[BATTERY REVIEW]Cameron Sino Tech 2200 mAh Lithium Ion "Fat Phone"

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d33ps1x

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The battery champ indeed. A few weeks after. Revisited.

In follow up testing the battery has held it's max voltage and mAh rating weeks later.

It obviously takes a lot longer to get a full charge but if you think about it the last 10% of your charge cycle is the longest as the battery nears capacity. So a quick charge still leaves you with more capacity by far then the stock.

Had the phone out with me today and off the charger at 6 am. Used it to make 4 or 5 calls, some texts, some surfing for a while and it's still at 90% 12 hours later.

I've actually had 1 1/2 hours sleep in the last 3 days and took the phone on a marathon usage run for 23 hours surfing, calling, texting and playing a whole lot of Words With Friends over the 23 hour period that it lasted under strong usage.

With moderate use this battery is definitely the weekend warrior that it claims to be. It stayed cool to the touch and worked as advertised over the testing period.

I have gotten used now to the double thickness of the phone and the weight is somehow reassuring but alas all things change...

I walked in the door today to a new 2430 mAh ECell Gold Lithium Polymer battery, shipped from England, that is currently being maxed to capacity on the universal charger. (I'd rather it not go on fire IN the phone if it is going to.) ;)

Looking forward to taking it through it's paces over the next little while and although I don't expect 2430 mAh out of a slim stock sized battery I will be happy with 1800 mAh or so. It would be a nice balance between size and longevity.

I have no experience with lithium polymer except for in the new MBP so we shall see what this technology brings to the table.

Be prepared for the next instalment of the extended life battery collection with the ECell Gold 2430 mAh lithium polymer slim battery.

Coming soon...
 
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Looks legit to me...I orders one to off eBay coming from Japan, $15 bucks shipped....phone looks like a boost mobile brick :p

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How hot does the battery get? Has it ever had to sutdown due to heat?

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No. I used overclocked while charging, etc..

No issues. Very low heat compared to stock. Probably due to it's size physically.

I am currently testing the supposed 2430 mAh ECell Gold battery now. It also has less charging heat than the stock battery but no temp sensor to give an accurate reading. Just going by physical touch.
 
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Ok that's goood :) which battery do u like better? I just bought a Sino battery but its not here yet

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Ok that's goood :) which battery do u like better? I just bought a Sino battery but its not here yet

HTC Wildfire S (VM) "s-off" "rooted" Stock Rom

Well the stock is being burn tested right now and it just completed phase 1 lasting 1:06 to 73%.

The Gold completed phase 1 with 1:19 to 73%.

Still to test the CSI in this method but I will post the results here when I do.

To be honest I prefer the thin batteries but I didn't mind the "fat phone" and for an extended trip without battery or out on the boat all day it would be the clear choice.
 

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The final results are in...

And it comes as little surprise.

The three way head to head comparison of the HTC Stock 1230 mAh, the ECell Gold 2430 mAh, and the Cameron Sino Technology 2200 mAh batteries is finally over after a lot of conditioning battery cells and a final long night and day of burn testing.

Read the results here.
 
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Wow thats a lot of testing! I'm glad I bought the Cameron sino, to bad it won't be here till next week :/ but I can wait! Great test though thats pretty intresting of how some products name can be misleading, I read that ur running cyanogen mod 7.2 on ur wildfire s, is ur phone cdma? I didn't no there was a version yet but any way thanks for posting the result!

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Thanks for the long detailed reviews. One question though. Which size Wildfire will this battery fit? I've learned from buying cases that there are 2 different sizes of Wildfire S phones. Perhaps of most interest to me is would the extra capacity back door fit my Virgin Mobile Wildfire?

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Thanks for the long detailed reviews. One question though. Which size Wildfire will this battery fit? I've learned from buying cases that there are 2 different sizes of Wildfire S phones. Perhaps of most interest to me is would the extra capacity back door fit my Virgin Mobile Wildfire?

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Mine is from Canada which is the so called A510a which is the same as a European A510e (in my signature).

Not sure what the Virgin Mobiles are size wise.

I believe Insink71 had put together a wiki on the phone and might be of help on this question.
 
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Android311

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I just bought one but its not here yet, I have virgin mobile and I hope it will fit

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thanks for these battery reviews. I've just ordered the CS 2200mah battery. Between this and the recent root options and link2sd set up, this phone is going to be perfect for me :)
 

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it should be named wildfire s phat not slim.
lol

I actually started calling it that just because of your post. Credit to you. :)

As an update:

2243 is the average measured mAh of this battery after weeks of full cycles.

1503 is the average measured mAh of the ECell Gold 2430 after a few weeks of full cycles.

@Gloris. Enjoy. She's a big one but man is she hard to tire out. :p
 

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Just to let some people no that it won't fit the virgin mobile cdma phones, the back are diffrent and the back door, sucks cause I just bought this battery and want too use it lol live and learn :) but great test though a+

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Hey, I'm new to this forum. pretty cool. anyways, I was wondering.... will the Cameron sino 2200mAh extended battery fit the metro pcs wildfire s? I am unsure which type it is.... I want to buy one off of eBay but I don't know if it will fit.
 

