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Final decision

My final decision: I won't support Jelly Bean...

  • No space: P500 has 190MB for system partition. We have to delete dictionaries+wallpapers if we want to install rom+gapps. Removing dictionaries can't be acceptable.
  • Cache problem: There is not enough /cache. Dalvik-cache fills all cache... So, you can't use browser, you have to free cache everytime.
  • Hardware problem. QCOM abandoned armv6. No hardware support for msm7x27. Display drivers (hwcomposer, liboverlay) supports > armv7. Audio drivers rewritten by me, but we have video problem. Video H/W support abandoned fully in JB. Maybe, video recording can't be run anymore.
  • Our hardware doesn't support triple buffering, so no Project Butter for you. VSYNC on slows down the navigation.
  • No Google Now for you, there isn't enough space...

If we can't use jb features, there is no sense to develop it. IMO, ICS is the final android for P500... ICS and JB almost have the same user interface.

Thats all.
 
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hephappy said:
My final decision: I won't support Jelly Bean...

  • No space: P500 has 190MB for system partition. We have to delete dictionaries+wallpapers if we want to install rom+gapps. Removing dictionaries can't be acceptable.
  • Cache problem: There is not enough /cache. Dalvik-cache fills all cache... So, you can't use browser, you have to free cache everytime.
  • Hardware problem. QCOM abandoned armv6. No hardware support for msm7x27. Display drivers (hwcomposer, liboverlay) supports > armv7. Audio drivers rewritten by me, but we have video problem. Video H/W support abandoned fully in JB. Maybe, video recording can't be run anymore.
  • Our hardware doesn't support triple buffering, so no Project Butter for you. VSYNC on slows down the navigation.
  • No Google Now for you, there isn't enough space...

If we can't use jb features, there is no sense to develop it. IMO, ICS is the final android for P500... ICS and JB almost have the same user interface.

Thats all.
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Wow, this comes like a bolt from the blue.
 
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hephappy said:
My final decision: I won't support Jelly Bean...

  • No space: P500 has 190MB for system partition. We have to delete dictionaries+wallpapers if we want to install rom+gapps. Removing dictionaries can't be acceptable.
  • Cache problem: There is not enough /cache. Dalvik-cache fills all cache... So, you can't use browser, you have to free cache everytime.
  • Hardware problem. QCOM abandoned armv6. No hardware support for msm7x27. Display drivers (hwcomposer, liboverlay) supports > armv7. Audio drivers rewritten by me, but we have video problem. Video H/W support abandoned fully in JB. Maybe, video recording can't be run anymore.
  • Our hardware doesn't support triple buffering, so no Project Butter for you. VSYNC on slows down the navigation.
  • No Google Now for you, there isn't enough space...

If we can't use jb features, there is no sense to develop it. IMO, ICS is the final android for P500... ICS and JB almost have the same user interface.

Thats all.
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Well, a big THANKS to you, adfad666, lupohirp and other devs for really maximizing the potential of our phones.

I guess we need someone like andy572 (real big shame that he abandoned phoenix rom) to really maximize gingerbread(without depending on cm7)

On the other hand, i saw this commit in a galaxy ace kernel https://github.com/dragonnn/firekernel-ace/commit/caae4aaaa8ecf7f6d68fcbd2ab48c7a4721caa5f#diff-8

Is it the "triple buffering" that JB wants or not (frankly I don't think it is)?
 
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hephappy said:
My final decision: I won't support Jelly Bean...

  • No space: P500 has 190MB for system partition. We have to delete dictionaries+wallpapers if we want to install rom+gapps. Removing dictionaries can't be acceptable.
  • Cache problem: There is not enough /cache. Dalvik-cache fills all cache... So, you can't use browser, you have to free cache everytime.
  • Hardware problem. QCOM abandoned armv6. No hardware support for msm7x27. Display drivers (hwcomposer, liboverlay) supports > armv7. Audio drivers rewritten by me, but we have video problem. Video H/W support abandoned fully in JB. Maybe, video recording can't be run anymore.
  • Our hardware doesn't support triple buffering, so no Project Butter for you. VSYNC on slows down the navigation.
  • No Google Now for you, there isn't enough space...

If we can't use jb features, there is no sense to develop it. IMO, ICS is the final android for P500... ICS and JB almost have the same user interface.

Thats all.
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:crying:
Thanks you!:D
time to by new smartphone with armv7 :/
I like this phone
 
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hephappy said:
My final decision: I won't support Jelly Bean...

  • No space: P500 has 190MB for system partition. We have to delete dictionaries+wallpapers if we want to install rom+gapps. Removing dictionaries can't be acceptable.
  • Cache problem: There is not enough /cache. Dalvik-cache fills all cache... So, you can't use browser, you have to free cache everytime.
  • Hardware problem. QCOM abandoned armv6. No hardware support for msm7x27. Display drivers (hwcomposer, liboverlay) supports > armv7. Audio drivers rewritten by me, but we have video problem. Video H/W support abandoned fully in JB. Maybe, video recording can't be run anymore.
  • Our hardware doesn't support triple buffering, so no Project Butter for you. VSYNC on slows down the navigation.
  • No Google Now for you, there isn't enough space...

If we can't use jb features, there is no sense to develop it. IMO, ICS is the final android for P500... ICS and JB almost have the same user interface.

Thats all.
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no one can be suprised by that since JB is meant for armv7...

but thanks for tryng you and all others devs.....
 
