[Q] S-OFF with firmware upgrade?

sirjohn78 · Oct 24, 2011

Dear friends,

Something interesting happened to my Cha Cha and I wanted to tell you about it.

I bought it about two months ago from Istanbul, Turkey where I live. But it was a product produced for Romania. (There were no sale from the legal distributor at the time) It was an unopened box and I opened it for the first time.

I bought it as my secondary phone. (Primary is a sgsII)

The first thing I did with the cha cha was to try to root it to be able to use "Market Enabler" (Paid market apps cant be used here). And after some XDA research I realized that my phone was S-ON (I'm 100% sure) and I had to find an XTC Clip to be able to root it. I search for it at the local GSM services etc. but could not find.

The firmware was 1.12.xxxx

A couple of weeks later, I found the battery life insufficent and search for a newer firmware thinking they could be manage to extend the battery life.

I found an Asian firmware RUU_Chacha_hTC_Asia_TW_1.25.709.1_Radio_47.17.35.3033H_7.48.35.14_2_release_199798_signed.exe and installed it.

Then a couple of days later I found a European firmware RUU_Chacha_HTC_Europe_1.33.401.1_Radio_47.17.35.3033H_7.48.35.14_2_release_204385_signed.exe and installed it to get rid of the Asian apps that I dont need.

Then today, I learnt that 1.52 OTA update is ready at XDA. To install it I turn the phone in recovery mode and I saw that it was S-OFF .

I have no idea how it happened but I wrote everything I did above.

By the way , After seeing it S-OFF, I've rooted the Cha Cha using the excellent tutorial prepared at XDA. And I installed Market Enabler.....

How could it be?

Thank you....

ajeevlal · Oct 25, 2011

looks teasing!!!! but can anyone try this? i will give it a try this weekend

schölli · Oct 25, 2011

can this be confirmed? maybe the OTA version has a unlocked bootloader...

Alex C. · Oct 25, 2011

S-ON users could give it a try and post their results. Would be nice to know.

sirjohn78 · Oct 25, 2011

I am also very curious about it.

If one of the S-On Cha Cha owners can try installing those firmwares I will be happy too.

Thanks...

ajeevlal · Oct 25, 2011

can you give us the source links where u have downloaded? may be it has some specific patch!!! i wil give it a try

also how did u installed the firmware thru gold card? or directly running the .exe file?

i tried installing RUU_Chacha_hTC_Asia_TW_1.25.709.1_Radio_47.17.35.3 033H_7.48.35.14_2_release_199798_signed.exe and it failed since i am already in 1.33. it wont allow me to flash lower version :-(

meloos · Oct 25, 2011

ajeevlal said:
can you give us the source links where u have downloaded? may be it has some specific patch!!! i wil give it a try

+1

i would also try it, with my Polish Orange S-ON ChaCha

Alex C. · Oct 25, 2011

The European RUU's you can find in the guide in my signature.

meloos · Oct 25, 2011

OK, I've got the collection of files.
Now... to be clear and not to mess everything.
My ChaCha is S-ON unbranded stock one with 1.18 bought in polish Orange
I have both windows & linux so what is the best method to apply updates mentioned above? Thank you in advance.

sirjohn78 · Oct 25, 2011

I used only the RUU exe files. No patch or something like that.

I was on 1.12xxxx firmware. Unfortunately I don't remember the exact code.

I used the ruu exe files I mentioned above. But I can't find the download links.
I wrote the exact file names. I think all the downlads with the same name will be the same files.

My phone was unbranded at the begining obviously.

I am very sorry that I can't provide more info.

Alex C. · Oct 25, 2011

All the Europe RUU's that were posted on this forum section (HTC ChaCha) are up there on the http server I provided in the guide.

Unfortunately I was not inspired enough to upload other regions. (Downloading from Asia to my Romanian hosting would take a lot anyways).

ajeevlal · Oct 25, 2011

sirjohn78 said:
I used only the RUU exe files. No patch or something like that.

I was on 1.12xxxx firmware. Unfortunately I don't remember the exact code.

I used the ruu exe files I mentioned above. But I can't find the download links.
I wrote the exact file names. I think all the downlads with the same name will be the same files.

My phone was unbranded at the begining obviously.

I am very sorry that I can't provide more info.

i believe you cannot update ur firmware thru ruu.exe when your phone is s-on, you have to use gold card to get the update, since you have updated using ruu.exe i doubt it might already s-off before the update.

dapaua · Oct 25, 2011

meloos said:
OK, I've got the collection of files.
Now... to be clear and not to mess everything.
My ChaCha is S-ON unbranded stock one with 1.18 bought in polish Orange
I have both windows & linux so what is the best method to apply updates mentioned above? Thank you in advance.

