What is surge method ?

thrgk · May 15, 2014

I have been reading about surge method but not sure what it is. Does this enable boot loader unlock? I am on mk2.

Also if no boot loader unlock exusts. Is there a good touch wiz or fully stable aosp rom based off of kit kat? I could not find a tw one and not sure about aosp . None of the tw roms are being updated it serms

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joshm.1219 · May 15, 2014

thrgk said:
I have been reading about surge method but not sure what it is. Does this enable boot loader unlock? I am on mk2.

Also if no boot loader unlock exusts. Is there a good touch wiz or fully stable aosp rom based off of kit kat? I could not find a tw one and not sure about aosp . None of the tw roms are being updated it serms

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A method by Surge1223 to upgrade to NC5, 4.4.2, from MK2.http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2726868

No bootloader unlock exists, you can't run AOSP roms. There's multiple 4.4.2 TW roms in the android development section

thrgk · May 17, 2014

Is the 4.4 ota update worth it or not really ? Says there is better battery and faster. But is it worth no root ?

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lazer9 · May 17, 2014

thrgk said:
Is the 4.4 ota update worth it or not really ? Says there is better battery and faster. But is it worth no root ?

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Surge's method referenced in the previous post retains root.

decaturbob · May 17, 2014

thrgk said:
I have been reading about surge method but not sure what it is. Does this enable boot loader unlock? I am on mk2.

Also if no boot loader unlock exusts. Is there a good touch wiz or fully stable aosp rom based off of kit kat? I could not find a tw one and not sure about aosp . None of the tw roms are being updated it serms

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no boot loader unlock exist, for the locked bootloader safestrap must be used

you need to read the following thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2606501

thrgk · May 18, 2014

If I upgrade using OTA even though I'm on stock rooted will it just upgrade me and break root right ? Won't screw anything up ?

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decaturbob · May 18, 2014

thrgk said:
If I upgrade using OTA even though I'm on stock rooted will it just upgrade me and break root right ? Won't screw anything up ?

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my understanding that unless u are 100% stock and that means NO root, the OTA will mess up.

jake.99x3 · May 30, 2014

joshm.1219 said:
A method by Surge1223 to upgrade to NC5, 4.4.2, from MK2.http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2726868

No bootloader unlock exists, you can't run AOSP roms. There's multiple 4.4.2 TW roms in the android development section

There is currently 2 aosp 4.3 roms for safestrap. Although they are very buggy.

joshm.1219 · May 30, 2014

jake.99x3 said:
There is currently 2 aosp 4.3 roms for safestrap. Although they are very buggy.

Unfortunately I don't think they'll ever be truly usable. Kexec support is needed

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k1mu · Jun 1, 2014

decaturbob said:
my understanding that unless u are 100% stock and that means NO root, the OTA will mess up.

Not precisely. You can be rooted but otherwise stock and manage to take the OTA successfully. That will leave you unrooted.
My phone was rooted factory stock and would have taken the OTA successfully if not for a single modified file left behind by an older version of SuperSU and a file modified by Safestrap. If Safestrap wasn't active and without that old SuperSU thing it would have taken the OTA.

From a practical standpoint, you're right. Unless you're stock, there's a good chance the OTA will fail to start. And keep nagging you each time it fails.

djmisi99 · Jul 3, 2014

thrgk said:
I have been reading about surge method but not sure what it is. Does this enable boot loader unlock? I am on mk2.

Also if no boot loader unlock exusts. Is there a good touch wiz or fully stable aosp rom based off of kit kat? I could not find a tw one and not sure about aosp . None of the tw roms are being updated it serms

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If you are on MK2, than you have a locked bootloader, which as of today is STILL UNLOCKABLE!!!!
Therefore, there is no AOSP ROMS avaiable for us, SafeSTrap users, which means that we can only flash TW based ROMS!
there are tons of ROMs for us, SS users, and the first 3 ROMs that pop into my mind which are the best of the best for us i337 AT&T users with MK2 locked bootloaders is these:
SHOstock-i v7.0 ==> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2468860
Deadly Venom v3.0.2 ==> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2447482
HyperDrive ==> Android 4.3 RLS15 : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2520418
HyperDrive ==> KitKat 4.4.2 RLS17 : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2301724

And here is an INDEX for ALL ROMS for the Galaxy S4, 4.3 and 4.4.2 ...this here is the best forum there is for our S4: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2616221

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zombolt · Jul 5, 2014

I have spoke of surge's upgrade/downgrade methods before. He is a senior member here on xda. The other method I know of, as far as upgrade/downgrade, is giglies. Giglies method came out after. It's fewer steps but the documentation could use an overhaul. If you see a post around the s4 forums with surge's name on it, I bet a lot of people are going to see what he has to say about it

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decaturbob · Jul 5, 2014

with towel root now available for use on NC5 phones, the need to upgrade/downgrade really is no longer a driving force.

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