[Q] Nook hd+: to android or not to android?

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jb0756

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I've previously ran cm10 on my nook hd+ via an SD card (thought it was safer), after a few days I turn off the nook, turn it on the next morning and voila! It bricked itself, the screen boots to black nook screen then reboots. Didn't matter if there was an SD card in or not. Sucks for me, but before we go blaming me let me just state I did the same thing to a Nook tablet for years without issue and someone know what I'm doing.

Here's my delima, first my new nook hd+ is slow, its annoying. I have all the apps I want thanks to nooks update with google play, but its still slow as hell. Is putting android on it going to make it much faster, or is it just the limited hardware the nook hd+ has? Is it better to root the nook or run from SD (better being safer). Finally is it any safer to just by a N2A card. While I'm no programmer, I worked IT and know how to follow directions, and there is plenty of guides on XDA. I heard that the Nook hd + was pron to bricking when loading android, is it different now?
 

riboswitch

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Ok maybe I can help u out.

Download these two:

Win32DiskImager (tool for writing boot image to SD card)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager
NookHDplus-bootable-CWM-6028-for-stock-4GB-rev4-(05.15.13).zip (boot image for SD card)
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2062613


Step to Step -> unzip the "NookHDplus-bootable-CWM-6028-for-stock-4GB-rev4.zip" -> write the image to your sd card with win32DisImager (try to take a 4 gig SDCard (worked best for me) and after that copy your wished rom and gapps onto the SD.

Now ur device should start in Recovery and u should be able to flash a new rom!
Let me know if that helped u.:good:

edit: I recommend u to flash the latest CM 10.2 nightly on your emmc :)
 
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jb0756

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Ok maybe I can help u out.

Download these two:

Win32DiskImager (tool for writing boot image to SD card)
http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager
NookHDplus-bootable-CWM-6028-for-stock-4GB-rev4-(05.15.13).zip (boot image for SD card)
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2062613


Step to Step -> unzip the "NookHDplus-bootable-CWM-6028-for-stock-4GB-rev4.zip" -> write the image to your sd card with win32DisImager (try to take a 4 gig SDCard (worked best for me) and after that copy your wished rom and gapps onto the SD.

Now ur device should start in Recovery and u should be able to flash a new rom!
Let me know if that helped u.:good:

edit: I recommend u to flash the latest CM 10.2 nightly on your emmc :)




Thank you, I really could have used you six months ago (and will save this post in case a future issue arises), luckily I was able to return my nook under warranty. However, ever since I've been to nervous to try android again and have been running stock. But lets face it stock is slow. My question is, is android noticeably faster on the nook and has it gotten safer (ie less likely to brick) for the nook hd+.
 

riboswitch

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However, ever since I've been to nervous to try android again and have been running stock. But lets face it stock is slow. My question is, is android noticeably faster on the nook and has it gotten safer (ie less likely to brick) for the nook hd+.

Stock is kinda laggy, I tried it some days ago with the lates plain release.
I feel like I have the best experience with the latest CM 10.2 nightly build.
There was a possibility to brick your device with the MAG2GA chip and firmware 05 combination.
Since I have the firmware 06 combination I flashed ontop of my CM 10.2 this little kernel -> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2562499

It made my screen more touch sensitive and trim enabled (not sure if 10.2 is trimed by default!) -> Better speed.

If i helped u hit the little thanks button :highfive:
 
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first of all, stock nook is also some kind of android( and is a sucky android!!!!). CM 10.2 is now the most stable android version for NOOK hd +.

second, nook is not born to brick, Not matter it is on stock or CM. ONLY if your nook hd plus is using a faulty chip, AND you run CM 10.2, AND you turn of trim using a trim-enable kernel, then you may have the CHANCE to brick your nook.

You want to know about faulty chip (MAG2GA chip and firmware 05) ? Go to develop section and find a threat talking about TRIM and chip.

Last, go intall CM 10.2 from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2389813 and follow instructions from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
just use CM 10.2 and 4.3 gapps you are good to go!
 
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jb0756

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first of all, stock nook is also some kind of android( and is a sucky android!!!!). CM 10.2 is now the most stable android version for NOOK hd +.

second, nook is not born to brick, Not matter it is on stock or CM. ONLY if your nook hd plus is using a faulty chip, AND you run CM 10.2, AND you turn of trim using a trim-enable kernel, then you may have the CHANCE to brick your nook.

You want to know about faulty chip (MAG2GA chip and firmware 05) ? Go to develop section and find a threat talking about TRIM and chip.

Last, go intall CM 10.2 from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2389813 and follow instructions from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
just use CM 10.2 and 4.3 gapps you are good to go!




Thanks, I am going to make sure I chip is not faulty and I think i'm going to load cm10.2 on it. Is there a major benefit to replacing stock vs just running cm10.2 from an SD? Also do i download the nightly build or ovation?
 
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oboefiend

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Running CM on emmc is generally smoother than running it from an SD card. Of course, you lose the ability to dual boot, but the smoothness and stability makes it worth it IMO

Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM11
 
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run from an GOOD SD card could prevent brick due to faulty chip and you may go back to stock anytime you want. But the performance would be highly depend on your SD card quality. Lots of people use a class 4 or higher class sandisk SD card.


be aware that is you run cm rather than stock, the nook app could not be download from play store. But you could download the app online ( any other resources) and install it by yourself.

