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gustavogibb

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Feb 23, 2010
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Eodun,

Thanks again for regarding my problem...

I've just put the build that you told me on my phone, but the problem remains... I'm starting to think that the problem is that "piece" that uses the phone...lol...
No progress yet...

I'll keep trying on that build the lot of thing that I did with the former one...

thanks for everything!!!
 

meltwater

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Hi Guys,

Does anyone know of a good guide which explains what each part of an Android build consists of. I'm trying to learn how these things fit together:

i.e.
froyo x ginger blackstone contains the following:

DIRS
AndroidApps - ok I understand this one!
conf
files - contains both APK apps, modules gz files and zImage files (I guess get copied to the storage space for use
media - audio & images for themes etc

FILES
haret.exe - bootloader app
STARTUP.TXT - start up script (device specific)
ts-calibration - calibration file for screen setup (can be removed to trigger recal)

initrd.gz
modules-2.6.27.46-01276-g6a6a1c1.tar.gz - contains a series of KO files (which are?)
rootfs.img
system.ext2 - as far as I can this is the top level of android (i.e. the build), with the lower level bits handled by the other files
zImage

No doubt this info is somewhere but there are a lot of places it could be.
I'll keep looking and post what I find:
How to cook android

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=7961112&postcount=14
system.ex2 will be mount as /system, where android files located
data.img will be mount as /data, where user data located
initrd.gz, linux boot from here.
rootfs.img in some roms, the initrd.gz boot up will load this file, and mount this file as /, and main boot files are here. if you don't have this file, the main boot config files are in initrd.gz.
 
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jbiton

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Radio version ??

Actually am having problems when receiving calls; can't hear the caller, that lead to ask, whether there is preferable radio for android or not, I think it does depend, correct me please.
 

g3rm0

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Feb 20, 2010
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Hope this helps ;)
meltwater said:
DIRS
AndroidApps - ok I understand this one!
conf - additional config / custom shell commands
files - contains both APK apps, modules gz files and zImage files (I guess get copied to the storage space for use
media - audio & images for themes etc

FILES
haret.exe - bootloader app
STARTUP.TXT - start up script (device specific)
ts-calibration - calibration file for screen setup (can be removed to trigger recal)

initrd.gz - initial RAM disk (needed to boot Linux)
modules-2.6.27.46-01276-g6a6a1c1.tar.gz - Linux kernel modules (i.e. drivers that can be loaded at runtime)
rootfs.img - root filesystem (usually contains files essential for system boot)
system.ext2 - as far as I can this is the top level of android (i.e. the build), with the lower level bits handled by the other files
zImage - Linux kernel image
 
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gustavogibb

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Feb 23, 2010
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Finally!!!

Hi Guys!

After searching, chasing, searching and searching again, I've finally found a sd card that works with Android. Since now, that problems that I told you didn't happened anymore...I still don't know the reason to android work with ony type of card instead another, but I'll keep trying to figure it out.

The working card is:

SanDisk "HC"
Class "4"
4GB
Made in China

I hope it could help someone around one day...lol

I'd like to thank all the people that spent a piece of time to try to help me with the issues and I'd like too to put myself able to test some new things on Blackstone that you all may need!!

thanks again!!!

Stay in peace!
 

koiranos

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Hello all! As a newbie, I have some questions that I want to ask.

1. Do I have to install a rom to my blackstone (like energy) in order to be able to run android from my sd card?

2. Is there a thread or a wiki page with installation instructions (for android)?

Sorry if you have heard this questions before but I'm kind of lost in the threads:D

Thanks in advance
 

Hakim Rahman

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Hello all! As a newbie, I have some questions that I want to ask.

1. Do I have to install a rom to my blackstone (like energy) in order to be able to run android from my sd card?

2. Is there a thread or a wiki page with installation instructions (for android)?

Sorry if you have heard this questions before but I'm kind of lost in the threads:D

Thanks in advance


-to guide instlalasi android on htc Blackstone can you see in the WIKI
 

arvis1234

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Jan 14, 2010
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Ogre, Kegums, Keguma nov.
Hi, problem is about battery drain on Android, how i can fix that problem, on windows mobile my battery working about 2 - 3 day's if i use gps or music internet then 1 - 2 day's, anyone know how i can fix that?
 

arrrghhh

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What happened with NAND ROM for Blackstone ?

