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Then there IS a way to achieve root within the new update? I understood the only method to root within the new update was using a root keeper app and taking the ota).
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Since when? I thought people who took ota currently had no method to obtain root. Im not requesting it nor want it but just curious because I havent seen this mentioned.
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Just because root has not been released, does not mean it has not been accomplished.
Gaining root on a device is generally far easier than unlocking/hacking the bootloader and really shouldn't be stressed on
I agree entirely. Its just when you were responding lolzadam, you said he was in incorrect. I don't know though since you said it hasnt been released then I guess there isn't a way to make it happen for people, unless as you implied, they accomplish it themselves.
Seriously people quit probing.... in case you can't take the many hints dropped root has been or is not a issue obtaining. If you read Jcase's replies he states this more than once. Be patient let things become stable. Everyone is acting like this is the last device to be made.... The crave to have and the need is a fine line :good:
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I i was a developer i would wait until the bounty grows huge before i release anything. There may be a dev that already has the exploit but wants to wait for the bounty to get bigger. Maybe you should close the bounty at 2000-3000? If it goes that far!
Please no hate, just a suggestion.
Please no hate, just a suggestion.
Just my opinion but while there may be financial gain involved, I don't believe developers primary motivation for what they do is money. I'm not saying people won't respond to a bounty but if a way is possible, with or without a bounty a way is likely to be found. The primary goal of a bounty is to help entice one with the skills to focus their attention our way. Just take a look at this site. Many devs work in teams.....and also have friendly (and possibly unfriendly:silly
competition with others. If you had a way and were sitting on it for a bounty pot to get bigger, you run the risk of losing out to someone who beats you to the punch.I only encourage anyone on xda who has/will use it to add to the bounty.
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I cannot see how anyone can do the bootloader unlock. Its not confirmed but most likely a QFuse is blown and unless something leaks or miraculously qualcomm has another exploitable method
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Through root, things will be had, it might just take a few steps but the result is possible. That's why it's very important that we get root and recovery first. Unlock will be possible down the road after that.
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It seems ridiculous to me to say "root is possible" and "root is easy, we just want unlocked bootloader" and then not share the root exploit. Considering soft root isn't linked to the unlocked bootloader at all, why not go ahead and help those of us out who could care less about an unlocked bootloader?
I'd be perfectly happy with soft root and a locked bootloader if it's all I could have, as I'm sure other ME7 users would.
I stupidly un-rooted and updated thinking root/loki (or some equivalent) would be relatively easy to obtain with time considering the size of the GS4 user base, but now I'm getting worried. And the ridiculous fighting in this thread isn't making me feel much better. There's no reason to have a ... measuring contest around here. It's pretty clear who knows what.
I'd be perfectly happy with soft root and a locked bootloader if it's all I could have, as I'm sure other ME7 users would.
I stupidly un-rooted and updated thinking root/loki (or some equivalent) would be relatively easy to obtain with time considering the size of the GS4 user base, but now I'm getting worried. And the ridiculous fighting in this thread isn't making me feel much better. There's no reason to have a ... measuring contest around here. It's pretty clear who knows what.
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Actually, it would be stupid to share one before the other was ready, when the other likely requires the first. Why you might ask? Because they could patch the root before the bootloader was done. Of course people always complain about work that doesn't belong to them, no matter what.
There are reasons root exploits are not always shared (especially for free). Believe it or not but sources other than people who use the devices value root exploits as well (in almost all cases at a far pricier payout too).
This! :good:
I'm not complaining. I don't know enough about it (yet) to really say one way or the other. But I've been around long enough to know my fair share.
I was under the impression that obtaining root at the ROM level wouldn't be affected by the bootloader at all. Obviously you know more about it than me, so care to explain to the rest of us how the bootloader and root at that level is linked?
I think the majority of us are here to learn, so any guidance is appreciated.
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Seriously, this is ridiculous. The only real excuse is if someone bought or otherwise received a new device with the new update already on it.
When Motochopper was published, I included this warning:
When Loki was published, I included this warning:
This is not the first Samsung device to be locked on Verizon (see Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Note 2). This is not the first device capable of preventing downgrading. You're allowed to be upset at these restrictions, but you shouldn't be surprised, because the reality is most of the people in this thread just weren't paying attention and paid the price for ignoring what people have repeatedly warned. You should have known this device was going to be locked in the first place, and you should have known that applying an OTA update would prevent rooting or using Loki. Ignorance is no excuse.
As for achieving root, I'd say it's fairly embarrassing that at least two public exploits will work on this device, and no one can even get those working. Hint: the perf_event_open() exploit and the second Android "master key" exploit both affect this device. If the entire community can't even get two existing exploits working for a device, I don't have a lot of faith in its ability to find and exploit a new flaw in the bootloader.28I know I'm late to join the game and honestly won't make much use of it but I'll donate 15$ to the man responsible for this root method
No donations necessary (to ME, I won't speak for DooMLoRD as I don't even know the guy. However, if you DID want to donate to someone he would be much more appropriate). I just happened to be in a position where I could make a minor contribution to the overall effort.
I did not discover the vulnerability (this has been around quite a while), nor did I write the exploit - DooMLoRD generously posted his work for others to modify.
Which I did. So it worked out, team effort!26Guys, I can officially confirm we have root access, thanks to PWM978's modification of DooMLoRD's exploit
See my personal results below as a tester on my stock VRUAME7 build:
Next step is beanstown106 is working on fixing his CASUAL application to make an easy one-click method for this exploit.
Remember the bounty is for root AND recovery. So nobody give your contributions just yet because when the person who creates the recovery method is going to collect, you will be responsible for submitting that contribution to them.20Guys, I'm going to have to ask everyone to prevent any posts not directly related to the bounty, questions about development, or assistance in development for any of the topic-related methods. This thread is getting too large and will become an unorganized off-topic mess if we carry on with general posts about criticism of each other, Verizon, Samsung, or anything else related or unrelated. From now on, please remember if your post is not on topic, it will be submitted for deletion. To keep this thread as clean as possible I'm going make a list below of acceptable posts and I'd like to ask anyone that sees a post not part of the list below to click the report button on the post so it gets deleted as soon as possible. I appreciate everyone's assistance and cooperation to keep this thread on topic.
Respectfully,
Open1Your1Eyes0
List of acceptable posts
- New bounty submission or increase of current bounty
- Questions or assistance in development of a root, recovery, or bootloader unlock method
- Questions and answers regarding bootloaders on this device
- Questions and answers regarding the nature of lockdown on this device
- Questions and answers regarding eFuse/qFuse and emmc write-protects
- Questions and answers regarding kernel and bootloader-related exploits
- If you're working on such a method then any status updates you have on it
If you're not sure if what you're about to post fits into the description of one of the above please PM me and I will give you a simple yes or no answer. Upon that answer you may submit or withhold your post.
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