External SD card and G PAD... try to clarify

meanoc · Jul 22, 2014

muiriddin said:
That is similair to what I thought as well until the problem started happening for me. I was pure stock 4.4.2 unrooted before I joined this quest to investigate the bad removals. The bad removals started occurring after the 4.4.2 upgrade. A factory reset after the upgrade, caused the problem to disappear for a short while. Then it came back. Pure original 4.2.2 did not suffer from bad removals when I first got the GPad, however I can not say that it wasn't happening silently in the background and I was unaware of it. Either some application I am using (that has been upgraded), or the upgrade to 4.4.2 has started the problem, or my card is now going bad, or worst case, there is a bad set of hardware out there and I have one of them...

I will be ordering a new card and probably reverting to stock 4.4.2 to see if that causes things to go away for me if my current tests continue to show problems.

Honestly I believe your wasting your money buying a new card. I've tried 4 different working correctly in other devices cards and they all bad dismount on the G Pad. I have been continuously monitoring mine and it makes no sense how I can go for days with no problems and then have over 100 dismounts in 12 hours.

I'm starting to really question how accurate SD card monitor is. On a few occasions I would check it at say 10:00 AM and have no problems then check it at 11:00 AM and it would show 20-30 dismounts before 10:00 AM.

After trying all the different roms I'm going to load 422 again and confirm that its a 442 issue. Its just so frustrating to see so many people not having the problem and others that cannot find or fix the problem

LG has been zero help in my case.

muiriddin · Jul 22, 2014

meanoc said:
Honestly I believe your wasting your money buying a new card. I've tried 4 different working correctly in other devices cards and they all bad dismount on the G Pad. I have been continuously monitoring mine and it makes no sense how I can go for days with no problems and then have over 100 dismounts in 12 hours.

I'm starting to really question how accurate SD card monitor is. On a few occasions I would check it at say 10:00 AM and have no problems then check it at 11:00 AM and it would show 20-30 dismounts before 10:00 AM.

After trying all the different roms I'm going to load 422 again and confirm that its a 442 issue. Its just so frustrating to see so many people not having the problem and others that cannot find or fix the problem LG has been zero help in my case.

I have begun to question the SD Card monitoring app's accuracy as well. I did need another card anyway so I have ordered one. However having just done multiple backups and file moves and not had any problem, I'm definitely confused as to what could possibly trigger what we are seeing.

meanoc · Jul 22, 2014

So last night I did another round of experiments. I took an old 512 MB USB thumb drive and plugged it into my pc. I scanned the disk and it was clean. Added assorted bs files and proceeded to do bad dismounts. So out of 100 tries I got errors on 93 scans. Went back and formatted the disk and added bs files and proceeded to plug and unplug the drive repeatedly (about 20 times). Out of 100 sessions I got 100 bad scans.

My sd card at the time had over 1000! bad dismounts some of them within seconds of one another. Did a scan on the sd and ZERO errors. Copied all the data from the sd card, reformatted it and added assorted files. Popped the card in a reader and proceeded with the same testing as the USB thumb drive. Guess what almost the exact same results. On the single dismounts I got errors on 91 scans. On the multiple plug and unplug test I got 100 out of 100.

I know my testing method could stand improvement yet I think this proves that something isn't adding up. I'm thinking its the SD monitor program. I emailed the developer and will post the reply.

parsifal968 · Jul 22, 2014

meanoc said:
After trying all the different roms I'm going to load 422 again and confirm that its a 442 issue. Its just so frustrating to see so many people not having the problem and others that cannot find or fix the problem LG has been zero help in my case.

THIS is the question! you have installed a custom recovery on 442 (with the only metod: mixed base) and if you back to 422 with a simple restore backup then you have also problems.
The only solution is to go back to ORIGINAL stock 422 (if you want a custom recovery) with this metod:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
erasing any trace of 442 and (if you don't have a bad microsd) all problems are gone.
PERSONAL EXPERIENCE!

If you want 442 from LG then probably work IF you don't install a custom recovery on a fresh kitkat installation with lg tool (not have time to try).

meanoc · Jul 22, 2014

parsifal968 said:
THIS is the question! you have installed a custom recovery on 442 (with the only metod: mixed base) and if you back to 422 with a simple restore backup then you have also problems.
The only solution is to go back to ORIGINAL stock 422 (if you want a custom recovery) with this metod:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2432476
erasing any trace of 442 and (if you don't have a bad microsd) all problems are gone.
PERSONAL EXPERIENCE!

If you want 442 from LG then probably work IF you don't install a custom recovery on a fresh kitkat installation with lg tool (not have time to try).

I'm wiping the G Pad right now and going to install 422 completely stock. I hope that fixes this but I have doubts. Your theory still doesn't explain why some have the issue and others don't running the same setup. But like I said I'm going to try it and thanks for the reply.

meanoc · Jul 22, 2014

Well and now a drum roll.....422 loaded cleanly and just had my first bad dismount within 10 minutes of installing the monitor. So in my case it almost has to be a hardware issue or the monitoring program is faulty.

No big deal as I have a buyer on Craigslist and am going to preorder the new Nvidia tablet. I really liked this tablet aside from the sd issues but I already wasted enough time. The only thing that bothers me is I just bought 2 cases and a pack of screen protectors but I would rather loose the cash than be aggravated daily with dismounts.

Good luck everyone :good:

parsifal968 · Jul 23, 2014

422 loaded cleanly? After wiping? Mah! How about exact procedure you done? Install a "clean" 422 after "wipe" ... i suspect you have done via TWRP or similar ... THIS NOT WORK!!! mine is not a teory but what i have done to solve.

