Complete noob and new to Androids!

OrangeMagicGod · May 1, 2014

Hey peeps,

Am totally new to android as I have only just binned my iphone contact and got a Ultra, the issue am having, I am reading and reading and getting nowhere fast

I would like to root my phone but I seem to be getting stuck in an endless loop which I don't know how to break!

Phone is brand new, no contacts, nothing, I just want to do the following, which I would have thought would be in this order,

Backup the TA (As I have read and read that this will save the DRM keys, which once lost are gone)

Now, I read to backup the TA, I need to root, to root I need to unlock bootloader, to unlockboot loader you have to root all of which then I read is warnings that you can lose the DRM's

Arrrghhhh

I have the flashtool installed

Am on .757

My bootloader is locked but unless the .757 update changed it I was able to unlock it but everything I have tried and read doesn't work

I have my unlock key as well, and I have vague idea's what I want to do but there are so many threads and everything seems to loop back to to root, you need unlock, to unlock you need root to flash you need root lol am going crazy.

Am not sure why am struggling so much with following the guides but I guess it's cause I have zero experience with doing this.

any help would be greatly appreciated

LordManhattan · May 1, 2014

Yeah, I'm not surprised by this at all; and welcome! You have to downgrade to 532 using Flashtool, then root, and then backup the TA partition. You're free to upgrade to 757 again after that, unlock your bootloader and root 757.

Sent from my Z Ultra

OrangeMagicGod · May 2, 2014

Thanks for that info mate, so far that's made more sense than searching all of these posts

Am thinking about two steps in this guide to downgrade

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2593918

First one seems very simple, but second one seems to flash them back to solid stock from the look of it.

Once downgraded,

I thought you require bootloader unlocked before you can root, and from what I read you need root to unlock/backup, or have I missed something?

(hopefully will be back to 532 shortly after files finish downloading.

LordManhattan said:
Yeah, I'm not surprised by this at all; and welcome! You have to downgrade to 532 using Flashtool, then root, and then backup the TA partition. You're free to upgrade to 757 again after that, unlock your bootloader and root 757.

Sent from my Z Ultra

Speederoff · May 2, 2014

OrangeMagicGod said:
Thanks for that info mate, so far that's made more sense than searching all of these posts

Am thinking about two steps in this guide to downgrade

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2593918

First one seems very simple, but second one seems to flash them back to solid stock from the look of it.

Once downgraded,

I thought you require bootloader unlocked before you can root, and from what I read you need root to unlock/backup, or have I missed something?

(hopefully will be back to 532 shortly after files finish downloading.

Hey mate, yesterday i had successfully root my XZU with locked bootloader and no backup TA or else, because I'm not yet decided to unlock.
Currently your device is locked or unlocked bootloader?.
Perhaps i could help you.

OrangeMagicGod · May 2, 2014

Currently mines locked.

Speederoff said:
Hey mate, yesterday i had successfully root my XZU with locked bootloader and no backup TA or else, because I'm not yet decided to unlock.
Currently your device is locked or unlocked bootloader?.
Perhaps i could help you.

blueether · May 2, 2014

OrangeMagicGod said:
Currently mines locked.

Just do as has been said a thousand times...

Downgrade to .532 - see my downgrade thread
Root using either [NUT]'s dual recovery or bin4ries tool - see thread in step above or LordManhattans guide
Backup the TA - see LordManhattons guide
Upgrade to latest FTF
Unlock bootloader
Root using jackies099's kernel
...

OrangeMagicGod · May 2, 2014

After hours of reading and searching around and trying to follow what LordManhattan said.

I have the phone down to 523.

I now have the bootloader unlocked

Just not sure on the rooting of the phone..

With Flashtool can I simple press the Lock key and root it that way? I don't know the difference between Superuser or SuperSU

Or do I have to do it another way?

I have looked at a number of rooting options and am unsure what to do, one way the links on the guide didn't work others are little confusing!

blueether · May 2, 2014

OrangeMagicGod said:
After hours of reading and searching around and trying to follow what LordManhattan said.

I have the phone down to 523.

I now have the bootloader unlocked

Just not sure on the rooting of the phone..

With Flashtool can I simple press the Lock key and root it that way? I don't know the difference between Superuser or SuperSU

Or do I have to do it another way?

