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HD2Owner

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Amen on this.
I know DFT has this build aswell, but there keeping it internal :S

since may 4th i am testing wm6.5.3 build 29022 in private (from dft via andrewsh).
since this build is not public (probably never will be)...

as much as i would like to release 29022 roms, i feel that it's a unfair advantage.
 
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Laurentius26

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@HD2Owner,

Nice decission you didn't publish the rom. ;)

This silly games are already busy for a very long time and you must
have seen my post which is currently being ignored by this man.

I do not understand why a bunch of people are hiding builds/roms for this community.
Keeping them exclusive for a specific group so others can't use it.

The same community they learn from and use the tools, apps, tweaks, etc in there roms...

Before it was a 'code between man of honour', as an excuse,

that's no excuse to my opinion as you are hiding these builds for
the same people who share with you and you learn from in this community so what kind of honour is that?!

The builds I'm talking about...

Predump MS build 29022
Probably stock HTC Oboe roms with MS builds 23157, 23158, 23160...

Just Google them and see where it ends! :rolleyes:
 
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gikoz

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@HD2Owner,

Nice decission you didn't publish the rom. ;)

This silly games are already busy for a very long time and you must
have seen my post which is currently being ignored by this man.

I do not understand why a bunch of people are hiding builds/roms for this community.
Keeping them exclusive for a specific group so others can't use it.

The same community they learn from and use the tools, apps, tweaks, etc in there roms...

Before it was a 'code between man of honour', as an excuse,

that's no excuse to my opinion as you are hiding these builds for
the same people who share with you and you learn from in this community so what kind of honour is that?!

The builds I'm talking about...

Predump MS build 29022
Probably stock HTC Oboe roms with MS builds 23157, 23158, 23160...

Just Google them and see where it ends! :rolleyes:

Very well said!
And I want to add that it looks like a joke: Some people are hacking by publishing ROMs built on leaked (stolen?) Microsoft Builds but they are protecting (their copyrights?). Come on guys, be serious and give to everyone access on those last Winmo 6.5 builds, now that this section of yours (and our) lifes on hacking on Windows Mobile comes to end!
 

Rataplan

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Very well said!
And I want to add that it looks like a joke: Some people are hacking by publishing ROMs built on leaked (stolen?) Microsoft Builds but they are protecting (their copyrights?). Come on guys, be serious and give to everyone access on those last Winmo 6.5 builds, now that this section of yours (and our) lifes on hacking on Windows Mobile comes to end!

Very well spoken gikoz, I tottaly agree with your statement.

Greetz,
 
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AndrewSh

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Just curious - am I also supposed to write anything here or it's ok if I don't do that?

P.S. I really like that - technical issues and build bug descriptions are replaced by philosophical reflections on good and evil in general and discussion 'bout the bestial behavior of some members of the community in particular....

RhiffSta, dude - share the ****in' build. At least it was me who promised DFT not to share the stuff.... You - free to do whatever you want, especially if you're rushing out of the abundance of incoming information....

I'm leaving the kindergarten - I'm too old for all that ****....

P.P.S. Nothing after 23152 is authentical in the branch...
 
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Laurentius26

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It's up to you what you are doing isn't? :)

'Technical issues and build bug descriptions are replaced by philosophical reflections on good and evil in general and bestial behavior of some members of the community in particular?'

A mouth full of words with a nice turning AndrewSH, fact is that it's happening, builds are kept hidden for this community and only provided to a specific group.
A exclusive kind of elite team that is allowed to use the MS builds in there roms but are forced promise not to share?

Are we allowed to talk and complain about this as it's not fair to this community?

And what are you asking now? Are you asking RhiffSta to break his word to DFT and go ahead leak the leak? :rolleyes:

It's indeed a kindergarten, strange you are walking away all of a sudden because you are feeling to old.
I think it's already a kindergarten for a very long time with this hide and seek games and you can have but you don't. :confused:

Just curious - am I also supposed to write anything here or it's ok if I don't do that?
P.S. I really like that - technical issues and build bug descriptions are replaced by philosophical reflections on good and evil in general and bestial behavior of some members of the community in particular....

RhiffSta, dude - share the ****in' build. At least it was me who promised DFT not to share the stuff.... You - free to do whatever you want.

I'm leaving the kindergarten - I'm too old for all that ****....
 
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Now it is time to talk....

i am working with and for the community for a longer time with two fake accounts and my real one. My real one is only two years young. With the other two accounts i have published many stuff that is used by these people who wan't share the things for the community. What i must do now? Have i to talk over my rights about the stuff? Have i to start the timebomb for these things, or not? It is really easy to do thinge like that. I have learned it from my russian friends, and they are really good.

I think i will push all my know how now to the roms from Laurentius26 and possible to the one who was everytime a fair player against me, and yes i mean indi. These both cooks have shared allways here stuff and these both guys was staying allways open for new things, also when i had a really crazy idea, right Leo ;)? When i have forgotten one of the cooks, then please stay open and share, so as we.

Now it is time to be still again...
 

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I don't get it how some dev are doing it like this...
If your not here to share, what are you here for then?
The money (donations), the fame??

Seriously I don't get it...

As fast as I got new stuff from HTC, Acer, SE, Samsung, whatever...even under NDA I still leaked the stuff for the community, and one time it even almost cost my job.... But I didn't care, It's a community it's ment to be shared!
 

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Laurentius26

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The post is not off-topic isn't? :)

I'm still waiting for someone to reply to our post and maybe share 23157, 23158, 23160.

It's a request and I see no reason why I should remove the post.

Anyway, a pitty I had to move a mountain before 29022 is shared, but I appriciate you do now.

Thanks!

And please, Leo or Ted or someone else with mod rights here - clean all the **** in the topic. At least since your deleted post, Leo and up to my current post.
 

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