[REF][GUIDE] The Noob Helper - basic info about your sgs3 and flashing

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Cholerabob

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Try scrolling down the list :D

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Do i have the right version (5.0.1.1) ? Because this is what i have when scrolling all the way down.. Do i need to have the CWM file already on my phone ?

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Do i have the right version (5.0.1.1) ? Because this is what i have when scrolling all the way down.. Do i need to have the CWM file already on my phone ?

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I have 5.0.1.3 and the list looks like screenshot below. Try upgrading? If not that try clearing the app data for Rom manager and try again?



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Cholerabob

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Just upgraded to 5.0.1.3 and same thing... :( Uninstalled and reinstalled and same thing...hummmmm How do i clean the app data ?
 
Just upgraded to 5.0.1.3 and same thing... :( Uninstalled and reinstalled and same thing...hummmmm How do i clean the app data ?

Go into system settings, application manager, select the app, click the clear app data button. I hope that does it..otherwise, not sure what the problem is

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Cholerabob

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Go into system settings, application manager, select the app, click the clear app data button. I hope that does it..otherwise, not sure what the problem is

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Sigh... nope, still no S3 :( oh well , will do it the old fashion way manually. Do you need to have the premium app ?

Tried it again with update today and still no S3 , very strange. Tried contacting them but i can't find anything.
 
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Sigh... nope, still no S3 :( oh well , will do it the old fashion way manually. Do you need to have the premium app ?

Tried it again with update today and still no S3 , very strange. Tried contacting them but i can't find anything.

I've seen that a few people have this problem but have not seen a solution yet. If I see anything I'll let you know. Meanwhile try flashing manually.

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Wild Weasel

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coherent and comprehensive, will thank.

Also, yes, ROM manager does not work, at least the free version doesnt. Remove it from the OP, and add a new method for the sake of others.
 
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Virality

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First time rooting my phone. Upgraded to SGS3 from Droid X. Couldn't be happier... well I could if google wallet worked natively.

Anyway, just posting to say thanks, and to enable the thanks button to thank you properly for compiling this info.
 

brandon_bowers

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Havent rooted since captivate

I have not rooted since the captivate and vibrant days, so seeing this post was very refreshing to me.:D:D
I was aware of the IMEI issue before i flashed my rom, thankfully I saw that by chance. I was rooted on the stock rom with a secure kernel therefore i downloaded adb insecure from the market and that worked. You guys here are really helpful. :good:
 

xaznxplaya

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Hi guys,

I'm having the same issues as the person on the page before me, I'm not able to choose the S3 on the clockworkmod recovery. When trying to install it manually, I can't even browse to my file =S

PS: I still have that system recovery (3e) =S
 

NJRonbo

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Hi am new here!

Oh, I am certain some people don't want to hear questions from noobies when there is so much information already available to them.

Understand, I am a long-time iPhone user contemplating making the switch to a Galaxy S3. Doing so is very dependent on the ease of rooting.

With the iPhone, it took a single file (and under 5 minutes) to jailbreak the phone.

Looking over these instructions for the first time, totally not knowing the process of rooting, makes it seem quite difficult with many chances of something going wrong.

To top it off, I have a Mac. There are videos showing how to root the AT&T Galaxy S3, but the only ones that assure not tripping the flash counter (whatever that means) seem to be tied to rooting via Windows.

I am almost afraid to ask a question here because, yes, everything is spelled out in the first post. Hopefully someone will take pity on me and help me better understand the rooting process.

1. Are the instructions in the first post still applicable to the version of the Galaxy S3 I would be buying from AT&T this week?
2. Are there fool-proof instructions anywhere for someone on a Mac, which would also prevent any tripping of the flash counter?
3. Shouldn't the phone be backed up first before rooting? If something goes wrong, is there always a way of restoring to factory default? I want to make certain there is always a safeguard in place.

Really, for someone totally new to the Android way of doing things, this looks awfully complicated. I am certain, however, with a little help I can do this on my own. I have jailbroken my iPhone many times.

Good to be here.
 
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Hi am new here!

Oh, I am certain some people don't want to hear questions from noobies when there is so much information already available to them.