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I checked on my phone, and it says it can go gsm and cdma, but I dunno if it it is a510e or a?????
btw thanks for the reply.
I really need a spare battery or an extended one, but all I find are for the GSM a510e.
 

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    Just checking the post box and lo and behold my Cameron sino 2200 MAh battery had finally arrived from England.

    It looks like the real deal but only testing will tell.

    I purchased in from this Ebay shop.

    They delivered it via Royal Postal Service and considering it is the Christmas season it took 14 days instead of the usual 8. Not bad.

    The battery and shipping cost me around $22.00 US.

    It's charging right now on my universal charger so I still have the use of my phone but I did take some initial photos of the difference in the case size, battery, etc, to post.

    My initial response was...whoa! Big! It's exactly twice the depth of the OEM battery.

    The back case of of a smoother plastic and not as "grippy" as the original. It's well made and fits perfectly.

    The battery itself it a surprisingly tight fit. At first I thought I had gotten the wrong size but it finally popped into place and sits snug in the case.

    In hand it feels different of course. Only with some use will I be able to really tell if it's a benefit or a detriment to have a case that size in hand. I have big hands so it might actually end up nice. Some swyping and other activities will tell and I will report of this when I do.

    I did a test of the camera with the inset camera and flash holes and there are no blackout spots in the pictures, nor do they suffer in quality as a result of the case.

    I had a theory that this case would be provide more bass by acting as a passive subwoofer cavity and indeed it does although I tested it with the standard battery installed. With less cavity space with the CSI battery installed it should fall somewhere in the middle.

    One of the things I noticed is increased low end response was created with a sacrifice in overall volume which makes sense. Will report further once battery is charged and there is a little less cavity space inside the casing.

    Below are some pics of the batteries, phone profile, etc.

    I will follow up with usage test results once it's charged and in the phone.

    Battery charged fully after a couple of hours as it was already pre-charged for a bit. On the phone and Battery Monitor base battery profile created. Will find out the true mAh once I deplete and recharge it once.

    I hope it will be a day or two before I report in on this. ;)

    EDIT: Update

    As I would have bloody well hoped, this battery does extend the life of the Wildfire S by quite a bit. Still trying hard to wear it down here by playing some games, coming up with a new tutorial, some recording of me playing guitar with 4 Track Pro, etc.

    No solid stats yet but I will have after a drain and recharge or two.

    Battery stays at a cool 25-26 degrees centigrade in operation and was cool to the touch while fast charging on the universal wall charger initially. I''ll provide charge while in use stats in short while.

    EDIT:
    11:10 pm and this thing is still charging. It's a lot of juice to squeeze in I guess. Waiting patiently and then I will post the charging profile screen shot from Battery Monitor.

    EDIT:
    12:00 pm and the battery is now showing full. Removed battery stats file and doing a complete drain. During charging while using the battery next jumped above 26.5 degrees centigrade. 10 degrees cooler than the stock battery.

    EDIT:
    2:00 pm and the battery is at 85 percent with moderate usage. Didn't get to sleep until 5:00 am and was up at 11:00 am checking mail etc.

    I have to say that compared with the other WFS with the standard battery I REALLY like the feel of this double sized one in the hand. I find it easier for Swyping and general use. It just feels substantial and cups in the palm of your hand in a way that the shallow case doesn't.

    EDIT:
    The battery is still going strong. Used it heavily last night doing backups and playing Words With Friends online, tapatalk, gmail etc. for a long while. Had a mega text session with a cute girl.

    Just after 3:30 PM on day two. Battery finally powered down after a heavy use phase for the last 10% for a total runtime on the first full charge of 40 hours.

    Way cooler than the stock battery. Never got warm to the touch. Clocked in at 26.5 C at it's highest temp.

    Apparently they even out and get even more capacity after a charge or two so if I get this up to 48 hours with moderate to heavy usage I'm thinking Phat is the new Thin! ;-)

    FINAL UPDATE:
    Battery charged over 7 hours while under a heavy load playing games.

    All in all I've gotten used to the size, love the amount of power and longevity I get, it stays cool, and the price was great.

    Next up... Ecell gold 2430 mAh standard sized lithium polymer review.

    Coming soon.

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    No problem. I'll put it in my Calendar. :)
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    it should be named wildfire s phat not slim.
    Hehe. :p
    Yah it's not the smallest but I'm liking how it feels in the hand even though it's no longer a Zoolander cell.

    So far I've been running it hard since 5 pm or so yesterday. NANDROID backups, restores, lots of web time, some games, FB, doing a bunch of root stuff to fix GPS and figure out WiFi issues. Sitting here with another couple of estimated hours left on it. Trying to run it dry for a calibration or two and it's taking a while to say the least.

    It's like the weekend pill Cialis...You could call this thing the weekend battery. :cool:

    I'm going to order...cough cough...I JUST ordered the 2430 mAh Lithium Polymer from Ebay and I'm going to try it as well to see if I can get this kind of run time out of a standard sized battery.

    Me <3 testing...
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    Had to put the discharge profile over two landscape screen shots :cool:

    Sent from my HTC Wildfire S
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    Will let you know when I test it. This one finally averaged out at2263 mAh. As advertised.