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As the user above me said, you can use the camera to take pictures. It will make video encoding too when NVIDIA will release the drivers for tegra 2. I am running now the NOVA HD Rom with spica's HP kernel. It is working silky smooth and I recommend it! :)
 

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My phone has never been so freaking good as it is now, such a good flow! it's really fast. I'm really impressed how well ICS is made. Once all phones get this, the iPhone won't stand a chance. Freakin love it.
 

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Once all phones get this, the iPhone won't stand a chance. Freakin love it.
LMAO. Really? Do you really believe your own comment? One thing I will say about Apple. At least iOS users aren't wondering if and when the next update comes, whether or not whey will get it for their device. Apple make the requirements clear, and if your device meets those requirements, you are good to go.

We only have ICS because of the goodwill of some talented people. Kudos to the CyanogenMod team. Nvidia suck's.

Have fun. Anil
 

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LMAO. Really? Do you really believe your own comment? One thing I will say about Apple. At least iOS users aren't wondering if and when the next update comes, whether or not whey will get it for their device. Apple make the requirements clear, and if your device meets those requirements, you are good to go.

We only have ICS because of the goodwill of some talented people. Kudos to the CyanogenMod team. Nvidia suck's.

Why does nVidia suck? Is it because they do not make their code publicly available? Because, afaik, if you follow this train of thought then Apple should suck at least the same as nVidia, with all their proprietary BS.
 

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Why does nVidia suck? Is it because they do not make their code publicly available? Because, afaik, if you follow this train of thought then Apple should suck at least the same as nVidia, with all their proprietary BS.
I followed your train of thought and I ended up in a dead end, with no HD camcorder functionality. Because in your world, Nvidia write the ANDROID operating system, and get nothing for free. Whereas Apple gets iOS for free, and make proprietary BS. And, they seem to be selling that BS by the millions. 3 milion in one weekend for the latest turd. Thank the Linux gods Google bought Motorola Mobility.

Be careful not trip over anything in that dead end. Anil

PS. My sincere apologies to others for responding to the quoted post. I'm not having a bad day, and the weather is great here in Italy. :)
 

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Worry not, I have a proper Panasonic camcorder for HD recording.

Keep enjoying that HD camcording feature in a mobile phone in "your" world. Image quality will never ever come close to a proper camcorder, no matter if it has an "HD" label or not.

PS. Just because something sells by the millions it doesn't mean it's good. Take a look at the music industry... ;)
 
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Worry not, I have a proper Panasonic camcorder for HD recording.

Keep enjoying that HD camcording feature in a mobile phone in "your" world. Image quality will never ever come close to a proper camcorder, no matter if it has an "HD" label or not.

PS. Just because something sells by the millions it doesn't mean it's good. Take a look at the music industry... ;)

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Worry not, I have a proper Panasonic camcorder for HD recording.

Keep enjoying that HD camcording feature in a mobile phone in "your" world. Image quality will never ever come close to a proper camcorder, no matter if it has an "HD" label or not.

PS. Just because something sells by the millions it doesn't mean it's good. Take a look at the music industry... ;)

Which model of Panasonic camcorder? I have an older DV tape Panasonic and want to replace it. Are you satisfied with yours?
 

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Which model of Panasonic camcorder? I have an older DV tape Panasonic and want to replace it. Are you satisfied with yours?

I'm a sucker for good price/quality ratio (and if you have an O2X I believe you are too), so with that in mind I am very happy with it. I have an HDC-SD80, image quality is fantastic, I would say unbeatable for that price. Just the autonomy isn't that great, you can barely record for more than 1 hour, so you will have to buy an extra battery if you need more than that.

PS: Have we gone off-topic or what?? :D
 

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Worry not, I have a proper Panasonic camcorder for HD recording.

Keep enjoying that HD camcording feature in a mobile phone in "your" world. Image quality will never ever come close to a proper camcorder, no matter if it has an "HD" label or not.

PS. Just because something sells by the millions it doesn't mean it's good. Take a look at the music industry... ;)

That's not really the point though and the same argument could be made for GPS, music player and pretty much every other feature that doesn't include texting or calling. I'm sure you don't take your camcorder everywhere. I'm not a big camcorder guy but I would like to have the opportunity to use it when I need to.
 
