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nephron

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May 25, 2009
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Ok, so me and i assume many people are getting annoyed being asked the same questions over and over again. So here is a list of some of the questions and their answers. If i forgot any please tell me so i can add them.


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Question Index:

What is Hero/Rosie/Sense UI?
Do I need to have Root?
Do i NEED the new Radio and SPL?
Do i need Cyanogen's Recovery Image?
Do i need a formatted SD Card with EXT2/3 Partition?
How do i install a Hero Rom?Im getting a Boot Loop, what do i do now?
Should i use swapper? What is a good setting to use?
Is Apps2SD done automatically?
What is ADB and Fastboot and how do i use and install it?
How do i reformat my EXT2/3 Patition before flashing a New ROM?
What are the best settings to make Hero lag free?
What does not work in Hero?
I am stuck in recovery and need to add files to my sd card what can i do?
What is a nandroid backup and how do i use it?
Is a class 6 sdcard required?
How do i know what class my SDHC Card is?

All answers for the above questions and more are listed below.


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[Q] What is Hero/Rosie/Sense UI?

[A] The Rosie/Sense UI is a User Inerface created by HTC using the Android OS and made Android seem beautiful and amazing. From all the widgets to the eye candy and to the social network intergration, Rosie/Sense UI shows what Android should have been when it started. For a promo go here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKTDSfbcbBU

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[Q] Do I need to have Root?

[A] Yes.

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[Q] Do i NEED the new Radio and SPL?

[A] Yes, you MUST have the new Radio AND SPL

To install:

Things you need:

New SPL - Download
New Radio - Download
Your Current ROM - CyanogenMod 3.6
SD Card Reader
Rooted G1 Phone
Computer
USB Cable
Patience

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Install Radio FIRST

Download the Radio Update
Rename it to update.zip
Remove your SD Card from your phone and place it in your SD Card Reader
Put the update.zip at the root of your SDcard (root = not in any folder)
Insert your sdcard back into the phone
Turn off your phone (Hold power and press Power Off)
Hold the Home button and then press the power button (Keep holding power)
You will now enter recovery
Open up your keyboard and press Alt-S
Let it finish the update
When done reboot by pressing Home and Back
You should be able to access your Home screen (If its stuck on the Google G1 screen dont panic, just remove your battery for now)

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Installing the new SPL

Note: To update you must have a PVT board. To Check go into fastboot (Power and Camera and check) Thanks persiansown

Take your SD Card out again and plug it into the pc
Remove the update.zip that you put in there
Download your current Rom or any other ROM that you want. I suggest CyanogenMod 3.6
Download the SPL Update
Rename the SPL Update to update.zip
Remove your SD Card from your phone and place it in your SD Card Reader
Put the update.zip at the root of your SDcard (root = not in any folder)
Insert your sdcard back into the phone
Turn off your phone (Hold power and press Power Off) or put your battery back in and turn it on
Hold the Home button and then press the power button (Keep holding power)
You will now enter recovery
Open up your keyboard and press Alt-S
Let it finish the update
Now it will reboot on its own back to recovery
Reboot again by pressing Home + Back
Your phone will be stuck on the T-Mobile G1 Screen (Again DONT FREAK)
Remove the battery from your phone
Remove your SD Card and plug it back into your computer
Take the ROM that you downloaded and rename it update.zip
Remove the update.zip that was on your SD Card and put this new one it
Put the battery back into your phone
Enter recovery (Home + Power)
Press Alt+s to update
Let it finish
Press Home + Back to reboot
Thats it! You now have your new SPL and Radio

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[Q] Do i need Cyanogen's Recovery Image?

[A] No, but its recommended.

To install:

Download the recovery image HERE

Place the cm-recovery-1.3.1.img file in the root of your SD Card (Root = not in any folder)

Go back to your phone (Dont forget to unmount)

Open terminal and type in the following

Code:
su (wait for a screen to popup and press "allow")
flash_image recovery /sdcard/cm-recovery-1.3.1.img

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[Q] Do i need a formatted SD Card with EXT2/3 Partition

[A] No, but you should. It will make Hero and Rosie run much smoother and MUCH faster with NO lag.

