Android 2.2 (FroYo) On HTC [03 Sep 2010] (V1.6)

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TheBrilliantMistake

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Hi TBM. It seems all the issues I encountered by tryin and tryin to install are caused by Android. Mean writting to much on the card kill it. Seems a year of testing Android is the maximum a µSD can suffer ;-)
Need a new µSD or maybe trying the build which run on ext2 part which is supposed to be less agresive for the flash memory.

Any idea about ext2 agressiveness or "repairing abilities"?

As far as I can tell, there's little difference.
SD Cards simply aren't supposed to be written to very often. In fact they even have READ limitations too... but it's the writing that tends to kill them in the end.
They 'degrade' over time but the end user rarely gets to see the degradation, it's all handled within the SD card.
I've been fortunate, and I've yet to experience any issue at all with a 4GB SanDisk, and an 8GB Transcend, but a number of other users have had problems.

Some are saying it's "killed' their card, whilst other are saying they managed to recover by formatting the card. Whilst MOST are not having any problems at all.
There are just too many variables to know for sure what the issue is for sure. There could even be very minor hardware differences between one Blackstone and another.

I would say this much though...

a) Never install this on a card that 'matters' or alongside data that's important to you. You can do it, but if you lose it, then you have yourself to blame.
b) Don't 'rely' on XDAndroid. Some folks are claiming to use it all day. It's not stable enough for that sort of usage. WinMo is 10 times more stable and power efficient than XDAndroid. Real Android is quite good, but XDAndroid has a long way to go.
 

jeanfrederic

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As far as I can tell, there's little difference.
SD Cards simply aren't supposed to be written to very often. In fact they even have READ limitations too... but it's the writing that tends to kill them in the end.
They 'degrade' over time but the end user rarely gets to see the degradation, it's all handled within the SD card.
I've been fortunate, and I've yet to experience any issue at all with a 4GB SanDisk, and an 8GB Transcend, but a number of other users have had problems.

Some are saying it's "killed' their card, whilst other are saying they managed to recover by formatting the card. Whilst MOST are not having any problems at all.
There are just too many variables to know for sure what the issue is for sure. There could even be very minor hardware differences between one Blackstone and another.

I would say this much though...

a) Never install this on a card that 'matters' or alongside data that's important to you. You can do it, but if you lose it, then you have yourself to blame.
b) Don't 'rely' on XDAndroid. Some folks are claiming to use it all day. It's not stable enough for that sort of usage. WinMo is 10 times more stable and power efficient than XDAndroid. Real Android is quite good, but XDAndroid has a long way to go.

Hi.
As you say, I only use an old 1Go µSD for XAndroid, and I wont try my second 8Go SD I keep for WinMo.
Anyway, i tried to recover the 1Go by creating a new FAT16 partition with Linux.
It seems it is running normally now and am trying to install the v2.2 on it but...
The install went verry fast, with some error messages, but i got the desktop screen just after 1 minut or so, then black screen!
Gonna reboot to see what happens then and come back.
 

hwoarang626

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my blackstone android freeze when i try to enter market ,, all the androids that i used give me the same problem ,, can you please tell me what im doing wrong pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
 

veehexx

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@hwoarang626 - tried deleting 'data.img' on the root of the SD card?
just beware, this will wipe all user customizations (ringtones, wallpapers)
 

zero0007

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ha, just noticed - no voicemail notification either!
So I stumble upon my answer phone and hola, so many new messages!

:))
 

tamnteh

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i installed android on my blackstone... the question is, how i want to transfer my winmo contact to android contact? search over the internet, but all steps have to pay. i would like try the free step. anybody could help me? tq.
 

men-saap

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my findings on android for blackstone

First of all thanks for the immense effort of the developers. I really appreciate the work and i hope i will be able to give my blackstone a second life one day.

For now:
* Installation flawless
* 1st boot, i never managed to boot from the first time not with 2.1 or 2.2. the first time I boot for some reason or another it never boots completely and crashes somewhere along the boot highway. Although after several tries it boots up after all
* While booting. Sometimes it hangs on the sd card with the well known message waiting for sd card. Sometimes it doesn't and boots up fine. Anyway after a few tries, it always boots.
*While booting. Sometimes it gives endless read errors instead of waiting for sd card and never boots up. And sometimes it gives read errors but boots anyway... followed by a very unstable android.
* Once booted, sometimes i can work for a few hours with android, mostly it crashes within minutes, not depending on what kind of activity i do with the phone, it appears to be random crashes. I tried to recreate the problems, but never could find a series of actions that certainly crashes my phone.
* Waking up from sleep mode is sometimes difficult but i always manage to wake it up in the end.
* Android processes crashing randomly giving messages that it has crashed, terminated.