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That's not really the point though and the same argument could be made for GPS, music player and pretty much every other feature that doesn't include texting or calling. I'm sure you don't take your camcorder everywhere. I'm not a big camcorder guy but I would like to have the opportunity to use it when I need to.

Exactly! So what is the point?

It was said that O2X buyers don't have HD recording because of nVidia. Well, whatever you say no mobile phone has HD recording, if you ask me. What's the point of having a resolution of 1080p if the quality of the pixels are utter crap? I'd rather have 480p with acceptable quality than the 1080p of a mobile phone, so that argument is completely not valid for me.

So what's the point?

Non-nVidia phones are better because they have HD recording? Puleez... If you want to make an HD video don't use your mobile phone period, get a proper camera. Unless having a video with a lot of horrible quality pixels floats your boat...
 

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That's not really the point though and the same argument could be made for GPS, music player and pretty much every other feature that doesn't include texting or calling. I'm sure you don't take your camcorder everywhere. I'm not a big camcorder guy but I would like to have the opportunity to use it when I need to.
Hi larma, perhaps LarsPT can check the weather, or send an email, or send a WhatsApp message to a friend for free on his HD camcorder? No? I didn't think so.

Any idiot can buy a HD camcorder, but it doesn't mean you are Martin Scorsese. Give our phone to Mr. Scorsese, and I guarantee he will make a better movie than LarsPT and his HD camcorder.

Just a thought. Anil
 

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Hi larma, perhaps LarsPT can check the weather, or send an email, or send a WhatsApp message to a friend for free on his HD camcorder? No? I didn't think so.

Any idiot can buy a HD camcorder, but it doesn't mean you are Martin Scorsese. Give our phone to Mr. Scorsese, and I guarantee he will make a better movie than LarsPT and his HD camcorder.

Just a thought. Anil

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't make a movie with the wonderful photography of his latest movie 'Hugo' though! This is where you fail to understand that even if two different devices (an HD camcorder and a mobile phone for example) can record at the same resolution (1080p for example) this doesn't mean, not even close, that they will have the same picture quality.

And buddy, I can check the weather, send an email and send a WhatsApp message just fine with my Tegra device, without the HD recording :)

And I can still record videos with the same crappy quality, HD or not, with it. If I really want image quality, I use a proper device for it.

The difference between the "idiot" that buys the HD camcorder is that he can see past the marketing BS. He understands that megapixels aren't everything. He understands that an 8 Megapixel camera in a phone is nowhere near an 8 Megapixel Canon SLR, for example.
 
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Exactly! So what is the point?

It was said that O2X buyers don't have HD recording because of nVidia. Well, whatever you say no mobile phone has HD recording, if you ask me. What's the point of having a resolution of 1080p if the quality of the pixels are utter crap? I'd rather have 480p with acceptable quality than the 1080p of a mobile phone, so that argument is completely not valid for me.

So what's the point?

Non-nVidia phones are better because they have HD recording? Puleez... If you want to make an HD video don't use your mobile phone period, get a proper camera. Unless having a video with a lot of horrible quality pixels floats your boat...

I thought the point was pretty obvious. You take your mobile everywhere. If it's supposed to have "HD recording", then the feature should work. It's that simple and I can't understand how anyone can refute that. I don't care if it doesn't hold up to camcorders, it's not supposed to. It's just supposed to work when I see something I want to capture.
 
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I thought the point was pretty obvious. You take your mobile everywhere. If it's supposed to have "HD recording", then the feature should work. It's that simple and I can't understand how anyone can refute that. I don't care if it doesn't hold up to camcorders, it's not supposed to. It's just supposed to work when I see something I want to capture.

Very well larma. With what you say I can agree. However, when you buy an O2X everything that it's supposed to work with the stock ROM works as advertised. Well, at least for my case it did. Nevermind people who got a faulty equipment.

Now, when you flash a custom ROM, you are aware things might be broken. It's your problem, it's not nVidia's problem. Our friend Anil here seems to believe that it is. And for that reason, he also states that nVidia sucks.

He gave no explanation whatsoever as to why he has that opinion, but since we are talking about ICS not having hardware acceleration in our device because it is Tegra powered, I'm thinking it is because they don't release their code. Hence I jokingly said that, in that case, apple must suck as bad, as everything in apple is proprietary.