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hephappy said:
My final decision: I won't support Jelly Bean...

  • No space: P500 has 190MB for system partition. We have to delete dictionaries+wallpapers if we want to install rom+gapps. Removing dictionaries can't be acceptable.
  • Cache problem: There is not enough /cache. Dalvik-cache fills all cache... So, you can't use browser, you have to free cache everytime.
  • Hardware problem. QCOM abandoned armv6. No hardware support for msm7x27. Display drivers (hwcomposer, liboverlay) supports > armv7. Audio drivers rewritten by me, but we have video problem. Video H/W support abandoned fully in JB. Maybe, video recording can't be run anymore.
  • Our hardware doesn't support triple buffering, so no Project Butter for you. VSYNC on slows down the navigation.
  • No Google Now for you, there isn't enough space...

If we can't use jb features, there is no sense to develop it. IMO, ICS is the final android for P500... ICS and JB almost have the same user interface.

Thats all.
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I agree with Hephappy
of course you are free to compile your own builds, but do not expect support.
Of course we already expected this would be the case.
 
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hephappy said:
My final decision: I won't support Jelly Bean...

  • No space: P500 has 190MB for system partition. We have to delete dictionaries+wallpapers if we want to install rom+gapps. Removing dictionaries can't be acceptable.
  • Cache problem: There is not enough /cache. Dalvik-cache fills all cache... So, you can't use browser, you have to free cache everytime.
  • Hardware problem. QCOM abandoned armv6. No hardware support for msm7x27. Display drivers (hwcomposer, liboverlay) supports > armv7. Audio drivers rewritten by me, but we have video problem. Video H/W support abandoned fully in JB. Maybe, video recording can't be run anymore.
  • Our hardware doesn't support triple buffering, so no Project Butter for you. VSYNC on slows down the navigation.
  • No Google Now for you, there isn't enough space...

If we can't use jb features, there is no sense to develop it. IMO, ICS is the final android for P500... ICS and JB almost have the same user interface.

Thats all.
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Totally in favour of your decision. There is no sense in compiling jb for p500. Hardware limitations are a lot. :(

Sent from my LG-P500 using Tapatalk 2
 
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u.bindal

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hephappy said:
My final decision: I won't support Jelly Bean...

  • No space: P500 has 190MB for system partition. We have to delete dictionaries+wallpapers if we want to install rom+gapps. Removing dictionaries can't be acceptable.
  • Cache problem: There is not enough /cache. Dalvik-cache fills all cache... So, you can't use browser, you have to free cache everytime.
  • Hardware problem. QCOM abandoned armv6. No hardware support for msm7x27. Display drivers (hwcomposer, liboverlay) supports > armv7. Audio drivers rewritten by me, but we have video problem. Video H/W support abandoned fully in JB. Maybe, video recording can't be run anymore.
  • Our hardware doesn't support triple buffering, so no Project Butter for you. VSYNC on slows down the navigation.
  • No Google Now for you, there isn't enough space...

If we can't use jb features, there is no sense to develop it. IMO, ICS is the final android for P500... ICS and JB almost have the same user interface.

Thats all.
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@Hephappy, as you have taken your decision on not going withcm10, can we expect for further update of cm9 from you..??

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Sorry for offtopic!
Dear developers for P500:p
Please try do work JB for P500!
I know hardware is weak but please try :D
 
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darkmatthew said:
Sorry for offtopic!
Dear developers for P500:p
Please try do work JB for P500!
I know hardware is weak but please try :D
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they already did, read (and understand) what hephappy said, maybe it boots but there is no point in having JB if we wont have full features plus ICS is pretty much the same as JB.

If devs decided not to continue to work on JB respect their decision.

Thank for your hard work devs :good:
 
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hephappy said:
My final decision: I won't support Jelly Bean...

If we can't use jb features, there is no sense to develop it. IMO, ICS is the final android for P500... ICS and JB almost have the same user interface.

Thats all.
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@Hephappy,
We all totally understand.And thanks a lot for trying all these days for cm10...
It's almost been 20 days since tinystream rc1 was releasedby you..
And now cyanogenmod released rc2 for cm9...
Can a expect a update from you in coming date...??
 
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hephappy said:
My final decision: I won't support Jelly Bean...

  • No space: P500 has 190MB for system partition. We have to delete dictionaries+wallpapers if we want to install rom+gapps. Removing dictionaries can't be acceptable.
  • Cache problem: There is not enough /cache. Dalvik-cache fills all cache... So, you can't use browser, you have to free cache everytime.
  • Hardware problem. QCOM abandoned armv6. No hardware support for msm7x27. Display drivers (hwcomposer, liboverlay) supports > armv7. Audio drivers rewritten by me, but we have video problem. Video H/W support abandoned fully in JB. Maybe, video recording can't be run anymore.
  • Our hardware doesn't support triple buffering, so no Project Butter for you. VSYNC on slows down the navigation.
  • No Google Now for you, there isn't enough space...

If we can't use jb features, there is no sense to develop it. IMO, ICS is the final android for P500... ICS and JB almost have the same user interface.

Thats all.
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crap... atleast we got it booting thats a feat itself
 
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I will release a new rom on September.

I released rc1 5-7 days ago, before rc2 released. There is nothing new except "ascending ringtone".
If you want to be happy, edit build.prop or download a arjen's nightly rom.

Furthermore, CM team has been focused on CM10, so don't except new things for ics (at least 2 months).
 
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