Understand, I am a long-time iPhone user contemplating making the switch to a Galaxy S3. Doing so is very dependent on the ease of rooting.

With the iPhone, it took a single file (and under 5 minutes) to jailbreak the phone.

Looking over these instructions for the first time, totally not knowing the process of rooting, makes it seem quite difficult with many chances of something going wrong.

To top it off, I have a Mac. There are videos showing how to root the AT&T Galaxy S3, but the only ones that assure not tripping the flash counter (whatever that means) seem to be tied to rooting via Windows.

I am almost afraid to ask a question here because, yes, everything is spelled out in the first post. Hopefully someone will take pity on me and help me better understand the rooting process.

1. Are the instructions in the first post still applicable to the version of the Galaxy S3 I would be buying from AT&T this week?
2. Are there fool-proof instructions anywhere for someone on a Mac, which would also prevent any tripping of the flash counter?
3. Shouldn't the phone be backed up first before rooting? If something goes wrong, is there always a way of restoring to factory default? I want to make certain there is always a safeguard in place.

Really, for someone totally new to the Android way of doing things, this looks awfully complicated. I am certain, however, with a little help I can do this on my own. I have jailbroken my iPhone many times.

Good to be here.

Hi ,

First of all, don't be afraid to ask questions if you are still confused after reading. It's the people who don't bother reading that waste everyone's time on these forums.

1. Yes these instructions are still applicable to any new s3 from at&t if you use a PC (Odin is PC only). Rooting on a Mac is a slightly different process indeed and one I plan to add to the OP, but you should find info on how with a little searching. Otherwise, you just need a PC for the initial flash, borrow one, or run Windows on your Mac using boot camp.
2. Don't worry about the flash counter as there is an app which can reset it for you: chainfire's triangle away app (look for it in the forums)
3. You can't backup without root access unfortunately. However, you can easily return to a stock phone by flashing the original image through Odin or mobile Odin. All you do is grab the original image.tar from these forums or from the samfirmware.com site and flash to be back to original untouched phone.

Hope this helps.

Ps, coming from an iPhone myself I promise this is no more complicated once you jump in :)

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NJRonbo

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Rast,

You are my new best friend.

I have asked for help on several forums and nobody wanted to respond.

I know there is a wealth of information out there, but sometimes you need someone to really hold your hand through the process.

Just bought the Galaxy S3 today. Will probably root it in a few days.

Expect to hear from me again in this thread.

Ron



Hi ,

First of all, don't be afraid to ask questions if you are still confused after reading. It's the people who don't bother reading that waste everyone's time on these forums.

1. Yes these instructions are still applicable to any new s3 from at&t if you use a PC (Odin is PC only). Rooting on a Mac is a slightly different process indeed and one I plan to add to the OP, but you should find info on how with a little searching. Otherwise, you just need a PC for the initial flash, borrow one, or run Windows on your Mac using boot camp.
2. Don't worry about the flash counter as there is an app which can reset it for you: chainfire's triangle away app (look for it in the forums)
3. You can't backup without root access unfortunately. However, you can easily return to a stock phone by flashing the original image through Odin or mobile Odin. All you do is grab the original image.tar from these forums or from the samfirmware.com site and flash to be back to original untouched phone.

Hope this helps.

Ps, coming from an iPhone myself I promise this is no more complicated once you jump in :)

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xaznxplaya

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I've rooted the device sucessfully but when come time to flash to CM10, it seems I don't have the most updated version. I flashed it two days ago but forgot what I did :(
 

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OK , here is a nub question.
I have rooted my ATT S3 and installed clockworkmod recovery. My question is, since I just read that samsung is sending JB to the S3 soon, is there a way to temporally turn root off so that I could download the new update. I hope this isn't to stupid of a question.
Thanks
 
I've rooted the device sucessfully but when come time to flash to CM10, it seems I don't have the most updated version. I flashed it two days ago but forgot what I did :(

I assume you are talking about clockwork mod version. Just open Rom manager and the top option should show you what version you have installed and what current version is. You can update to newest from within the program...

