Odexed means that system files and apps are split into two pieces and kept in different places on the phone. This is done to speed things up a bit.
Should I be concerned about slowing down my stock odexed JB ROM, if I flash a de-odexed version of it? The above statement took me by surprise because I thought one of the main advantages of flashing a new ROM was to speed it up. I saw that quote in the "odexed vs de-odexed" definition in the OP.
It's not a very noticeable difference, I wouldn't worry about it. Just be aware of it for theming purposes.
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One more question.
Make sure that you use the version of the mod that is for your software version number (UCLEM or UCLG1 see beginning of rooting guide to figure out which one you are on).
Mine says UCDLK3. Am I in the wrong thread or something?
Thanks for the great post!
I do have a few n00b questions:
1. I rooted my gs3 and flashed another rom before doing a backup. Am I screwed if something goes wrong? Would going back to stock and doing a backup help (if there is something to worry about)?
You are not screwed. you can always go back through Odin. I would suggest making a backup before flashing your next rom though just in case.
2. Are there more advantages to using TiB or Carbon to backup apps (& app data) compared to re-installing apps from the Play store?
The advantage is it's faster to restore multiple apps at once, also titanium backup saves app data so things like game progress, login info, etc are restored too.
3. Why do some roms have gapps? Couldn't I just download them from the Play store?
Some roms like CM are not allowed to include gapps so you have to flash them separately. The play store is a gapp so you won't be able to use it to download if it's not there.
Thanks
Thank you! I had thought as much with the gapps.
Just to continue the learning on my part: I don't think I'm backing up or wiping correctly. It seems that I'm getting nested files in /data (some of them start with 0) The same file structure is nested a few times. Does this mean I did a dirty flash or is this normal? (I did clean it up and copy back onto SD from computer, probably the stupidest way to do it...)
As for a backup, from what I've read it seems that CWM does (or can do) the ROM backup while TB handles the apps right? TB can also do the ROM?
I'm guessing that wiping (when flashing a new ROM) doesn't erase any backups stored on the SD (or can that accidentally be erased too?)
I think that once I fully understand the backing up process, I'll be much better off. (I've been reinstalling apps myself after flashing through the play store...eh, I know its stupid)
Curious:
If i flash a new ROM, can i revert to the older ROM without having to reinstall all my apps and adjust all my settings? I logged into google and it automatically downloaded all my old apps even the ones i didnt want. Now i have a good minimal set up based on my usage and have made a backup with titanium pro, i also plan to do a backup with CMRecovery. If i dont like the ROM i try out, what is the best/easiest/quickest way to go back to the previous ROM as it was before flashing the new one?
Thanks again
Just do a nandroid backup from your recovery, then you can always go back and restore exactly what was there before
thanks for the reply. so if i do a nandroid backup, do i also need to do a titanium backup as well? are they different or do they complement each other. i would prefer to be thorough.
Could you provide a link to where you learned to do it?
I have rooted my phone but stopped short of installing a ROM simply because there were just pages of pages of conversation to wade through before actual instructions could be found.
I am looking for something to help manage battery power, and if possible, allow me to move my apps to an external drive.
Thanks
This is my first Android device... [/QUOTE ]
Welcome to freedom
Rooting, in and of itself, will not prevent any OTA. What will prevent it from installing is using a custom recovery (CWM or TWRP). You will still get it pushed to you, and it will still try to install, but the custom recovery will prevent it from installing. Keep in mind, that after that upgrade gets pushed, you will, most likely, lose root until the devs cracked it again.
Yes, seen this already twice when AT&T tried to shove an update up my interface port.
You can disable those apps in your App Manager and don't even need root. Or you can root and use Titanium Backup to freeze those apps without uninstalling them, if you want. Several options for you.
The question is: which ones are safe to debloat?
Titanium Backup can back up all apps, and user data associated with those apps, on the phone.
Rom Manager does what's called a Nandroid backup, which, with it's default settings, creates, essentially, an "image" of your phone (like a hard drive image, to use a pc analogy). It's a byte by byte copy of your entire phone.
Once you flash a new rom, you can use Titanium Backup to do a restore of all your apps and user data to get your new rom up and running. Restoring a Nandroid backup wipes everything that is there and writes back what you had originally restored.
Hope this helps!
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Best damned description of the process yet. Only post #96, too!! Of course, I've waded thru thousands looking for concise info just like this.
Now to know what to back up and what to eliminate...
TSRH!!!
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TSRH!!!
It's insanely difficult to wade thru the thousands of threads and comments, when when using as specific a search term as possible, because there is so much back-and-forth between devs and pro users, we n00bs just get lost. :crying:
Your work has been so helpful, I wish I could drop more than 8 "thanks" per day (what is up with that??); as has the work of the others.
It'd just be nice if we could do something similar to your OP that would make life easier for the noobs--perhaps, if they had more info and clearer descriptions and instructions, we wouldn't both y'all with our inanities...
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Yes, seen this already twice when AT&T tried to shove an update up my interface port.
The question is: which ones are safe to debloat?
Best damned description of the process yet. Only post #96, too!! Of course, I've waded thru thousands looking for concise info just like this.
Now to know what to back up and what to eliminate...
Stumbled across #484 here a few days ago http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2526698&page=49 Works!
Stumbled across #484 here a few days ago http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2526698&page=49 Works!
Hi am new here!
Oh, I am certain some people don't want to hear questions from noobies when there is so much information already available to them.
Understand, I am a long-time iPhone user contemplating making the switch to a Galaxy S3. Doing so is very dependent on the ease of rooting.
With the iPhone, it took a single file (and under 5 minutes) to jailbreak the phone.
Looking over these instructions for the first time, totally not knowing the process of rooting, makes it seem quite difficult with many chances of something going wrong.
To top it off, I have a Mac. There are videos showing how to root the AT&T Galaxy S3, but the only ones that assure not tripping the flash counter (whatever that means) seem to be tied to rooting via Windows.
I am almost afraid to ask a question here because, yes, everything is spelled out in the first post. Hopefully someone will take pity on me and help me better understand the rooting process.
1. Are the instructions in the first post still applicable to the version of the Galaxy S3 I would be buying from AT&T this week?
2. Are there fool-proof instructions anywhere for someone on a Mac, which would also prevent any tripping of the flash counter?
3. Shouldn't the phone be backed up first before rooting? If something goes wrong, is there always a way of restoring to factory default? I want to make certain there is always a safeguard in place.
Really, for someone totally new to the Android way of doing things, this looks awfully complicated. I am certain, however, with a little help I can do this on my own. I have jailbroken my iPhone many times.
Good to be here.
vvelvetelvis,
That is exactly the kind of help I was looking for.
Going to try this today and hope I don't brick my phone.
Here is the big question...
With Jellybean around the corner, is it a good idea to do this now?
Will I be able to upgrade to Jellybean with a phone that has a ROM?
If not, are there instructions how to restore the phone to factory settings prior to installing a new OS update?
After spending a couple days as a new convert from iphone (of 4 years) to the GS3 on AT&T, I figured out how to Root and load CM10.
What I am still confused about is how to load new nightlies. AS I understand, CM10 is not in final release, and they are constantly fixing issues in the rom with nightly releases.
My question is how do I load new nightly ROMs. I believe if I use the same method when i first flashed the Rom, I'd lose everything and have to reload everything on my S3. That seems like a labor intensive process. I have downloaded Titanium Backup Pro, but for some reason I can t see the app in my drawer (thats another issue)
same question here. i believe rom manager pro will let you do this but im not sure, so, i will wait for someone to answer this.