If stock is not important to you, you could go ahead and install CM 10.2( no need for cm10.1, cm 10.2 is very stable now) on internal SD card, which is also call "EMMC"

And because the official cm 10.2 is not trim-enable( trim may cause brick), so you are always good to install cm.


To sum up
1. there is not harmful at all to install cm10.2 if you follow instructions.
2. you could chose to install in EMMC (which would lose stock rom), or install in SD card ( you could still keep stock rom and use it at anytime)

I personally back up stock rom to my pc and install cm10.2 to EMMC. It is the most responsive rom for my nook
 
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Sherip

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Just wanted to say I've been running CM 10.2 from a 16gb Sandisk class 4 sdcard for months and been very happy with it.

Sent from HD+ MAG2GA CM 10.2 from SD
 

jb0756

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Just as a follow up in case anyone was wondering, I checked my nook's chip set and found it ran firmware 06, which If i read right was a good thing. That being said I went and installed cm10.2 on my emmc, and obviously runs a lot better. I used an android app "watchdog" to monitor the cpu usage. Nook os, running idol, used 60% of the cpu, CM10.2 used .5%.


Only issue I have notice so far is that the nook does not charge when powered off. I turned it off and left it plugged in all night and the charge light never even came on, and batter was at 40%. Turned the nook on and put it to sleep, the charge light came on and it was at 100% within a few hours. Not sure if there is a fix to this?

Also I heard that stock os was able to go into Deep Sleep to save battery life, and cm10.2 doesn't go into Deep Sleep, meaning the battery drains faster. Has there been a fix to this at all?

Finally, it is better to leave Cryogen auto updates off? or on? Just worried and update would go through and mess everything up, kinda like Windows likes to do :D

Thanks again for everyone's help! Thumbs up for everyone so far!!!!!!
 

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    Ok maybe I can help u out.

    Download these two:

    Win32DiskImager (tool for writing boot image to SD card)
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager
    NookHDplus-bootable-CWM-6028-for-stock-4GB-rev4-(05.15.13).zip (boot image for SD card)
    http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2062613


    Step to Step -> unzip the "NookHDplus-bootable-CWM-6028-for-stock-4GB-rev4.zip" -> write the image to your sd card with win32DisImager (try to take a 4 gig SDCard (worked best for me) and after that copy your wished rom and gapps onto the SD.

    Now ur device should start in Recovery and u should be able to flash a new rom!
    Let me know if that helped u.:good:

    edit: I recommend u to flash the latest CM 10.2 nightly on your emmc :)
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    However, ever since I've been to nervous to try android again and have been running stock. But lets face it stock is slow. My question is, is android noticeably faster on the nook and has it gotten safer (ie less likely to brick) for the nook hd+.

    Stock is kinda laggy, I tried it some days ago with the lates plain release.
    I feel like I have the best experience with the latest CM 10.2 nightly build.
    There was a possibility to brick your device with the MAG2GA chip and firmware 05 combination.
    Since I have the firmware 06 combination I flashed ontop of my CM 10.2 this little kernel -> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2562499

    It made my screen more touch sensitive and trim enabled (not sure if 10.2 is trimed by default!) -> Better speed.

    If i helped u hit the little thanks button :highfive:
    1
    first of all, stock nook is also some kind of android( and is a sucky android!!!!). CM 10.2 is now the most stable android version for NOOK hd +.

    second, nook is not born to brick, Not matter it is on stock or CM. ONLY if your nook hd plus is using a faulty chip, AND you run CM 10.2, AND you turn of trim using a trim-enable kernel, then you may have the CHANCE to brick your nook.

    You want to know about faulty chip (MAG2GA chip and firmware 05) ? Go to develop section and find a threat talking about TRIM and chip.

    Last, go intall CM 10.2 from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2389813 and follow instructions from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
    just use CM 10.2 and 4.3 gapps you are good to go!
    1
    Running CM on emmc is generally smoother than running it from an SD card. Of course, you lose the ability to dual boot, but the smoothness and stability makes it worth it IMO

    Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM11
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    run from an GOOD SD card could prevent brick due to faulty chip and you may go back to stock anytime you want. But the performance would be highly depend on your SD card quality. Lots of people use a class 4 or higher class sandisk SD card.


    be aware that is you run cm rather than stock, the nook app could not be download from play store. But you could download the app online ( any other resources) and install it by yourself.

    If stock is not important to you, you could go ahead and install CM 10.2( no need for cm10.1, cm 10.2 is very stable now) on internal SD card, which is also call "EMMC"

    And because the official cm 10.2 is not trim-enable( trim may cause brick), so you are always good to install cm.


    To sum up
    1. there is not harmful at all to install cm10.2 if you follow instructions.
    2. you could chose to install in EMMC (which would lose stock rom), or install in SD card ( you could still keep stock rom and use it at anytime)

    I personally back up stock rom to my pc and install cm10.2 to EMMC. It is the most responsive rom for my nook