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Hugo-PT · Jul 23, 2014

parsifal968 said:
If you want 442 from LG then probably work IF you don't install a custom recovery on a fresh kitkat installation with lg tool (not have time to try).

Also did not solve the problem.
In some cases, the first symptoms appear again a few weeks later.

meanoc · Jul 23, 2014

parsifal968 said:
422 loaded cleanly? After wiping? Mah! How about exact procedure you done? Install a "clean" 422 after "wipe" ... i suspect you have done via TWRP or similar ... THIS NOT WORK!!! mine is not a teory but what i have done to solve.

Sent from my LG-P500 using XDA Free mobile app

I did a 100% clean install w/o root or recovery via the LG tool and THIS NOT WORK!!! So as I stated before in MY case this did absolutely nothing other than waste 90 minutes of time. You really should learn not to be so rude and assume something your not sure of :good:

parsifal968 · Jul 23, 2014

meanoc said:
I did a 100% clean install w/o root or recovery via the LG tool and THIS NOT WORK!!! So as I stated before in MY case this did absolutely nothing other than waste 90 minutes of time. You really should learn not to be so rude and assume something your not sure of :good:

i don't start a flame and don't launch a... drum roll!
i want to share a possible solution and not play my bongos.
if my engRish is bad and do some confusion... sorry.

my case:
1) fresh buyed gpad with sd working for many months
2) sd gived to others
3) gpad upped to kitkat and installed a twrp with the only method: mixed bases
4) new sd buyed... at first insertion start of a pletora of bad dismounts visible WITHOUT the (infamous?) app but simply via system warning
5) sd bad? NOT on others tablet and pc
6) many time wasted to search a possible solution tryed hundreds!!!
7) finally the solution described... and for about 2 weeks not a single bad dismount or random unmount. (the (infamous?) app work)

Sorry for my try to help others.

meanoc · Jul 23, 2014

parsifal968 said:
i don't start a flame and don't launch a... drum roll!
i want to share a possible solution and not play my bongos.
if my engRish is bad and do some confusion... sorry.

my case:
1) fresh buyed gpad with sd working for many months
2) sd gived to others
3) gpad upped to kitkat and installed a twrp with the only method: mixed bases
4) new sd buyed... at first insertion start of a pletora of bad dismounts visible WITHOUT the (infamous?) app but simply via system warning
5) sd bad? NOT on others tablet and pc
6) many time wasted to search a possible solution tryed hundreds!!!
7) finally the solution described... and for about 2 weeks not a single bad dismount or random unmount. (the (infamous?) app work)

Sorry for my try to help others.

I appreciate that you posted trying to help. Just in my case it wasn't the solution. Maybe it'll help someone else :good:

Kenif1983 · Jul 23, 2014

LG's official response is to factory reset...

loffman · Jul 23, 2014

For some reason this worked for me. Haven't had any problems with the SDcard since...

This i what i did...

Rooted with Towelroot
Installed NextApp SDfix
Installed SDCard Booster

meanoc · Jul 23, 2014

loffman said:
For some reason this worked for me. Haven't had any problems with the SDcard since...

This i what i did...

Rooted with Towelroot
Installed NextApp SDfix
Installed SDCard Booster

What rom are you running?

loffman · Jul 23, 2014

meanoc said:
What rom are you running?

i am running stock, 4.4.2. I haven't made any changes to the G Pad. Only rooted so i could download to the sdcard.

meanoc · Jul 23, 2014

loffman said:
i am running stock, 4.4.2. I haven't made any changes to the G Pad. Only rooted so i could download to the sdcard.

I d/led the apps and hopefully I'll be able to report success at last. Thanks for the reply

Edit Damn got a bad dismount 7 minutes in

loffman · Jul 24, 2014

meanoc said:
I d/led the apps and hopefully I'll be able to report success at last. Thanks for the reply

Edit Damn got a bad dismount 7 minutes in

Sorry to hear it didn't work.

meanoc · Jul 24, 2014

loffman said:
Sorry to hear it didn't work.

No problem as I didn't get my hopes up. It may help someone else :good:

muiriddin · Jul 24, 2014

parsifal968 said:
i don't start a flame and don't launch a... drum roll!
i want to share a possible solution and not play my bongos.
if my engRish is bad and do some confusion... sorry.

my case:
1) fresh buyed gpad with sd working for many months
2) sd gived to others
3) gpad upped to kitkat and installed a twrp with the only method: mixed bases
4) new sd buyed... at first insertion start of a pletora of bad dismounts visible WITHOUT the (infamous?) app but simply via system warning
5) sd bad? NOT on others tablet and pc
6) many time wasted to search a possible solution tryed hundreds!!!
7) finally the solution described... and for about 2 weeks not a single bad dismount or random unmount. (the (infamous?) app work)

Sorry for my try to help others.

I can confirm that I seemed to have less trouble with 4.2.2 than with 4.4.2. Both of these being completely stock, no recovery, nothing not from the factory installs (other than apps from the play store). However I still have an occasional problem. However in my case I can not yet completely discount that my problem may have been with a sd card beginning to go bad (hence the purchase of a new card). A factory reset of 4.4.2 seemed to cause things to be fine for a week or so, but then I started seeing bad removals again. Most often my bad removals seem to be associated with google play music caching on the sd card. Do you all have play music configured that way?

However, with the new card I now have, I have not had a single bad removal (yet)

It is now 3 days without a bad removal...

Kenif1983 · Aug 5, 2014

I think it's possibly a physical thing.

I got a number of unmounts when i was driving this weekend.

Tonight i moved from my living room to my study at 8 and back to my living room at 10 - I had dismounts at both 8 and 10.

I have a cheap case i bought on Amazon. I might try without for a bit

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