Use SDSPLIT to create your partition - Follow this Guide

OR

Format your SD Card with EXT3 and Swap Parition


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[Q] How do i install a Hero Rom?

[A] Download a Hero Rom, i suggest JacHero's or Dizzy's

Rename your download from XXXXXXX.zip to update.zip
Place update.zip in the root of your sdcard (root = not in any folder)
Boot into recovery (Home + Power)
Wipe (Alt+w) and Flash (Alt+s)

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[Q] Im getting a Boot Loop, what do i do now?

[A]
Wipe and Flash again. If that does not work, reformat and repartition your SD Card, then wipe and reflash.

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[Q] Should i use swapper? What is a good setting to use

[A] Yes

Perfect Setting:
Swap Location: /system/sd/swap.swp
Swap Space: 32mb
Swapinness: 10 or 60 which ever works better for you

Note: Swapper will kill your SDCard faster then normal

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[Q] Is Apps2SD done automatically?

[A] Yes.

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[Q] What is ADB and Fastboot and how do i use and install it?

[A] Follow this guide

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[Q] How do i reformat my EXT2/3 Patition before flashing a New ROM?

[A] These commands are for ADB (Each line is a new command)

Code:
adb remount
adb shell
rm -r /system/sd/*
reboot recovery
then flash the update.


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[Q] What are the best settings to make Hero lag free?

[A] This is what i found to work best:

1) Swapper Settings:

Location: /system/sd/swap.swp
Swap Space: 32mb
Swappiness: 10 or 60 w/e works for you

2) Remove any widgets or apps that you done need through adb or terminal

Code:
adb rm /data/app_s/Stocks.apk

or in terminal :

Code:
su
rm /data/app_s/Stocks.apk

3) Use only 3 home screens, leave the other 2 blank

4) Use as less widgets as possible (Clock, Weather, and Twitter)

Thats what i do and it works perfectly! Enjoy! :D

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[Q] What does not work in Hero

[A] Bluetooth and LED lights are not working ATM but are being worked on. Some people are having issues with SMS and MMS as well.

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[Q] I am stuck in recovery and need to add files to my sd card

[A] [How to] mount SD card in recovery by Gary13579

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[Q] What is a nandroid backup and how do i use it?

[A] Go here and see the 3rd Post

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[Q] Is a class 6 sdcard required?

[A] No, but it will improve speed and performance especially when using swaper

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[Q] How do i know what class my SDHC Card is?

[A] Only SDHC cards have classes! To know what class your SDHC Card is just look at it :D

12992_1213802315.jpg


This one is a C4 (Class 4) SDHC Card

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For more help please go HERE where you will fine more guides and How-To's.

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Again, if you want me to add any more Q & A's please let me know! :D
 
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nephron

Senior Member
May 25, 2009
745
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ya you gave me the idea hahaha. I saw your post where you got pissed :D and i was like why not make a thread about all this? :D
 

bootleg16

Senior Member
Nov 22, 2007
197
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whoa nice thread.

i wish there would have been something like this back in february on how to root my phone.
lol

i took forever.
 

Abbens

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2007
155
1
Great read. One question I do not have a sd card reader, couldn't I just put my sd card into my phone then add the files to it?
 

persiansown

Retired Recognized Developer
Jan 12, 2007
877
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Was this proven to be true? I did brick a PVT device, but it was because I updated in the wrong order when it wasn't known that it would kill phones.

From what I have read, yes but I could be mistaken.

Regardless, OP, you should let the reader know of the inherent risk.
 

jamaljmys

Senior Member
Dec 16, 2007
911
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very perfect guide man
thank you very much

my Q : after normal flashing and allowing the swaper iam missing the market App. and termenal App., but when removing the SD Card after flashing done and restart everything gooing well and the market and the terminal Apps. are in place. what i should do to get swaper allowed and the SD Card in place and boot normaly and finding the Apps.

