is this a hard brick? Can you recover from this once the sbf firmware for 4.4.2 is released?
Thanks, it wasn't me but it was another poster and he was not able to access stock recovery. He said he could get into fastboot mode, but didn't get the android with the red triangle, it just shows the moto boot logo and goes back into fastboot mode with this message :you should still be able to access stock recovery through the bootloader menu and reflash the update:
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23329332407573403
Thanks, it wasn't me but it was another poster and he was not able to access stock recovery. He said he could get into fastboot mode, but didn't get the android with the red triangle, it just shows the moto boot logo and goes back into fastboot mode with this message :
Partition (recovery) Security Version Downgraded
Boot up failed
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2657262&page=2
Ther error message sounds to me like once you upgrade the partition table to 4.4.2, it won't let you into 4.4 recovery since it is a lower version?
yeah, seems like Motorola just keeps making these updates less and less hackable.ah yeah, just read the thread, that kinda sucks. recovery version has never been an issue before iirc.
yeah, seems like Motorola just keeps making these updates less and less hackable.
I went the CLNR route with my GNex for hardware problems and I eventually ended up with one that was significantly better than the one I sent in. But it took me 5 to get there. Lots of the AMOLED screens were blue or yellow tinted in the CLNRs.
ah yeah, just read the thread, that kinda sucks. recovery version has never been an issue before iirc. well the fxz should be available pretty quickly; i'd be surprised if it isn't availalbe some time next week. i'd way rather wait for that than send in the phone and deal with tech support and refurbished devices.
this is also one of the reasons i never take ota; always wait for the fxz. then you can update just what you need: boot, system, and radio. i'm running 4.4 boot system and radio with every other partition still on 4.2.2. works fine and i always have the option to downgrade if i want to for whatever reason.
What is a dd?what would be really helpful for those who are bricking is someone with fully stock rooted 4.4.2 doing a dd of the recovery partition. then bricked users could fastboot the recovery to their devices and reinstall the update.
4.2.2 pre-camera or post-camera update?i'm running 4.4 boot system and radio with every other partition still on 4.2.2. works fine and i always have the option to downgrade if i want to for whatever reason.
What are the advantages of sticking with that bootloader version rather than the 4.2.2 post-camera bootloader? It's too late for me as I took the 4.4 OTA before I found this site but I am curious to know.
What are the advantages of sticking with that bootloader version rather than the 4.2.2 post-camera bootloader? It's too late for me as I took the 4.4 OTA before I found this site but I am curious to know.
Thanks, but if you are on 4.2.2 pre-camera initial release, what is there to downgrade to? Just trying to understand all of this.Nothing in particular other than the ability to downgrade and/or cross flash other firmware. For most people it's not a big deal because they'll never want to do this stuff.
Thanks, but if you are on 4.2.2 pre-camera initial release, what is there to downgrade to? Just trying to understand all of this.
Ok got it. The later versions of the partition table and bootloader just lock your phone down more; they don't do anything to enhance user experience.gpt and motoboot are irreversible once flashed. gpt is the partition table that contains the security levels of the other partitions and motoboot contains the security level for gpt that is checked at boot time. usually there's no reason to upgrade them because it prevents you from being able to flash partitions that have a lower security level than what they specify.
Thanks, that says it all. Next time I get a new phone I won't upgrade those!bottom line is, there's no reason to upgrade them unless you don't mind limiting your choices.
Ok got it. The later versions of the partition table and bootloader just lock your phone down more; they don't do anything to enhance user experience.
i am running 4.4 boot, system, and radio. all other partitions, i.e. fsg, gpt, logo, and motoboot, are still the initial release versions.
gpt and motoboot are irreversible once flashed. gpt is the partition table that contains the security levels of the other partitions and motoboot contains the security level for gpt that is checked at boot time. usually there's no reason to upgrade them because it prevents you from being able to flash partitions that have a lower security level than what they specify.
i'm not sure whether it matters as much with an unlocked bootloader, as being unlocked allows you to flash whatever you want, but gpt is still irreversible. so once gpt is upgraded, it may still prevent you from downgrading or crossflashing partitions with a lower security level than specified.
bottom line is, there's no reason to upgrade them unless you don't mind limiting your choices.
Exactly. The forum "helpers" are getting off a bit too much on all the "help" they provide people.Finally the post that makes it ALL CLEAR!!! My eyes are watering from all the reading of this forum I have done in fear of angering forum helpers :laugh: but there was nothing like this post before (unless I missed it)
Thanks, but if you are on 4.2.2 pre-camera initial release, what is there to downgrade to? Just trying to understand all of this.
Ok got it. The later versions of the partition table and bootloader just lock your phone down more; they don't do anything to enhance user experience.
i am running 4.4 boot, system, and radio. all other partitions, i.e. fsg, gpt, logo, and motoboot, are still the initial release versions.
gpt and motoboot are irreversible once flashed. gpt is the partition table that contains the security levels of the other partitions and motoboot contains the security level for gpt that is checked at boot time. usually there's no reason to upgrade them because it prevents you from being able to flash partitions that have a lower security level than what they specify.
i'm not sure whether it matters as much with an unlocked bootloader, as being unlocked allows you to flash whatever you want, but gpt is still irreversible. so once gpt is upgraded, it may still prevent you from downgrading or crossflashing partitions with a lower security level than specified.
bottom line is, there's no reason to upgrade them unless you don't mind limiting your choices.