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OK , here is a nub question.
I have rooted my ATT S3 and installed clockworkmod recovery. My question is, since I just read that samsung is sending JB to the S3 soon, is there a way to temporally turn root off so that I could download the new update. I hope this isn't to stupid of a question.
Thanks

when the jb update comes out you will be able to download it from these forums and flash it through Odin or mobile Odin so I wouldn't worry about getting it through the ota update. Mobile Odin is especially practical for this kind of thing cause you can have it auto root when you install the update

If you really want to get it ota, flash a stock Rom through Odin and then get your ota...

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    Basic concepts, how-to'sThis thread is a work in progress. If you would like to contribute information or have ideas for what should be added please PM me.

    Disclaimer "just because i am trying to be helpful does not make me responsible for anything that you do to your phone. playing with any of this stuff could destroy your phone"

    I am not a dev, but I have been flashing on Samsung phones since the international S2 came out. I also spend a ton of time reading the forums and researching what I don't know. I would like to give back to the community in some way and I hope that this post can help the noobs not brick their devices, as well as keep them from being overly annoying to the members and developers here by posting in the wrong places and asking dumb questions.

    Some basic rules if you are a noob and don't want to turn your phone into a brick.
    1. be patient. don't be the first or even the tenth person to flash anything. wait until you see others using whatever Rom or kernel with success.
    2. If you have any doubts about what you are doing, read more. don't flash.
    3. make sure you are in the forum for your device, not some similar or related device.

    Some basic rules for these forums
    1. If you have a question, the first thing to do is look it up yourself. that means searching the forums first, then searching Google.
    2. If after searching you can't find an answer, then post in the q&a forum
    3. don't report bugs unless you are using an intact version of whatever Rom, if you have changed kernels, installed a ton of apps etc it probably isn't a bug, it's a bad combo or its you.
    4. don't report bugs unless you are 150% sure that no one has reported it yet.
    5. if you report a bug, make sure you can duplicate it first, then get a logcat of the problem so you can help (see below for logcat info)

    Why flash?
    by flashing your device you can make your phone act differently, look different, and enable new or disabled options. you could ,for example:
    enable native tethering
    enable call recording
    change the look of your phone
    add custom toggle buttons
    overclock or undervolt
    increase battery life
    etc..

    Kernel vs Rom vs Recovery vs Modem
    Kernel is the layer between the phone hardware and the rom. it controls things like Wi-Fi power, touch sensitivity, possible range of screen brightness, phone logging, and processor max and min speed. kernel must be designed not only for your device but also for the type of rom you are using (Sammy rom or Aosp) some kernels support all roms, others are specific.

    Rom is the operating system of your phone. there are three main categories of roms.
    roms that are based off of the Samsung stock rom (Sammy rom)
    roms that are based off of Android open source project aka AOSP (AOSP, AOKP)
    roms based off of the miui project (these used to be a branch of AOSP but recently they have also used Sammy base for miui)

    recovery is a partition that you can access at boot by holding down a combination of keys. (volume up and home button in the case of our sgs3) every phone has recovery stock but it doesn't do much. you can replace stock with clockwork mod recovery which is extremely useful for flashing all kinds of things and making backups before you do. There are other alternative recoveries besides clockwork but that seems to be the most common. TWRP is also gaining popularity these days, especially on the sgs3. You can easily switch between recoveries and or upgrade your current recovery. All that needs to happen is for a new image to be flashed onto the recovery partition. See the rooting guide for more info on how to flash a custom recovery.

    modem is a file that controls the cell radio of the phone. helps determine what frequencies to use and settings for a particular network. It is important when flashing a radio that you flash a radio that is for the AT&T sgs3 as flashing the radio from another carrier has been known to cause problems with the IMEI

    Methods for flashing files - Odin vs mobile Odin vs. clockworkmod(cwm) vs adb
    Odin is the internal Samsung tool for flashing. I believe it only exists on Windows platform. This tool is mostly used to initially flash an insecure kernel or rooted kernel, OR to return to completely stock rom. This tool can effect your flash counter (see below). Files for flashing in odin generally should end in .tar or .tar.md5 although sometimes they come zipped and the tar is inside the zip. Read more about Odin before using it as it can easily break your phone. !!!as a general rule make sure you never check the "partition" checkbox EVER!!!

