[DISCUSSION] Google Nexus 4 vs any other phone

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juicyjones

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You guys realize the iPhone is fast because it runs an extremely basic OS right? Hell even increasing screen size would slow it down I bet. Put android 4.2.1 on an iPhone 5 and let me know how fast it is.

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That's totally false. The iPhone 5 runs iOS, which is based on OS 10's Berkeley Mach kernel unix. It only takes one google search to find out facts, calling iOS basic is just ignorant. That same google search will tell you that the iPhone iOS and custom made chipset is heavily optimized for gpu operations. Another reason is that Apple took four years to hand-draw the entire wafer. Four years of painstaking manual engineering. The iPhone is fast for a reason.

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That's totally false. The iPhone 5 runs iOS, which is based on OS 10's Berkeley Mach kernel unix. It only takes one google search to find out facts, calling iOS basic is just ignorant. That same google search will tell you that the iPhone iOS and custom made chipset is heavily optimized for gpu operations. Another reason is that Apple took four years to hand-draw the entire wafer. Four years of painstaking manual engineering. The iPhone is fast for a reason.

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Nevermind the fact that the iPhone 5's GPU is more robust than the GPU inside any Android smartphone to-date. The iPhone 4S's GPU was also more powerful than that inside any Android smartphone at the time, and I believe this contemporaneous graphical superiority extends back to the iPhone 4 as well.

In fact I believe the iPhone 4S's GPU is still more powerful than what's inside the best Android handsets today..
 

Alaris

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Ugh I have a note 2 which I love but lately have had the itch to get a nexus 4. I feel like owning two phones would be kind of siy though lol.

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Ugh I have a note 2 which I love but lately have had the itch to get a nexus 4. I feel like owning two phones would be kind of siy though lol.

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That's why I got two nexus 4... gifted one to brother and another to wife. ..I keep tinkering with them at weekends. ... but can't let go of my note 2:p:D

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The iPhone 5 GPU is not all that much better than the Adreno 320. And it should be able to push a few more fps especially since it can't and does not put out HD content. It has to be down scaled when playing on the iPhone.

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dodgebizkit

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I don't resent the S3, nor do I despise the iPhone particularly (although Apple themselves are a different story). I'd rather have a less mainstream device for my personal use though.

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What other people kuje shoukdbt positively or negatively affect what you like. You can't eat cake because everyone loves it, stick to sour kraut or sprouts lol - s3 is a brilliant phone, as is the nexus. The iphone also is but i feel very patronised by it.





That's totally false. The iPhone 5 runs iOS, which is based on OS 10's Berkeley Mach kernel unix. It only takes one google search to find out facts, calling iOS basic is just ignorant. That same google search will tell you that the iPhone iOS and custom made chipset is heavily optimized for gpu operations. Another reason is that Apple took four years to hand-draw the entire wafer. Four years of painstaking manual engineering. The iPhone is fast for a reason.

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Ios may have a complex kernel but it is basic in function (slide icons left to right, pop up a notification, open the app) and the only thing slowing it down is the animations that aren't necessary now that hardware is more than the power of a Casio watch (ie the first 2 gen I phones)




Nevermind the fact that the iPhone 5's GPU is more robust than the GPU inside any Android smartphone to-date. The iPhone 4S's GPU was also more powerful than that inside any Android smartphone at the time, and I believe this contemporaneous graphical superiority extends back to the iPhone 4 as well.

In fact I believe the iPhone 4S's GPU is still more powerful than what's inside the best Android handsets today..
4s + are built to be powerhouses
The 4 uses the same GPU as 3gs but 4x as many pixels so its arguably worse in that department, though it had a significant boost in processor (not number wise but in archrtecture).




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The iPhone 5 GPU is not all that much better than the Adreno 320. And it should be able to push a few more fps especially since it can't and does not put out HD content. It has to be down scaled when playing on the iPhone.

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There's like one offscreen Egypt HD test where I think the Adreno 320 beat the iPhone 5 by a slim margin -- in the majority of tests it seems the GPU in the 5 beats the Adreno 320 by over 27%, often well over 50% and sometimes close to 100%.
 