I have looked at a number of rooting options and am unsure what to do, one way the links on the guide didn't work others are little confusing!

The order you have done it in is just wrong, so wrong... But what's done is done

Now that the bootloader is unlocked just flash a 757 FTF and install jackie099's kernel http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2714511 and then flash SuperSu from recovery

Sadman Khan · May 3, 2014

Did you just skip backing up TA partition? Because if you did, that just defeats the purpose of downgrading

Sent from my C6802 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

OrangeMagicGod · May 3, 2014

Morning peeps,

No atm I stopped at unlocking the bootloader after the downgrade, I have tried to run the Backup-TA-9.10 app but it fails on detecting Root cause obviously mines not rooted.

So regarding backup am not sure what am supposed to do, as all threads seem to point to that you require root to backup o.0

blueether I have read so many threads my eyes feel like they are going to bleed, like my original post stated, it seems to be a loop I was getting stuck in.

I cant backup without root from all the threads comments

I cant root without backup for safety and bootloader unlocked, and to unlock bootloader it seemed I had to be a specific version namely 532 to unlock.

So I have got somewhere, instead of pulling my hair out going no where

I hope the way I have moved forward doesn't or hasn't caused any possible lose of keys etc, so the question is, how do I backup before trying the next step of root?

blueether · May 3, 2014

Read post 6 above, follow all the steps in tat order

Sent from CarbonROM on my Z-Ultra

OrangeMagicGod · May 3, 2014

Blue I was going to use the Binary link but cant figure out how to download it, it mentions in the post to ask members for a working link if you have difficulty.

Do you have one by chance?

Thanks!

blueether said:
Read post 6 above, follow all the steps in tat order

Sent from CarbonROM on my Z-Ultra

Speederoff · May 3, 2014

OrangeMagicGod said:
Blue I was going to use the Binary link but cant figure out how to download it, it mentions in the post to ask members for a working link if you have difficulty.

Do you have one by chance?

Thanks!

Hey dude, what's going on? .. have you successfully root yet?
Which step is you dont understand to ROOT? .

OrangeMagicGod · May 3, 2014

Done the downgrade!

2.Root using either [NUT]'s dual recovery or bin4ries tool - see thread in step above or LordManhattans guide

Its the above, gone to Bin4ries post, the links don't seem to download for me? so cant get the tool to do the root

3.Backup the TA - see LordManhattons guide - should be able to do that, its working to the point of seeing it's not rooted, so not worried about that part!

4.Upgrade to latest FTF

5.Unlock bootloader - Already done by mistake thinking it was done easiler :S

6.Root using jackies099's kernel

7....

The thing I have noticed as well atm which am slightly worried about, is my sim card says invalid atm, hoping that changes when it's all finished

Speederoff said:
Hey dude, what's going on? .. have you successfully root yet?
Which step is you dont understand to ROOT? .

Speederoff · May 3, 2014

OrangeMagicGod said:
Done the downgrade!

2.Root using either [NUT]'s dual recovery or bin4ries tool - see thread in step above or LordManhattans guide

Its the above, gone to Bin4ries post, the links don't seem to download for me? so cant get the tool to do the root

3.Backup the TA - see LordManhattons guide - should be able to do that, its working to the point of seeing it's not rooted, so not worried about that part!

4.Upgrade to latest FTF

5.Unlock bootloader - Already done by mistake thinking it was done easiler :S

6.Root using jackies099's kernel

7....

The thing I have noticed as well atm which am slightly worried about, is my sim card says invalid atm, hoping that changes when it's all finished

Lol, you shouldn't unlock bootloader =.=" if you only required ROOT =.=".
if you worried, flash stock rom and redo to root?

OrangeMagicGod · May 3, 2014

Well am confused and lost atm.

Point 2 and Point 6 to me, are they not the same thing?

Trying to carry out Point 2, I cant get any of the software it seems as I cant get the links to work

So atm I have a phone working but telling me my sim is "invalid card - no service" currently

Any help for links to the Nuts, or Binary software would be grateful

Speederoff said:
Lol, you shouldn't unlock bootloader =.=" if you only required ROOT =.=".
if you worried, flash stock rom and redo to root?

blueether · May 3, 2014

OrangeMagicGod said:
Well am confused and lost atm.

Point 2 and Point 6 to me, are they not the same thing?

