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neo4uo

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I just received an email from Google and hopefully this means the SDK release is on the horizon.

The Chromecast team is hosting a two-day hackathon for developers to test-drive the upcoming release of the Google Cast SDK. Our engineers will be available to share changes from the developer preview, discuss best practices, and answer any questions.

Event Details:
Date: December 7-8, 2013
Location: Googleplex, Mountain View, CA

Registration is a two-step process. Anyone can register, but as we can only accommodate a limited number of attendees, priority will be given to those developers who have experience with the Google Cast Preview SDK. Please sign up before November 25, 2013.

Thanks for your support!

- The Chromecast team

Engadget just released an article and from what I read we might start seeing some more apps in a month. If you get a chance hop over here
http://feedly.com/k/1aAFkoj
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bubbleguuum

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I will believe it when I see the first independent app with Chromecast support released and approved by Google...
 

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I definitely hope to see that happen in the near future! On a related note, any chance of getting BubbleUPnP to work with rooted Chromecast's running KyoCast, since it allows custom server-side white-listing, by @Kyonz?

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I'm waiting to see what is going to happen with that hackathon event, the SDK, whitelisting.
If there's nothing concrete before January, I'll release a version of BubbleUPnP that works with KyoCast.
I know it sounds like an eternity but it is as painful for developers than it is to users (totally left in the dark).
 

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I'm waiting to see what is going to happen with that hackathon event, the SDK, whitelisting.
If there's nothing concrete before January, I'll release a version of BubbleUPnP that works with KyoCast.
I know it sounds like an eternity but it is as painful for developers than it is to users (totally left in the dark).

Totally understandable. No rush on your part, I was basically wanting to know your thoughts on it. Thanks for the response!

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Any hope of root on newer CCs once we have the SDK?

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neo4uo

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I believe after this hack a thon having root or not might not matter anywho. It might just open the flood gates to a variety of apps. I also read an article that Andy Ruben is heading up a new project to replace Google TV. Google TV has been a fail and I think the chromecast is just the tip of this new project that will come early next year. I will try to find the article. No matter whether you agree or disagree give it till the first of the year and will see a clearer future of the chromecast.

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From I understand, SDK release is the least of the problems. I'm betting most of the people we would want to have access to it do (Like Koush)

it's the Whitelisting that we need to see go away, if that happens the floodgates will open for Chromecast!

I'm hopeful that with the SDK being available they will HAVE to remove the whitelisting so the Devs who have the SDK can test their code.

And in regards to Koush's G+ post about Mirroring, If it's in the AOSP it won't be long before we see Custom Roms implement it even if the Manufacturer doesn't (provided it doesn't require any Kernel rewriting.).

So as far as I'm concerned it's a good day for Chromecast.
 
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it's the Whitelisting that we need to see go away, if that happens the floodgates will open for Chromecast!

Yes the whitelisting is the real issue. Unfortunately I think it is going to stay with Google having god powers on who lives and who dies.
Or in short, pulling an Apple.
 

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Yes the whitelisting is the real issue. Unfortunately I think it is going to stay with Google having god powers on who lives and who dies.
Or in short, pulling an Apple.

Maybe but I don't see how that is practical from a management POV...Are they going to add every project a Dev (they have given SDK access to) has created to the whitelist so he can test and work?

Seems much easier thing to manage via the Play Store itself or via a Blacklist as opposed to a Whitelist.

Unless the SDK comes with some DevMode unlocker for a unit that bypasses the whitelist it would be impossible to develop apps wouldn't it?
And if they had that in the SDK then you know it wouldn't take long for that to get out to the masses and defeat the whole purpose and plan of the whitelisting.

I agree it might stay for as long as the SDK is Invite only but once it goes public that whitelist kind of has to go away with it.

As I see it the problem won't be google but the content producers/providers refusing to support it the way they avoided support on GoogleTV. (even broke it in some cases)

Where Google may have to Apple us is on Apps that might make those content provider apps work despite their wishes against it.
But still a whitelist isn't manageable to stop that, a Blacklist maybe but not a whitelist.
 

