Kernel source still not available!

kahuna0k · May 3, 2010

HTC has just released the kernel source for the Legend and the Incredible, but they have skipped the Desire ...

http://developer.htc.com/

seems a bit strange to me. Any ideas about the suitable of the Legend vs the Desire?

Regards

foxmeister · May 3, 2010

I'm not seeing any new posts on http://developer.htc.com.

I guess if something for the Incredible and Legend was posted, it was probably by mistake and has subsequently been removed.

Regards,

Dave

Kali- · May 3, 2010

are u behind a proxy?

Droid Incredible by HTC(Verizon) Kernel Source Code 56.0 MB 2010/04/30
Droid Eris MR by HTC (Verizon) Kernel Source Code 56.3 MB 2010/04/30
HTC Legend Kernel Source Code 56.0 MB 2010/04/30

refresh yout page

bcmobile · May 3, 2010

foxmeister said:
I'm not seeing any new posts on http://developer.htc.com.

I guess if something for the Incredible and Legend was posted, it was probably by mistake and has subsequently been removed.

Regards,

Dave

They're back up now but no desire source

JupiterDroid · May 3, 2010

they was not there a minute ago, they are there now

This is good news, as i cant see them, releasing everything but the Desire's Kernel, It means we will see a Kernel at some point

))))

foxmeister · May 3, 2010

I think that HTC's website must be geo-locating by IP. If I go to their site with a US IP, I can see the additional downloads, but they are still unavailable via my UK IP address.

Regards,

Dave

deovferreira · May 3, 2010

The kernel might be very similar to the incredible one.

JupiterDroid · May 3, 2010

im in the uk and i can see it ok

alpinux · May 3, 2010

Something is strange, because the link for the Droid Eris MR by HTC (Verizon) is http://member.america.htc.com/download/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/desirec_2.6.29_8a03cb9a.tar.bz2.

So why do they call ist ....desirec_2.6.29_8a03cb9a.tar.bz2?

deovferreira · May 3, 2010

allla said:
Something is strange, because the link for the Droid Eris MR by HTC (Verizon) is http://member.america.htc.com/download/RomCode/Source_and_Binaries/desirec_2.6.29_8a03cb9a.tar.bz2.

So why do they call ist ....desirec_2.6.29_8a03cb9a.tar.bz2?

It's not strange, the HTC Desire is codenamed Bravo. The Droid Eris is codenamed Desire. Confusing, but not strange.

alpinux · May 3, 2010

deovferreira said:
It's not strange, the HTC Desire is codenamed Bravo. The Droid Eris is codenamed Desire. Confusing, but not strange.

You're right - not confusion, but strange ;-)

edzilla · May 3, 2010

JupiterDroid said:
they was not there a minute ago, they are there now

This is good news, as i cant see them, releasing everything but the Desire's Kernel, It means we will see a Kernel at some point))))

They don't really have a choice, actually, they do have to follow the GPL under which it is licensed.
In fact, if they DID really follow that license correctly, we should have received the sources (or at least a link to the sources) with the device.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License#Terms_and_conditions

The fourth section for version 2 of the license and the seventh section of version 3 require that programs distributed as pre-compiled binaries are accompanied by a copy of the source code, a written offer to distribute the source code via the same mechanism as the pre-compiled binary or the written offer to obtain the source code that you got when you received the pre-compiled binary under the GPL.

kewell79 · May 3, 2010

At http://developer.htc.com/ they have released the kernel for Incredible, Droid ERIS and the Legend, after asking HTC about Desire version they have answered with:

QUOTE
Dear Mr.Gomez Thank you for contacting HTC. Kindly note that as Desire and Legend are both running Android 2.1 "Eclair". Besides that both of them are having almost same specefications, that's why we released only one of them. If you have any other inquiries, don’t hesitate to contact us again. Please note that you can contact us via support line. For further details, please go to http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx , Thank you so much for using HTC products. Respect & Regards, HTC Team http://www.htc.com

So I suppose that we can consider http://member.america.htc.com/download/Rom...3be9c9c.tar.bz2 to be the final kernel for the HTC Desire. :-D

Regards

edzilla · May 3, 2010

The same specifications? oO
They don't even have the same CPU, let alone the same chipsets...

kahuna0k · May 3, 2010

I have just posted this to MoDaCo :-D They answer me with this "they have the same specifications" so I suppose that the kernel is the same for both, I mean they use the same source with different configuration (depending on the chipset, cpu, etc).

Regards

kahuna0k · May 3, 2010

The differences from the base (standard linux) 2.6.29 kernel:

Legend: 914 files more than 1.4M bzipped diff file
Incredible: 941 files more than 1.4M bzipped diff file

The differences between both kernels are less than that, 252 files and about 250K bzipped diff file.

Regards,

MacCarron · May 3, 2010

Mmmh sounds kinda weird..one would think that if for some reason the kernels of Legend and Desire were somehow the same, HTC would have added at least a tiny note on their developer page specifying so...

Kali- · May 3, 2010

Legend same specifications as Desire? strange
for what I know Incredible is very close to nexus one and desire

coolbho3000 · May 3, 2010

kewell79 said:
At http://developer.htc.com/ they have released the kernel for Incredible, Droid ERIS and the Legend, after asking HTC about Desire version they have answered with:

QUOTE
Dear Mr.Gomez Thank you for contacting HTC. Kindly note that as Desire and Legend are both running Android 2.1 "Eclair". Besides that both of them are having almost same specefications, that's why we released only one of them. If you have any other inquiries, don’t hesitate to contact us again. Please note that you can contact us via support line. For further details, please go to http://www.htc.com/europe/CA_Hotline.aspx , Thank you so much for using HTC products. Respect & Regards, HTC Team http://www.htc.com

So I suppose that we can consider http://member.america.htc.com/download/Rom...3be9c9c.tar.bz2 to be the final kernel for the HTC Desire. :-D

Regards

That is unacceptable and a gross violation of the GPL.

HTC did not release the kernel source because the Desire is rootable and having the kernel would allow us to override their pathetic security (which is, by the way, cracked already).

The bravo board files are NOT in there!

MightySashiman · May 3, 2010

Fully Agreed. So what's the next play ?

Warn GPL-Violations ? FTF ? Google ? (do Google even care ?)

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