Your A :


thanks in advance
 

nephron

Senior Member
May 25, 2009
745
65
Great read. One question I do not have a sd card reader, couldn't I just put my sd card into my phone then add the files to it?

If you can get into your home screen, just use USB, thats fine but a card reader would be handy if you are stuck in recovery, especially when flashing the SPL

Here you go though :D

[Q] I am stuck in recovery and need to add files to my sd card

[A] [How to] mount SD card in recovery by Gary13579

i added it to the main page :D
 

nephron

Senior Member
May 25, 2009
745
65
very perfect guide man
thank you very much

my Q : after normal flashing and allowing the swaper iam missing the market App. and termenal App., but when removing the SD Card after flashing done and restart everything gooing well and the market and the terminal Apps. are in place. what i should do to get swaper allowed and the SD Card in place and boot normaly and finding the Apps.

Your A :


thanks in advance

I suggest reformating your EXT2 partition becuase something could have happened with the auto apps2sd. Reformat/repartition then wipe and flash. That should fix it :D
 

knoxbrder

Senior Member
Jan 10, 2009
338
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Thanks for the great instructions!

I have nandroided and restored backups a few times when I've tested various images, but always without an a2sd setup.

Now that I am on a Cyanogen image and using a2sd is there a specific nandroid/backup I should do?
1) I guess I don't know if nandroid will backup the a2sd portion of my apps?
2) I'm not sure if/how I should delete the ext2 apps when I install a new image?
3) Does a nandroid restore put the a2sd back?

Any chance you can include this info in your guide?

I would love to get a complete backup of my current install with a2sd as easily as a nandroid backup. Be able to install a hero image. Be able to quickly switch back to my old Cyanogen image if things don't work well enough for me. BTW, does the latest recovery allow easier reinstalls of a nandroid now? Using the flashboot util worked ok, but I just wondered if the current recovery image made restores as easy as it makes backups. And if it handles the ext2/3 portions as well now.


Thanks again for the great guide!
 

kidnoble

Senior Member
Jun 25, 2009
180
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ok...one more question. If I don't have the sd card reader, can I just use another object..like another phone and put my sd card in that to access the files? Or do I have to use the sd card reader? My thinking was that I could just grab my old Dash or my mom's phone and put my sd card in there to access the files on it.
 

nephron

Senior Member
May 25, 2009
745
65
Thanks for the great instructions!

I have nandroided and restored backups a few times when I've tested various images, but always without an a2sd setup.

Now that I am on a Cyanogen image and using a2sd is there a specific nandroid/backup I should do?
1) I guess I don't know if nandroid will backup the a2sd portion of my apps?
2) I'm not sure if/how I should delete the ext2 apps when I install a new image?
3) Does a nandroid restore put the a2sd back?

Any chance you can include this info in your guide?

I would love to get a complete backup of my current install with a2sd as easily as a nandroid backup. Be able to install a hero image. Be able to quickly switch back to my old Cyanogen image if things don't work well enough for me. BTW, does the latest recovery allow easier reinstalls of a nandroid now? Using the flashboot util worked ok, but I just wondered if the current recovery image made restores as easy as it makes backups. And if it handles the ext2/3 portions as well now.


Thanks again for the great guide!

First of all, if you want to learn more about nandroid go to the third post on this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=532719

Second, nandroid does not backup apps2sd, if you want to backup your /data/app folder or w/e just use ADB. Personaly i would use the ADB file explorer becuase it is so much easier to use! :D
 

nephron

Senior Member
May 25, 2009
745
65
ok...one more question. If I don't have the sd card reader, can I just use another object..like another phone and put my sd card in that to access the files? Or do I have to use the sd card reader? My thinking was that I could just grab my old Dash or my mom's phone and put my sd card in there to access the files on it.

use w/e you have :D. As long as you can transfer files to your sd card, especialy when you cant mount it, is a good thing. If you are stuck i added a Q & A about mounting your sd card in recovery mode :D