No developers to work on it seemingly. ACL is working on it for RHOD, which in time will get pretty stable hopefully. A developer with a Blackstone should get in touch with him if they want to try and get the Blackstone working under the same principle.
 

philiphoh

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Just wondering is there any android full os for HTC HD .. I mean by fully flashing off windows & run 100% on Android... thanks in advance for info
 

raptus84

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Any news on compatibility?

Hello everyone, I'd like to know if there is a stable version of an Android cwm rom (I think that's the only best way to get it now)... If so, what issues still remain?

Thank you all :)
 

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    Android on your Windows Mobile HTC Device...
    Supports Blackstone, Diamond, Diamond 500, Fuze, Raphael, Raphael 800, Rhodium, Tilt 2 & Topaz


    This opening post should have most of the FAQs for XDAndroid (XDA Android on HTC)
    In addition, you can post questions, thoughts etc here... and other users can help you out!

    Please remember that XDAndroid is 'generic'; that means it runs on multiple HTC devices, but can behave a little differently on each one of them. So for instance, sound might work really well on Diamond, but not so well on Blackstone etc (just a theoretical example!)

    You should also remember that this project is in continuous development, so not everything is finished or perfect... there is a LOT working, but quite a bit not working too, and some stuff 'kinda' works if the wind is blowing in the right direction ;-)




    F.A.Q

    • Are the Android releases available in a ROM?
      No, Android is not yet available in a ROM format.
      Currently Android is installed by using a clean SD Card, and booted from there.
      It is booted by running a special application called 'Haret.exe' residing on your SD Card which will terminate the Windows kernel and boot into Linux/Android.
      It can't easily be run from ROM because a) it's too experimental to risk putting in ROM and then killing a device and b) WinMo does some hardware initialisation that isn't documented, but is needed before Android can run.

    • When will it be available in a ROM?
      No time soon. Folks are working on it, but you'll need a lot of patience before it (if ever) arrives

    • My SD Card doesn't seem to work, why?
      Most SD Cards are working, but if you the 'waiting for SDCard' message, you should try one of these fixes (and please let us know if it works)
      Fix 1: Format your card with this tool http://www.sdcard.org/consumers/formatter/
      Fix 2: Edit your startup.txt file and add these red entries to your cmdline:
      set cmdline "lcd.density=240 msmts_calib=0x395.0x3c9.0x79.0x77 clock-7x00.a11=500 msmvkeyb_toggle=off pmem.extra=1 gsensor_axis=-2,-1,3
      msmsdcc_1bit msmsdcc_fmax=14000000 msmsdcc_nopwrsave
      "

      Fix 3: Tell your wife / girlfriend that you are about to make some modifications to her phone... change the ringtone and steal her old Class 2 SD Card to use with Android. She will never discover what you have done, and if she does, you'll be able to use Android to send texts to your former girlfriends ;-)

    • Where can I download a release?
      There are a number of Android releases (all at varying stages of development). Use the search function to locate one, or try these:
      http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=732362 (Standard XDAndroid for multiple HTC Devices)
      Both come with very clear instructions on how to install

    • What features are in a release?
      Generally, it's very difficult to detail them, unless there is a significant new feature (in which case, that will be very well advertised!). Usually it's minor speed improvements, bug fixes etc... and sometimes, new bugs are introduced (so bear that in mind)

    • How do I turn off, or reboot Android?
      In earlier releases, you had to pull the battery or press the reset button, in newer releases, you can hold down the 'end call' button and see a menu.

    • How do I suggest features?
      Before you even think about it... ask yourself ONE question... "Do I really think I'm the first to have suggested my idea?" and then ask yourself "And what are the chances of it being read and implemented before all the other issues are fixed?".
      If you still feel it wise to ask for a feature.... go ahead. Don't say you weren't warned.

    • My question starts with the words "When will..." or "When is..." etc
      See above, the same applies. Stuff will appear when it appears. Do you really think you're the only person dying to have ROM support, or power off, or stability etc?

    • Why doesn't the camera work?
      It's not yet supported. When it is, it will be announced.

    • Why isn't GPS working?
      GPS should be working fine, it's a relatively new addition ( May 2010 ) but works well outdoors. Please allow time for the GPS to obtain a 'fix' (location).

