Galaxy Note: ATT vs International - review

ekerbuddyeker · Feb 18, 2012

Video intensive apps are definitely worse on this device than the international. Some video is so choppy. Loading Google earth is nearly twice as fast on the international. I'm very disappointed by the poor graphics performance.

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Orange_furball · Feb 18, 2012

2GB???????

You do understand why the 2gb can aggravate people. I get mad at apple because on my (soon to be gone) iPhone, the storage is 28gb instead of 32gb. That's 80% of the advertised storage. Now, for the note, 2gb is only 12%. That is insane. I don't care how many apps that can hold. I have 3gb of music alone. Also, i am throwing all of my money into the note so an sd card isn't an option. I can afford a 2-4gb one, but thats it. and im not going to buy a small one now when i can wait a little while and buy a 32gb one. This is a complete turnoff. If only they didn't pack so many other awesome features or i might not have gotten this.

jpeg42 · Feb 18, 2012

I am confused

techoin · Feb 18, 2012

ekerbuddyeker said:
Video intensive apps are definitely worse on this device than the international. Some video is so choppy. Loading Google earth is nearly twice as fast on the international. I'm very disappointed by the poor graphics performance.

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this makes me think should I sell my AT&T version and get international version..I am yet to open mine..and dont stay in LTE coverage area

mikegehl · Feb 18, 2012

Orange_furball said:
2GB???????

You do understand why the 2gb can aggravate people. I get mad at apple because on my (soon to be gone) iPhone, the storage is 28gb instead of 32gb. That's 80% of the advertised storage. Now, for the note, 2gb is only 12%. That is insane. I don't care how many apps that can hold. I have 3gb of music alone. Also, i am throwing all of my money into the note so an sd card isn't an option. I can afford a 2-4gb one, but thats it. and im not going to buy a small one now when i can wait a little while and buy a 32gb one. This is a complete turnoff. If only they didn't pack so many other awesome features or i might not have gotten this.

Take a couple breaths.

Android has a couple GB system storage into which you can install apps. Then there's another 14 GB or so internal memory for app data and media. None of that includes an external microsd card.

planoman · Feb 18, 2012

Orange_furball said:
2GB???????

You do understand why the 2gb can aggravate people. I get mad at apple because on my (soon to be gone) iPhone, the storage is 28gb instead of 32gb. That's 80% of the advertised storage. Now, for the note, 2gb is only 12%. That is insane. I don't care how many apps that can hold. I have 3gb of music alone. Also, i am throwing all of my money into the note so an sd card isn't an option. I can afford a 2-4gb one, but that's it. and im not going to buy a small one now when i can wait a little while and buy a 32gb one. This is a complete turnoff. If only they didn't pack so many other awesome features or i might not have gotten this.

Ok since you came from a iphone I will try to help. The GNote has 16GB of internal memory. Roughly 2 GB of that is dedicated for apps if you need it. The other is 14GB is for internal storage similar to the iphone. Once formatted and all it is less than 14 but it is clearly a lot of space.

2 GB is a ton of space for apps. I probably have 60 or so apps on my GNote and it is about 500MB of my 2 GB used up or about 25%. I have almost nothing in my other phone memory because I have all of my music, pictures etc on a 16GB micro SD card. (just bought a 32GB for when I will need it). You can also move many apps to an SD card if you every have the need. I have not had to do that since I only use 25% of my dedicated app space.

You do not need to have an micro SD card, you can save everything to your internal USB storage. You can set your camera to save pictures, video to either phone memory or SD card.

I do not want you to be upset and think you need to buy a micro SD card right now because you do not. You have plenty of space on your phone for all of your music and apps! If you every decide to buy a micro SD card you can buy any size up to 64GB and it will expand your GNote's memory by that much above the 16GB internal that the phone already has.

Have fun with your GNote!

ekerbuddyeker · Feb 18, 2012

techoin said:
this makes me think should I sell my AT&T version and get international version..I am yet to open mine..and dont stay in LTE coverage area

Well I'm back on my international for now but will probably swap bac k and forth for a few days before finally deciding what to do

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Orange_furball · Feb 18, 2012

planoman said:
Ok since you came from a iphone I will try to help. The GNote has 16GB of internal memory. Roughly 2 GB of that is dedicated for apps if you need it. The other is 14GB is for internal storage similar to the iphone. Once formatted and all it is less than 14 but it is clearly a lot of space.