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What other people kuje shoukdbt positively or negatively affect what you like. You can't eat cake because everyone loves it, stick to sour kraut or sprouts lol - s3 is a brilliant phone, as is the nexus. The iphone also is but i feel very patronised by it



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I'm sorry but I don't speak Swedish. If you are saying cake is better than sprouts, I'd beg to differ. You will soon be very fat if you try to live off cake, but sprouts are nutritious.

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What other people kuje shoukdbt positively or negatively affect what you like. You can't eat cake because everyone loves it, stick to sour kraut or sprouts lol - s3 is a brilliant phone, as is the nexus. The iphone also is but i feel very patronised by it.








Ios may have a complex kernel but it is basic in function (slide icons left to right, pop up a notification, open the app) and the only thing slowing it down is the animations that aren't necessary now that hardware is more than the power of a Casio watch (ie the first 2 gen I phones)





4s + are built to be powerhouses
The 4 uses the same GPU as 3gs but 4x as many pixels so its arguably worse in that department, though it had a significant boost in processor (not number wise but in archrtecture).




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I see now that you clearly don't really understand how all these devices work.

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The actual user interface of apple is about equivalent to an android app drawer. Hell multitasking was a huge upgrade apple viewed as revolutionary. The device works well because its OS doesn't do anything that requires much resources.

I refuse to argue with apple fanboys they would rather die than admit their beloved devices are anything less than perfect.

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juicyjones

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The actual user interface of apple is about equivalent to an android app drawer. Hell multitasking was a huge upgrade apple viewed as revolutionary. The device works well because its OS doesn't do anything that requires much resources.

I refuse to argue with apple fanboys they would rather die than admit their beloved devices are anything less than perfect.

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Lol nice troll.

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You guys realize the iPhone is fast because it runs an extremely basic OS right? Hell even increasing screen size would slow it down I bet. Put android 4.2.1 on an iPhone 5 and let me know how fast it is.

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Until you pointed out, i didnt realize that its the screen size that matters as opposed to the resolution of the screen. Thank you.
 

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The actual user interface of apple is about equivalent to an android app drawer. Hell multitasking was a huge upgrade apple viewed as revolutionary. The device works well because its OS doesn't do anything that requires much resources.

I refuse to argue with apple fanboys they would rather die than admit their beloved devices are anything less than perfect.

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Hmm.. Yes it was revolutionary but that was 5years ago ,they haven't made much changes in thier os
,and even small updates appear big for some ios users .
ios has become "stale" for me
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Iphone5 kills n4 in IPS screen colors, sexy sleek design shape its quick to open up certain settings ie. SBS settings Cydia app, jailbroken

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Nexus 4 wins hands down

Nexus 4 is by far my fave! iOS bores me and iclones might have OK hardware but, its still limited for what I want from a device.

It also beats my HOS I've just binned and my mrs HOX. I don't miss sense one bit. The pros well outweigh the cons for me:)

Funny how peeps get so serious in forums (of all kinds), each to their own regardless of fact:)
 
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How's the touchscreen responsiveness? I see a lot of people complain about it. My GSII has a PRS of under 0.10 and my Nexus 7 has it about 0.20-0.30. I saw some youtube videos of people getting like 0.40 or higher and light presses not registering.
 

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I have an iPad 3, iOS sucks. You can't even share music, videos or documents between apps! What kind of retard thought that was a good idea? I only got it for the music apps which you can't get on Android, otherwise I wouldn't have touched an iDevice! iOS is antiquated and stagnant, while Android keeps getting better with each revision.
 
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I just picked up the GN2 on Tuesday and wow....I loved my N4 a lot but the GN2 has not left my hand. The battery life is stellar 1 day 10 hrs with almost 4 hrs surfing and 2.5 hrs gps tracking and music streaming and just dipped to 29%.. I have not rooted the GN2 so it's all stock. I have a GN1 that I used to love, poor guy, but it was crashing too frequently on Liquid. My N4 has never crashed and I love it but my headphone jack is screwed up and I need to send it in. This GN2 is beautiful and may become my DD.
 
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Alaris

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Yeah I have a GN2 and love it but I keep finding my self looking at the Nexus 4. But even though I can afford it just can't justify two phones.

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    I guess I'll throw my opinion out there...

