A question about root on the 4X HD

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Hi everyone!

Sorry for my English but I'm Italian

I'm an iPhone user and I don't know anything about Android, but I'm going to buy an Android smartphone and I have wavered between the 4X HD and the One X.
Generally I find the 4X HD better, but now I'd buy the One X because of its lots of ROMs.

On the 4X HD there isn't the root access ( for now ) but you know that a video showed the 4X running a beta version of CyanogenMod 10! Now, I know that "CM 10 on the 4X" isn't equal tob "root access" because it woulded be a developer version of the 4X, but why was the CM team supposed to work on the 4X HD if nobody can install their ROM on it?

What I mean is that, in my opinion, there's a way to have root access on the 4X HD and maybe somebody already knows it, but doesn't tell us how to have it....

But I'm just a 16 yo boy and an iPhone user, so I'd like to hear your opinions, too. What do you think about the root access on the 4X HD?

Thank you very much

Originally Posted by marcopolver

What I mean is that, in my opinion, there's a way to have root access on the 4X HD and maybe somebody already knows it, but doesn't tell us how to have it....

But I'm just a 16 yo boy and an iPhone user, so I'd like to hear your opinions, too. What do you think about the root access on the 4X HD?

that must be a no in stereo patience though, and it will show up.

whats the fun about having a root'd phone, and not getting any roms or any news kernels to use with it.
its like having lots of money, its no fun if you got no one to share it with

Enjoy the stock while you can

the cyanogen mod developer you saw was using a developer version of the 4X, it probably had an unlocked boot loader that allowed him to install a different rom with root access. These phones are only available to developers and are not the same as retail version. On the retail version they lock the boot loader and secure the access to the internal system folders so no one can tamper with it. Eventually someone might figure out how to Root the device and then we'll have all the access we need.

Bear in mind that Rooting any phone will void your warranty and you wont get support from LG if they know it's rooted, you'll have to be sure you want to do it. So far in some of the phones I've seen they could be Un Rooted to regain the warranty, a Rooted phone has it's advantages like the App called Cerberus which has a feature to not get deleted if the thief factory resets the phone so you could locate it again.

Any time I have a problem with my HTC Sensation I come to XDA for Solutions, and thats rooted and bootloader unlocked.
I'm hopeing to get my hands on the 4X once it's realeased in the UK

Originally Posted by mabz2k

the cyanogen mod developer you saw was using a developer version of the 4X, it probably had an unlocked boot loader that allowed him to install a different rom with root access. These phones are only available to developers and are not the same as retail version. On the retail version they lock the boot loader and secure the access to the internal system folders so no one can tamper with it. Eventually someone might figure out how to Root the device and then we'll have all the access we need.

in our case with the Tegra3 chipset, we have another problem, which is the secure boot, which is locked by SBK (SecureBootKey) that is also needed to flash a new boot or getting a unlocker from LG, which is previously seen by Asus being distributed.. on some other tegra3 models they solution was simply booting into fastboot and sending "fastboot oem unlock" but i have personally not been able to run fastboot.

but root is not the only requirement to get CM10 we need more , to be able to flash their changes or even boot it.

Originally Posted by Dexter_nlb

in our case with the Tegra3 chipset, we have another problem, which is the secure boot, which is locked by SBK (SecureBootKey) that is also needed to flash a new boot or getting a unlocker from LG, which is previously seen by Asus being distributed.. on some other tegra3 models they solution was simply booting into fastboot and sending "fastboot oem unlock" but i have personally not been able to run fastboot.

but root is not the only requirement to get CM10 we need more , to be able to flash their changes or even boot it.

Hi!

Please correct me if I am wrong. I am confused a bit about locked bootloader and SBK.

- Locked bootloader prevents device to run custom ROM and custom recovery.
- SBK is kind of encryption when sending command in APX mode.

This means we need both unlocked bootloader and SBK for rooting 4X right?

Thanks

Originally Posted by atipon

This means we need both unlocked bootloader and SBK for rooting 4X right?

Thanks

you are correct

and that means its kinda useless to buy/keep the phone, because we probably never get CM10?!?
I don’t think LG will unlock the bootloaders...

HTC initially never unlocked the Sensation bootloader but it still got unlocked by devs.

We just need to find an exploit somewhere and someone with the knowledge to use it.

Problem that I can see so far is that the phones lack of availability is restricting the user base.

Sent from my LG-P880 using xda app-developers app

Originally Posted by alexp999

HTC initially never unlocked the Sensation bootloader but it still got unlocked by devs.

well, HTC and their mobiles got a huge fanbase, so comparing Tegra3 to that kind of community with 1000+ downloads on a mod, is not really nice

with Tegra2, we got the bootloader hacked in the Acer500 section.
but Tegra3 comes with the SBK and encyption of partitions on top, and even APX mode is not compatible yet.

its a long way to go to achieve some root functionality and CM10.