Mister Anil went on to defend apple products, or so it seemed, by saying everything works as expected (as in my LG stock product) and people are not expecting for updates or whatever (as I was not in my stock O2X, since everything worked as expected).

So I end up still not getting the point.

Yes, a lot of people still are flashing ICS on their O2X's, even though they lose HD recording. Why? Because HD recording was probably not there to begin with. For you HD recording might be making a video with a very crappy 1080p resolution, but for those people that knowingly accept this compromise HD recording might be something that is not something they do with their mobile phone, so they have nothing to lose.
 
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lars/larma> You also have to consider that what is important to you, isn't what is important for everyone. If anil wants the HD recording, it would be great to have it, it's a major feature of the phone regardless of whether you guys consider it crap or not. His annoyance is just misdirected, give him some grace in that respect.

Now, back on topic eh? ;-)
 
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    I got a free wifi pass at my hotel so I thought let's do a quick read through xda.
    I read the 30 new pages in this thread as well, do you think I need psychological help? :D


    Anyways, as someone else (mustangtim) wrote about it in the G2x section I can finally write it without some stupid hints here as well:
    Ricardo has a fully working P990 CM10 version (yes, with hwa). He got an earlier su660 ics dev leak directly from LG, even before leaks were on their server.
    The leak was a little different though, he was able to boot with the kernel.
    Long story short: jb runs great. He can't release it as he can't damage his good relationship to LG, I think you can understand that - so don't bug him about it.
    I'm just writing this to answer the people who have doubts.
    We will get cm10 as soon as the su660 kernel source drops. And it does run great on our hardware.


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    Hello everyone.

    I have seen the tweets from LG Canada posted here and since then those tweets have propagated through out other web outlets but I think way too much has been made of the LG Canada ICS update statement. The OP either did not understand the context of the statement or just had a "I'm the first to get an official answer from someone at LG" moment and got a little excited posting the info. So I thought I would give some insight into the statement so people, particularly worldwide, can understand what is going on and why that statement came from LG Canada.

    In Canada phones are sold through carriers. There are no companies that sell unbranded phones, well there are small shops that import phones but their sales are so small that they are not worth noting and they are almost considered grey market as they will not support the phones officially. Since there are no unbranded phones in Canada the carriers control the availability of a phone model which also means they control the updates to their branded model. If the carriers are not interested in supporting the phone it does not get any support period. There are Galaxy Nexus owners still on 4.0.1 when using carrier updates!

    Now specifically to the Optimus 2x in Canada. The phone was not that popular and was really only picked up by carriers to use the "first dual core phone" LG marketing hype to make them look like they are cutting edge. From what I remember the phone was only picked up by three carriers. Two AWS carriers (which are small players) Mobilcity and Wind, and one major carrier Rogers which put it under their "budget" sub-brand Fido. Mobilicity dropped the phone quite awhile back so they are out of the picture. Wind has recently EOL the phone and they did not even bother with the GB update so they are out. That leaves Fido.

    Fido did get the GB update but never shipped the devices with the GB update. I got my 2x in March and it still had Froyo on it. My guess is Fido had not reordered stock from LG since after the GB update so that is quite awhile ago. The only way to get the upgrade is if the customer does it themselves via LG tools. This should give you an indication of how many they are selling and how well they support the device. :rolleyes: While Fido still offers the 2x they recently dropped the price which usually means they are trying to get rid of their stock before they discontinue the device so they are 2/3 out. Carriers are not interested in spending time/money updating devices they are either not selling or about to stop selling. They want to sell new phones hopefully with new/renewed plans. Updating a phone could cost them a sale. This is not LG's behavior but the carriers.

    When a phone is banded by a carrier usually the carrier sends the specs (boot animations, artwork, network configs, apps to included, etc.) to LG and LG preps a ROM build which is put on the phone at shipping for the carrier. Since all the phones in Canada are branded and none of the carriers are requesting an update LG Canada does not need to consult LG HQ about the standing of ICS for the 2x. My feeling is When the LG rep on Twitter was asked the question they looked up the status of the 2x with the carriers. The status probably mentioned that there is "no future orders" and no request for ROM updates. That made it safe for the LG Canada rep to say on Twitter that there will be no ICS updates for the Canadian 2x. The rep did not contact LG HQ about the ICS update. Basically the LG Canada's statement is not based on technical reasoning but market reasoning.