Some thoughts... is my sd card nearly dead and is that why my android is so unstable? I didn't have any problems with it in wm until now.

Any thoughts? Do I bother buying a new sd card? Or is that what daily use of android on blackstone is like?
 

dubelt

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it really works ;) it is my first android load.

1. sd must have at least 700-900MB of free space.
2. had few crashes (hangs) during first boots, entering market etc.

what is the difference between normal and overclocked mode? is it possible to change mode without reinstall?
 

Ghannes

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hi,

i'm using this rom for a day now on my BS. Works quite nice although the screen seems to be misalligned sometimes. When a press 4, it took 2.

Keep up the good work!
 

zero0007

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i installed android on my blackstone... the question is, how i want to transfer my winmo contact to android contact? search over the internet, but all steps have to pay. i would like try the free step. anybody could help me? tq.

in WM sync your contacts via Google exchange and then in droid sync it again so they will get copied over...
 

hwoarang626

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Sep 18, 2007
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First of all thanks for the immense effort of the developers. I really appreciate the work and i hope i will be able to give my blackstone a second life one day.

For now:
* Installation flawless
* 1st boot, i never managed to boot from the first time not with 2.1 or 2.2. the first time I boot for some reason or another it never boots completely and crashes somewhere along the boot highway. Although after several tries it boots up after all
* While booting. Sometimes it hangs on the sd card with the well known message waiting for sd card. Sometimes it doesn't and boots up fine. Anyway after a few tries, it always boots.
*While booting. Sometimes it gives endless read errors instead of waiting for sd card and never boots up. And sometimes it gives read errors but boots anyway... followed by a very unstable android.
* Once booted, sometimes i can work for a few hours with android, mostly it crashes within minutes, not depending on what kind of activity i do with the phone, it appears to be random crashes. I tried to recreate the problems, but never could find a series of actions that certainly crashes my phone.
* Waking up from sleep mode is sometimes difficult but i always manage to wake it up in the end.
* Android processes crashing randomly giving messages that it has crashed, terminated.

Some thoughts... is my sd card nearly dead and is that why my android is so unstable? I didn't have any problems with it in wm until now.

Any thoughts? Do I bother buying a new sd card? Or is that what daily use of android on blackstone is like?


that is EXACTLEY MY PROBLEM ,, thank you
 

Avalun

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Feb 2, 2009
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hi, I have that speed-android installed on a ext2 partition on the SD Card. so if I want try this version, do i have to remove the partition again, or can I install it on that partition too?
 

khurr

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I have problem with https with the built-in browser.
Anyone else?
When Im using appbrain it will logon to my google account(https) via the builtin browser.
 
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    Android on your Windows Mobile HTC Device...
    Supports Blackstone, Diamond, Diamond 500, Fuze, Raphael, Raphael 800, Rhodium, Tilt 2 & Topaz

    This thread is dedicated to FroYo, and NOT Eclair releases!

    First things first, this post is PURELY an instruction guide for noobies that aims to reflect the latest status and downloads (give or take a day).
    I am not an Android developer, I do not create any of this software... this is done by far more talented people than I. This thread is purely to collate the latest info for Android on Windows Mobile HTC devices and make deploying Android on your device as simple as possible.

    If you have new information that should be added to the guide (and is relevant for ALL folks) then feel free to add to the thread and I'll update the OP frequently.


    These opening few posts should have ALL the latest info you need to get started (no need to trawl through the threads).
    The only time you 'might' need to look in the thread is for 'breaking news' info that is no more than a day old...i.e. The Opening Post is the place!