2 GB is a ton of space for apps. I probably have 60 or so apps on my GNote and it is about 500MB of my 2 GB used up or about 25%. I have almost nothing in my other phone memory because I have all of my music, pictures etc on a 16GB micro SD card. (just bought a 32GB for when I will need it). You can also move many apps to an SD card if you every have the need. I have not had to do that since I only use 25% of my dedicated app space.

You do not need to have an micro SD card, you can save everything to your internal USB storage. You can set your camera to save pictures, video to either phone memory or SD card.

I do not want you to be upset and think you need to buy a micro SD card right now because you do not. You have plenty of space on your phone for all of your music and apps! If you every decide to buy a micro SD card you can buy any size up to 64GB and it will expand your GNote's memory by that much above the 16GB internal that the phone already has.

Have fun with your GNote!

ohh ok that makes sense. My only experience with android was my Aria for about 2 weeks. Didn't have much of anything on there.

And 64gb? wow! that's a huge amount of space. ill have to look into that for the future. Thanks!

Dkmack · Feb 18, 2012

Can you say just released you cant have your cake and eat it to - intern version or us - even Intern version had some updates to get things smooth - which is why I waited for all releases to make a decision - but lte speed still makes me want US version regardless.

Nothing like 1st day haters

with stuff reviewers haven't even mentioned and apple fanboys can leave now and go back into your corner and cry because the note still kills the iphone.

OMG buy a frickin card I mean really how much music are you really gonna listen to or apps do you need and call it a day or use your damn computer - its a phone not a replacement to your life

I'm sure when roms get released or updates get released for the att version things will get better and if they don't - just call yourself a guinea pig / early adopter for the rest of us, and we thank you for helping the rest of us who had the mind to wait and see how things went

before making a decision.

Am I ranting - lol

jessejames111981 · Feb 18, 2012

Orange_furball said:
2GB???????

You do understand why the 2gb can aggravate people. I get mad at apple because on my (soon to be gone) iPhone, the storage is 28gb instead of 32gb. That's 80% of the advertised storage. Now, for the note, 2gb is only 12%. That is insane. I don't care how many apps that can hold. I have 3gb of music alone. Also, i am throwing all of my money into the note so an sd card isn't an option. I can afford a 2-4gb one, but thats it. and im not going to buy a small one now when i can wait a little while and buy a 32gb one. This is a complete turnoff. If only they didn't pack so many other awesome features or i might not have gotten this.

the system needs its own app storage and 2gb is a lot. and you have the option to put it on your internal storage which isn't even needed but its there

and your iphone advertises and does provide 32gb nothing ever said you have access to all that. My external HD advertised at 3TB but i have access to 2.72gb. the storage needs that 280gb to itself to store information to help it communicate properly and efficiently. and the % is closer to 90% of advertised storage is yours

NR017 · Feb 18, 2012

I'm a little disappointed with the device. I've been messing with it to make sure its not me but for f sake. They destroyed this phone. It shows major lags and scrolling is not as smooth.

jpeg42 · Feb 18, 2012

I am coming from a Captivate, and didn't have an international Note, but this phone is smoking fast to me. A little scroll lag?? You really don't think the xda gurus will fix that and more in no time?? Enough with the *****ing

PoisonWolf · Feb 18, 2012

jpeg42 said:
I am coming from a Captivate, and didn't have an international Note, but this phone is smoking fast to me. A little scroll lag?? You really don't think the xda gurus will fix that and more in no time?? Enough with the *****ing

Lawl, you have not used an International Note have you?

Maroon Mushroom · Feb 18, 2012

PoisonWolf said:
Lawl, you have not used an International Note have you?

I have owned the International and yes, the AT&T version does seem faster for a majority of the things I do on it. Haven't tried out emulators or anything yet. My personal device still isn't in

teiglin · Feb 18, 2012

jessejames111981 said:
the system needs its own app storage and 2gb is a lot. and you have the option to put it on your internal storage which isn't even needed but its there

and your iphone advertises and does provide 32gb nothing ever said you have access to all that. My external HD advertised at 3TB but i have access to 2.72gb. the storage needs that 280gb to itself to store information to help it communicate properly and efficiently. and the % is closer to 90% of advertised storage is yours

You're conflating a couple of issues here. When you're talking about your 3TB hard drive, the issue is that it is three trillion bytes, or 3TB. To be precise, your computer reports its size in "binary" or multiples of 1024 bytes, so one TiB (binary terabyte or tebibyte) is actually 1099511627776 (2^40) bytes, and one GiB (binary gigabyte or gibibyte) is actually 1073741824 (2^30) bytes. Where it gets confusing is that if you open up Windows Explorer or whatever and ask it for your drive capacity, it is reporting to you that you have 2.728 TiB of space, but it incorrectly displays that as 2.728 TB. You have the same issue with SD cards: my 32GB SD card shows in my android system properties as 29.81GB, but what it means is 29.81GiB.

