Windows Phone 8 definitely coming to 2nd gen handsets, probably to 1st gen

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yeah but what if microsoft tricks all of us, and with the apollo update comes for 3rd gen devices that are coming later this year. because of one fact, if they will "port" windows 8 to a phone, there is not enough memory (RAM) on the now available wp7 phones, they all have "only" 512 mb or 486 or 256... i think theyre are making a secret out of it because they are launching 3rd gen device that can have a windows 8 system on it. thats just a thought...
 
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Dinchy87 said:
yeah but what if microsoft tricks all of us, and with the apollo update comes for 3rd gen devices that are coming later this year. because of one fact, if they will "port" windows 8 to a phone, there is not enough memory (RAM) on the now available wp7 phones, they all have "only" 512 mb or 486 or 256... i think theyre are making a secret out of it because they are launching 3rd gen device that can have a windows 8 system on it. thats just a thought...
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Why should Windows Phone 8 need more RAM than Windows Phone 7 or 7.5 does? oO Windows Phone 8 != Windows 8, even if they share the same kernel, or at least parts of it.
 
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And if it does come to gen 2 devices, will AT&T treay it the same as they did 7740 and 8107?
 
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It's not logical to think that first-gen won't run WP8.
They keep dumbing down the standards (the minimum requirements), I guarantee their 3rd gen WP8 handsets are going to be sub-par, and go after the middle of the road market.

Think less quad-core, and more feature-phone.
 
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To say Microsoft has dumbed down Windows Phone to accomodate "feature phones" is not a true statement.

Give me the changes to the specs made to Windows Phone. Here is the list

One feature moved from mandatory to optional is camera. That would have nothing to do with low end vs high end but to facilitate businesses that do not allow cameraphones.

Another feature is the Tango 256MB. And unlike Android, there is no performance penalty from running 256MB, there is an app penalty.
 
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MS can't afford to go the android way and stop supporting a bit older phones, because lots of users would walk away from their OS. i love wp7 very very much, but if i won't get the update on my mozart, i'll stop supporting them entirely
 
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dkp1977 said:
Why should Windows Phone 8 need more RAM than Windows Phone 7 or 7.5 does? oO Windows Phone 8 != Windows 8, even if they share the same kernel, or at least parts of it.
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because i have tested it, windows phone 7 uses around 120-250mb sometimes more... with normal use, wlan, and 4-5 background tasks, and gsm. windows 8 uses far more, around 500mb minimum. and not a single app is running. then run something like IE with two or more tabs open, there goes your RAM or 512mb... so that the reason why i think microsoft make it like iphone and make an whole new device, with newer specs...

the second is. that some of the 1gen. devices dont have gyroscope and some other sensors that are used now in the 2nd generation dev. and what comes till end of this year the 3rd. gen. i think they will have just betters specs than 1st. and 2nd. ge. devices. plus more RAM and better processors. better screen resolutions and more...
 
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a rather old Asus Galaxy Windows Mobile 6.5 smartphone running a very early build of the ARM version of Windows 8 back when Microsoft didn’t have access to ARM based prototype tablets
 
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I think its been said that all phones will get WP8 but earlier phones will have features disabled just like low end Tango Phones won't have all Mango features.

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That's Windows 7 it's running... Look at the lower right corner of the screen... Also, notice it's not using Aero or even non the non Aero desktop...
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Back when they first showed windows 8 running on ARM they specifically stated that they were using windows 7 shell on windows 8 kernel. I cant recall what it was exactly but it was Microsoft keynote @ mix11 or maybe before that even.

Not to mention there is no ARM version of windows 7


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I love how Microsoft says some WP7 1st gen devices won't support Skype. While not official, Skype is working awesome on my HTC Trophy CDMA. Sure, I don't have a forward facing camera... but my front camera works... that has its own uses... XD
 
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    Dinchy87 said:
    yeah but what if microsoft tricks all of us, and with the apollo update comes for 3rd gen devices that are coming later this year. because of one fact, if they will "port" windows 8 to a phone, there is not enough memory (RAM) on the now available wp7 phones, they all have "only" 512 mb or 486 or 256... i think theyre are making a secret out of it because they are launching 3rd gen device that can have a windows 8 system on it. thats just a thought...
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    Why should Windows Phone 8 need more RAM than Windows Phone 7 or 7.5 does? oO Windows Phone 8 != Windows 8, even if they share the same kernel, or at least parts of it.
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    It's not logical to think that first-gen won't run WP8.
    They keep dumbing down the standards (the minimum requirements), I guarantee their 3rd gen WP8 handsets are going to be sub-par, and go after the middle of the road market.

    Think less quad-core, and more feature-phone.
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    To say Microsoft has dumbed down Windows Phone to accomodate "feature phones" is not a true statement.

    Give me the changes to the specs made to Windows Phone. Here is the list

    One feature moved from mandatory to optional is camera. That would have nothing to do with low end vs high end but to facilitate businesses that do not allow cameraphones.

    Another feature is the Tango 256MB. And unlike Android, there is no performance penalty from running 256MB, there is an app penalty.
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    MS can't afford to go the android way and stop supporting a bit older phones, because lots of users would walk away from their OS. i love wp7 very very much, but if i won't get the update on my mozart, i'll stop supporting them entirely
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