    After owning the first iPhone, 3G, then 3GS I decided to give Android a try with the Nexus One. It was all downhill from there as I was completely sucked into Android. I then went through a few different android phones from the Nexus one > HTC Sensation > Galaxy SII > Galaxy Nexus > Galaxy SIII. I was happy with all of these phones. However, when the iPhone 5 came out I decided it was time to give IOS a try again. I lasted all of 2 weeks with that phone until i realized I really just cannot stand IOS (even as a mac user). But the one thing that made me hesitant in going back to Android was that the build quality of the iPhone 5 is excellent. It was better than any other phone I had ever owned.

    When the Nexus 4 was announced and reviews were being posted on many blogs I decided to return the iPhone 5 and pull the Galaxy Nexus out of the nightstand to use until I could get my hands on the N4. People were saying it was the most solid and well built Android phone to date so I was getting excited for it. As of 3 days ago I finally have the N4 in my possession. At first I really liked it but didn't think it was THAT much better than the Galaxy Nexus. But after a few days of real use I have come to learn that this phone truly lives up to the hype. It really is the most well built Android phone I have ever used and it's the first Android phone that I really think can be compared to the iPhone in terms of build quality.

    I'm already happier with this phone than I have been with any of my previous phones. It really is of superb quality and I'd recommend it to anyone.
    10
    For a Musician, a film maker, and a writer, this phone is completely useless and there is dozens of phones much better suited.

    - Can't use USB otg, - no $5 used cheap keyboard while traveling

    - Can't use external mic, that really sucks.

    - Can't edit video as good as the iphone.

    - Can't use SD cards as a musician to switch the card back and forth with a mac for super quick transfer of 30+ gig files.

    - Can't take the rugged abuse the people that use their phones for creative things tend to do with them.

    I am sure this phone is good for some but if you really need to creative I think you need an iphone, even iphone 3 blows this out of the water for recording and garage band, the 4s completely blows this out of the water in every usefull way but a few specs.

    ALso the screen sucks, it is way to big, I might as well get a ipad mini and have full creative potential.

    I can't think of anyone in the real world that would need this other than a gamer, and that I am not.:good:

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    LOL, the iphone is 10x better in everyday use, better size, one handed usage, huge support for musicians. You can paint on it, you can edit movies, you can have mulit track recordig with external mics, the battery lasts almost double, the construction is by far the best in the industry.

    ALso there is only one iphone so all the apps work perfect with each other.

    I can't think of a single reason android is even around except some people like to tweek settings and it made smartphones available to cheap or poor people - maybe the last bit is fair thou,most people can't afford an iphone.

    That's one of the most comical, ignorant posts I've ever read on any forum...EVER...lol. I could literally write a book listing all the reasons Android trumps the iPhone, but I won't do that. You know why?...because they would mostly be my opinions. You must either be a kid or a midget if the N4 is too big/uncomfortable for your hands. You have very specific needs for a phone that most people don't have...but I love your self centric attitude. I really detest people like yourself...you have made me lose 3 mins of my life just responding to you...haha. Go enjoy your baby phone and garage band...lolol.

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    9
    I'll start by saying my Nexus 4 has turned out to be far better than i expected. I ordered on the 3rd of december and I was in the 1-2 week bracket and reading the battery threads and fault threads I came very close to cancelling my order. In the end I held out and it got delivered 2 weeks from the day of order.

    I get through a lot of phones and my smartphone history started with the original iPhone which i replaced 12 months later with the 3, then the 3GS, then the 4, then the 4s. Between the 4 and 4s I had a month using a HTC wildfire s as a quick play with android. Probably due to the phone but my first impressions of android were not good.

    Purchased the 4s on launch day and was happy to be home. Within a few months I'd become bored of IOS again and got a great deal on the HTC one x in black (i kept the 4s as a backup incase I didn't like it). First impressions were great but I had massive problems with battery usage on both mine and my partners, dead pixels, poor build and fit and although I enjoyed ICS the quality of the phone and battery problems meant I hated the HTC and was relieved to sell it on eBay and go back to my 4S.

    A month or so later and I was itching for android again. I'd always liked the s2 in black and that was the phone i was looking at when the salesman persuaded me to get the one x. A deal came up where I managed to get a brand new unlocked s2 for £200 so went back again for another try.

    WIthin a day of using it I was in love. The iPhone went on ebay as I knew I wouldn't go back the the 4s. It was a brilliant phone on ICS in my opinion. I loved the physical option, back and home keys, the blacks of the amoled screen blew me away and had no issues with the colour accuracy. Battery matched my 4s too. My workplace leaves me with no signal so phones seem to use a lot of battery hunting for signal so 10 hrs in the building would kill the s2 battery but was great on a normal day.

    Then came the iPhone 5 announcement. I said I'd never go back but the hype always draws me in so I was there again on the apple website on launch day ready to put my order in. I got a black one delivered on launch day and it didn't last long. Like many others, mine arrived with damage to the anodising bezel and after a few days I requested a replacement. As ever, apple service was amazing, was offered a refund or replacement, they'd organise collection and even though they were sold out, they keep a certain amount aside for exchanges so would only take a few days.

    It was after a few days I realised what a waste of money the 5 was. The finish was getting worse and was clear a 12 month old 5 is going to look awful. Battery was awful with the screen on (probably sw judging by other iphone IOS launches) aspect ratio was awful, and being so long and thin was uncomfortable to hold and use. Blacks were bad on the IPS screen and the earpiece was so tinny it made phone calls uncomfortable. I also had a problem that it wouldn't hunt for signal, therefore when I lost it and was back in a high signal area my phone would still say no service and I had to go into airplane mode and back again to get signal back. I'd had enough and replied to my apple email requesting a refund instead. 15 mins later they sent a reply all sorted (again, you cant beat the service) I then went happily back to the s2.

    I then really fancied an s3 in black but was struggling to get a good deal, white or blue no problem but black were rare. It was a few weeks before launch that I saw the G4. TBH, being LG put me off and I don't think the pics do the phone any justice but spec and price meant when it became available again I thought I'd give it a go.

    I've had it 10 days now and I firmly believe its the best bargain out there in the tech world right now. How they can sell this device for such a small amount is unbelievable.

    The goods;

    -Build quality and feel is right up there with the iphone. Glass back and front is lovely and adds a quality feel and the rubberised edge feels nice too.
    -It's fast, iphone 5 quick in responses and makes my s2 feel very slow in comparison. The speed you can flick between menus and apps is lovely.
    -camera is just as good as the iphone 5 which I didn't expect. Instant photos and no problems in low light unlike my s2.
    -Pure android is much nicer than any other version I've used, clean just how it should be.
    -Battery life far exceeds any of my other phones, 15 hours a day with 3-4 hrs screen time and 20% battery left with ease. Not once have i plugged it in to top up to see the day through. I have the screen on 50% brightness and I'm shocked after the battery comments. Also, the phone uses hardly any battery searching for signal when I'm at work which is a bonus.
    -resolution of the ips screen is pin sharp, looks identical to the other halfs iphone 5 screen which i believe is also an LG screen if you're lucky.

    The not so goods;

    -I miss the blacks of the AMOLED screen, I prefer the over saturated colours and blacks although I can appreciate that this is still a great IPS screen.
    -I prefer physical buttons on the s2, it makes the phone looks lovely and clean but it's wasted display size losing the bottom section to buttons.
    -The camera lens does rattle at times which isn't the nicest feeling.
    -I'd like to be able to stick a memory card in but to be honest I'm sitting with 9gb free so maybe there isn't such a need with an unlimited data plan and the cloud.

    Overall it's surpassed my expectations and is the best sim free phone out there right now overall. I'll be tempted when the s4 comes along to go back for the AMOLED display, but until then I'm very pleased with my purchase.
    9
    First impressions, the One S is MUCH better than this phone

    However I am about to root it, and use it for a full week now, so will see if I just need to get used to it

    You must be completely blind and have autism.

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    9
    I love my Nexus 4.....but the only thing i wonder about is why did LG think it is OK to put the headphone jack on the top? My old nexus s has it on the bottom and it makes much more sense there.

    better with headphone jack on top when you're pluggin aux in car. and the whole theory of "headphone jack is better on bottom for keeping phone in jeans and listening to music" is a load of crap. there are many ways to reach for your pocket lol, and having the jack on the bottom doesn't make it more convenient