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I think they really don't have a choice. It's got to remain somewhat locked down, otherwise they won't get studio support

Just look at windows media center for example and a counterpart xbmc.. Xbmc will NEVER get full cablecard support because it's open source.


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I think they really don't have a choice. It's got to remain somewhat locked down, otherwise they won't get studio support

Just look at windows media center for example and a counterpart xbmc.. Xbmc will NEVER get full cablecard support because it's open source.


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Well that has more to do with the Cable Company contracts with the networks than the Studios truth be told. It does VARY based on the studio however, Some shows the Network has the right to give, other shows (like Sports) they do not.
Thats why some shows are blacked out on those Cable Company Apps and will never be available via the Network provided apps either.

I'm in the TV Business and I can tell you it is a wet mess right now. Has no idea what it wants to be. It wants the extra views because it knows it can hook you into watching the shows you might have missed but it still wants to make money off the Cable companies subscriptions and STILL makes the majority of it's money via Advertisement. None of which is conducive to Net or Streaming.

Truth is they are LESS concerned with you seeing the product (or How) as they are with being able to TRACK how many saw it so they can keep those other business models rolling in dough. If they can track you they can count you as Viewers which brings up the Ad Dollars when it's time to sell.
 

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    I just received an email from Google and hopefully this means the SDK release is on the horizon.

    The Chromecast team is hosting a two-day hackathon for developers to test-drive the upcoming release of the Google Cast SDK. Our engineers will be available to share changes from the developer preview, discuss best practices, and answer any questions.

    Event Details:
    Date: December 7-8, 2013
    Location: Googleplex, Mountain View, CA

    Registration is a two-step process. Anyone can register, but as we can only accommodate a limited number of attendees, priority will be given to those developers who have experience with the Google Cast Preview SDK. Please sign up before November 25, 2013.

    Thanks for your support!

    - The Chromecast team

    Engadget just released an article and from what I read we might start seeing some more apps in a month. If you get a chance hop over here
    http://feedly.com/k/1aAFkoj
    Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk
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    I definitely hope to see that happen in the near future! On a related note, any chance of getting BubbleUPnP to work with rooted Chromecast's running KyoCast, since it allows custom server-side white-listing, by @Kyonz?

    Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

    I'm waiting to see what is going to happen with that hackathon event, the SDK, whitelisting.
    If there's nothing concrete before January, I'll release a version of BubbleUPnP that works with KyoCast.
    I know it sounds like an eternity but it is as painful for developers than it is to users (totally left in the dark).
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    I am just glad they are moving forward. There has been some negative newbcakes on here stating it will stay like it is. At least there is light at the end of the tunnel.

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    Haven't seen any news out from the Hackathon yet, maybe they have signed NDA not to mention anything today or during the hackathon.

    If anyone spots anything, report back :)
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    I think they really don't have a choice. It's got to remain somewhat locked down, otherwise they won't get studio support

    Just look at windows media center for example and a counterpart xbmc.. Xbmc will NEVER get full cablecard support because it's open source.


    Sent from my XT926 using Tapatalk

    Well that has more to do with the Cable Company contracts with the networks than the Studios truth be told. It does VARY based on the studio however, Some shows the Network has the right to give, other shows (like Sports) they do not.
    Thats why some shows are blacked out on those Cable Company Apps and will never be available via the Network provided apps either.

    I'm in the TV Business and I can tell you it is a wet mess right now. Has no idea what it wants to be. It wants the extra views because it knows it can hook you into watching the shows you might have missed but it still wants to make money off the Cable companies subscriptions and STILL makes the majority of it's money via Advertisement. None of which is conducive to Net or Streaming.

    Truth is they are LESS concerned with you seeing the product (or How) as they are with being able to TRACK how many saw it so they can keep those other business models rolling in dough. If they can track you they can count you as Viewers which brings up the Ad Dollars when it's time to sell.