    Credits: There are too many to mention, and many are unknown, but basically the guys poring Android to our devices should be thanked, along with all those making the effort to help others test, document, or use their work (along with those who provide answers to the same questions, time and time again). These are the guys who deserve the credit. From memory...
    osamaa,
    babijoee,
    phhusson,
    herpez
    scanny
    klinux
    Oliwe
    and many more



    What's New?
    Latest Update: 03 Sep 2010 (V1.6)
    • InitRD - 20100813-b11116a
    • Rootfs - 20100828-c29a486
    • System - XDAndroid 2.2.AOSP.3.9.10.RC.2.2
    • Kernel - 20100830_01302 (no debugging)
    • Headset support - Credits to Oliwe
    • 3D support for Blackstone/Diamond/Raphael (Rhodium/Topaz have no 3D)- Credits to Oliwe
    • Gallery working - Credits to Oliwe
    • Touchscreen Calibration is back! During first clean install, touch each of the five calibration points CAREFULLY to calibrate your screen before installation completes. Plus, general touchscreen fixes and power off support - Credits to Oliwe
    • Back to basics System... stock Android system.
    • Takes about 5 mins usage before the system starts to speed up, so expect it to be a little sluggish for the first 5 mins.
    • None 3D devices may not show boot screen, so please be patient during install (screen will show black)
    • I'd advise that once installed, you also launch SpareParts, and configure the window animations etc to 'fast'
    • There is a chance that after installation, some Startup.txt settings MAY be incorrect for your device. If you discover any mistake, PLEASE let me know, I will correct asap. I need your help on this guys.


    How To Install (CAB Version)
    • Step 1 - Prepare your SD Card
      Find a nice clean SD card to load Android on.
      You can either format your card to get it entirely clean, or you can leave all the files you may already have on there.
      *Warning* - If you have valuable data on your card, back it up. Android is usually safe, but if you can't afford to lose the data on your card, don't risk it!
      Some cards have difficulty working, there is a POSSIBILITY this is due to the formatting of the card. If in doubt, format to FAT32, not FAT16

    • Step 2 - Download and install the CAB
      Download and install the following 'full package' cab (a collection of ALL the files you'll need to run Android on your device) by clicking the XDAndroid Cab button below.



      You MUST install on the Storage Card. The cab file will take a couple of minutes to install Android. Please be patient.

      For those that are interested the cab files does the following:
      - Installs Android in the root of the SD Card
      - Deploys the correct Startup.txt for the device (the user can choose their device type)
      - Adds a high res icon for Android in the root of the SD Card
      - Installs a shortcut in Program Files named "Android" (launches Haret.exe)
      - Installs the high res icon in the registry for WM6.5 users


    • Step 3 - Run Android
      Android is now installed... So launch 'Android' from your Program Files menu in WinMo. Your phone should reboot into Android with 2 quick vibrations.
      Have patience... the first time you do this can take a LONG time (3 mins or more). During the first boot on SOME devices, you will be asked to calibrate the screen. This is very similar to Windows Mobile screen calibration (except it's in text mode).
      The reason the first boot takes longer is that Android is 'preparing' your device for the first time. :)

    How To Install (ZIP Version)
    • Step 1 - Prepare your SD Card
      Find a nice clean SD card to load Android on.
      You can either format your card to get it entirely clean, or you can leave all the files you may already have on there.
      *Warning* - If you have valuable data on your card, back it up. Android is usually safe, but if you can't afford to lose the data on your card, don't risk it!
      Some cards have difficulty working, there is a POSSIBILITY this is due to the formatting of the card. If in doubt, format to FAT32, not FAT16

    • Step 2 - Download and extract the ZIP
      Download and install the following 'full package' zip(a collection of ALL the files you'll need to run Android on your device) by clicking the XDAndroid zip button below.



      You MUST unzip to the ROOT of the Storage Card. The zip file will take a short while to extract. Please be patient.


      Once you've extracted the zip:
      - Click Auto-Setup.exe to configure XDAndroid for your particular device


    • Step 3 - Run Android
      Android is now installed... So launch 'Android' from your Program Files menu in WinMo. Your phone should reboot into Android with 2 quick vibrations.
      Have patience... the first time you do this can take a LONG time (3 mins or more). During the first boot on SOME devices, you will be asked to calibrate the screen. This is very similar to Windows Mobile screen calibration (except it's in text mode).
      The reason the first boot takes longer is that Android is 'preparing' your device for the first time. :)


    If you want to exit Android and go back to Windows Mobile, then you need to shut down / reboot. To do so with the latest Android releases, hold down the 'end call' button until you see a menu appear.
    If this fails to work, then the only option is remove the battery or press the reset button.



    Known Issues
    Many things are still not working properly, and the developers are fully aware of 99% of them.