Here is an explanation:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=17951272&postcount=44
But to summarize, under windows:
1-Create a gold card. A gold card is a modified SD card that allows the flashing of an unbrabded signed rom to a branded phone.
2-Connect the phone, run the ruu exe file, it will fail but there will be a c:/ruu_log folder with some text files. Open the most recent one and search for "Temp". Yu'll find something like:
<T065713><DEBUG><CMD>fastboot -s HT16SV409359 flash zip C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Temp\{3C3FDAAB-88EB-4E41-BE57-66DBAFFA8970}\{50F2F878-636A-496F-A7CB-544C067E0C4B}\rom.zip</CMD>

Find this rom.zip.
3- Copy the rom.zip file to your SD card, name it PH06IMG.zip.
4- In your chacha, in settings-> energy disable fastboot.
5-Turn off your phone. Press "Vol-" + Power for 5 seconds. It will boot into bootloader and it will ask you to upgrade. Follow the instructions, you may need to do it more than once if it needs to update the bootloader.
6- When done, delete PH06IMG.zip from the SD.

WARNING: You will lose all your settings.
Please correct me if I made errors.

sirjohn78 · Oct 26, 2011

ajeevlal said:
i believe you cannot update ur firmware thru ruu.exe when your phone is s-on, you have to use gold card to get the update, since you have updated using ruu.exe i doubt it might already s-off before the update.

Are you sure about it?
Is the gold card a must for updating with ruu .exe for unbranded phone ?

As far as I know it is needed if you want to upgrade the firmware of an branded phone. (Vodafone, orange etc.)

Alex C. · Oct 26, 2011

sirjohn78 said:
...
Then a couple of days later I found a European firmware RUU_Chacha_HTC_Europe_1.33.401.1_Radio_47.17.35.3033H_7.48.35.14_2_release_204385_signed.exe and installed it to get rid of the Asian apps that I dont need.

Then today, I learnt that 1.52 OTA update is ready at XDA. To install it I turn the phone in recovery mode and I saw that it was S-OFF .
....

The excerpt above states that S-OFF has been acquired from the 1.33 sw version. Do we have users with a lower version around? 1.18/1.21/1.22 to give this a try?

ajeevlal · Oct 26, 2011

sirjohn78 said:
Are you sure about it?
Is the gold card a must for updating with ruu .exe for unbranded phone ?

As far as I know it is needed if you want to upgrade the firmware of an branded phone. (Vodafone, orange etc.)

i believe so, i have unbranded phone with s-on, it didnt allowed me to update 1.33, so i used gold card to update!
now since i am already in 1.33 i was not able to go back to 1.25 and then back to 1.33 :-( as my device is s-on, evn with gold card since it will not allow me to downgrade....

---------- Post added at 12:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:59 AM ----------

Alex C. said:
The excerpt above states that S-OFF has been acquired from the 1.33 sw version. Do we have users with a lower version around? 1.18/1.21/1.22 to give this a try?

i had 1.18 and upgraded to 1.33 some time back and it didnt give me s-off

abraham89 · Oct 26, 2011

ajeevlal said:
i believe so, i have unbranded phone with s-on, it didnt allowed me to update 1.33, so i used gold card to update!
now since i am already in 1.33 i was not able to go back to 1.25 and then back to 1.33 :-( as my device is s-on, evn with gold card since it will not allow me to downgrade....

---------- Post added at 12:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:59 AM ----------

i had 1.18 and upgraded to 1.33 some time back and it didnt give me s-off

exactly same process here..
i neva gt SOFF

ajeevlal · Oct 26, 2011

removed as i updated my previous post

---------- Post added at 01:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:31 PM ----------

ajeevlal said:
can you give us the source links where u have downloaded? may be it has some specific patch!!! i wil give it a try

also how did u installed the firmware thru gold card? or directly running the .exe file?

i tried installing RUU_Chacha_hTC_Asia_TW_1.25.709.1_Radio_47.17.35.3 033H_7.48.35.14_2_release_199798_signed.exe and it failed since i am already in 1.33. it wont allow me to flash lower version :-(

after long search, i found a way to downgrade my phone from hboot 1.05 to 1.04 and install RUU_Chacha_hTC_Asia_TW_1.25.709.1_Radio_47.17.35.3 033H_7.48.35.14_2_release_199798_signed.exe and found no s-off.

i was already using RUU_Chacha_HTC_Europe_1.33.401.1_Radio_47.17.35.30 33H_7.48.35.14_2_release_204385_signed.exe and there was no s-off either.

sirjohn78 - did u do anything other than flashing these roms? if you have any rom backups in ur pc, then please upload

ajeevlal · Oct 27, 2011

meloos said:
+1

i would also try it, with my Polish Orange S-ON ChaCha

did you tried it? any updates?

hhhhugi · Nov 6, 2011

Tester

Hello, I own HTC Chacha with Asian firmware 1.21.

I upgraded to 1.25.xx TW from 1.21.xx like mentioned above and it's still S-ON. After that i upgraded to 1.33 Euro and S-ON is still there. I'm not sure Euro OTA 1.52 will fix S-ON.

Seems 1.52 doesn't fix dialer bug, its quite disappointing. Anyways thank you XDA members.

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