HTC ONE X LTE vs HTC ONE X International

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BarryH_GEG

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As you can see, there are other minor differences.

They're minor but it means their two seperate phones; not the same phone with a different SoC. The headphone jack shot means the PCB is different between them. So their cousins, not brother and sister. This also means that while all the functionality may be the same some of what's driving it will be different. Maybe it'll be noticable, maybe it won't.
 
I think HTC is listening ...

They're minor but it means their two seperate phones; not the same phone with a different SoC. The headphone jack shot means the PCB is different between them. So their cousins, not brother and sister. This also means that while all the functionality may be the same some of what's driving it will be different. Maybe it'll be noticable, maybe it won't.

I would have to agree with you. I think its reasonable to assume that HTC monitors these forums, and I think they are actually listening. Perhaps we are lucky with the Rogers (AT&T) ONE X because HTC may have heard of certain issues and corrected them with this release. Who knows?

Peter
 

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I would have to agree with you. I think its reasonable to assume that HTC monitors these forums, and I think they are actually listening. Perhaps we are lucky with the Rogers (AT&T) ONE X because HTC may have heard of certain issues and corrected them with this release. Who knows?

Peter

I think it's way too soon for mid-course corrections. Both phones were in production at the same time.

If you boil down all the chatter on the international forum there's really three issues: 1) yellow vs. white displays, 2) funkiness with what's being displayed, and 3) battery life. Unless the display's different the XL is likely to have number 1. I'm guessing it'll be better at number 3 but that'll be offset (and maybe made worse) by using LTE. Number 2 is really the biggest issue and I'm starting to believe it's related to Teg3.

I've followed the Asus Prime since it launched and it had the same problem where individual devices may or not have experienced display issues; all produced at the same time using the same h/w and s/w. So individual Teg3 chips could be out of spec or something strange is going on with individual chips graphics support. If you guys have none of the same display problems that helps support the theory. And if it is true, both Asus and HTC are innocent of all but deciding to trust Nvidia.
 
Great comments ...

I think it's way too soon for mid-course corrections. Both phones were in production at the same time.

If you boil down all the chatter on the international forum there's really three issues: 1) yellow vs. white displays, 2) funkiness with what's being displayed, and 3) battery life. Unless the display's different the XL is likely to have number 1. I'm guessing it'll be better at number 3 but that'll be offset (and maybe made worse) by using LTE. Number 2 is really the biggest issue and I'm starting to believe it's related to Teg3.

I've followed the Asus Prime since it launched and it had the same problem where individual devices may or not have experienced display issues; all produced at the same time using the same h/w and s/w. So individual Teg3 chips could be out of spec or something strange is going on with individual chips graphics support. If you guys have none of the same display problems that helps support the theory. And if it is true, both Asus and HTC are innocent of all but deciding to trust Nvidia.

I guess I'm lucky concerning the yellow display issue as both units, the Rogers and the International, do not experience this issue. I can also attest to the "funkiness" with the international display. As I mentioned in an earlier post, when I first got the international unit with the stock ROM (even though it was rooted), there were numerous bugs, and the display was one of them.

Peter
 
I think it's way too soon for mid-course corrections. Both phones were in production at the same time.

Sounds logical. It may simply be a case of serendipity. Perhaps the addition of LTE forced HTC to make a small adjustment with the internal space, and the result was a different camera cover.

Peter
 
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I would like to add something concerning LTE. Yes, it applies a great deal to me, but it may help others to decide if they actually need/want LTE.

My home Wifi, which is high speed, provides me with a speed of about 20Mbps download and ONLY 1Mbps upload. This is quite consistent.

As I said in an earlier post, I was visiting my mother this morning, who does not have Internet access. Hey, she doesn't even have a computer. By tethering my Rogers unit through my laptop, which was incredibly easy, I now have super high speed Internet access wherever I go ... as long as there's LTE available, and Rogers is quickly flooding Canada with LTE.

So, in fact, by using my LTE signal, I now have an even faster connection on my PC than if I was at home using my high speed Wifi connection.

My two cents worth.

Peter

In regards to your wifi, my One XL is dropping wifi signal constantly and falling back to 4G, my international One X has no such problems. I have both a 5G router and a netgear 3500L running newest tomato firmware. The phone intermittantly seems to sleep wifi and then reinitialize it... I have tried always on wifi setting to no avail, wondering if you or anyone else with a One XL is experiencing this problem?
 

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Peter, do you think the same cases will be able to fit both phones? I want to order a cheap tpu case for my phone so it's safe until I find something better.
 

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All I know is, there's going to be a tegra 3+ with LTE in this Q3 year with LTE its a rumor so I'm waiting for an official announcement. By the tegra team.