    Mobile Odin is a phone based version of Odin made by the very talented developer Chainfire. It can be installed on a rooted phone and used to flash the same .tar based files as the desktop version. Mobile odin has a few advantages. 1 you can use it from your phone. 2 it does NOT effect the flash counter on your phone, 3 it can auto root a stock rom (nice if you want to try out a brand new update that has not been rooted yet)

    clockworkmod(cwm) is recovery based tool that can make backups of your entire phone, flash new roms, kernels etc.., and do many other useful tasks. Once you have this on your phone my guess is that most of your flashing will be done through this tool. The files for flashing through clockworkmod are .zip files. Clockworkmod will NOT effect your flash counter.

    ADB is the android develpment bridge. It allows for command line interface with your phone through it's debugging options. ADB can do most anything as I understand it. In my several years of flashing I have only had to use it once, and i could have waited for someone to come up with another solution. In general as a noob i recommend you stay away from ADB.

    open source vs Samsung based roms vs miui

    Open Source Roms such as AOSP/AOKP are built using Google's open source android code as a base. The developers then add functionality specific to the device. The advantages of these builds are that they often have tons of options built in to the rom that change the behavior and look of the phone. They usually allow you to change the toggles in your notification pull down, change the battery display, make all kinds of adjustments to sounds, vibration etc... Some people also prefer the "vanilla" android look and feel. These roms often provide "bleeding edge" concepts, design, and modifications. The Disadvantages of these roms is that some of the hardware coding is done closed source by the phone manufacturers, which means that things like bluetooth, camera, video recording, and MHL video out often don't work or take much longer to get working by the developers. Basically anything that relies on the Samsung framework will not work in an open source build. This means Svoice, Snote, and the Samsung camera app will not work.

    Samsung based roms are taken from the Samsung original phone software and modified by the developer. Usually, these roms are modified in order to be faster and to make changes to some of the features. Expect to see changes to the stock rom like: debloated (ATT and samsung software removed), de-odexed (explained later), enable tethering, unlimited sms recipients, added notification toggles, etc. Most of these changes are made to: make the phone faster, improve battery life, make the phone easier to theme. The advantage of these roms is that they still use the Samsung framework so all the proprietary stuff like camera, bluetooth, MHL still work, the disadvantage is that they will never be as customisable as open source roms.

    MIUI is a rom that focuses on theming. Official MIUI (Chinese) gets updated weekly on Friday and then there are lots of miui developers who adapt it to other languanges and make some tweaks to it. MIUI can be built from AOSP source or Samsung source and depending will have different features. The first MIUI rom for our phone just appeared in these forums and it is based off of AOSP. MIUI has a unique look and is also highly customizable through theming. There are tons of themes available for download through the rom itself and you can mix and match any part of any theme you want. This includes icons, lockscreen style, etc.. Some people criticize while others praise MIUI for being very "iphone like". This is because the icons look more iphone like and there is no app drawer in the MIUI launcher. However, you can still use any launcher you like within MIUI.

    odexed vs de-odexed
    odexed is how the phone comes stock from Samsung. Odexed means that system files and apps are split into two pieces and kept in different places on the phone. This is done to speed things up a bit. However, it makes it harder to theme the phone because the apps are split up. Most custom roms choose to de-odex (basically regroup the files back into one) so that custom themers can make themes more easily for the phone.

    download mode and recovery mode how to access
    (Copied from mskip and his toolkit thread here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1746665)

    How to get into Download Mode (For Odin)
    1. Unplug the USB cable.
    2. Shut down the phone.
    3. Hold down the 'HOME' + 'VOLUME DOWN' buttons and press the 'POWER' button for about 2 seconds until a WARNING! Screen appears. Press the 'VOLUME UP' button to enter Download Mode.

    How to get into Recovery Mode
    1. Unplug the USB cable.
    2. Shut down the phone.
    3. Hold down the 'HOME' + 'VOLUME UP' buttons and press the 'POWER' button for about 5 seconds to enter Recovery Mode.

    STEP BY STEP how to flash your phone for the first time

    A. get root
    first off, you need to gain access to the root of your phone. there are several ways to do this (thanks to all the talented devs).
    I recommend using mrRobinson's method as it will not trip the flash counter on your phone.

    1. you will need to have odin from here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1722686 remember to hit the thanks button, download and install odin.​

    2. Kies (on Windows, not on your phone), Samsung's sync program, can interfere with Odin. Either make sure Kies is closed and close it out of background processes using the task manager in windows...or better yet, uninstall it completely.
    3. make sure you have the proper samsung drivers installed. you can get the USB drivers directly from Samsung here: http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/SGH-I747MBBATT

    4. you need to download the right image from mrRobinson's thread. to find out which one hit the menu key from your home screen, select system settings, select about phone at the bottom, and look for the build. it should be either UCALEM or UCALG1. Once you know, go to mrRobinson's thread here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1739426 download the matching image, and dont forget to thank him.​

    STEPS 5-7 COPIED FROM mrRobinson's THREAD

    5. Extract the .tar file from the .7z file you just downloaded from the thread in step 4
    6. Put your phone into download mode (see how above)​

    7. Start Odin, connect your phone to your PC, you should see the box under ID:COM change color to show your device is connected. click on PDA and select the .tar file you just extracted. Hit the start button and wait for the file to flash to your phone. When done your phone will reboot automatically. One word of warning about Odin: DO NOT TOUCH THE CHECKBOXES!!! WHATEVER YOU DO>>DONT TOUCH THE RE-PARTITION CHECKBOX!!!!
    B. installing clockworkmod
    the next step is to get a working clockworkmod recovery on your phone instead of the default recovery. Again, there are many ways to do this and there are several different versions of CWM recovery available. I recommend using the one from Rom Manager as it seems to be compatible with most roms. Note that currently most versions of CWM can only see your internal SD card and not your external if you have one.
    1. Go to the Google play store and download Rom Manager (https://play.google.com/store/apps/...anager&feature=nav_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDNd)​
    2. Open Rom Manager app, flash clockworkmod recovery (first option), choose the appropriate phone..in this case galaxy s3 att, grant it superuser privileges, it should say install successful.
    NOTE: some users have reported not seeing the S3 ATT in the list of devices in Rom Manager...this is a bug and hopefully will be fixed. It may be that you need the purchased version instead of the free version for it to work? Not sure why this is but if it gives you trouble there are other ways to flash a recovery image. The next easiest way once rooted is to use the tool in this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1746665 from there you can flash both cwm or twrp whichever you prefer. Alternatively you could also use goo manager to flash TWRP link to goo here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.s0up.goomanager&hl=en

    C. Test out your new recovery and make a backup of your phone
    1. turn your phone off, then turn it back on while holding the Volume UP and home key. (more detailed instructions above) You should see Clockworkmod Recovery at the top.​
    2. Use your volume keys to navigate to the backup option and select backup, then wait for it to complete. You now have a backup of your phone you can restore to at any time.​

    D. downloading and flashing a new rom
    now its time to decide what rom to flash. when choosing a rom read the first post of the thread (the OP) carefully and take time to read through most if not all of the thread. At the very least go read the last 10 pages of the thread so you are familiar with any current issues people may be having. Once you have picked a rom:
    1. Download the rom you want to try​
    2. Make sure that the rom ends up on your internal SD card and that you know where it is​
    3. Get into CWM recovery​
    4. As a general rule it's a good idea to wipe data/ factory reset from CWM recovery (this will wipe all your data on the phone except any photos/videos you may have taken)​
    5. It is also good practice to wipe cache from CWM recovery​
    6. Lastly, from the advanced menu in CWM choose to wipe Dalvik cache​
    7. now go back out to the main recovery screen and choose "install .zip from SD Card" option and navigate to your rom, select it and confirm​
    note that a new rom may take longer to boot the first time.

    Flashing "dirty" vs flashing "clean"
    Clean
    Doing a clean install of a rom means erasing or formatting all the data from the previous rom before you flash the new one. This is the prefered way to flash a rom to ensure that it will run smoothly. It is necessary if you are switching from one rom type to another (CM to Samsung base). In order to do a clean flash you need to boot into recovery and select the following options: wipe user data (this wipes all apps and personal data, but not your photos/videos), wipe cache, advanced>wipe dalvik cache, storage/mounts>format system. This will ensure that no trace of the former rom is left on the phone. Beware that at this point your phone will not boot until you install a new rom. I suggest using titanium backup to backup apps and smsbackup+ for texts to make getting your new rom configured easy.
    Dirty
    Doing a dirty install means just flashing a new rom right over the top of the old one without wiping any data. The advantage to this is that you don't lose any apps or account info. The disadvantage is that you open up the possibility for problems. Generally you only want to flash this way if you are upgrading a rom (CM10 nightly to the next nightly, or from one samsung based rom to another). If you decide to flash over the top and have any issues, you should not report bugs, but try flashing clean first.

    backing up IMEI
    There have been some issues with people losing their imei number when flashing roms. *It appears to be limited to the old imei software version 2 but the evidence is not yet conclusive. *If you lose your imei, you will not be able to connect properly to the data network. *Luckily some devs have figured out how to re-inject an imei number into our phone and get it working again. *It is certainly a good idea to back up your imei info before flashing just to be on the safe side. *There seems to be two main threads dealing with backing up and restoring your imei. *you can check them out here:

    http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1801997
    http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1804117

    huge thanks go out to these devs for figuring this out!! as always make sure you thank them.
    I have yet to try either of these methods out myself so if one seems much easier or clearer please let me know.

    tethering (for stock Samsung based rom)
    you can use a mod to enable wifi tethering from your phone to up to ten other devices and share your data connection. If you are running a custom rom you probably already have this enabled and don't need it. It is already included in any AOSP roms also.

    Make sure that you use the version of the mod that is for your software version number (UCLEM or UCLG1 see beginning of rooting guide to figure out which one you are on).

    The original mod for UCLEM is here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1732262
    The mod for UCLG1 is here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1768826

    The Flash Counter
    The flash counter is an internal counter that ticks every time you install a non-samsung firmware through Odin. This allows Samsung or AT&T to see if the phone has been flashed with custom roms. custom recoveries such as Clockworkmod and TWRP as well as the mobile version of Odin DO NOT change the counter. Only flashing non-Samsung files through the desktop version of Odin does. You can see your flash counter when you enter download mode on your phone. Luckily, Chainfire has developed an app that allows this counter to be reset, so there is really little concern anymore about having the counter trip. If you do need to send your phone in for repairs, you will want to reset the counter and then flash an unmodified stock rom through odin to get your phone back to factory state.
    Link to Chainfire's app through this post here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1800878

    Logcat
    Logcat is a way to access the android system log for everything that is going on behind the scenes. This tool is used to help developers pinpoint problems in a rom. If you want to actually be helpful to a dev when reporting a bug, you should really learn to use this tool. I am no expert on logcat but you can find some good information in this post: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1726238

    APN settings
    This is the apn that comes on stock at&t phone. It allows you to connect to LTE as well as hspa+

    Name: ATT PTA
    APN: pta
    MMSC: http://mmsc.mobile.att.net
    MMS Proxy: proxy.mobile.att.net
    MMS port: 80
    MCC: 310
    MNC: 410
    Auth: none
    APN type: default,mms,supl,hipri

    NOTES BELOW ARE COMING SECTIONS. Feel free to pm me questions you would like to see answered or suggestions for other info:
    theming
    unlocking sim
    returning to stock
    What info is stored in each area: system, data, cache etc...
    4
    Looks good.
    Stuck
    FNM
    3
    Hi am new here!

    Oh, I am certain some people don't want to hear questions from noobies when there is so much information already available to them.

    Understand, I am a long-time iPhone user contemplating making the switch to a Galaxy S3. Doing so is very dependent on the ease of rooting.

    With the iPhone, it took a single file (and under 5 minutes) to jailbreak the phone.

    Looking over these instructions for the first time, totally not knowing the process of rooting, makes it seem quite difficult with many chances of something going wrong.

    To top it off, I have a Mac. There are videos showing how to root the AT&T Galaxy S3, but the only ones that assure not tripping the flash counter (whatever that means) seem to be tied to rooting via Windows.