    • SDCard - Most SDCards are working, but if you the 'waiting for SDCard' message, you should try one of these fixes (and please let us know if it works)
      Fix 1: Format your card with this tool http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter/
      Fix 2: Edit your startup.txt file and add these entries to your cmdline:
      set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmts_calib=0x395.0x3c9.0x79.0x77 clock-7x00.a11=500 msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 gsensor_axis=-2,-1,3
      msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave
      "

      Fix 3: Tell your wife / girlfriend that you are about to make some modifications to her phone... change the ringtone and steal her old Class 2 SD Card to use with Android. She will never discover what you have done, and if she does, you'll be able to use Android to send texts to your former girlfriends ;-)
    • SDCard - A few users have claimed to have had trouble using their SD Cards after installing XDAndroid. Some of those have reformatted the SD Card, and it worked, some couldn't recover it. This is a minority of users, but be warned.
    • Camera - Not working
    • GPS - working
    • Battery Status - Highly problematic for most users (don't trust the capacity Android tells you, it's simply up and down a lot, and highly inaccurate)
    • WiFi - Working for most people, suspected to cause slight heat, definitely drains the battery faster than WinMo.
    • Audio - Speaker working for most people, microphone can have issues
    • Deep Sleep - Working for most people, but can have issues waking up (sometimes, it will not wake up)
    • GPRS - Working
    • 3G - Working for most
    • PIN Code - Unknown
    • GSensor - Working (Screen only handles 0 and 270 degrees)
    • Bluetooth - Experimentally working (don't expect too much, but it's working for a number of users)
    • OpenGL ES - 'should' be working but only for Blackstone... more to follow soon
    • USB - Supported, but will NOT operate in mass storage mode. You can charge via USB and you can debug, but forget accessing your files by it.
    • Headphone Socket - Semi working (see FAQ for details on how to make it work)
    • Application Errors: It's very common to see 'Application (xxxxxx) is not responding: Force Close or Wait'. Click wait. I do not know the precise reason for this, but from what I can gather, it COULD be related to the slow speed of the SD Card causing the app response times to JUST be a little too slow for Android's liking, thus causing the message. This seems to happen more after bootup or wakeup when the device is busy doing stuff in the background.
    • Cannot choose ringtones: This is believed to be caused by the media scanner failing (due to discovering some filenames with none English characters). The best option of all is to use a CLEAN SD Card. But, if you insist on hosting other files on the same SD Card, you MUST make sure they have English character filenames.
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    for all those having problems with this build there are two newer builds out here they are
    this is the full package
    DoWnLoAD

    this is the newest build
    DoWnLoAd

    Remember if you do the full package reformat sd card. if you are using the newest build delete data.img and modules.tar.gz and replace with new modules.tar.gz and zimage android will build a new data.img on boot
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    Hi,
    Here is what I've done:
    After Formatting to fat32 and copying the content of both zips I still needed a startup.txt for my blackstone, so I took one from the startup configs of the 2.2V1.6, but I wonder, since android freezes after a few moments, is it the right thing to do? :confused:

    Here is its content, should it work with this last build?

    set ramsize 0x10000000
    set ramaddr 0x10000000
    set mtype 2030
    set KERNEL zImage
    set initrd initrd.gz
    set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmts_calib=0x395.0x3c9.0x79.0x77 clock-7x00.a11=528 msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 gsensor_axis=-2,-1,3 msm_blackstone_pad.vibrate=1"
    boot

    If this is not right then what should be the best "startup.txt" for non-overclocked Blackstone ?

    I've tried with the startup.txt that came with the first zip, same results.

    Here is what my startup.txt looks like for those who need one the download is below just edit out the andboot out of downloaded one

    set ramsize 0x10000000
    set ramaddr 0x10000000
    set mtype 2030
    set KERNEL zImage
    set initrd initrd.gz
    set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmts_calib=0x395.0x3c9.0x79.0x77 clock-7x00.a11=528 msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 gsensor_axis=-2,-1,3 msm_blackstone_pad.vibrate=1 lcd.density=240 msmts_calib=0x395.0x3c9.0x79.0x77 clock-7x00.a11=500 msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 gsensor_axis=-2,-1,3 msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave"
    boot

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    maybe a strange question but will this be updated?
    last update is from september
    i want to put this on touch pro 2 but if a update is coming soon i will wait for it:p

    Here is the latest build 12-18-10

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    See above your post. I do have a copy of both if you think you still need/want it.
    :cool: