That's why i "hate" Cyanogenmod now with CM11 ! ..... 10 months for to build a rom ! incredible ! terible !... and still have buggs ! and too many reccuring problems too ...
some people continue to like it because great past reputation , but they periodicaly loose more and more ,for to move of others customs ....and some return to Stock rom .

If people want to be "quiet", and use a "clean" AOSP rom ,best expérience ===> they have have to install OmniRom ( or Paranoid ) ,and it's good !!! :good: the end of story !

If people love customisation ,with the same "clean" experience ===> CarbonRom ! ( great F4K's work ! ) :good: ...or very "much" more with the famous C-Rom V7.1 ( the "perfect" rom !!!! ) :good:
end of story again !

And they can test the new "Dirty Unicorns too !!!

=> it's my own vision ,opinion about "Android custom world" ,but there are people who think different ...

Darktitor · Jul 8, 2014

CyanogenMod are doing great job for me ! Always trying new thing that the user could find usefull and never forget that without CM a lot of custom firmware will not be here actually. For the moment my favorite is AOSPA, because their team follow Googl's guideline with some very usefull features like Hover and Peek

Loulou-13 · Jul 8, 2014

i don't say that CM is "bad" ... but their new politic and way are very "strange"

lots of dev teams work directly about AOSP google sources and add theys own features (they develop themselves theirs features ) more and more devs are leaving from CM too ...

Razvan · Jul 8, 2014

Don't forget that almost (99%) ALL CUSTOM ROMs are cyanogemod based. :cyclops:

Loulou-13 · Jul 8, 2014

maybe true in the past ...but for now it's wrong . Lots of teams have took their independance ...
It's not "the center of the world" too ...

XxM4tzexX · Jul 8, 2014

Sorry for all Brazilian here but Germany is ruling

nunein · Jul 9, 2014

Yes, unbelievable.
Unf**kingfassbar

Razvan · Jul 9, 2014

XxM4tzexX said:
Sorry for all Brazilian here but Germany is ruling

nunein said:
Yes, unbelievable.
Unf**kingfassbar

Joke ...

Messi to Muller: We have a tough game tonight against Holland.
Muller to Messi: Don't tell me about that, we play with them on Sunday.

:laugh:

Ryu--X · Jul 18, 2014

BLN controls

wha the hell ? no led notification ? only for U.S and canada ? i don't get it .....

Panos97 · Jul 18, 2014

Battery life

Hi :laugh: Something slightly off-topic

For those who say that battery life is horrible on the S4 Mini I9195 on Jelly Bean, I can tell you my phone lasts 4 full days with mild use (2G only cause LTE SUCKS battery, gps off, wifi when needed, facebook, phonecalls, sms, screen on for 3 hours) without charging between :victory: The only power-related apps i've installed are Greenify, Snapdragon BatteryGuru and SetCPU (for underclocking and profiles). Despite that, i also face deepsleep juice drain, but not at an insane degree. ie at night, i turn airplane mode on and it only drains 2-5% only in 8 hours. I'm using the rom from ladislav.heller, based on 4.2.2 and BML1 with BML1 Modem flashed. Only reason i use that rom is because i heard BML1 has pretty decend battery life, and i can confirm it

And that's the only reason i dont flash KK 4.4.2..I heard that other users have terrible battery life

I think i am from the lucky ones lol

sasank360 · Jul 30, 2014

Are the benchmark scores better after jellybean update? I did not run any while on 4.2.2 but from what i read on the internet after kitkat update benchmarks have improved a little bit. So I ran them myself. Although I never consider benchmarks as standard for performance but I suspect samsung did something with kitkat......something they did with s4 and note 3. What do you guys feel??

XxM4tzexX · Aug 3, 2014

I'm not sure if benchmarks are true because of DVFS which u brings you automatically better results.
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2674928

Loulou-13 · Aug 3, 2014

XxM4tzexX said:
I'm not sure if benchmarks are true because of DVFS which u brings you automatically better results.
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2674928

there is a way for disable it afely on ours devises ..(.without installing Xposed ) ?

all this thread "seem" to say that if this DVFS is disabled : with "real" bench => more performance & stability ,less baterry consume ???

fburgos · Aug 3, 2014

there is a version of antutu that disables dvfs

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