    What these means for us Canadians is that we are out of luck for an official carrier branded ICS update. We can now add carriers to the nVidia / LG list of people to ***** about for the lack of an ICS update. Our only option is to go with an unofficial ROM but quite frankly the carrier ROMs suck. The ROMs created by the XDA community are far superior and I would have gone with an unofficial ICS build anyways. From what I understand as long as one country gets an ICS build the drives can be used to build general ROMs that Canadians can use. From observation the 2x is still popular in other areas. I think if there is an update the first will probably be Korea. I would say look there for more accurate information.

    TL;DR version:

    1. LG Canada does not control updates in Canada, the carriers do.

    2. The carriers have either dropped or are in the process of dropping the 2x thus the carriers are not interested in updates.

    3. LG Canada was able to safely give an official statement about the 2x Canada at this time based the carriers not wanting an update, not based on technical information from LG HQ.

    4. LG Canada statement should not be viewed as an early indicator of LG's general position on the ICS update for the 2x. This is not a leak.

    I hope that explains the situation better and how to read the meaning behind the LG Canada tweets. For people who have been using the LG Canada statement as "ZOMG this is the beginning of the end, EVERYONE PANIC!!! LG SUCKS!" fodder, and that includes you tech bloggers reading this, please stop and understand the situation. LG may still not deliver an ICS update but this is not the sign that it is not coming. Look else where.

    Also people stop assaulting the LG Canada feed with questions about your country or LG world wide. I know that LG Canada seems to be the only one responding to questions but LG Canada can only speak for the situation in Canada which as outlined is somewhat unique. Bug your own country LG reps as that might yield more interesting information for everyone.

    I will also mention that I think people are being really impatient with LG. Many companies are still in the process of updating their own devices from the same generation to ICS and last I heard only around 10% of devices have ICS or JB. I agree people should be pissed with LG because of LG's failure to live up to their promises (which BTW if they don't deliver could be grounds for a class action suit) but LG is not unique in anyway with their lateness of ICS updates. If anything I think LG trying to be the first one with a dual core, LG likes to be the first at things to keep up appearance i.e. dual core, 3D, LTE, etc., and in that rush probably either pressured nVidia to pump out a rushed chipset or nVidia offered them a first gen chipset to beat everyone. As such to make the commitment technical details probably were not completely sorted out thus we have a unpopular first gen chipset that most manufactures skipped over and nVidia doesn't want to waste much time on.

    That being said I do believe that an ICS update will eventually come from LG but this is my last LG device.

    Good first post ? ;)
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    Once RC releases the initial cm10 in the github for p990, I would suggest all kangers/rom devs don't just use RCs stuffs before RC even releases cm10 officially for p990.

    Don't repeat same mistake as per p970.

    I don't represent all but this is my personal opinion.
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    ICS Camera HAL for P990/SU660

    this is a ICS camera HAL for P990/SU660.

    based on Raviprasad V Mummidi for Qcom camera
    https://github.com/rapmv78/android_hardware_qcom_camerahal

    tested on the SU660 (Optimus 2X model in Korea)

    Please see also:
    - [Dev] ICS Camera Driver Development by zivan56 @ xda: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1379368
    - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=20281617&postcount=17
    - https://github.com/Andromadus/android_hardware_qcom_camera

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    It is needed to revert "MemoryHeapBase: Save and binderize the offset"
    commit f24c4cd0f204068a17f61f1c195ccf140c6c1d67
    It break binary compatibility of libbinder.so with CM7/GB.

    https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/f24c4cd0f204068a17f61f1c195ccf140c6c1d67

    and some simple wrapper functions are needed (please see libui.patch included in the attached tarball)
    like as
    Code:
    extern "C" status_t _ZN7android7Overlay13dequeueBufferEPPv(void* buffer)
    {
        return NO_ERROR;
    }

    camcoder(video encoding) does not work now :)
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    I'm surprised there isn't a port of LG's SU660 ics stock rom.

    There are, Kostja_V's and Harsh's rebuilds.

    I got some time over the weekend.
    If arcee won't release CM10 I will play around with the Stock ROM.
    I already repacked (read: decluttered) the ROM to fit it into the stock system partition, I'd only need to compile a new kernel which uses the old bootloader and have to check the partition stuff.
    If it works as expected you won't have to use nvflash to change the partition layout anymore - a simple CM10 flash would be enough.



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