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Well, I looked and looked at both screens while in settings, from many angles, and I can't see any yellow tinge (no, I'm not colour blind). The backgrounds on both screens were extremely white.

Peter

Darn... got my 1X and settings menu looks yellow...

Don't have any other unit to compare to. Will post pics a little later.

Pete... could you kindly take some pics of both your screens using a LCD testing app like display tester?

Thanks
 
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What is a display tester?

Darn... got my 1X and settings menu looks yellow...

Don't have any other unit to compare to. Will post pics a little later.

Pete... could you kindly take some pics of both your screens using a LCD testing app like display tester?

Thanks

Forgive my ignorance, but what is a display tester, and how can I get one ... cheap?

Peter
 
Wifi seems okay so far ...

In regards to your wifi, my One XL is dropping wifi signal constantly and falling back to 4G, my international One X has no such problems. I have both a 5G router and a netgear 3500L running newest tomato firmware. The phone intermittantly seems to sleep wifi and then reinitialize it... I have tried always on wifi setting to no avail, wondering if you or anyone else with a One XL is experiencing this problem?

My Wifi seems okay so far. I had one drop, but that's it. Perhaps it's an issue. I'll have to monitor the situation and let you know.

Peter
 

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Forgive my ignorance, but what is a display tester, and how can I get one ... cheap?

Peter

Hehe...

Just search for Display tester on the market. Then take photos from a physical camera if possible :) Thanks

My phone looks yellow compared to my Desire HD (which is starting to look blue now)...

I'll wait till Monday to make a comparison to my friends Iphone4s.
 

BarryH_GEG

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Darn... got my 1X and settings menu looks yellow...

Don't have any other unit to compare to. Will post pics a little later.

Pete... could you kindly take some pics of both your screens using a LCD testing app like display tester?

Thanks

Yellow...

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http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25017508&postcount=1


Not yellow (mine)...

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http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25024269&postcount=9
 

Hemlocke

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You've mentioned your Galaxy Nexus.. would you dump your Nexus for the XL? Considering everything. Screens, speed, camera, size/shape.. etc. Also figure in Sense 4.0.

Thoughts?

I dumped my GNex for the Note, but the deal fell through and I ended up getting this. Frankly, the GNex is nice and I love AOSP, but the battery life is closer than it should be, the X screen is better, as is the SoC. I prefer the X build, but that is individual preference.

Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
 
Yes, I plan to sell my Galaxy Nexus ...

You've mentioned your Galaxy Nexus.. would you dump your Nexus for the XL? Considering everything. Screens, speed, camera, size/shape.. etc. Also figure in Sense 4.0.

Thoughts?

I think I already made the decision about 1-2 hours after I got the Rogers unit. I knew that quickly that I would not go back to my Galaxy Nexus.

Peter
 
Update on Battery, but only a simple test

As you may recall, I mentioned in an earlier post that I have a profile that sets automatically at 11pm each evening to what is effectively airplane mode. This then automatically changes to my morning profile at 7am each morning.

On my previous phones, mostly HTC, but a few by Samsung (see signature), the battery would drop to anywhere from 95% to 92% during this "airplane mode" period.

With the international ONE X, however, it was still at 100% at 7am each morning. This is probably due to the use of the 5th core, where the phone goes into very deep sleep. However, I can now report that the Rogers unit is equally frugal.

Last night I charged my phone to 100%. I unplugged the phone at exactly 10:59pm, and then allowed it to automatically go into airplane mode at 11pm. I did not touch the phone until 5am this morning. Okay, it's not 7am, but 5am isn't much different when I tell you the results. Now you may be asking why I touched it at 5am. Well, I couldn't sleep, so I got up at 4am and went to work. Then, at exactly 5am, I woke up the phone, and the battery still indicated 100%. I can only assume that it would probably still be 100% at 7am, or maybe 99% at worst.

Regardless, it seems that in sleep mode, both phones use almost zero power.

It's not a technical test by any means, but it's a simple comparison. I will do more battery testing tomorrow when I have much more time to leave both phones with their displays on, and both in virtually the same "situation."

Peter
 
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    As many of you already know, I now have both versions of the HTC ONE X, the international version (released out of Singapore), and the Rogers unit with LTE.

    Although it may still take a day or so, but I plan to use this post to offer my opinion on both devices, and to compare the differences in terms of data speed, wifi performance, battery consumption, and whatever else someone needs to know. If I have time, I will try my best to answer your question.

    Please remember that my company consumes upwards of 70 hours a week of my time, plus the fact that I have an amazing 2-1/2-year-old daughter, who consumes even more of my time … and she can be quite demanding. :) Fortunately, though, I have an incredible wife who puts up with my phone addiction.

    I’ll try and report back on preliminary data this evening.

