Wiping from MOBILE ODIN PRO is safe. Need confirmation.

rjrjzozo · May 28, 2012

Guys. Flashing Official Andoird 4.0.3 on Note and WIPING with Mobile ODIN pro is safe. I flashed 7 Note and wiped (BY MOBILE ODIN PRO !!! not in recovery !!!) until now and no bricks so far. Verified and these devices have all the 0x19 rev.

I think it's due to the fact that MOBILE ODIN PRO uses its own kernel : when you launch the operation (from your previous rom, rooted of course) you can see MOP flashing a kernel before rebooting . And if you have checked the "WIPE DATA and CACHE", MOP wipes the device using this kernel, not the old kernel. Neither the new kernel because it is still inside its kernel when doing the wiping.

If you check inside the SDCARD of the Note you can see the file "eu.chainfire.mobileodin.flashkernel.n7000.v2". This file is the same that MOP uses since the GB days. So I guess it's a GB kernel. Perhaps it's a specific kernel made by Chainfire. But i'm sure it has nothing to do with ICS so it's hardbrick bug free. But it's the kernel that MOP uses when flashing and wiping.

drsomchai · May 28, 2012

+1
so interesting..

Alejandrissimo · May 28, 2012

rjrjzozo said:
Guys. Flashing Official Andoird 4.0.3 on Note and WIPING with Mobile ODIN pro is safe. I flashed 7 Note and wiped (BY MOBILE ODIN PRO !!! not in recovery !!!) until now and no bricks so far. Verified and these devices have all the 0x19 rev.

I think it's due to the fact that MOBILE ODIN PRO uses its own kernel : when you launch the operation (from your previous rom, rooted of course) you can see MOP flashing a kernel before rebooting . And if you have checked the "WIPE DATA and CACHE", MOP wipes the device using this kernel, not the old kernel. Neither the new kernel because it is still inside its kernel when doing the wiping.

If you check inside the SDCARD of the Note you can see the file "eu.chainfire.mobileodin.flashkernel.n7000.v2". This file is the same that MOP uses since the GB days. So I guess it's a GB kernel. Perhaps it's a specific kernel made by Chainfire. But i'm sure it has nothing to do with ICS so it's hardbrick bug free. But it's the kernel that MOP uses when flashing and wiping.

Right you are, Mobile Odin uses a hot boot kernel to make the magic so YES IT's SAFE.

rigor.m · May 28, 2012

I flashed JPY the same way wiping with Mobile Odin Pro and encountered no problems. But I never had any custom ROM or kernel installed and I have only flashed my Note 2 times, so the risk of breaking something was low...
Maybe people that need to perform a wipe on ICS stock rom should do it by reflashing (+wipe) the same rom with Mobile Odin Pro ?

Narada2XK · May 28, 2012

Wiping doesn't touch the external_sd right?

<img src="http://xdaforums.com/signaturepics/sigpic4304884_1.gif" />
Sent from my Samsung N7K device.
(cm-9-20120527-NIGHTLY-n7000)

rjrjzozo · May 28, 2012

doesn't touch the external SD neither the internal. Only DATA and CACHE are wiped

yllivia · May 28, 2012

I flashed LPY rom together with cf 5.3 via mobile pro and i also wiped the data upon flashing it. That went well... No problems... I'm still on LPY rom and i haven't experienced a single FC. But it would surely be nice to get rid of the emmc bug 100%. Franco and speedmod kernel disabled emmc erase and it is a nice workaround and a step towards the Happy and safe flashing of ics roms...

Alexanderbooth · May 28, 2012

I flashed via mobile odin and did full wipes, I also did a full wipe from samsung menu when ics had booted, and had no problems. But people say on here it doesn't always happen.

rjrjzozo · May 28, 2012

Risky method

Alexanderbooth said:
I flashed via mobile odin and did full wipes, I also did a full wipe from samsung menu when ics had booted, and had no problems. But people say on here it doesn't always happen.

Your method is risky because you wipe using the ICS bugged kernel. I are lucky these times. Next time you'll got brick. Safest is WIPING from Mobile Odin. 100 % safe.

darthvedor · May 28, 2012

Alexanderbooth said:
I flashed via mobile odin and did full wipes, I also did a full wipe from samsung menu when ics had booted, and had no problems. But people say on here it doesn't always happen.

Few users on Indian ICS updates (LP8) have reported the same. Does it mean sammy has silently fixed the eMMC bug (which bricks the phone)? In that case its a very good news.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1674930&page=3

utp · May 28, 2012

Report I too uses MobileOdin Pro to official ICS with full wipe, no problem here too!

XeOniFiCaTiOn · May 28, 2012

I got my note from KSA. Since i have no warrenty i decided to go for Custom CFW's . I used PC ODIN .85 to move from my Stock(KSA region) Rom to GB 2.3.6 Stock rooted non wipe(Indian Region ) ROM . I then downloaded Mobile ODIN Pro and pointed at N7000XXLPY_N7000OXALPY_DBT firmware with CF-Root-SGN_ZS_OZS_LPF-v5.3-CWM5 kernel. Once it upgraded to ICS and reached the home screen. I booted into CWM and wiped my factory,cache and dalvik. I installed TheMIDTeam1.3_FINAL from the Internal card itself. It was the smoothest move and faced absolutely no problems. I updated TMT through CWM. Running on TMT1.4 Update 2 now. The OS has really become slick. i am reading a lot about imeka's PA rom. HOpe to get the soon if there are ROM control options. I want to change my density of the display.

friedje · May 28, 2012

and what keeps you from changing the density ?

on topic : it would be nice if chainfire could confirm that flashing with mobile odin pro uses it's own hot kernel for doing so, and not the currently installed kernel...

chasmodo · May 28, 2012

rjrjzozo said:
Safest is WIPING from Mobile Odin. 100 % safe.

Yes, wiping from MO is safe...if you get to that point without a brick.
Problem is that MO uses the bad kernel to flash its own, and that is very dangerous.

l0rd_almighty · May 28, 2012

Does this mean that if you used Mobile Odin Pro to upgrade to ICS, your left with using an "outdated" kernel? Or is mobile odin just modifying the new one everytime you flash a new rom? When I check my kernel version in the settings is shows

3.0.15-n7000xxlpy-cl474507
se.infra@sep-103 #3
smp preempt fri may 4 04:49:06 KST 2012

friedje · May 28, 2012

No what it means is that MO uses it's own kernel for flashing and wiping independent from what kernel you are actually running or flashing.

I flashed LPY from within MO having a GB previously installed.
I never did a Wipe, so I suppose to still be ok.

Now I will wait some nice custom roms coming out with safe kernels.
Shouldn't be for too long now..

Alexanderbooth · May 28, 2012

darthvedor said:
Few users on Indian ICS updates (LP8) have reported the same. Does it mean sammy has silently fixed the eMMC bug (which bricks the phone)? In that case its a very good news.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1674930&page=3

I used the german version to flash so probably not, probably just got lucky. But saying that I've never actually heard anyone say exactly what it is that causes the bricking. I have only flashed from stock gb to stock ics and thats it. Its still strange how it doesn't happen to everyone when they wipe, the emmc thing is obviously not the only factor in the situation, especially seeing as the same command is active in GB aswell.

friedje · May 28, 2012

chasmodo said:
Yes, wiping from MO is safe...if you get to that point without a brick.
Problem is that MO uses the bad kernel to flash its own, and that is very dangerous.

Except for the ppl that had MO installed with their GB rooted kernel and used MO to upgrade...

rjrjzozo · May 28, 2012

chasmodo said:
Yes, wiping from MO is safe...if you get to that point without a brick.
Problem is that MO uses the bad kernel to flash its own, and that is very dangerous.

But MO uses a kernel wich is the same as before theses dangerous kernels came out. This kernel is located on the root of the sdcard. No matter you are on GB, ICS official or CM9 , the file that MO flashes before rebooting is the same.So i guess it's a GB kernel. So when it wipes the Data partition the new dangerous kernel isn't used. Neither the kernel used in the previous rom.

friedje · May 28, 2012

rjrjzozo said:
But MO uses a kernel wich is the same as before theses dangerous kernels came out. This kernel is located on the root of the sdcard. No matter you are on GB, ICS official or CM9 , the file that MO flashes before rebooting is the same.So i guess it's a GB kernel. So when it wipes the Data partition the new dangerous kernel isn't used. Neither the kernel used in the previous rom.

I suppose chasmodo meant to say that if you choose to install MO while already being on a buggy ICS then that is dangerous....

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