    • My battery doesn't seem to last long, why?
      There are many reasons... first Android is not yet fully optimised for power management (so it's not YET as good as WinMo), secondly, the battery status is highly problematic for most users (don't trust the capacity Android tells you, it's simply up and down a lot, and highly inaccurate)

    • Does WiFi work?
      Yes, it's working for most people, suspected to cause slight heat, definitely drains the battery faster than WinMo. Some users have reported freezes when switching WiFi off (quite common problem)

    • Does Audio work?
      It should be working fine, but Audio can have issues on some devices from time to time. Even with the very latest XDAndroid kernels.
    • I keep hearing 'popping/clicking' sounds from the speaker?
      This is a known annoyance on some devices, believed to be related to power management switching the speaker on and off (not confirmed), it actually seems worse in silent mode (ironically). If you experience this, you're not alone... most users do. When a fix is ready, it will be announced here.

    • I can't wake up my device, why?
      Deep Sleep is an issue for most people. Sometimes the device WILL wake up from a deep sleep, but sometimes it will not. If you can't wake it up, reset.

    • Is GPRS supported?
      Yes, it works (but you MAY have to input your operator/carrier APN)

    • Is 3G working?
      Yes, works for most, although some users are having trouble with Vodafone Netherlands.

    • Is SIM PIN Code working?
      It's supposed to be working, yes, but if you have ANY troubles please DISABLE SIM PIN in WinMo (SIM PIN works on the SIM, but you need WinMo UI to disable it)

    • Is GSensor working?
      Yes

    • Is Bluetooth working?
      Seems to be in a high state of flux, so you'll just have to test it on your device, and find out

      .
    • Is 3D Supported?
      OpenGL ES 1.0 is supported on some devices (Blackstone, Diamond, Raphael). Topaz and Rhodium do not support 3D

    • Can I connect via USB?
      Yes you can, but will NOT operate in mass storage mode. You can charge via USB and you can debug, but forget accessing your files by it.

    • Is the Headphone Socket working?
      It's being worked on as we speak, but you MAY need to activate it with a special command (in very recent releases, you shouldn't have to):

      For USB headset, add the following line to startup.txt...
      snd.force_headset=1

      For 3.5mm headset, add the following line to startup.txt...
      snd.force_headset=2

      You MAY have to make a call for the settings to actually be activated (a real pain), but that's how it is so far!


    • 'Application (xxxxxx) is not responding: Force Close or Wait' keep appearing on my screen!
      Click wait. I do not know the precise reason for this, but from what I can gather, it COULD be related to the slow speed of the SD Card causing the app response times to JUST be a little too slow for Android's liking, thus causing the message. This seems to happen more after bootup or wakeup when the device is busy doing stuff in the background.

    • I am having trouble with ringtones, why?
      This is believed to be caused by the media scanner failing (due to discovering some filenames with none English characters). The best option of all is to use a CLEAN SD Card. But, if you insist on hosting other files on the same SD Card, you MUST make sure they have English character filenames.

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    @farukb: Ofc, I think we all have that assumed.

    Another thing: Anyone knows why my charging/HW kb leds don't work for debug as intended? Is that happening in all blackstones? Do I have to activate an option?

    Now when I start Haret with charging led off, it stays off, if launch it charging, it stays orange whatever I do.

    thanks.

    Edit: Oh, and btw, goggles says kernel doesn't have ipv6 support, is that normal?

    goggles need ipv6 support and i believe that xdandroid doesn't have it, go to rhodium section, there is a 1.23.2011. froyo x release that supports ipv6,so you can try it out (you probably know how to have multiple android builds on same card,if not,just ask...nevermind,here you go :http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/tp2-andro...-cam-sense-x-2011-01-12-a-50.html#post2035413)

    froyo x here:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=904918

    led light doesn't work at all for me,and once when i ran haret whle charging it stayed on even when i plugged out the cable.

    blackstone doesn't have HW kbd,and if you mean these four buttons on the lower part of the front,they don't have leds behind them,at all...
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    Hi;

    i am new about android.
    I see that adroit installation from sd card.

    My question is. if i install android rom. will delete windows mobile system from phone.

    Thanks;

    No, it's not a rom. That's why it loads from sdcard. Every reboot you'll start with your WM and then you'll have to boot android
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    Not really... hadn't seen that error for some time. I though it was now only because of a faulty/old sdcard, but no idea.