The second issue is that your Note has 16GB of storage (probably NOT GiB). Of that, some 2GB is partitioned for the system and another 2GB is set aside for apps/data, leaving you with about 12GB of space in /sdcard for whatever you want. The iPhone has this issue too.

As other people have said, 2GB is an absurdly large app partition. I can't imagine filling that up. And as for the 12GB user-accessible data, if you were really expecting 16GB and that is a problem for you, then go buy a 64GB microSDXC card or a stack of 32GB microSDHC cards and be glad you didn't pay $200 for 48GB of storage like you would have with an iPhone.

Edit: I feel like I should weigh in on the processor issue too. I haven't felt that the Crapdragon has been a huge bottleneck for my phone. It's nowhere near as smooth as my Exynos GS2, but the latter is rooted and running a custom kernel with tweaked settings to my liking. I'm sure once people have decent ROMs and kernels running then the Note will be perfectly usable.

fuzzled · Feb 18, 2012

I've received both the international as well as the AT&T version. I will try to swap out the screens tomorrow as I prefer the 4 buttons on the US version over the single button on the international GN. AT&T does not provide LTE in Denver and has no plans for roll-out anytime soon, hence the main reason to keep the AT&T version is invalid for me.

That being said here are some benchmarks I've ran on both devices. You can see that on Quadrant that the International Galaxy Note (IGN) is better in all criteria except for CPU, given the qualcomm is clocked at a higher speed in the US version.

I used NenaMark2 for graphics rendering and the IGN still comes out on top.

If anyone has any other questions please feel free to ask. The IGN does feel slightly snappier than the AT&T version. However I am not sure if that is due to innate software differences or hardware, even though Engadget did say the IGN is the better phone overall.

ekerbuddyeker · Feb 18, 2012

fuzzled said:
I've received both the international as well as the AT&T version. I will try to swap out the screens tomorrow as I prefer the 4 buttons on the US version over the single button on the international GN. AT&T does not provide LTE in Denver and has no plans for roll-out anytime soon, hence the main reason to keep the AT&T version is invalid for me.

That being said here are some benchmarks I've ran on both devices. You can see that on Quadrant that the International Galaxy Note (IGN) is better in all criteria except for CPU, given the qualcomm is clocked at a higher speed in the US version.

I used NenaMark2 for graphics rendering and the IGN still comes out on top.

If anyone has any other questions please feel free to ask. The IGN does feel slightly snappier than the AT&T version. However I am not sure if that is due to innate software differences or hardware, even though Engadget did say the IGN is the better phone overall.

Both of mine cone out slower but I have loaded over 100apps which is a real life scenario for me. Cab you trust out video side by side, something 1080 and tell me if you dlfind the at&t one significantly worse. I want to go forward with the LTE device but not based on the current video perfomance (I watch a lot of video). Thanks

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Maroon Mushroom · Feb 18, 2012

*patiently waits for gpu overclocking"

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Buffon00 · Feb 18, 2012

I got the att version although I wont get it until next week because I live in Spain. I'm moving back to Miami in a couple of months and taught that maybe the US version would be a better choice due to the fact that I can get it subsidized and its made for that network. My original idea was to unlock it and use it here until I get state side and then use it in the network with LTE. This is where my doubts come in.
1. Miami currently does not have LTE. Is there a place where I can see the scheduled roll out of LTE in the USA?
2. Based on the reviews here, does the IGN work as well with ATT as the i717?
3. Is there any video available to see them both working side by side on ATT network to make my choice? (I can cancel the line and purchase one here ) . Im getting mixed reviews and im wondering how different both phones fair for regular use and of course some video etc.)

Thanks in advance for the help.

Earthdog · Feb 18, 2012

Lag

I love the device however I must say the Lag compared to my SkyRocket is terrible.

Example:
1. Phone ring swipe to answer 2 second delay to change screen and answer.
2. Press the End button on a call and average is 2-3 seconds to end the call and close the window.
3. Screen rotation is slow again 2 seconds.

Hopefully we will get a root method to freeze all the BS and then it should scream.

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