    Peter

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    SUMMARY OF ALL MY POSTS UP TO THE MORNING OF APRIL 22

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    Rogers is supplying ONLY the white version at this point. There is no indication at this time if they will also carry the grey version.

    ORIGINAL SOFTWARE (ROM)
    ROM (Software Number): 1.73.631.1
    Android Version: 4.0.3
    HTC Sense: 4.0
    HTC SDK API Level: 4.11
    HTC Extension Version: HTCExtension_403_1_GA_4
    Baseband Version: 0.16a.32.09.06_10.81.32.14L
    RIL: Unknown
    Kernel Version: 3.0.8-01111-g188cf26
    Build Number: 1.73.631.1 CL54373 release-keys
    Browser Version: WebKit/534.30

    There are only four system languages: English-Canada, Spanish, French, and Chinese. There is no option for English-US or English-UK.

    Initial impression: Fantastic (much like the international version)

    Response: Also fantastic on both units.

    Security-Unknown Sources default is to allow installation of non-Market apps (surprising).

    Total available internal space: 2.15GB
    Total available storage space: 9.93GB (In case you ask, yes, 9.93 is correct)

    Boot screen is typical Rogers: Red letters with white background on boot, and white letters with red background on power down. The boot process is about 90% HTC ONE X, with only a brief appearance by the Rogers red/white logo; however, the entire power down screen is Rogers.

    Rogers LTE APN:

    Name: Rogers LTE
    APN: ltemobile.apn
    Proxy: Not set
    Port: Not set
    Username: Not set
    Password: Not set
    Server: Not set
    MMSC: http://mms.gprs.rogers.com
    MMS Proxy: 10.128.1.69
    MMS Port: 80
    MMS Protocol: WAP 2.0
    MCC: 302
    MNC: 720
    Authentication Type: None
    APN Type: *
    APN enable/disable: APN enabled (default)
    Bearer: Unspecified

    Here are the network selection options in the Mobile Network Settings:

    HSPA only
    GSM only
    GSM / HSPA auto
    GSM / HSPA / LTE auto

    Yes, you can shut off LTE if that's what you want, and it works. I selected GSM/HSPA auto to see if it would NOT try to access LTE, and it didn’t. It stayed on GSM/HSPA, even during my speed tests.

    There's very little bloatware. Here's what's installed, other than standard HTC apps:

    Rogers 1 Contact
    Rogers 1 Number
    Rogers Games
    Rogers My Account
    Polaris Office
    Rogers Ringtones
    Rogers Live
    Rogers Shop
    SoundHound
    TuneIn Radio
    Rogers urMusic
    Twitter
    YouTube

    Here are some initial benchmark comparisons. Keep in mind that my Rogers unit is not rooted, so I could not optimize certain things, including SDCard read/write tweaks.

    The international ONE X figures below are the average for 3-4 test runs.

    AnTuTu:
    Rogers = 7002 / International = 10576
    Clearly the Tegra3 outperforms the SnapDragon

    Quadrant:
    Rogers = 4851 / International = 4670
    Surprising!

    Vellamo:
    Rogers = 2184 / International = 1608
    Wow, even I'm shocked!

    CF:
    Rogers = 12725 / International = 24451 (Yes, THAT high)
    This is what you'd expect, so not surprising.

    After a second round of testing, here are Test 1/Test 2 comparisons. They are virtually identical (with the exception of Vellamo, where there was a significant improvement). Numbers in brackets () are the average scores for the international unit.

    AnTuTu: 7002 / 7001 (10576)
    Quadrant: 4851 / 4833 (4670)
    Vellamo: 2184 / 2360 (1608)
    CF: 12725 / 12750 (24451)

    There’s a significant physical difference between the two designs. The glass cover over the camera on the international unit is absolutely flush with the camera frame (the part that sticks out and has been the topic of much negative discussion). This is not the case on the Rogers unit. The glass cover is about 1/2mm below the frame. It's not much, but certainly a lot when you consider putting your phone down on a surface that's somewhat rough. At least there's a bit of space now. Here’s a link to some images of both camera covers:

    http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25138374&postcount=78

    Here are average data results for the Rogers unit after three tests in each category:

    LTE Download: 29.77 to 39.63 Mbps
    LTE Upload: 26.28 to 26.83 Mbps

    HSPA Download: 5.55 to 6.91 Mbps
    HSPA Upload: 1.09 to 2.71 Mbps

    The LTE is amazing, not to mention that I was getting only 1-3 bars with LTE, yet I was still able to get fantastic speeds. I was getting 5 bars for the HSPA tests.

    The Rogers unit does NOT come with headphones. Here’s what’s in the box:

    The phone
    USB cable
    Charger
    Special device to open the SIM slot (although a paperclip works equally well)
    Documentation

    A question was asked by Flyarnk in another forum about an alleged problem with call NAME display. I can confirm that call NAME display works; however, the call does not show up in the call record.