    I am almost afraid to ask a question here because, yes, everything is spelled out in the first post. Hopefully someone will take pity on me and help me better understand the rooting process.

    1. Are the instructions in the first post still applicable to the version of the Galaxy S3 I would be buying from AT&T this week?
    2. Are there fool-proof instructions anywhere for someone on a Mac, which would also prevent any tripping of the flash counter?
    3. Shouldn't the phone be backed up first before rooting? If something goes wrong, is there always a way of restoring to factory default? I want to make certain there is always a safeguard in place.

    Really, for someone totally new to the Android way of doing things, this looks awfully complicated. I am certain, however, with a little help I can do this on my own. I have jailbroken my iPhone many times.

    Good to be here.

    Hi ,

    First of all, don't be afraid to ask questions if you are still confused after reading. It's the people who don't bother reading that waste everyone's time on these forums.

    1. Yes these instructions are still applicable to any new s3 from at&t if you use a PC (Odin is PC only). Rooting on a Mac is a slightly different process indeed and one I plan to add to the OP, but you should find info on how with a little searching. Otherwise, you just need a PC for the initial flash, borrow one, or run Windows on your Mac using boot camp.
    2. Don't worry about the flash counter as there is an app which can reset it for you: chainfire's triangle away app (look for it in the forums)
    3. You can't backup without root access unfortunately. However, you can easily return to a stock phone by flashing the original image through Odin or mobile Odin. All you do is grab the original image.tar from these forums or from the samfirmware.com site and flash to be back to original untouched phone.

    Hope this helps.

    Ps, coming from an iPhone myself I promise this is no more complicated once you jump in :)

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    vvelvetelvis,

    That is exactly the kind of help I was looking for.

    Going to try this today and hope I don't brick my phone.

    Here is the big question...

    With Jellybean around the corner, is it a good idea to do this now?

    Will I be able to upgrade to Jellybean with a phone that has a ROM?

    If not, are there instructions how to restore the phone to factory settings prior to installing a new OS update?

    unroot back to stock: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1728824

    whether or not you root know depends on if you want touch wiz. if you dont want touch wiz and just basically stock android then by all means root and get rid of all the bloat and touch wiz. be warned that you will lose all the camera stuff samsung has put in. thats the only thing i miss from touch wiz. also know that cm10 is still being perfected. you will see bugs and glitches. good luck to ya.
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    After spending a couple days as a new convert from iphone (of 4 years) to the GS3 on AT&T, I figured out how to Root and load CM10.
    What I am still confused about is how to load new nightlies. AS I understand, CM10 is not in final release, and they are constantly fixing issues in the rom with nightly releases.

    My question is how do I load new nightly ROMs. I believe if I use the same method when i first flashed the Rom, I'd lose everything and have to reload everything on my S3. That seems like a labor intensive process. I have downloaded Titanium Backup Pro, but for some reason I can t see the app in my drawer (thats another issue)

    same question here. i believe rom manager pro will let you do this but im not sure, so, i will wait for someone to answer this.

    Good question and something I will add to the OP:

    so, depending on the type of rom or the way that it is set up it may or may not wipe data automatically...most roms will not wipe your data (including CM10 won't wipe your data). The problem is that flashing one rom right over another sometimes works fine and other times it causes problems.

    Flashing directly over another rom is called flashing "dirty" vs doing a wipe of data, cache, dalvik cache, and system partition before flashing is called "clean" install. Flashing dirty will preserve all your apps, settings, etc where as a clean install will leave you with a blank slate system.

    Provided you are flashing an update to the same rom you are already on...(CM10 nightly from one night to next) you can try flashing "dirty" first to see if that works for you. If you flash dirty know this: don't report any bugs because you probably created them.
    You cannot flash dirty if you are switching roms, especially if you are switching from an AOSP to a Touchwiz rom...it will probably not even boot.

    the sure way to get a good rom install is to do the clean install. Boot into recovery, wipe user data, wipe cache, wipe dalvik cache, format /system

    in general, keep an updated backup of all your apps through titanium backup and backup your sms messages and call logs (apps in the store) that way if you do have to do a clean install you can easily restore apps and logs...you will still need to set up your system settings again.