Trying to carry out Point 2, I cant get any of the software it seems as I cant get the links to work

So atm I have a phone working but telling me my sim is "invalid card - no service" currently

Any help for links to the Nuts, or Binary software would be grateful

the sim/imei problem shouldn't have happened if you followed my guide, but dont worry, it will come back after step 4
for step to use http://nut.xperia-files.com/?dlid=WlUtbG9ja2VkZHVhbHJlY292ZXJ5Mi43LjEyMy1CRVRBLmluc3RhbGxlci56aXA= from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2647492 and follow the instructions in post 2

Step 2 is only so we can get a backup of the TA so that it is safe to unlock the bootloader

Step 4 when you update to the latest FTF you will lose root

Step 5 will allow you to get root any time you want without having to do the downgrade dance

Step 6 is needed because the stock kernel wont keep write access to the system. This step also re-installs recovery so that you can flash the superSU update binary

OrangeMagicGod · May 3, 2014

Hi Blue,

Feel like am getting my self further and further into the **** with this

I was able to find bin4ries tool after searching on the net for awhile, and used that as advised, which has worked and didn't seem to be a problem, the SU appeared etc.

I then did the Backup which again has gone fine.

I updated what I thought was the latest TFT C6833_14.1.b.2.257_euro-lte.ftf from one of the links but looking at the phones version am still showing 532

That's the stage am at with still the sim/imei issue

I have downloaded the link you have provided for the lockeddualrecovery looking at it, I get options to

1. installation on ROM rooted with SuperSU
2. "" "" " with SUperUser
3. installation on unrooted ROM
4. exit

at this stage am not sure what to do, as I thought getting all the other steps completed now would have solved this.

Think am starting to regretting trying this

and feeling like a total tool!

blueether said:
the sim/imei problem shouldn't have happened if you followed my guide, but dont worry, it will come back after step 4
for step to use http://nut.xperia-files.com/?dlid=WlUtbG9ja2VkZHVhbHJlY292ZXJ5Mi43LjEyMy1CRVRBLmluc3RhbGxlci56aXA= from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2647492 and follow the instructions in post 2

Step 2 is only so we can get a backup of the TA so that it is safe to unlock the bootloader

Step 4 when you update to the latest FTF you will lose root

Step 5 will allow you to get root any time you want without having to do the downgrade dance

Step 6 is needed because the stock kernel wont keep write access to the system. This step also re-installs recovery so that you can flash the superSU update binary

blueether · May 3, 2014

OrangeMagicGod said:
Hi Blue,

Feel like am getting my self further and further into the **** with this

I was able to find bin4ries tool after searching on the net for awhile, and used that as advised, which has worked and didn't seem to be a problem, the SU appeared etc.

I then did the Backup which again has gone fine.

I updated what I thought was the latest TFT C6833_14.1.b.2.257_euro-lte.ftf from one of the links but looking at the phones version am still showing 532

That's the stage am at with still the sim/imei issue

I have downloaded the link you have provided for the lockeddualrecovery looking at it, I get options to

1. installation on ROM rooted with SuperSU
2. "" "" " with SUperUser
3. installation on unrooted ROM
4. exit

at this stage am not sure what to do, as I thought getting all the other steps completed now would have solved this.

Think am starting to regretting trying this and feeling like a total tool!

OK so you are past step 3 now and you have a rooted phone with a backed up TA partition.

Step 4
You will want to flash https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B51NBUj0yr7FNmtzWlhrT2JaOU0&export=download with the lates flashtool from https://unrestrict.li/flashtool instructions are in LordManhattan's guide I think

Step 5
Unlock the bootloader - see LordManhattan's guide again

Step 6
Follow the steps in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2714511

OrangeMagicGod · May 3, 2014

Hi Mate,

So do I need to user the lockeddualrecovery still (going to assume not)

The link for the google doc doesn't work am getting an error trying to access it

I have the latest Flashtool installed and ready

blueether said:
OK so you are past step 3 now and you have a rooted phone with a backed up TA partition.

Step 4
You will want to flash https://docs.google.com/uc?id=0B51NBUj0yr7FNmtzWlhrT2JaOU0&export=download with the lates flashtool from https://unrestrict.li/flashtool instructions are in LordManhattan's guide I think

Step 5
Unlock the bootloader - see LordManhattan's guide again

Step 6
Follow the steps in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2714511

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