    Both Wifi hotspot and USB tethering work flawlessly, and they are very easy to set up.

    I've been using the phone for about 20 hours, and my current impression is fantastic. I haven't yet found a single glitch. So far everything is working flawlessly. The Rogers unit is butter smooth and effortless. I did not get the same impression with the international unit. As I mentioned before, there were numerous glitches and unusual behaviour with many apps when I started using the international unit. It wasn't until I installed the LeeDrOiD ROM when almost every problem was solved.

    Both units have the typical HTC FM radio; however, the Rogers unit also has TuneIn Radio, and it includes both FM and AM. Yes, they work great.

    Both units support NFC.

    DropBox works flawlessly.

    The overall finish on both units is exceptional. I can't tell if there's any difference between the two. There are no chips or anything like what’s being noted about the HTC ONE S.

    In my opinion, I cannot see any reason why cases would not fit both phones. Yes, there is the very minor physical difference in camera covers, but I can’t see that interfering with the fit of a case.

    As you may recall, I mentioned in an earlier post that I have a profile that sets automatically at 11pm each evening to what is effectively airplane mode. This then automatically changes to my morning profile at 7am each morning.

    On my previous phones, mostly HTC, but a few by Samsung (see signature), the battery would drop to anywhere from 95% to 92% during this "airplane mode" period.

    With the international ONE X, however, it was still at 100% at 7am each morning. This is probably due to the use of the 5th core, where the phone goes into very deep sleep. However, I can now report that the Rogers unit is equally frugal.

    Last night I charged my phone to 100%. I unplugged the phone at exactly 10:59pm, and then allowed it to automatically go into airplane mode at 11pm. I did not touch the phone until 5am this morning. Okay, it's not 7am, but 5am isn't much different when I tell you the results. Now you may be asking why I touched it at 5am. Well, I couldn't sleep, so I got up at 4am and went to work. Then, at exactly 5am, I woke up the phone, and the battery still indicated 100%. I can only assume that it would probably still be 100% at 7am, or maybe 99% at worst.

    Regardless, it seems that in sleep mode, both phones use almost zero power.

    It's not a technical test by any means, but it's a simple comparison. I will do more battery testing tomorrow when I have much more time to leave both phones with their displays on, and both in virtually the same "situation."

    MORE TO COME ...
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    Physical Camera Differences ...

    Below are images of the camera cover and overall protrusion.

    The diameter of the entire camera frame/trim is as follows:

    Rogers: 24mm
    International: 22mm

    ONE_X_Recessed_Cover.jpg


    ONE_X_Camera_Differences.jpg


    As you can see, there are other minor differences, and I tried my best to get images of the recessed glass cover over the Rogers unit, and the flush cover on the international unit.

    Peter

    Addendum: I forgot to say that the overall thickness of the phone measured exactly at the centre of the camera is 11.5mm for the Rogers unit and 11mm for the international unit. Therefore, my earlier guess that the glass cover is about 1/2mm below the outer frame is, in fact, accurate. It seems that HTC supplied not only a casing that's larger in diameter, but also 1/2mm thicker, to recess the glass a bit.
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    More Image Comparisons ...

    Looks much better on the dual core version. Less noise and sharpening artifact. But its hard to be sure when the focus point is much further back on the tegra version. Can you repeat the test with both focused at the same point?

    I did the test again, but this time I focused on the exact same point (marked by RED circle), and I tried my very best to position both phones in exactly the same spot.

    Here are smaller images, side-by-side. The Rogers unit is on the left.

    ROG_OneX_Small.jpg
    INT_OneX_Small.jpg


    Here is the original Rogers image, no processing, all camera settings identical:

    ROG_OneX.jpg


    Here is the original International image, no processing, all camera settings identical:

    INT_OneX.jpg


    Again, I'd have to say that the Rogers unit provides a truer image with slightly less noise, although, the differences this time are very small. In fact, they are almost unnoticeable.

    Peter

    Addendum: Here are two 100% cropped images for further comparison:

    Rogers on Top

    ROG_OneX_Crop.jpg


    INT_OneX_Crop.jpg
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    There's a summary of all my comments in post 1 ...

    Hopefully this will make it a bit easier for some people.

    I've summarized all my comments on the original post. This is up to and including this morning (my time) of April 22, 2012.

    Peter
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    Darn... got my 1X and settings menu looks yellow...

    Don't have any other unit to compare to. Will post pics a little later.

    Pete... could you kindly take some pics of both your screens using a LCD testing app like display tester?

    Thanks

    Yellow...

    p4180360.jpg


    http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25017508&postcount=1


    Not yellow (mine)...

    6945454322_846f14549b.jpg


    http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=25024269&postcount=9